Slorm Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 @Vel Sorry this is OT, but a long while back in this thread you mentioned you prefer playing lower level characters, I was wondering what mod you used to slow down levelling? Personally I prefer low levels because of weird scaling mechanic. All these bandits/bums/beggars with glass/daedric armors/weapons late game just weird. I use http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/9857/ I stick to hide/steel armor/weapon with elven/orc/dwarwen as top tier and leave daedric/draconic (crafted) for epic boss figths only. I use this mod (as odd as it sounds): http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/1175/? While it lets you extend leveling pretty much forever you can control how fast or slowly you level skills or how much those skills work to increase your level. Since I do a lot of crafting and enchanting I set mine up so those skills contribute pretty much nothing to raising the characters level. Thanks both. The uncapper looks a lot more than what I need, I think I'll halve most of the "Skill Use Mult" in CK instead as that looks straightforward and isn't baked into the save. The real problem is the poor game balancing at mid level and up, it needs more powerful levelled bandits (but not overpowered like OBIS)
Disturbed5000 Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 Hi, it's me again! It took a lot of stubborn stupidity and refusal to be beaten by a piece of software, but I finally know what the problem was. This mod is -NOT- compatible with Maria Eden. It took creating a new MO profile, installing only Captured Dreams and all dependencies then slowly one by one adding, starting a new game, testing, removing, then adding again every other mod I had but I finally found the culprit. It may seem like they run together on the surface, but any scripted scene where the master adds a bunch of devices to the player will cause crashes on save. I've no idea if there's some load order that would allow you to run both without problems, but if there is I couldn't get it to work. So..PSA I guess.
Veladarius Posted April 26, 2015 Author Posted April 26, 2015 Hi, it's me again! It took a lot of stubborn stupidity and refusal to be beaten by a piece of software, but I finally know what the problem was. This mod is -NOT- compatible with Maria Eden. It took creating a new MO profile, installing only Captured Dreams and all dependencies then slowly one by one adding, starting a new game, testing, removing, then adding again every other mod I had but I finally found the culprit. It may seem like they run together on the surface, but any scripted scene where the master adds a bunch of devices to the player will cause crashes on save. I've no idea if there's some load order that would allow you to run both without problems, but if there is I couldn't get it to work. So..PSA I guess. I have not used Maria Eden myself so I am not sure what the issue may be. If it happens when a device is equipped it may be possible that it makes some changes to DD items. I am glad you found the issue though, hopefully it helps others who may be having issues figure things out.
Verstort Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Hi, it's me again! It took a lot of stubborn stupidity and refusal to be beaten by a piece of software, but I finally know what the problem was. This mod is -NOT- compatible with Maria Eden. It took creating a new MO profile, installing only Captured Dreams and all dependencies then slowly one by one adding, starting a new game, testing, removing, then adding again every other mod I had but I finally found the culprit. It may seem like they run together on the surface, but any scripted scene where the master adds a bunch of devices to the player will cause crashes on save. I've no idea if there's some load order that would allow you to run both without problems, but if there is I couldn't get it to work. So..PSA I guess. Which master, are you talking about CD Master or Maria's Eden "Master" adding a bunch of devices? Are you talking about player enslaved by maria (with items) getting CD items as part of CD quest, or CD items on player getting enslaved by Maria? If it's a case of the player already being enslaved by maria and the CD quests/items are what causes the issue, then all vel has to do is catch the faction 0x00052CE8 to know if the player is already a slave and to prevent those quests/scenes from triggering since the player is owned by maria, but if it's caused by Maria eden triggering while the player is wearing CD items I think Maria Eden devs have to handle that possibility from their side. Vel can detect when the attempt to remove a scripted item happens, but I don't think he can detect the item it's being replaced with.
galgat Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 as best I could tell this is the biggest culprit to Maria Eden "SexLab Aroused" But it does not play well with hardly any DD mod's. I run it in a profile with only DDA, and ZAZ, and sexlab, and have to turn off the Shlongs of skyrim conection to SLA, and the Extra's he mentions you should have or are the optional one's. He sort of explains this in the Read Me or front page doc's. Its a fun mod, but in some places a little un-forgiving for my taste, but I do like many of the features in it. And I have fun playing it too.
Veladarius Posted April 27, 2015 Author Posted April 27, 2015 Hi, it's me again! It took a lot of stubborn stupidity and refusal to be beaten by a piece of software, but I finally know what the problem was. This mod is -NOT- compatible with Maria Eden. It took creating a new MO profile, installing only Captured Dreams and all dependencies then slowly one by one adding, starting a new game, testing, removing, then adding again every other mod I had but I finally found the culprit. It may seem like they run together on the surface, but any scripted scene where the master adds a bunch of devices to the player will cause crashes on save. I've no idea if there's some load order that would allow you to run both without problems, but if there is I couldn't get it to work. So..PSA I guess. Which master, are you talking about CD Master or Maria's Eden "Master" adding a bunch of devices? Are you talking about player enslaved by maria (with items) getting CD items as part of CD quest, or CD items on player getting enslaved by Maria? If it's a case of the player already being enslaved by maria and the CD quests/items are what causes the issue, then all vel has to do is catch the faction 0x00052CE8 to know if the player is already a slave and to prevent those quests/scenes from triggering since the player is owned by maria, but if it's caused by Maria eden triggering while the player is wearing CD items I think Maria Eden devs have to handle that possibility from their side. Vel can detect when the attempt to remove a scripted item happens, but I don't think he can detect the item it's being replaced with. If the issue is the items from Maria Eden being removed I can't do much about that for a while but ANY mod that adds DD items will remove them since it only uses Assets not Integration. The items in Assets have none of the keywords from Integration or any of the protections that keep me (or anyone else) from removing them. My mod (as SHOULD others) looks for the keyword zad_blockgeneric on items and if present will not remove them, this is why my mod does not remove items from other mods like Cursed Loot. As for looking for Factions ZAZ Animation has added factions to identify slaves and such and those are what I will primarily be looking for in v4 to identify other slaves.
Inte Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 @Veladarius I added mod events to PO. See if that is what you were looking for, if not I can change it. PO Patch No. 5b
aqqh Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 I have not used Maria Eden myself so I am not sure what the issue may be. If it happens when a device is equipped it may be possible that it makes some changes to DD items. Maria Eden does not use DDi or DDx. It uses only DDa and attaches his own scripting to those items. From what i see in tes5edit he added plenty of keywords to DDa armbinder and gags. Guess he shouldn't do that...
JimmyCow Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Could you explain how I can purchase keys? I can't talk to Kara... If she has a gag, select her in the console and use resetinventory so she reselects her outfit, do that until she doesn't have a gag. Thanks! But just wondering, isn't this supposed to be a natural thing? Why do I need to use the console for this, or was this intended?
Verstort Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Hi, it's me again! It took a lot of stubborn stupidity and refusal to be beaten by a piece of software, but I finally know what the problem was. This mod is -NOT- compatible with Maria Eden. It took creating a new MO profile, installing only Captured Dreams and all dependencies then slowly one by one adding, starting a new game, testing, removing, then adding again every other mod I had but I finally found the culprit. It may seem like they run together on the surface, but any scripted scene where the master adds a bunch of devices to the player will cause crashes on save. I've no idea if there's some load order that would allow you to run both without problems, but if there is I couldn't get it to work. So..PSA I guess. Which master, are you talking about CD Master or Maria's Eden "Master" adding a bunch of devices? Are you talking about player enslaved by maria (with items) getting CD items as part of CD quest, or CD items on player getting enslaved by Maria? If it's a case of the player already being enslaved by maria and the CD quests/items are what causes the issue, then all vel has to do is catch the faction 0x00052CE8 to know if the player is already a slave and to prevent those quests/scenes from triggering since the player is owned by maria, but if it's caused by Maria eden triggering while the player is wearing CD items I think Maria Eden devs have to handle that possibility from their side. Vel can detect when the attempt to remove a scripted item happens, but I don't think he can detect the item it's being replaced with. I just tried this, While a slave in Maria framework I cannot talk to master, she says "I do not talk to slaves!" Which is pretty standard dialogue for Maria's eden, it does however prevent turning in quests (at least the quests I had) How did you get master to put items on you? Did you walk back into a punishment scene from missing tavish? Could you explain how I can purchase keys? I can't talk to Kara... If she has a gag, select her in the console and use resetinventory so she reselects her outfit, do that until she doesn't have a gag. Thanks! But just wondering, isn't this supposed to be a natural thing? Why do I need to use the console for this, or was this intended? Because Vel knows about the bug but he just hasn't fixed it yet? He's probably too close to the next release to stop and add a small fix onto the old version (wishful thinking)
aqqh Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Because Vel knows about the bug but he just hasn't fixed it yet? He's probably too close to the next release to stop and add a small fix onto the old version (wishful thinking) some new dialogue could be added if you approach some gagged CD slave. Easy and effective. Could be even fun.
Guest Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Personally I prefer low levels because of weird scaling mechanic. All these bandits/bums/beggars with glass/daedric armors/weapons late game just weird. I use http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/9857/ I stick to hide/steel armor/weapon with elven/orc/dwarwen as top tier and leave daedric/draconic (crafted) for epic boss figths only. Playstyle that was most enjoyable for me: From start I decided that I wanna play rogue type, so almost no magic, no heavy armor/weapons. Focus skills - sneak, one handed, marksman and alchemy. With enough one handed and sneak skill dagger can onehit opponents from behind (cool animation is nice bonus). Alchemy is for tough situations and enjoyable in way "long preparations - strong effect", various potions are life savers in various ways: damage/debuff poisons versus big guys (dragons, giants), invisibility potion for crowds which you cant sneak around, fire/frost/lightning resist for dragons fights. One thing - do not overuse alchemy to brew lot of heal potions, that will break atmosphere. In dungeons I sneak, trying to split enemies and lure single enemies: shoot arrow somewhere nearby enemy -> he will go to check out noise where arrow struck floor/wall -> go for backstab. Most times I prefer to not kill-them-all, unless it is objective, so I go "thief" like style - stick to shadows, loot treasures, kill only when necessary. Few rules I try to adhere to for better immerse: - no potion drinking during combat (yeah, it is tempting to hotkey heal mmo style) - no shout on cooldown (for me it is ace in sleeve to get out of hairy situation, not something I do every fight) - no AI abuse - go slowly, inspect surroundings, enjoy scenery For me game was more interesting that way: splinter cell style pick-them-one-by-one with bandits, horror stealth versus monsters (nope, I am not poking that giant-mammoth-size-spider), witcher style boss/dragon fights (high on drugs with poisoned weapons). I guess most players will find it way too slow in comparison to run-n-kill-every-thing approach, but it felt right for me. There are three ending technically, 1 Bad End (that I hope to connect to other slavery mods) You could try something like Simple Slavery by jfraser - she would just sell player on an auction. Dont think that any other mod has universal slave trader system tho i guess Zaira (Maria Eden) is thinking about adding such. Simple Slavery is one, possible SD+ (let them take you away) or any others that can take the player. NPC Slavery. While there will be dom content available in this release the player won't be a true master without this. Random npcs - like capturing of defeated npcs for example? Or just "premade" npcs like Erani? Pretty much any npc. I was looking to have various sets of dialogue and the npc would use one of them depending on some of their characteristics. You guys should get Morrowloot 4E. Ebony and Glass becomes extremely uncommon, and ebony is only capable of being forged at the skyforge because lore. Also i think there's only a single Daedric set
Veladarius Posted April 27, 2015 Author Posted April 27, 2015 @Veladarius I added mod events to PO. See if that is what you were looking for, if not I can change it. PO Patch No. 5b If you can add a SendModEvent to the Arrest and Release it would be helpful, all it needs is to say that the player is being arrested or released and it can be added to the events you already have.
Veladarius Posted April 27, 2015 Author Posted April 27, 2015 I have not used Maria Eden myself so I am not sure what the issue may be. If it happens when a device is equipped it may be possible that it makes some changes to DD items. Maria Eden does not use DDi or DDx. It uses only DDa and attaches his own scripting to those items. From what i see in tes5edit he added plenty of keywords to DDa armbinder and gags. Guess he shouldn't do that... The Armor parts from Assets (basic items) are not used / modified by Integration, it has its own and just uses the ArmorAddon's from Assets. Of course making their own system and not Integration makes it rather incompatible with mods that use it. Hi, it's me again! It took a lot of stubborn stupidity and refusal to be beaten by a piece of software, but I finally know what the problem was. This mod is -NOT- compatible with Maria Eden. It took creating a new MO profile, installing only Captured Dreams and all dependencies then slowly one by one adding, starting a new game, testing, removing, then adding again every other mod I had but I finally found the culprit. It may seem like they run together on the surface, but any scripted scene where the master adds a bunch of devices to the player will cause crashes on save. I've no idea if there's some load order that would allow you to run both without problems, but if there is I couldn't get it to work. So..PSA I guess. Which master, are you talking about CD Master or Maria's Eden "Master" adding a bunch of devices? Are you talking about player enslaved by maria (with items) getting CD items as part of CD quest, or CD items on player getting enslaved by Maria? If it's a case of the player already being enslaved by maria and the CD quests/items are what causes the issue, then all vel has to do is catch the faction 0x00052CE8 to know if the player is already a slave and to prevent those quests/scenes from triggering since the player is owned by maria, but if it's caused by Maria eden triggering while the player is wearing CD items I think Maria Eden devs have to handle that possibility from their side. Vel can detect when the attempt to remove a scripted item happens, but I don't think he can detect the item it's being replaced with. I just tried this, While a slave in Maria framework I cannot talk to master, she says "I do not talk to slaves!" Which is pretty standard dialogue for Maria's eden, it does however prevent turning in quests (at least the quests I had) All the DD keywords are part of Assets, all they have to do is add checks for keywords to look for 1) zad_block generic to see if it is a quest item from other mods or 2) the item has a custom keyword of their own. I think my issue with a number of slavery mods currently is that none (that I know of) bother to look for their own items and assume any item should run their dialogue instead. If Maria Eden is blocking dialogue from mine I wouldn't recommend using the two together. I raised the priority of my dialogue enough to get past the gagged dialogue to use my own, I guess I will have to raise it further... How did you get master to put items on you? Did you walk back into a punishment scene from missing tavish? Confiscation will add items as will any punishment or losing a fight to the bandits while on delivery. Could you explain how I can purchase keys? I can't talk to Kara... If she has a gag, select her in the console and use resetinventory so she reselects her outfit, do that until she doesn't have a gag. Thanks! But just wondering, isn't this supposed to be a natural thing? Why do I need to use the console for this, or was this intended? Because Vel knows about the bug but he just hasn't fixed it yet? He's probably too close to the next release to stop and add a small fix onto the old version (wishful thinking) The entire quest / dialogue setup currently in place to remove items will be changing quite a bit. Since getting items added to you is a much more common occurrence it will become more of a standard feature instead of sneaking around the Master to do it.
AprilR Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Way back then when Master was much younger and wilder.This is story of one of her many slaves, but very special one. Chapter 1 (small part of it)"Aww, don't feel too bad, sweetheart. Most mendon't realize what I have hidden in my panties until it istoo late for them.""MMPPHH!" I screamed into my gag as I struggledagainst the cuffs binding my legs and arms. She ignored meand continued."Still, I overpowered you quite easily. You really are apathetic wimp, and now you are going to pay theconsequences for that."So let me tell you how this is going to work. By day, you willbe my maid while I put you through experimental potion testingand train you to become my submissive, feminine shemale lover.At all times, you will wear a penis gag to keep you quiet, a chastity beltto keep you from touching yourself, a corset to restrict yourbreathing and keep you weak and docile, and a rather largesoulgem plug in your asshole to keep you in a constant state ofarousal and frustration. The only clothing you will be permittedto wear are a pair of high heels and your maid uniform. Butdon't worry. It doesn't really cover anything, so I willstill be able to poke you and grope you anytime I wish.Hahaha!"Each night, you will be given a choice. You may beg me forthe pleasure of worshiping my body and sucking my cock untilI cum into your mouth and you are allowed to swallow. Or, Iwill hold you down and ass-rape you until you are desperatelycrying for mercy through your gag, and I shoot my load deepinside you."When I feel that you have learned to pleasure me sufficiently,and I promise you that you WILL want to learn how topleasure me, I may grant you some privileges. I might evenstroke your little dick and allow you to cum once in a while orlet you wear some clothes to cover your imprisoned genitalsand your new breasts. You will have to choose between thetwo, of course."I wonder which you will prefer after months of subservientchastity. Shame or modesty?"What!? I thought as she sat there smiling at me. Was thisbitch serious? I couldn't believe what she was telling me.That she was going to keep me here and turn me into somefreak sex slave. "MMPPHHHH!" I screamed again, but shemerely got up and walked out of the room. [check link for full text] Rest of story (16 chapters + epilogue) : http://jpst.it/yuE6 (I can repost it to somewhere else if you give link for text sharing site)
pinky6225 Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Playing a male character on my current play through and i've done the captured dreams quest before as female, when i triggered it as male it still wanted to lock me up for the 2nd quest of the expansion which doesn't really fit with dominant male (also not using the DD male addon), is their a way to setstage past this quest to the next one since other than the 2nd quest i don't think any of the others conflict with current playthrough role.
Inte Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 @Veladarius I added mod events to PO. See if that is what you were looking for, if not I can change it. PO Patch No. 5b If you can add a SendModEvent to the Arrest and Release it would be helpful, all it needs is to say that the player is being arrested or released and it can be added to the events you already have. It shall be done in Patch No. 5c
Veladarius Posted April 27, 2015 Author Posted April 27, 2015 Playing a male character on my current play through and i've done the captured dreams quest before as female, when i triggered it as male it still wanted to lock me up for the 2nd quest of the expansion which doesn't really fit with dominant male (also not using the DD male addon), is their a way to setstage past this quest to the next one since other than the 2nd quest i don't think any of the others conflict with current playthrough role. Go to a save after you have received the letter but before you accept the quest and do this: setstage cdxexpquest02 900 setstage cdxexpmain 300 this will complete the quest to the embassy and advance the expansion to the next stage so it can continue. You can do this after you have accepted the quest and before you get to the Embassy, just use the reset for the delivery quest or one of the others to remove the devices.
pinky6225 Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Playing a male character on my current play through and i've done the captured dreams quest before as female, when i triggered it as male it still wanted to lock me up for the 2nd quest of the expansion which doesn't really fit with dominant male (also not using the DD male addon), is their a way to setstage past this quest to the next one since other than the 2nd quest i don't think any of the others conflict with current playthrough role. Go to a save after you have received the letter but before you accept the quest and do this: setstage cdxexpquest02 900 setstage cdxexpmain 300 this will complete the quest to the embassy and advance the expansion to the next stage so it can continue. You can do this after you have accepted the quest and before you get to the Embassy, just use the reset for the delivery quest or one of the others to remove the devices. Thanks
dsfargeg222 Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 If possible in the future, can you add a grace period to confiscation after a demonstration scene? It just feels so silly having Master unlock all your stuff only to put it all back on seconds later.
_Waltz Posted April 27, 2015 Posted April 27, 2015 Not sure how common this problem is but after being late on the deliveries quest the master's items that are put on the PC are not all removed after I see the master to use her removal service. Some of them stay on...
Veladarius Posted April 27, 2015 Author Posted April 27, 2015 Not sure how common this problem is but after being late on the deliveries quest the master's items that are put on the PC are not all removed after I see the master to use her removal service. Some of them stay on... What sort of items are not being removed and were they items left over from a quest or not?
lunats Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 Is there no support for male PC? I just got delivery quest from the master and she put a chastity belt on me... And this belt keeps vibrating and stimulate my pussy although I don't have one
Veladarius Posted April 28, 2015 Author Posted April 28, 2015 Is there no support for male PC? I just got delivery quest from the master and she put a chastity belt on me... And this belt keeps vibrating and stimulate my pussy although I don't have one Unfortunately that is handled by Integration and the messages are part of its scripts. There have been discussions of adding male support to it if there was enough demand.
iggypop1 Posted April 28, 2015 Posted April 28, 2015 Hi Just want to say :Glad that you are still working on this mod take your time And thanks again for all your mods im using all of them
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