Angrim's Apprentice (Feb-10-2016)

[Kitsudragon]

 

I'm really getting frustrated with this mod. I've gotten to the ending where the player gets the succubus curse. Ironically, I don't consider this a 'bad' ending, because of the bonuses it confers. Sure she has to sleep around a lot, but that's not as much of a problem as it looks at first glance.

 

However, I'm at the sequence where Angrim betrays the player, and summons the Dremora. She has "raging lust" as a condition in her magic-affecting list. When the player speaks with Angrim about all the lust, it starts the sequence, "raging lust" goes away, the emissary shows up and starts a few aborted sex sequences (starts, aborts, they just stand there,) and then when I select Angrim, he says that he's got someone who can use her, then everyone just stands around and nothing happens. There's no "succubus curse" in the magic-affecting table, either.

 

What just happened, and how do I fix this?

 

I think all of your issues come down to whatever is preventing the sex sequences.  That sounds like some other mod interfering, or possibly just massive script lag (your Papyrus log might indicate which).  But it can't be any of the common mods since nobody else is reporting similar issues.

 

For the aftermath, Angrim only mentions 'someone else' if either Simple Slavery or DvCidhna is installed.  The only thing I can think of that matches your symptom there is if you've already played the DvCidhna pirate quest.  Is that guess correct?

 

 

You're probably right. I actually started a new game shortly after. (I've lost count how many times I've restarted that game...) The most recent playthrough worked without a hitch, although I was confused why Angrim made the comment about someone using her and then everyone just stands around. I'd started the game with LAL, and I have Simple Slavery loaded, which by coincidence started the character on the pirate ship. So with that condition already flagged, I guess the sequence with Angrim aborted.

[JCopler]

So, what book and where I'm supposed to find it when Angrim asks me to get a book from Cronvangr Hall ??

[stobor]

Last time I checked, the book was in the chamber w/ the spider boss, in a chest or egg sac (don't remember which).

[Centrophy]

Hmm, so I cast ensnare on Angrim with Diblla's Boon and speak to him. The screen goes black for a second, then the sex scene plays, and character has none of the restraints. The problem is that the only dialogue options angrim now has are "What do you have for sale?" and the [more dialogue options] from SexLab Dialogues (for SD+). I was wondering if there's a console command to force the quest to advance since I'm almost positive that it's a mod compatibility issue (I don't think Angrim should be selling Apocalypse spellbooks).

 

That said, glad you added a way to remove the ghost form.

[Content Consumer]

@stobor

I put an entry point into Angrim's Apprentice into an ASLAL plugin (post) but was informed that you didn't want Angrim's Apprentice to be accessed by being sold by slavery... is an alternate start okay? It doesn't actually do anything with your mod directly, it just spawns you outside the Western Watchtower with a quest journal entry that tells you where to look for him...

Sorry for asking after the fact.

[stobor]

An alternate start is fine.  I didn't want it as a Simple Slavery outcome because that doesn't fit the existing dialogue (so I turned that suggestion on its head, and made Simple Slavery an outcome of Angrim's quest instead of the other way around).

[Sospice]

An alternate start is fine.  I didn't want it as a Simple Slavery outcome because that doesn't fit the existing dialogue (so I turned that suggestion on its head, and made Simple Slavery an outcome of Angrim's quest instead of the other way around).

 

Perfect solution, it works out nicely.

 

I finished the mod (with the simple slavery ending). I was wondering though, if you get the ghost ending, and then get cured, can you still pick up with angrim where you left off and pursue one of the other endings? Story-wise I don't see any conflict. Is it possible to use a console command to continue the alternate quest chain if the mod isn't set up to do that? 

[stobor]

I don't think it is possible to take both branches, no.  I'd have to put some thought into which stages (some are shared) could safely be made repeatable.

[SexDwarf2250]

I would like to try things out, if this mod had an option to simply add the new spells it includes into leveled lists and shops, instead of (or in addition to) the quests. Playing a male character, I don't really care to go through a bunch more dirty-old-man quests, but sex magic is always fun.

[Guest]

In the quest "Dalliance" I went to Rannveig's Fast and it seems to be a dead end. Is there nothing more after that? Is it a WIP?

[worik]

In the quest "Dalliance" I went to Rannveig's Fast and it seems to be a dead end. Is there nothing more after that? Is it a WIP?

 

Hm, what do you mean with "dead end"? Are you stuck somewhere? Can you describe what you did and where you see a "dead end"?

[worik]

And a quick question from myself .. just out of curiousity :

I read in earier posts that the player gets at some point a belt with plugs from Angrim. So far I am belted by him, but under what conditions would he also be using the plugs?

Is it random chance? I visited him quite a few times ( maybe 3 or 4 ) since I was belted for the first time but never received the plugs.

 

And as a side note: I was reluctant at first, that this belt-thing might break other LL-mods where I have to oblige to my duties as a sister of Dibella .. But no such problems! In fact it makes my tasks there just a bit more "challenging"

[Guest]

 

In the quest "Dalliance" I went to Rannveig's Fast and it seems to be a dead end. Is there nothing more after that? Is it a WIP?

 

Hm, what do you mean with "dead end"? Are you stuck somewhere? Can you describe what you did and where you see a "dead end"?

 

 

I'm not expecting you to have the answer seeing you are not the author of the mod but here is what I did: Went to Rannveig's Fast and found the book. It turns out to be a "beer-soaked tome" and my journal gets updated to something like "The book was destroyed. It seems to be a dead end". From that point there is no objective or quest marker hinting at what to do, so I'm stuck there.

[PubliusNV]

After you pick up the beer soaked tome, the next time you sleep you get a surprise.

[stobor]

@worik: As I recall, it has a random chance (approaching 100% as you learn more of his spells).  He might also be cross with you if you've been sneaking the key behind his back.

 

@nightwolf: What PubliusNV said.

[crs030]

So im kind of lost and didn't find anything helpfull while searching through this topic.

 

I started a new game (with Skyrim Unbound), went to his cellar, he "casts his first spell" on me, then i ask him if he can teach me this spell and he tells me to go mo the Temple of Dibella to get some training or something like that.

So i went to Markath an did the quest where you have to go to eather Rorikstead or Karthwasten to "help" someone there. The Quest showed up in the Journal, worked fine and was completet with reciving the Dibellas Boon thing. At least i think this is what Angrim mentioned since i didn't remember that Sisterhood of Dibella added such a Quest.

Speaking of which i have Sisterhood of Dibella installed and also done the Sybil Quest and collectet 10 Marksof Dibella.

 

I went back to Angrim but when i asked him again to teach me the spell but he still tells me to go to Markath. So i went out and done some other quests and now the only Dialogue option is to aks him to renew the spell but not to teach it to me.

 

No quest ever started form speaking with Angrim and i learned no spell form him. When i ask him to renew the spell the scene plays fine and i get the Manaboost. The quests from the Books in the cellar start, but i don't want to do them befor any Quest form Angrim since they are only sidequest as far as i understand.

[Anicae]

So, a question.

 

Everything worked fine until now (some ctd's on the way but that's because my game is totally unstable with all the mods I have installed and this is just a "try out some quest mods" profile and such...)

 

Putting in spoiler for anyone not through yet. Read at your own risk or something, don't read if you don't want spoilers^^

 

 

 

Anyways. My PC was a bad girl, stole the key, got Ensnare and then went to Angrim, got belted again (with the plugs) and sent on her way. Did another quest to get a book for him, finished and got a necklace or something. Now, as far as I understand... and with everything going on, I guess this should be the end now, right?

 

I mean, if I go to Angrim now, after delivering the book to him, and talk to him I get 2 choices. Anything more to learn and can't concentrate, just thinking about sex. Now, if I choose anything new to learn he either says nope, sends me on my way or, tells me to lie down and has his way with me^^ and then sends me on my way. The other, thinking about sex all the time, gets me to him puting on some bondage and then telling me I'm too trusting, summons daedra, some sex, then slavery. This is one of the endings, right?

 

Now, I tried it with active Ensnare on my PC, told him about my problem, he tells me I'm not used to the things and wants to relieve me of my urges. Bondage (if I say no, he just insults me and then nothing), sex, and then... you guessed it^^ nothing. Is that right? I don't have the raging... magic effect anymore but Angrim doesn't react in any way as if he's enthralled? Should he? Some help please?^^ 

 

Also, how do I get the other ending? Got Dibellas boon or whatever, just want to... experience all the endings (except the ghosts one, screwed that up probably by not turning into a ghost in Yngvild^^

 

 

[Guest]

So I did Dalliance and got visited by some Dremora and now she's following me around. When does she go back to where she belong? I didn't sign up for this. I could use the console to remove her but I'm afraid I might ruin something.

[stobor]

Eh?  She should go away on her own, when the "spell" runs out.  A few minutes at most.

[PubliusNV]

So, a question.

 

Everything worked fine until now (some ctd's on the way but that's because my game is totally unstable with all the mods I have installed and this is just a "try out some quest mods" profile and such...)

 

Putting in spoiler for anyone not through yet. Read at your own risk or something, don't read if you don't want spoilers^^

 

 

 

Anyways. My PC was a bad girl, stole the key, got Ensnare and then went to Angrim, got belted again (with the plugs) and sent on her way. Did another quest to get a book for him, finished and got a necklace or something. Now, as far as I understand... and with everything going on, I guess this should be the end now, right?

 

I mean, if I go to Angrim now, after delivering the book to him, and talk to him I get 2 choices. Anything more to learn and can't concentrate, just thinking about sex. Now, if I choose anything new to learn he either says nope, sends me on my way or, tells me to lie down and has his way with me^^ and then sends me on my way. The other, thinking about sex all the time, gets me to him puting on some bondage and then telling me I'm too trusting, summons daedra, some sex, then slavery. This is one of the endings, right?

 

Now, I tried it with active Ensnare on my PC, told him about my problem, he tells me I'm not used to the things and wants to relieve me of my urges. Bondage (if I say no, he just insults me and then nothing), sex, and then... you guessed it^^ nothing. Is that right? I don't have the raging... magic effect anymore but Angrim doesn't react in any way as if he's enthralled? Should he? Some help please?^^ 

 

Also, how do I get the other ending? Got Dibellas boon or whatever, just want to... experience all the endings (except the ghosts one, screwed that up probably by not turning into a ghost in Yngvild^^

 

 

 

 

 

If you cast Ensnare on him before having sex, then you should have gotten the ending where he's your thrall.  If you check your active magical effects

you should see one there that boosts your magicka.  Unfortunately I can't remember the name of the effect, but you should be able to spot it.  Also, if you talk to him afterwards, he'll have some dialogue that makes it clear he's your thrall.  You'll also have the option to recruit him as a follower if I remember correctly.

 

 

[Guest]

Eh?  She should go away on her own, when the "spell" runs out.  A few minutes at most.

 

Must be a bug then. I even fast travelled to another place and back and there she was again. She also dropped a daedric dagger that I had to delete. I don't know if we were supposed to learn a spell at the same time but I didn't get any new spells.

[PubliusNV]

The daedric dagger is supposed to be there, as a reward for the quest.  I don't know why she didn't disappear, she always has for me.

[stobor]

@nightwolf: The only possibility that occurs to me is if some other mod enormously extended the duration of conjuration spells.

[Caelryn]

So im kind of lost and didn't find anything helpfull while searching through this topic.

 

I started a new game (with Skyrim Unbound), went to his cellar, he "casts his first spell" on me, then i ask him if he can teach me this spell and he tells me to go mo the Temple of Dibella to get some training or something like that.

So i went to Markath an did the quest where you have to go to eather Rorikstead or Karthwasten to "help" someone there. The Quest showed up in the Journal, worked fine and was completet with reciving the Dibellas Boon thing. At least i think this is what Angrim mentioned since i didn't remember that Sisterhood of Dibella added such a Quest.

Speaking of which i have Sisterhood of Dibella installed and also done the Sybil Quest and collectet 10 Marksof Dibella.

 

I went back to Angrim but when i asked him again to teach me the spell but he still tells me to go to Markath. So i went out and done some other quests and now the only Dialogue option is to aks him to renew the spell but not to teach it to me.

 

No quest ever started form speaking with Angrim and i learned no spell form him. When i ask him to renew the spell the scene plays fine and i get the Manaboost. The quests from the Books in the cellar start, but i don't want to do them befor any Quest form Angrim since they are only sidequest as far as i understand.

 

I got the same problem. I keep talking with Angrim but no quest starts. He tells me to go to Markath and Arcadia but I got no quest.

[Hal3023]

I have a little problem playing the mod. When I reach the point where Angrim puts those plugs into your belt, I can't leave the cell anymore... always crashing. It also crashes when saving as soon as the plugs and belt are equipped. Strangely it works fine if I don't play further where I only have the belt. Somebody knows how to fix this?

 

update: The problem seems to be the saving of the game after the plugs are equipped. COC works. As soon as the game is saved ... ctd