Angrim's Apprentice (Feb-10-2016)

[stobor]

@JohnGlock:  I suppose so.  I wish I had some clue how that could fail, but I've never seen that before (nor has anyone else reported similar bugs).

 

@all who have reported crashes with the Dremora: I had a run of those myself, and found that it was crashing when looking up the race/gender-specific alignment tweaks (for DremoraM & SuccubusF).  I disabled that feature in the SexLab MCM temporarily and the crashes went away entirely.  Don't know if that's coincidence or a real bug, but that's an easy thing to try if you run across that problem yourself.  This was with latest (non-beta) SexLab, for what it's worth.

[Kitsunetsuki]

Hi, I'm on the quest to find Zed but there's only 2 map markers. One in Skyrim and one in Solsthiem. The third doesn't exist. Also I seem to have broken Angrim. He won't give me any new lessons, he only gas sex with me and says he's tired when I ask for more lessons. Have I missed something?

[JohnGlock]

Figured it out. Scripting was loading slowly, just had to wait for ~10 seconds for the dialogue to load rather than trying to click through. That's what I get for playing on a potato.

 

Hi, I'm on the quest to find Zed but there's only 2 map markers. One in Skyrim and one in Solsthiem. The third doesn't exist. Also I seem to have broken Angrim. He won't give me any new lessons, he only gas sex with me and says he's tired when I ask for more lessons. Have I missed something?

 

Er, isn't the quest to find Zed part of Devious Devices? As for Angrim, there's a couple conditions that need to be fulfilled to finalize the quest. Your satiation value should be equal to or less than 7  (type help angrimsatiation into console) and the stage of angrimapprenticequest needs to be 60. Have you learned all four spells (Drink Magicka, Drink Vitality, Shadow Dancer, Honeyed Words?)
 

[Kitsunetsuki]

Oh, maybe it is. Sorry about that.

Yes I have learned all four spells but the story with him doesn't progress at all.

Oh, maybe it is. Sorry about that.

Yes I have learned all four spells but the story with him doesn't progress at all.

[JohnGlock]

Did you check those conditions?

[Samson Nite]

Happy New Year Guys!

[stobor]

FYI, I'm working on an update to this mod.  The most likely changes will be:

• adding some newer (optional) animations to the possible selections.
• adding a speech debuff to the ghost form (scared civilians just want the ghost to go away).
• adding a way to permanently remove the ghost form (sacrificing someone to do so).
• changing the daedric dagger in Dalliance to a custom enchanted one.
• adding a keyword to Angrim's belt to prevent other mods from removing it too easily.
• recompiling everything with latest SexLab, checking for warnings and such.

This update is nearing final testing now.

[pinkpunkt]

you are the best stobor !!

[stobor]

New update is up.  Contents:

 

2.10: Small expansion, various fixes, general house-cleaning:

• Added a transition to Simple Slavery and / or Devious Cidhna's Pirate scenario when Angrim is done with the character.  If neither mod is loaded, he just sends her on her way.
• Added some newer (optional) animations to scenes.
• Added a way to permanently remove the Hungry Ghost curse.  Talk to Falion while in ghost form, for hints.
• Added a speech debuff in ghost form.
• Added a chance for a Vigilant exorcist to show up in cities.  Chances go up if you've gotten ghost-related comments from NPCs, and go down if you avoid such notice.
• Added a new custom enchanted daedric dagger in place of the vanilla one in Dalliance.  This blade, Keen Desire, has a chance to trigger a Bloodlust berserker fit, in a Succubus with that power.  For others, it just has a fairly strong health drain enchant.
• Added a keyword to Angrim's belt to prevent other mods from removing it too easily.
• Recompiled almost everything with latest SexLab.

Probably a few other fixes I've long since forgotten too.  I seem to recall that Angrim no longer bribes guards to falsely arrest you (so the tie-in to Prison Overhaul is no longer used).

 

Removing Hungry Ghost curse:

 

• Need the Gauldur amulet in your inventory (not necessarily worn).
• Need the Drink Soul spell, to sacrifice someone to restore your vitality for good.

 

 

 

 

[merryMalfunctioning]

Nice! Excited to try out the changes!

[BerserkerXX]

With the newest version, and everything else up to date - I get a CTD with "pure virtual function call" after casting ensnare and then asking angrim for more teaching.

 

He says, no not right now "but since you're here ..." then it teleports me to center of room and then crashes. I've tried 5 times now and it's always the same. 

 

The papyrus log for this time period is always empty. It looks like recent logtext is not written to disk on a proper crash.

[merryMalfunctioning]

With the newest version, and everything else up to date - I get a CTD with "pure virtual function call" after casting ensnare and then asking angrim for more teaching.

 

He says, no not right now "but since you're here ..." then it teleports me to center of room and then crashes. I've tried 5 times now and it's always the same. 

 

The papyrus log for this time period is always empty. It looks like recent logtext is not written to disk on a proper crash.

 

Have you tried reinstalling the VCRedist_x86 drivers from the Skyrim directory?

[stobor]

@BerserkerXX:  In other words, you're crashing on the setup for an animation.  That's not something that the mod itself can affect (there's no C++ code in it), and that animation is no different from all the other ones you must've gotten through to reach that point.  And no, a C++ crash doesn't leave any obvious trace in the Papyrus log.

 

In addition to checking the VCRedist_x86 drivers as markdf suggested, I would recommend at least trying the workaround I came across a few posts back: disabling race-specific animation adjustments temporarily.

[stobor]

By the way, I should mention that upgrading the mod while the character is already a ghost can cause problems (e.g. a crash when the cure for Hungry Ghost is applied).  I was able to work around this in my development save by removing and re-applying the 'Ghostly State' ability from the console (removespell / addspell ), but in general I would recommend using the new version on a new play-through.

[worik]

New update is up.  Contents:

 

2.10: Small expansion, various fixes, general house-cleaning:

• [..]
• Recompiled almost everything with latest SexLab.

[..]

 

I am still using SL v1.59c ... would this be a problem?

Has anybody tried this combination already?

 

Yes, yes, I know... I am too lazy to update, but I don't want to switch in the middle of my current characters..

[Elgate]

i'm quite in the same case as worik, I'm using an obsolete version of sexlab (1.60 Hotfix2) and I'd like to know if it is what may be causing me some trouble. i just run an errand for angrim and now

 

when I speak to angrim, he tells me I shouldn't be so trustful and offer me to sanguine emissary.
that emissary rapes me and when he says "let's open the gate" (or something among those lines), it crashes.
Also, How can I fuck angrim with the ensnare spell at that point? Angrim never want to fuck, he just tells me to wait befor I can train more.

 

 

another question too, will this break the game if I use the ensnare on angrim using a dialogue from another mod? (like sollicitation from DCL)

 

Keep up the good works, your mod is awesome ;-)

[stobor]

@worik: Should still work with SexLab 1.59c, no code changes were required.  And I certainly wouldn't advise upgrading in mid-game, I think your caution is justified.

 

@Elgate: Same for SL v1.60 hotfix2.  As for any crashes, see earlier posts on this same page for a workaround to try.  If that works for you, then that's a useful data point.  If it doesn't, that's also good to know - though I don't have any other ideas for debugging a crash I don't get.

 

Regarding Ensnare:

 

I don't remember the implementation details in that area well, so my best advice regarding scenes started through other mods is try it and find out.  But keep an earlier save, in case it goes pear-shaped.

 

As far as this mod's own dialogue is concerned, Angrim will only offer sex at the end (rather than calling in the Emissary) if satiation is fairly high (I don't recall the exact threshold).  Basically, you're in a race with Angrim, to see which one will turn on the other first, and the safest way to turn him into your thrall is to cut your training short before the final spell.

 

 

[stobor]

Courtesy of CGi, there is multi-language localized version of the newest ESP, with an actual German translation, on the download link.  This needs to be installed on top of the main mod (which still supplies things like face textures and the rest of the stuff in the BSA).

[worik]

@worik: Should still work with SexLab 1.59c, no code changes were required.  And I certainly wouldn't advise upgrading in mid-game, I think your caution is justified.

[..]

 

Thank you

[Elgate]

@Stobor

Thank you for the answer, I went back to angrim, without my belt (waiting for your answer, I pickpocketed the key) and now, when I went back, he took me, and I had my ensnare spell. Now, he is my loyal minion. But he keeps putting that belt on me. How do I stop him from doing that? I think I just learned the last spell, shadowdance, if I recall. Which mean that I could not test with the dremora either. (his satiation is around 72, so I guess it's high enoug )

[stobor]

The satiation score needs to be low, to get the Dremora ending.  Angrim shouldn't still be giving you the belt, if he's enthralled; I'll have to check that dialogue logic.  What stage is AngrimApprenticeQuest at?  Should be 100, as I recall.

[Elgate]

quest stage 60

satiation 38

he is my thrall (I have the dialoge of me being his mistress.)

[darkevilhum]

Need some help, cannot for the life of me find the 'ancient tome' for the 'errand for angrim' quest in cronvangr.

 

Edit: No problem, using movetoqt put me into a different? quest specific instance of the dungeon with a working quest marker.

[stobor]

Nope, there's no quest-specific instance of Cronvangr.  But the vampire section is behind a secret door, and many people overlook it.

[Nazzzgul666]

I think i'm kind of lost, no idea if it's a bug, a misleading dialogue, if i'm just blind and dumb, or combinations of that.

Tried different things, first i just made some Dibella quests (not up to agent of Dibella, and i have sisterhood of Dibella as well, problem?), then i met Sanguine (Angrim didn't send me there and i didn't get a spoon, problem?) and talked to Angrim, made his quests.

1. After the first visit of the Emissionary, is there still some content? If yes, what do i have to do to see it? Just wait?

 

2. Reloaded older game and started to read the books, but only at two of them i get a quest

2a. Dalliance, i found a destroyed book but Angrim keeps teling me that i'm wasted, the quest doesn't finish and i don't have a questmarker anymore.  What am i supposed to do to see more content?

 

2b. The succubus part. Visited 'Haelmars Schande' (german), and got the Soul drinker. Still wasted for Angrim. After doing Falions task, Angrim has no dialogues at all, same question.

 

3. I've found some other books at Angrims place, but none of them started another quest. Are there other quests and how can i get them?

 

4. Are there more vanilla quests i should do to get more quests, which are they, and should i do them soon or will Angrim give me a hint like for the Dibella part?