Verstort Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Vel, when you created the Immerslave start, where the player starts the game as the master's slave, did you leave a way for other mods to detect if the player has already gone through that scene? I thought I might take a swing at adding the scene as a possible outcome in Deviously enslaved, but I'm concerned about reaching the scene multiple times on the same character, since it can be reached through Immerslave and Simple Slavery as well. Is there some leftover state in a quest or a global variable I can check to see if the player has already gone through the scene? My only real concern is that the dialogue is currently written under the assumption that the player has never met master before, much less been enslaved once before. If you already wrote a second dialogue to cover this possibility, like you did for free trial, then never mind. I just figured, since you originally wrote it for a one-time occurrence that you might not have planned for multiple occurrences.
Wandering_Mania Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 There is a quest that sends you in there to "steal the statue of Debella" aquired from the begger in Markarth. If you try to go in there with out the quest they become hostal 100% of the time. Try getting that quest as early as you can and finnish it. I think it is called "The Syble of Debella" or something arround those lines. You can walk in at any time and start that quest without talking to the beggar, I have done it a number of times before. That is odd then every time I have tried that I get openly attacked a masive bounty and a "KOS" status by any guard in The Reach. The only thing I could possably think could cause this would be the "Prison Overhaul" mod but other than that nothing I have touches the "bounty systems" or anything in there.
Veladarius Posted April 19, 2015 Author Posted April 19, 2015 Vel, when you created the Immerslave start, where the player starts the game as the master's slave, did you leave a way for other mods to detect if the player has already gone through that scene? I thought I might take a swing at adding the scene as a possible outcome in Deviously enslaved, but I'm concerned about reaching the scene multiple times on the same character, since it can be reached through Immerslave and Simple Slavery as well. Is there some leftover state in a quest or a global variable I can check to see if the player has already gone through the scene? My only real concern is that the dialogue is currently written under the assumption that the player has never met master before, much less been enslaved once before. If you already wrote a second dialogue to cover this possibility, like you did for free trial, then never mind. I just figured, since you originally wrote it for a one-time occurrence that you might not have planned for multiple occurrences. The slavery option was never set up for multiple use and was mostly an afterthought. The Global Variable CDxMP03DialogueSet is what controls what dialogue is used, 14 is the value for the slave start, but if the punishment is used again it would be overwritten.
parruyo Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 How take off devices to elisif? You can try 'recycleactor' or 'resetinventory' in the console. Not work, recycleator remove clothes but not devices and other nothing.
kronnos44 Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 So, after making another new character, my scenes are starting to work as they should. 2015-04-17_00003.jpg *brain orgasm , the pîctures ;o so awesome , last day off vacation noo *
Slorm Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 From what i have seen of OBIS when I made the patch between it and For the Masses, OBIS uses a lot of custom leveled lists for its bandits. The bandits I have are custom and don't use any of the templates so it should not conflict but they won't change as the ones from OBIS do. Thanks Vel, I tested it out on a retrieval mission from Fort Dunstad and it works fine. After all that though, I've removed OBIS as I found it was a bit overpowered for my taste, I wanted the bandits to be a bit more of a challenge not a major tactical engagement. I'll see if I can figure out a way to increase the bandits levels as a percentage of the pc level or something like that, but for now I've gone back to my homebrew mod which keeps the pc damage dealt at 1 for all difficulty levels but increases the damage the pc receives.
Veladarius Posted April 19, 2015 Author Posted April 19, 2015 So, after making another new character, my scenes are starting to work as they should. 2015-04-17_00003.jpg *brain orgasm , the pîctures ;o so awesome , last day off vacation noo * The thing that was bocking the scene was a pair of chains behind the player, they were blocking the ghost for whatever reason (player wasn't in the scene either). From what i have seen of OBIS when I made the patch between it and For the Masses, OBIS uses a lot of custom leveled lists for its bandits. The bandits I have are custom and don't use any of the templates so it should not conflict but they won't change as the ones from OBIS do. Thanks Vel, I tested it out on a retrieval mission from Fort Dunstad and it works fine. After all that though, I've removed OBIS as I found it was a bit overpowered for my taste, I wanted the bandits to be a bit more of a challenge not a major tactical engagement. I'll see if I can figure out a way to increase the bandits levels as a percentage of the pc level or something like that, but for now I've gone back to my homebrew mod which keeps the pc damage dealt at 1 for all difficulty levels but increases the damage the pc receives. I don't know why the bandits were set up the way they are. Instead of making them level with the player there are 5-6 different sets of various levels with a max level of 29. Just really stupid to not make use of what is there already and make more work for themselves.
badbat111 Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 have you tryed tweaking the alternate start mod to have a option in the mara statue saying i have been punished for disrepecting my master when you use the bed to activate it you come to in the cage outside the shop and master walks over saying have you learnt your lesson ?
Guest Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Apologies (tons) in advance, Hope you're in a good mood: Captured dreams uses HDT, right? I think that's why I have it. Except my load MO says I also use HDTPE. Today I updated some framework-type mods, and I kept wondering what "BBP" stood for, and if it was OK to choose xpmse/bbp/ECE. The skeleton mod warned me dire consequences would ensue. Geez. I don't look forward to another two weeks of a busted game, But I don't wanna be stupid and miss out on stuff, so I Uninstalled HDT-PE. I hope that's OK. I don't know what I'm talking about (did you notice?) and all the mods have different requirements and backstories. I'm sticking with three biggie mods, the rest is mostly framework. So: Skeleton (The bottom selection) (xpmse-bbp-ece, I think) HDT, but no HDT-PE.
Veladarius Posted April 19, 2015 Author Posted April 19, 2015 Apologies (tons) in advance, Hope you're in a good mood: Captured dreams uses HDT, right? I think that's why I have it. Except my load MO says I also use HDTPE. Today I updated some framework-type mods, and I kept wondering what "BBP" stood for, and if it was OK to choose xpmse/bbp/ECE. The skeleton mod warned me dire consequences would ensue. Geez. I don't look forward to another two weeks of a busted game, But I don't wanna be stupid and miss out on stuff, so I Uninstalled HDT-PE. I hope that's OK. I don't know what I'm talking about (did you notice?) and all the mods have different requirements and backstories. I'm sticking with three biggie mods, the rest is mostly framework. So: Skeleton (The bottom selection) (xpmse-bbp-ece, I think) HDT, but no HDT-PE. The boots from the Expansion uses HDT High Heels, HDTPE is the Physics Extension (I think) and they are 2 different things from the same person. The HDTPE will animate bodies and such instead of relying on the animations to move breasts and such. For BBP, TBBP and HDT: BBP is the lesser version of TBBP as it has less moving parts. TBBP and HDT are similar and, for the most part, compatible. If you use a TBBP body you will want a TBBP skeleton, HDT body should use the HDT skeleton. Using the wrong one will still work but there will be some visual differences so mixing the two when using armors/clothing works. I noticed that using the HDT skeleton with TBBP bodies/armors that the breasts are flattened a bit. The ECE part of the skeleton was if you were using ECE to make your characters (I use it) as it adds some sliders and such for ECE.
JimmyCow Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Is there a "fixed" version of this mod available that doens't have the dialogue error? I'm just personally starting to get crazy with the glitch. You probably have not installed "Foz ra Doh" That's not the spelling >< Anyways sounds like you didn't install that one. Its a mod for non-voiced dialogue and has been essential to pretty much all mods that don't include a voice file for speech. For some reason the base game doesn't like text without sound. No, that's not the issue, I meant the "Let me be your slave" thing.
Veladarius Posted April 19, 2015 Author Posted April 19, 2015 Is there a "fixed" version of this mod available that doens't have the dialogue error? I'm just personally starting to get crazy with the glitch. You probably have not installed "Foz ra Doh" That's not the spelling >< Anyways sounds like you didn't install that one. Its a mod for non-voiced dialogue and has been essential to pretty much all mods that don't include a voice file for speech. For some reason the base game doesn't like text without sound. No, that's not the issue, I meant the "Let me be your slave" thing. You need to be more specific, when do you run into that dialogue and what does it do? There are 5000+ lines of dialogue and I can't remember all of it.
Purplewing Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Is there a "fixed" version of this mod available that doens't have the dialogue error? I'm just personally starting to get crazy with the glitch. You probably have not installed "Foz ra Doh" That's not the spelling >< Anyways sounds like you didn't install that one. Its a mod for non-voiced dialogue and has been essential to pretty much all mods that don't include a voice file for speech. For some reason the base game doesn't like text without sound. No, that's not the issue, I meant the "Let me be your slave" thing. Wasn't that problem from Deviously Cursed loot?
Veladarius Posted April 19, 2015 Author Posted April 19, 2015 Is there a "fixed" version of this mod available that doens't have the dialogue error? I'm just personally starting to get crazy with the glitch. You probably have not installed "Foz ra Doh" That's not the spelling >< Anyways sounds like you didn't install that one. Its a mod for non-voiced dialogue and has been essential to pretty much all mods that don't include a voice file for speech. For some reason the base game doesn't like text without sound. No, that's not the issue, I meant the "Let me be your slave" thing. Wasn't that problem from Deviously Cursed loot? It could be from that or from SD+ since the current release doesn't enslave the player.
Verstort Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 Is there a "fixed" version of this mod available that doens't have the dialogue error? I'm just personally starting to get crazy with the glitch. No, that's not the issue, I meant the "Let me be your slave" thing. Wasn't that problem from Deviously Cursed loot? It could be from that or from SD+ since the current release doesn't enslave the player. I thought SD+ used "I need a strong hand to guide me" or something like that. Maria's eden has a line that marks a target as the default slaver to come buy you if you get caught and sold to market, but I think that line is something innocuous like "I feel comfortable around you" or something. There was a line like "I want to try out slavery" for talking to maria's eden slavers, but that's limited and none of them show up anywhere near CD I too am curious what mod he has that gives that dialogue to CD actors (probably just to all actors universally), I don't remember anything quite as direct as "Let me be your slave"
Veladarius Posted April 19, 2015 Author Posted April 19, 2015 Is there a "fixed" version of this mod available that doens't have the dialogue error? I'm just personally starting to get crazy with the glitch. No, that's not the issue, I meant the "Let me be your slave" thing. Wasn't that problem from Deviously Cursed loot? It could be from that or from SD+ since the current release doesn't enslave the player. I thought SD+ used "I need a strong hand to guide me" or something like that. Maria's eden has a line that marks a target as the default slaver to come buy you if you get caught and sold to market, but I think that line is something innocuous like "I feel comfortable around you" or something. There was a line like "I want to try out slavery" for talking to maria's eden slavers, but that's limited and none of them show up anywhere near CD I too am curious what mod he has that gives that dialogue to CD actors (probably just to all actors universally), I don't remember anything quite as direct as "Let me be your slave" I pulled SD+ from my game a while back and I never did install the dialogue mod it used and I don't use any other slavery mods currently.
AprilR Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) First - great mod, well done.I got one idea/suggestion: 3rd quest First encounter: When you got to putting on plugs and belt. Add dialogue option to change type of plugs for belt: 1) Keep original ones - nice and satisfying, these will keep Jarl happy.2) Slip Teaser and Spoiler instead - these will endlessly tease, but never give release, cruel fate for Jarl to be locked this way forever.3) Slip Tormentor and Punisher instead - cruel tease followed by unpredictable intense pain or ecstasy without, no rest for Jarl from now on. [quest additional goal - check up on Jarl after some time] Second encounter: Additional dialogue after some time (few days) for Jarl, depending on plug choice:1) Original plugsDova - So, what do you think of your "equipment"?Jarl - Its great, I ve never been better. I am thankful for my husband thoughtfulness.Dova - Iam pleased to hear that.Jarl - It was awkward at start, but now I cant imagine day without it.Dova - Yes, these can grow on you.Jarl - Device catch my every desire and bounds feel like his embrace. Who could have thought that shackles can be such comforting.Dova - It was designed specifically for you Jarl.Jarl - Thank you for bringing it to me and guiding through.Dova - My pleasure Jarl.[quest outcome - Jarl is pleased and happy.]2) Teaser and SpoilerDova - You look a bit nervous, how is your "equipment"?Jarl - Its awful. These plugs driving me mad, I am on edge since locks been placed.Dova - Seems your husband wanted you to think of him.Jarl - How could he do such thing to me. What can I do to get release?Dova - Nothing really, though sucking dicks help a bit, try guards or servants.Jarl - NO! Its outrageous... How could I...Dova - I think your husband thought that you need some excitement in your life.Jarl - But... This is so degrading...Dova - Think of how live and warm member ll feel in your mouth.Jarl - Locked away and kept horny forever, sucking dicks like dirty whore, is this fate my husband wanted for me?Dova - You ll get used to it, actually you have no other choice.Jarl - I guess you right. Well, at least guards and servants will love their new Jarl.Dova - Enjoy your new exciting life Jarl. [quest continued - check up on Jarl after some time]3) Tormentor and PunisherDova - You look bit pale, are you alright?Jarl - No, I am not alright, that cursed device you brought to me is real torture.Dova - Well, it was due your husband's will.Jarl - What have I done to deserve this fate? I was good wife to him and this betrayal...Dova - Does it feel so bad?Jarl - It mostly keep me frustrated and agitated, but from time to time it jolt painfully or drive me crazy with pleasure. Anticipation is worst, I never know what and when it would be.Dova - Maybe your husband thought that life became to dull and boring for you?Jarl - But not like this, I hardly manage getting through day and night full of feverish dreams. How can I disable it?Dova - Iam afraid that you cant. But I think I know a way to make it easier for you, but you ll not like it...Jarl - What is it?! I am ready for everything to getDova - Promise me that you ll not get offended by my proposition.Jarl - I promise. Hell, I give my word as Jarl that I will try it.Dova - Fight fire with fire. You need to get whipped, hard, mercilessly, till you pass out.Jarl - What!? You got to be kidding!Dova - Intense pain will dull other feelings and you ll get relief for a time. Have you noticed how at ease you are after jolt in comparison as before?Jarl - Yes, but... Oh, anyway, I gave my word and I ll keep it.Dova - You should find expert for that, amateur can maim or even kill you.Jarl - I know one man, torturer by craft and heart, cruel, rude, he treat women as dirt and my husband hated and despised him for that.Dova - Well, if he can do what is required... and its your husband who set up you being locked.Jarl - You right, I ll meet that person and use his... services.Dova - In time you will enjoy it, believe me. [quest continued - check up on Jarl after some time] Third encounter: Second additional dialogue after some time after first one, depending on plug choice: 2) Teaser and SpoilerDova - You look kinda different, is everything alright?Jarl - Oh, it should be you Jarl talked about, courier from that place.Dova - Excuse me?Jarl - I am not Jarl, Iam her double, usually I work with bodyguards, but now I play Jarl role, while she is preoccupied.Dova - Wow, I cant tell a difference.Jarl - Thats the point. Jarl taught me everything, what to say and to whom, how to act and still give orders through me. I even wear replicas of her bounds, but these not locked.Dova - Oh, what happened to her? Is she alright?Jarl - She.. erm.. well, but not in palace currently.Dova - I know about her situation, what happened?Jarl - Alright. Thing is that your suggestion to her worked erm.. too well.Dova - What do you mean?Jarl - Jarl developed a taste for that specific way to please man.Dova - And?Jarl - It became problem with image of proper ruler, so she decided to distance herself from palace.Dova - She still Jarl, how she managed that?Jarl - Hired mage helped her to look as different person, mix of alteration, illusion and enchanting magic. Honestly I was surprised with her preferences.Dova - Why? Was it something exotic or that shockingly beautiful?Jarl - Actually no, Jarl looks as ordinary farm girl mostly, but there are features.Dova - What features? Also I understand illusions and enchanting, but why alteration?Jarl - Jarl wanted her face to be changed for real, so its not illusion and permanent. She requested fat lips, piggish nose, big dull eyes, and burned in trashiest makeup I have ever seen.Dova - Wow, thats really radical, what are illusions for then?Jarl - To hide her devices, cuffs collar, bra and belt. Actually Jarl requested for illusion to show her intimate parts as infected of sex disease, nasty stuff like rotting flesh and pus leaking from both holes, to scare off customers from these options.Dova - Customers?Jarl - She work in port brothel as cheapest cocksucker now. She is famous for taking more clients than ten working girls together first day.Dova - What a story, are you not afraid to tell me this? What if I decide to blackmail her or you?Jarl - Jarl working as port whore, who would believe you? Anyway in several months I ll be accustomed enough to live without consulting with her.Dova - So you will take her place for good?Jarl - Yes, Jarl specifically ordered me to cease all communication with her when I ll be ready and erase everything that could link to her. Actually she told me to brand and sell her to somewhere far away if she ll try to reach out for palace, but maybe I ll surprise her and do that anyway.Dova - Seems she found her place.Jarl - She wanted you to know what happened to her. She also wanted to say few words personally, but trusted me to relay her message:Dova - What is it?Jarl - "Thank you for everything".[quest outcome - Jarl became trashiest port whore and her double took place at throne.]3) Tormentor and PunisherDova - You look bit down, is everything alright?Jarl - Yes, I am alright.Dova - If you don't mind me prying, how is your problem with device?Jarl - I followed your advice, it is really numb body being whipped several hours straight.Dova - Hours? Damn, he is good.Jarl - He usually start by hogging me in chains and using small leather lash. He always angry that my devices protect most sensitive parts.Dova - Chains and leather lash - thats classic.Jarl - He use ice, fire, needles, whips, cold iron perverse tools and sometimes some enchanted rods and wands. Every time different and every time I think that I would die.Dova - Wow, rich imagination.Jarl - And then he making me beg for it.Dova - For what?Jarl - It depends on his mood - to stop pain, to press harder, to kill me, but usually to let me please him by my mouth. And every time he doesn't stop until I beg sincerely.Dova - Oh, so he makes you...Jarl - Yes, to please him, or some strangers, though they I never see their faces. He keep me in blindfold, but I think I recognized few people by voice.Dova - And how do you react when you meet them in regular life?Jarl - Its humiliating, there are no direct insults, but I hear whispers and smirks behind my back.Dova - So your life now is endless hell of being jolted, whipped, used, humiliated?Jarl - Yes, all according my husband's will.Dova - About your husband. I have to confess, plug that torture you so much...Jarl - What about it?Dova - I switched it, original one give immense comfort and pleasure, one I gave you intended for punishing misbehaving slaves.Jarl - ...Dova - Your husband truly loved you and now you pleasing man he despised most.Jarl - If you would have said that in first days I would order guards to execute you.Dova - What about now?Jarl - Thank you.Dova - What?!Jarl - I haven't told you everything, I am not only being tortured and used as toy. Master trained me, he trained me well.Dova - Trained?Jarl - Yes, I resisted at first, but eventually he broke my spirit, my will, and finally I gladly acknowledged my place at his feet.Dova - So now?Jarl - I do everything he want, I want what I am being told, I love to be told. Sometimes I invent new way to humiliate myself and beg my master to consider it.Dova - And how do you feel about your husband now?Jarl - I ll beg my master to summon ghost of my husband to witness me getting whipped and used in most degrading ways in front of full court.Dova - Iam glad that you found your place.Jarl - Once again, thank you for everything.[quest outcome - Jarl became slave and miserable sex toy of person whom her husband despised most.] I guess it need some editing, but you can get overall idea. Tell me if you like to implement it in any form and want me to rework text in some "easier to put in mod" way or put alternative dialogue options for right flavor. Also I would appreciate random opinions from random spoiled mod users. Edited April 20, 2015 by AprilR
Mister X Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Vela, you have one week to finish that update. During this week, the parts of my new PC will arrive and the rest of the week I will assemble it. And I expect to be able to play DD - CD v4 when I've finished that xD Else you would tease me too much with those teaser pics The first package arrived yesterday ... Vela, you are a lucky guy, the first HDD was broken, and a new one was sent out today. You have time until friday ... else, I will find you ... and I will set my Chaurus on you ...
badbat111 Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Vela, you have one week to finish that update. During this week, the parts of my new PC will arrive and the rest of the week I will assemble it. And I expect to be able to play DD - CD v4 when I've finished that xD Else you would tease me too much with those teaser pics The first package arrived yesterday ... Vela, you are a lucky guy, the first HDD was broken, and a new one was sent out today. You have time until friday ... else, I will find you ... and I will set my Chaurus on you ... or have him on display in cd shop
Veladarius Posted April 20, 2015 Author Posted April 20, 2015 Friday? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... no, not even close. The CK is trying its hardest to kill me on the Property Slave quest and has required making new characters for testing every 2-3 days (setting up 40+ MCM menus each time is a pain in the ass). There are a number of things that don't change in game if changed in the CK and since I am testing towards the ends I have to get to those parts (can't skip them). There are a few ways to speed up the process but I won't say what they are... What is left to do on this part is: 1- Replace some npc's as no matter what I do they are hostile to everyone (2-3 of them) 2- Test the various options on the Bad End and adjust as needed 3- Finish up the last advancement quest, mostly minor things 4- Make some adjustments to the transition to the manor, timing on a few scenes are off a bit. 5- Set up the scenario for if you try running away. This is probably the hardest thing to set up out of what I have planned for v4. I have found the issue with npc's not liking to wander by the shop, apparently the CK wants you to not only finalize any cells you change navmeshes on but also every single one that touches it as well.
MonkeyShoulder Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Vel I take it when the next TES comes out you hope they've got a new and better modding kit?
Veladarius Posted April 20, 2015 Author Posted April 20, 2015 Vel I take it when the next TES comes out you hope they've got a new and better modding kit? One where things work instead of having to script everything. From discussions with galgat on modding there are a number of things in the CK that worked in Oblivion / Fallout that no longer work.
badbat111 Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Vel I take it when the next TES comes out you hope they've got a new and better modding kit? One where things work instead of having to script everything. From discussions with galgat on modding there are a number of things in the CK that worked in Oblivion / Fallout that no longer work. or someone with skill can make a sexkit a sexlab version of construction set that has all features and isnt hard to use like oblivion wasnt to hard but skyrims construction set it makes me want to pull my hair out
Veladarius Posted April 21, 2015 Author Posted April 21, 2015 I think I need to replace my power supply, in the last week I have noticed that if my video card is running full out it starts crashing my computer. The video card is a few months old but the power supply is around 5 years old. I know the card isn't overheating as it starts doing it when it hits 50c - 55c where it easily hit 60c when I first bought it with no issues.
greyspammer Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 I think I need to replace my power supply, in the last week I have noticed that if my video card is running full out it starts crashing my computer. The video card is a few months old but the power supply is around 5 years old. I know the card isn't overheating as it starts doing it when it hits 50c - 55c where it easily hit 60c when I first bought it with no issues. Depends on the PSU. They do age and sometimes they're just not designed for the power draw of newer cards, yes. But maybe it's a connection issue. Let's say you have a card that has 2 power connectors and draws 350W when under full load. That's 30A at 12V. And let's say your PSU has several 12V rails, with each capable of giving 20A. If you then connect both plugs on the card to just one cable (which most people do because it's easy and they don't have so much cable going through their PC) then the entire card gets only 26A (20 from the cable and 6 from the PEG slot itself). Which is not enough. Use two separate cables from two different rails (check the manual for which ones) however and you have 46A total. Which would be enough to power your 30A card. Just saying. Sometimes it's the simple things (like rearranging the cabling).
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