Adventures with Balazar (Balazar's Bitch) - Beta

[xtro334]

On 2/20/2024 at 1:32 AM, Gristle said:

Yes. Figuring out where Shadr is going may be a clue to solving the problem.

After the quest Shadr normally goes to stable, unless one have some improved AI that makes him goes elsewhere.

Since party is during night I think Shadr is trying to go back to house for his bed time. 😜

 

Until first quest on bridge is started with conversation he will sit there, but after conversation he will head for the stables

 

Did notis that house rules for stables was changed when I visited him to talk about skooma after 20:00. Is it switched back after that scene?

If it is an alternate instance of that house, the game might put him in original instance.

Edited March 15, 2024 by xtro334

[xtro334]

On 2/18/2024 at 9:26 PM, Gristle said:

Have you run the vanilla Shadr/Sapphire quest in your game? (In other words, does Shadr hang out inside Riften or at the stables in your game?) Do you have any mods that change NPC behavior? 

Think Sexlab solution give a minor change to that quest. But not sure if it should change behavior, since it only adds sex option for solution.

[killer905]

@Gristle

I don't know if you'll like them, but it was harder than I thought ;3

 

Housecarl

Spoiler

Collar
- I see thane that you have a tendency to be submissive. Don't worry I won't tell anyone. I promise.
- Since when do thanes wear a collar? I think I spent too much time on training.
- I thought thanes were mentally stronger. I was wrong.
- I think I should be the one to wear it, not you, thane.
- It makes me want to wear it myself.
- Nice to know my thane is 'naughty'. I won't tell anyone *giggles*.
- Can I get that too? Please.
- I admit I've had naughty dreams with you. But this... *wow*.

 

Naked
- I hope you don't go without clothes or armour outside the house either.
- *Bite lips* You make this place very hot, thane.
- I see you're not ashamed of your body, or maybe you're a silent admirer of Dibella?
- Dibella herself seems to have blessed you.
- Other women must be jealous of what nature has given you.
- I feel a little jealous of the body you have.
- Do you walk naked in the wilds of Skyrim too? That will make it harder for me to protect you.

 

With Balazar
- Dremora? Have you forgotten that dremors are evil and are just waiting for our little mistake?
- And here is another case where it is confirmed that for the dremora we are toys.
- I'm curious to know what it's like to be fucked by a dremora. Unfortunately without thane's permission I can only dream.
- What the... dremora with you? Is this some kind of joke or what? 
- Friendly dremora... that's something I haven't seen before.

 

Dialogue only for Rift (After quest for jarl)
- I know I couldn't replace you in the task from the jarl, but I've since been referred to as 'Whore Housecarl'.
- Thane, I am saddened to hear that the residents call you "Whore Thane" *sigh*.
- If I could I would turn back time and take care of this task for you. If only there was a once in a lifetime opportunity to do so....
- It's a good thing the residents haven't forgotten me and you won't have to live with your new nickname alone.

 

Spouse 

Spoiler

Collar
- Does this collar mean I'm the one in charge in this relationship?
- In the mood for naughty games, eh?
- You've been a naughty girl, eh? Maybe I should 'punish' you you think?
- For me, you can be submissive and without that collar.
- I don't suppose you walk outside the house wearing that collar, do you?

 

Naked
- My beautiful wife and in addition naked.... I'm having naughty thoughts right now.
- I hope outside the house you don't walk around without anything on.
- Such a nice body you have. *clicks your breast* Nice bouncing *giggles*.
- I see you're ready to fuck, eh?

 

With Balazar
- I know I'm not able to please you, but with a dremora! You'd be ashamed...
- I hope she kisses better than that dremora.
- Okay honey I'll pretend you're cheating on me with Redguard instead of the dremora.
- Can your new friend get the dremora for me? I'm a bit jealous of your dremora.

 

Dialogue only for Rift (After quest for Jarl)
- You think I haven't heard about you being a whore? Echh, I have a wife whore....
- You should have used your Housecarl for that than yourself. Didn't you think of that?
- I hope you've finished taking every dick in town after that task from Jarl?

 

[Gristle]

12 hours ago, xtro334 said:

Shadr still leaves in the warehouse party, but now he at least comes back, and leaves and comes back.... rinse and repeat. 😉

Thanks for the feedback. I checked Shadr and he is being put into an quest alias and that alias has the right AI packages during all of the right stages to have him start walking toward the warehouse after you're done talking to him, and then teleport the rest of the way to the warehouse if he's not there once you pass through the gate to the docks, and then hold position in the warehouse, except when he force greets you after you enter the warehouse.  Such alias packages should take precedence over his standard actor packages. The only thing that should take precedence over these alias packages is a quest alias in another quest with a higher priority (and the Riften quest has a 90 priority). 

12 hours ago, xtro334 said:

The wolf in the mine do not follow me out of mine, but since I had speak with animals I could make him a follower until I got back to the warehouse.

Did he have the dialogue: "You're OK now, Finjar. Come with me and I'll take you home."? That should make him follow. If not, then the sex with the second spider didn't finish.

12 hours ago, xtro334 said:

Would be good if we could tell Balazar to switch form to dog close to city, and not having Balazar say that he do not need that because the darkness will hide him (Spoiler: It will not).

You can ask Balazar to stay in dog form, once you tell him you want to continue with him after the temple. "Will you please stay in dog form for me?" You can also go back. "I don't mind if you take your true form when you wish."

 

Although personally, I rather enjoy it when Balazar gets into fights with guards. 

[Gristle]

5 hours ago, killer905 said:

@Gristle

I don't know if you'll like them, but it was harder than I thought ;3

 

Housecarl

  Reveal hidden contents

Collar
- I see thane that you have a tendency to be submissive. Don't worry I won't tell anyone. I promise.
- Since when do thanes wear a collar? I think I spent too much time on training.
- I thought thanes were mentally stronger. I was wrong.
- I think I should be the one to wear it, not you, thane.
- It makes me want to wear it myself.
- Nice to know my thane is 'naughty'. I won't tell anyone *giggles*.
- Can I get that too? Please.
- I admit I've had naughty dreams with you. But this... *wow*.

 

Naked
- I hope you don't go without clothes or armour outside the house either.
- *Bite lips* You make this place very hot, thane.
- I see you're not ashamed of your body, or maybe you're a silent admirer of Dibella?
- Dibella herself seems to have blessed you.
- Other women must be jealous of what nature has given you.
- I feel a little jealous of the body you have.
- Do you walk naked in the wilds of Skyrim too? That will make it harder for me to protect you.

 

With Balazar
- Dremora? Have you forgotten that dremors are evil and are just waiting for our little mistake?
- And here is another case where it is confirmed that for the dremora we are toys.
- I'm curious to know what it's like to be fucked by a dremora. Unfortunately without thane's permission I can only dream.
- What the... dremora with you? Is this some kind of joke or what? 
- Friendly dremora... that's something I haven't seen before.

 

Dialogue only for Rift (After quest for jarl)
- I know I couldn't replace you in the task from the jarl, but I've since been referred to as 'Whore Housecarl'.
- Thane, I am saddened to hear that the residents call you "Whore Thane" *sigh*.
- If I could I would turn back time and take care of this task for you. If only there was a once in a lifetime opportunity to do so....
- It's a good thing the residents haven't forgotten me and you won't have to live with your new nickname alone.

 

Spouse 

  Reveal hidden contents

Collar
- Does this collar mean I'm the one in charge in this relationship?
- In the mood for naughty games, eh?
- You've been a naughty girl, eh? Maybe I should 'punish' you you think?
- For me, you can be submissive and without that collar.
- I don't suppose you walk outside the house wearing that collar, do you?

 

Naked
- My beautiful wife and in addition naked.... I'm having naughty thoughts right now.
- I hope outside the house you don't walk around without anything on.
- Such a nice body you have. *clicks your breast* Nice bouncing *giggles*.
- I see you're ready to fuck, eh?

 

With Balazar
- I know I'm not able to please you, but with a dremora! You'd be ashamed...
- I hope she kisses better than that dremora.
- Okay honey I'll pretend you're cheating on me with Redguard instead of the dremora.
- Can your new friend get the dremora for me? I'm a bit jealous of your dremora.

 

Dialogue only for Rift (After quest for Jarl)
- You think I haven't heard about you being a whore? Echh, I have a wife whore....
- You should have used your Housecarl for that than yourself. Didn't you think of that?
- I hope you've finished taking every dick in town after that task from Jarl?

 

Thanks. I like them (and I know how hard writing these can be!), but some of them may not work well when repeated. For example, "Friendly dremora... that's something I haven't seen before." works fine the first time, but not so well the second (or tenth) time. Comments can easily set to be one-time only, but then the immersion is over fast. 

 

Comments that are questions can also cause problems. For example, "I don't suppose you walk outside the house wearing that collar, do you?" is going to sound wrong if the spouse is a follower, in which case the spouse will already know if this is true. 

 

For these reasons, I like to write comments that are less specific so that they work better in all situations and also a bit shorter and more general to work better when repeated. I also like to try to avoid questions unless they are rhetorical (e.g., "What kind of Thane walks around naked and collared?!").

 

So, I can definitely make use of these, but I would likely shorten them and make them a bit more generic.

[blahity]

@GristleHope you don't mind me throwing a few lines your way. Feel free to use them if you think they are a good fit.

 

Housecarl

Spoiler

·         Collar

o   *laughs* If my Thane requires walkies through town, I can oblige.

o   Perhaps I could interest you in some training… for dogs. *laugh*

o   Make sure you don’t tighten your collar too tight, my thane.

·         Naked

o   Thane! You’re dripping all over the floor! Are you that aroused?

o   It is your home my thane, you may do as you wish.

·         With Balazar

o   I guess the dog trained you! *laughs*

o   If the Daedra is your master, that makes him mine too.

o   Master Balazar’s orders supersede yours my thane.

o   Master Balazar says you may request a walk outside whenever you wish, my thane. Say the word and I’ll get the leash.

o   Master Balazar has commanded that I treat you as his pet in his presence, my thane.

·         Riften added dialogue

o   Word of your whoring adventure in Riften continues to spread.

o   You should know that many praise your skill with cocks.

 

Spouse

Spoiler

·         Collar

o   That collar suits you, my love.

o   I should get a matching leash and Pet Suit to go with that collar.

o   That collar always turns you on, doesn’t it?

·         Naked

o   I could gaze at your slutty body for hours.

o   The neighbors are so jealous that I can have you whenever I desire.

o   I see you require my attention.

·         With Balazar

o   Balazar and I had a very fun conversation about all the different things he should order you to do.

o   I admit, it’s very fun seeing you be treated like a pet.

o   I still can't get over how well-behaved you’ve become since Balazar arrived!

o   I can see why you like Balazar so much, he’s so amazing at sex! Even better than you!

o   Balazar says you’re becoming more obedient and submissive! Make sure you thank him for taking the time to train you!

o   I promised Balazar that I would pet-sit for him whenever he is away. You’re lucky to have an owner that cares about your well-being!

·         Riften added dialogue

o   I heard about the “quest” the Jarl gave you in Riften! *laughs*

o   Ever since Riften you’ve been receiving fan letters. I’ve been replying to them for you, agreeing to whatever they ask. Have fun!

 

Went a different direction with the two of them.

[killer905]

6 hours ago, Gristle said:

Thanks. I like them (and I know how hard writing these can be!), but some of them may not work well when repeated. For example, "Friendly dremora... that's something I haven't seen before." works fine the first time, but not so well the second (or tenth) time. Comments can easily set to be one-time only, but then the immersion is over fast. 

 

Comments that are questions can also cause problems. For example, "I don't suppose you walk outside the house wearing that collar, do you?" is going to sound wrong if the spouse is a follower, in which case the spouse will already know if this is true. 

 

For these reasons, I like to write comments that are less specific so that they work better in all situations and also a bit shorter and more general to work better when repeated. I also like to try to avoid questions unless they are rhetorical (e.g., "What kind of Thane walks around naked and collared?!").

 

So, I can definitely make use of these, but I would likely shorten them and make them a bit more generic.

I was betting that spouse sits at home all the time, but the fact here is you are right. A little tweaking or maybe I'll come up with something extra.

4 hours ago, blahity said:

@GristleHope you don't mind me throwing a few lines your way. Feel free to use them if you think they are a good fit.

 

Housecarl

  Hide contents

·         Collar

 

o   *laughs* If my Thane requires walkies through town, I can oblige.

 

o   Perhaps I could interest you in some training… for dogs. *laugh*

 

o   Make sure you don’t tighten your collar too tight, my thane.

 

·         Naked

 

o   Thane! You’re dripping all over the floor! Are you that aroused?

 

o   It is your home my thane, you may do as you wish.

 

·         With Balazar

 

o   I guess the dog trained you! *laughs*

 

o   If the Daedra is your master, that makes him mine too.

 

o   Master Balazar’s orders supersede yours my thane.

 

o   Master Balazar says you may request a walk outside whenever you wish, my thane. Say the word and I’ll get the leash.

 

o   Master Balazar has commanded that I treat you as his pet in his presence, my thane.

 

·         Riften added dialogue

 

o   Word of your whoring adventure in Riften continues to spread.

 

o   You should know that many praise your skill with cocks.

 

 

Spouse

  Hide contents

·         Collar

 

o   That collar suits you, my love.

 

o   I should get a matching leash and Pet Suit to go with that collar.

 

o   That collar always turns you on, doesn’t it?

 

·         Naked

 

o   I could gaze at your slutty body for hours.

 

o   The neighbors are so jealous that I can have you whenever I desire.

 

o   I see you require my attention.

 

·         With Balazar

 

o   Balazar and I had a very fun conversation about all the different things he should order you to do.

 

o   I admit, it’s very fun seeing you be treated like a pet.

 

o   I still can't get over how well-behaved you’ve become since Balazar arrived!

 

o   I can see why you like Balazar so much, he’s so amazing at sex! Even better than you!

 

o   Balazar says you’re becoming more obedient and submissive! Make sure you thank him for taking the time to train you!

 

o   I promised Balazar that I would pet-sit for him whenever he is away. You’re lucky to have an owner that cares about your well-being!

 

·         Riften added dialogue

 

o   I heard about the “quest” the Jarl gave you in Riften! *laughs*

 

o   Ever since Riften you’ve been receiving fan letters. I’ve been replying to them for you, agreeing to whatever they ask. Have fun!

 

 

Went a different direction with the two of them.

Nice dialogues, but rather in my opinion Housecarl cannot laugh at his Thane no matter how much falls.

[DivineDefiance]

8 hours ago, blahity said:

@GristleHope you don't mind me throwing a few lines your way. Feel free to use them if you think they are a good fit.

 

Housecarl

  Reveal hidden contents

·         Collar

 

o   *laughs* If my Thane requires walkies through town, I can oblige.

 

o   Perhaps I could interest you in some training… for dogs. *laugh*

 

o   Make sure you don’t tighten your collar too tight, my thane.

 

·         Naked

 

o   Thane! You’re dripping all over the floor! Are you that aroused?

 

o   It is your home my thane, you may do as you wish.

 

·         With Balazar

 

o   I guess the dog trained you! *laughs*

 

o   If the Daedra is your master, that makes him mine too.

 

o   Master Balazar’s orders supersede yours my thane.

 

o   Master Balazar says you may request a walk outside whenever you wish, my thane. Say the word and I’ll get the leash.

 

o   Master Balazar has commanded that I treat you as his pet in his presence, my thane.

 

·         Riften added dialogue

 

o   Word of your whoring adventure in Riften continues to spread.

 

o   You should know that many praise your skill with cocks.

 

 

Spouse

  Reveal hidden contents

·         Collar

 

o   That collar suits you, my love.

 

o   I should get a matching leash and Pet Suit to go with that collar.

 

o   That collar always turns you on, doesn’t it?

 

·         Naked

 

o   I could gaze at your slutty body for hours.

 

o   The neighbors are so jealous that I can have you whenever I desire.

 

o   I see you require my attention.

 

·         With Balazar

 

o   Balazar and I had a very fun conversation about all the different things he should order you to do.

 

o   I admit, it’s very fun seeing you be treated like a pet.

 

o   I still can't get over how well-behaved you’ve become since Balazar arrived!

 

o   I can see why you like Balazar so much, he’s so amazing at sex! Even better than you!

 

o   Balazar says you’re becoming more obedient and submissive! Make sure you thank him for taking the time to train you!

 

o   I promised Balazar that I would pet-sit for him whenever he is away. You’re lucky to have an owner that cares about your well-being!

 

·         Riften added dialogue

 

o   I heard about the “quest” the Jarl gave you in Riften! *laughs*

 

o   Ever since Riften you’ve been receiving fan letters. I’ve been replying to them for you, agreeing to whatever they ask. Have fun!

 

 

Went a different direction with the two of them.

obviously it'd be more work (and I'm not expecting this) but it'd be cool if dialogue lines like this lead to side quests or/and scenes.

[blahity]

4 hours ago, killer905 said:

Nice dialogues, but rather in my opinion Housecarl cannot laugh at his Thane no matter how much falls.

Lydia's most famous line is a bit begruging acceptance, but you are right that most of them  are pretty stoic all the time. Didn't think about that.

[killer905]

1 hour ago, blahity said:

Lydia's most famous line is a bit begruging acceptance, but you are right that most of them  are pretty stoic all the time. Didn't think about that.

Which one? It is likely that in my language this dialogue may have been distorted in the translation process.

[blahity]

@killer905In English Lydia does a heavy sigh and and then says she "is sworn to carry our burdens" in a very annoyed way. When Skyrim came out I think it was one of 2 lines for accessing her inventory so people would hear it over and over. Since Lydia is the first housecarl people recruit, she earned a bit of a reputation

[killer905]

1 minute ago, blahity said:

@killer905In English Lydia does a heavy sigh and and then says she "is sworn to carry our burdens" in a very annoyed way. When Skyrim came out I think it was one of 2 lines for accessing her inventory so people would hear it over and over. Since Lydia is the first housecarl people recruit, she earned a bit of a reputation

hah, well I definitely didn't feel it Because in my language it's a simple answer without the "sigh"

[xtro334]

On 3/16/2024 at 5:55 AM, Gristle said:

Did he have the dialogue: "You're OK now, Finjar. Come with me and I'll take you home."? That should make him follow. If not, then the sex with the second spider didn't finish.

I think problem was that sex scene with Finjar did not trigger after freeing him, after scenes with spiders.

After making Finjar a follower, and leaving the mine, the scene triggered eventually when I was on my way to Riften.

 

This could be from a script bloat with competing events.

[AthenaTheLover]

Interesting... any recommended animation packs so that there is no case of a task not progressing because there was no particular animation? I prefer to avoid setstage.

[Gristle]

7 hours ago, xtro334 said:

I think problem was that sex scene with Finjar did not trigger after freeing him, after scenes with spiders.

After making Finjar a follower, and leaving the mine, the scene triggered eventually when I was on my way to Riften.

Actually, the sex scene with Finjar is not a requirement for him to follow. In fact, it is set up so that it cannot occur in an interior location. It is also somewhat random. The intention is for it to trigger somewhere on the way back to Riften. So, if he has the "You're OK now, Finjar. Come with me and I'll take you home." dialogue, it should make him follow you. If he does not have that dialogue, then something went wrong with the spider sex scene.

[smilyguy]

I'm stuck on asking Sylgia about the white wolf I asked her about it but the quest never updated. Still tells me to talk to her but there are no more options related to this.

 

Edit: I was able to fix this issue with the console command in this thread, but I figured you'd want to know about it.

Edited March 18, 2024 by smilyguy

[xtro334]

On 3/17/2024 at 5:59 PM, Gristle said:

Actually, the sex scene with Finjar is not a requirement for him to follow. In fact, it is set up so that it cannot occur in an interior location. It is also somewhat random. The intention is for it to trigger somewhere on the way back to Riften. So, if he has the "You're OK now, Finjar. Come with me and I'll take you home." dialogue, it should make him follow you. If he does not have that dialogue, then something went wrong with the spider sex scene.

I did get that dialogue, so spider scene worked as it should, I think.

 

But I do sometimes get competing events that locks events. Guess that is the price for having over 800 mods running. 😜

A pity that mod that should handle events never got finished. 😢

Edited March 19, 2024 by xtro334

[tulipo]

Finjar and the other wolf didn't have dick

[Gristle]

11 hours ago, tulipo said:

Finjar and the other wolf didn't have dick

This mod just calls SexLab to start creature sex. It doesn't have any other control over meshes or animation. I would check to make sure you have the right versions of More Nasty Critters and Creature Framework installed.

[luo521cn]

Can you briefly disclose the content of the next update?

[Kernog]

I'm eager to play through this mod. I have a couple questions related to this mod's compatibility with other kinds of mods, in order to make my experience as smooth as possible.

Would you or someone who was in one of these two cases be so kind as to answer ?

 

• Should I disable my defeat mod, and if so should I do it right from new game or only when Balazar is with me?
• How well (or how badly) does this mod interact with other mods adding random events and quests ? More specifically, Bakafactory's mods (BaboDialogue, Approach, Horrible Harassement)?

[Amatum]

On 3/23/2024 at 11:32 AM, Kernog said:

I'm eager to play through this mod. I have a couple questions related to this mod's compatibility with other kinds of mods, in order to make my experience as smooth as possible.

Would you or someone who was in one of these two cases be so kind as to answer ?

 

• Should I disable my defeat mod, and if so should I do it right from new game or only when Balazar is with me?
• How well (or how badly) does this mod interact with other mods adding random events and quests ? More specifically, Bakafactory's mods (BaboDialogue, Approach, Horrible Harassement)?

 

I would disable Deviously Helpless (from the MCM) for the Jarl Riften Quest, from my experience.

Edited March 27, 2024 by Amatum

[Gristle]

On 3/23/2024 at 5:16 AM, luo521cn said:

Can you briefly disclose the content of the next update?

It will include the next Jarl quest, which will be to gain favor with the Jarl of Markarth (by dealing with Forsworn agents and infiltrators). It may also include a new collar choice. 

[Gristle]

On 3/23/2024 at 8:32 AM, Kernog said:

I'm eager to play through this mod. I have a couple questions related to this mod's compatibility with other kinds of mods, in order to make my experience as smooth as possible.

Would you or someone who was in one of these two cases be so kind as to answer ?

 

• Should I disable my defeat mod, and if so should I do it right from new game or only when Balazar is with me?
• How well (or how badly) does this mod interact with other mods adding random events and quests ? More specifically, Bakafactory's mods (BaboDialogue, Approach, Horrible Harassement)?

I don't normally play defeat mods but there are a couple of instances where this mod mixes combat and sex. My thinking is that, for this reason, a defeat mod is not really needed and I would disable it for a play-through of this mod. It could mess up one or two scenes. On my playtesting play-throughs, I do disable Aroused Creatures. I never saw a conflict, but it made it hard to playtest this mod (and could potentially cause conflicts). 

 

On the other hand, I have been running SLSF Fame Comments alongside this mod and haven't had any issues with its random sex scenes. Though I also dialed down the comment/event frequency to speed my playtesting of this mod. Also, SLSF Fame Comments will essentially turn itself off when the PC or the NPC speaker is in a scripted "scene". I don't know if the mods you list do that. If they don't, then they could interrupt one of the "scenes" in this mod. (There are none in Parts I or II, but a couple in Part III - the Jarl Riften quest.)

 

Basically, because Part III (which is only the Jarl Riften quest at the moment) uses "scenes" and has triggers that detect when a SexLab scene ends, it is more sensitive to interruptions than Parts I or II. So, you can probably get away with other mod interruptions until you show up in Riften.

 

[unwashed biomass]

There is a bug when player is involved in sexlab scene and follower (or maybe any npc) has sex with Balazar. Mod throws comments as if player would be used by Balazar.

Some1 mentioned invisible clothing on Balazar, i aswell experienced that bug.