Devious Devices - Integration 4.3a (2019-09-10)

[Findout]

I don't know what thread to post this in.  Why do followers not equip armbinders correctly, mods responsable EDIT for equiping devices: (dcloot & dhelpless).  Their hands are gone and their arms are hanging out like a vanilla npc.  My followers are mods.  I always thought it was a vanilla npc thing, till now.   I'm not ready for the answer.  I hope it's a simple soultion. Is there at lest a direction to look for a fix for this?  If there is reading to do I'll do it. 

2nd EDIT:  Ok so with a little luck,  I found that re-equipping the armbinders they work like a charm.  If there is info on this subject I'd still like to read it.

[Min]

ich bin stinksauer. richtig sauer. es funktioniert doch schon wieder nichts in diesem mod.  nicht mal mehr die struggle Animationen laufen durch, hören nach einer halben sekunde auf. lächerlich wie das aussieht.- dann die gemischten rot weiss schwarzen teile. komplett kann man über das aussehen von weiss und rot vielleicht diskutieren, einzeln vermischt aber ganz bestimmt nicht. völliger mist ist das.

und nun kommt mir nicht wieder mit ladeorder fnis und so einen noobkrams. die Animationen laufen nicht von Integration selber.

 

von den pierced nipüples istt nichts zu sehen, aber sie machen die bbp bodyslide2 brüste kaputt, es ist nicht zu fassen.

 

so ist das alles wie immer unbrauchbar. hinzu kommt dann noch der frust von SD, der komplett versagt. man sollte aufhören mit diesem krams, endgültig. ihr kriegts da doch nichts ordentlichen zum laufen.

 

Sie sind ein verdammter Schwachkopf. Bitte stoppen Entsendung in meinen Thread.

 

The problems you're describing (Animations being interrupted after half a second) is being caused by another mod, as you were informed.

 

Visual item-matching concerns (Regarding the Red and White items) are the realm of Expansion, which I am not the developer of.

 

The piercings are made for two distinct body types (As are all of the assets). If you would like them to fit your custom body type, then feel free to request that someone please port it to your body type (Instead of frothing at the mouth, and posting this idiotic drivel).

 

And above all else, you ignored the bold red text in both the opening post (And further up on this page) informing all users to post logs if they want help.

 

Please quit bothering me with your idiotic drivel. Congratulations on being the first user to earn a place on my ignore list!

 

 

Edited August 27, 2014 by Min

[Min]

my character has the chastity bra penalty debuffs despite not having one equipped, is there a way to fix this?

You still have the bra equipped if you're receiving the debuffs (It's an enchantment on the device: Nothing fancy there). Read the FAQ if you've unequipped the device, yet it is still visually on your character.

[Min]

I don't know what thread to post this in.  Why do followers not equip armbinders correctly, mods responsable EDIT for equiping devices: (dcloot & dhelpless).  Their hands are gone and their arms are hanging out like a vanilla npc.  My followers are mods.  I always thought it was a vanilla npc thing, till now.   I'm not ready for the answer.  I hope it's a simple soultion. Is there at lest a direction to look for a fix for this?  If there is reading to do I'll do it. 

2nd EDIT:  Ok so with a little luck,  I found that re-equipping the armbinders they work like a charm.  If there is info on this subject I'd still like to read it.

Set the "Number of Slotted NPC's" option in the MCM to a non-zero value (This is disabled by default to minimize any sort of performance impact).

[Min]

Here's a fun new bug..

 

this was taken from 2.8.2 Git. (which shouldn't be any different from release)

 

 

sorry about the quality, they are taken from my PSVita, not the best resolution)

 

Update: this is the non-struggle one

Interesting; I'll take a look in to this. Thanks for the report.

[wren888]

Hi, Min. This is a great mod, as evidenced by all the subsequent mods based on it.

 

From reading posts here, in DD Assets, and other related mods, I believe this is the proper place to post my difficulty. If not, I apologize and ask you to please point me in the right direction.

 

I've begun having a problem since the last update of DD Assets, 2.8.2,  and the last two updates of DD Integration, 2.8.1 and 2.8.2. The only Devious items that show up on my character are the face items, i.e., gag and blindfold, and the plugs. The chastity belt, bra, the harness, shoes, and armbinder register in the inventory normally, and as equipped, but are invisible on my character. With regard to the armbinder, my character's arms are correctly behind her back, but her hands and wrists are invisible, as one would expect in this situation. With regard to equipped shoes, my character's feet and ankles are invisble along with the shoes. Although the DD Assets collar is also invisible, the custom Captured Dreams collar appears. However, the custom Captured Dreams chastity belt is invisible. Trying to remove any of the visible or invisible devices yields the correct responses (how do you want to take it off? You try and can't, etc).

 

When I updated only Integration from 2.8.0 to 2.8.1 or 2.8.2, not Assets from 2.8.0 to 2.8.2, everything appeared correctly on my character, just as was the case before with 2.8.0 of both Assets and Integration. The invisibility problem only occurs with Assets 2.8.2. Consequently, it seems to me something is going wrong in the communication between the new DD Assets mod and all versions of the DD Integration mods. I disabled the device hider feature by setting it to "none," so that's not the problem.

 

I tried earlier saves, then a new game, with the same results. I also re-downloaded the new DD Assets, DD Integration, and DD Expansion mods. No change. I reinstalled FNIS and most of the Sexlab mods. No help. As I use HDT and havok, I tried various recommended skeletons, though I doubted that would have an effect. It didn't.

 

The changelogs on the new updates for DD Integration sound inteteresting, so I look forward to getting this problem resolved. I hope you can help me.

 

I've been trying for a while now to upload my papyrus log I got from starting a new game, but I can't figure out how to.

 

Thank you.

 

Edit: Okay, got it. Below is the papyrus file of the start of a new game through the point where I asked Skyrim Bound to equip my character with devious devices. My load order follows.

 

 

load order from Wyre Bash.doc

[Mord Sif]

For uploading your papyrus log and load order, your best bet would be to zip them up using something like 7Zip or Winrar and attach the archives to your post.

[Findout]

 

I don't know what thread to post this in.  Why do followers not equip armbinders correctly, mods responsable EDIT for equiping devices: (dcloot & dhelpless).  Their hands are gone and their arms are hanging out like a vanilla npc.  My followers are mods.  I always thought it was a vanilla npc thing, till now.   I'm not ready for the answer.  I hope it's a simple soultion. Is there at lest a direction to look for a fix for this?  If there is reading to do I'll do it. 

2nd EDIT:  Ok so with a little luck,  I found that re-equipping the armbinders they work like a charm.  If there is info on this subject I'd still like to read it.

Set the "Number of Slotted NPC's" option in the MCM to a non-zero value (This is disabled by default to minimize any sort of performance impact).

 

That's a wonderful solution.  I've seen that setting in the mcm, I just started using followers in my games.  The new red armbinders really look amazing on the followers in the moon light.  Outstanding thank you Min!

[magicrealm]

1. red white and black devices mixed at the character in every mod that puts devices on the character

 

2. armbinder counts as worn for dialogues and mods like deviosly helpless but no armbinder is worn

 

3.  horny, struggle, etc animations stops after half a second, character no keyboard, after some seconds again half a second animation

 

4. pierced nipples invisible. instead breats get small size without bbp

 

5. locking harness and custom harness are invisible. the new White and red harness are visible

[Srende]

There are theme selection options for the items that get equipped onto you in Helpless and Cursed loot currently so you can have matching items.

[Zederia]

 

Here's a fun new bug..

 

this was taken from 2.8.2 Git. (which shouldn't be any different from release)

 

 

sorry about the quality, they are taken from my PSVita, not the best resolution)

 

Update: this is the non-struggle one

Interesting; I'll take a look in to this. Thanks for the report.

 

 

one more I found involves beast races (no not clipping) I had a gag on, could "detach it" it did not trigger any "unlock request" but it kept the gag debuff on, and there was no way to remove it (and i still can't so I have had to pause playing that character at the moment)

 

"2. armbinder counts as worn for dialogues and mods like deviosly helpless but no armbinder is worn"

 

if you hit TAB does it trigger the menu, or the struggle interface?

[Veladarius]

 

 

Here's a fun new bug..

 

this was taken from 2.8.2 Git. (which shouldn't be any different from release)

 

 

sorry about the quality, they are taken from my PSVita, not the best resolution)

 

Update: this is the non-struggle one

Interesting; I'll take a look in to this. Thanks for the report.

 

 

one more I found involves beast races (no not clipping) I had a gag on, could "detach it" it did not trigger any "unlock request" but it kept the gag debuff on, and there was no way to remove it (and i still can't so I have had to pause playing that character at the moment)

 

"2. armbinder counts as worn for dialogues and mods like deviosly helpless but no armbinder is worn"

 

if you hit TAB does it trigger the menu, or the struggle interface?

 

 

It sounds like the items are not working properly. There are some instructions on the main page for dealing with broken items.

[Zederia]

 

 

 

It sounds like the items are not working properly. There are some instructions on the main page for dealing with broken items.

 

 

Was that aimed at me?

[Veladarius]

 

 

 

 

It sounds like the items are not working properly. There are some instructions on the main page for dealing with broken items.

 

 

Was that aimed at me?

 

 

Yes. If you can remove items without getting the menu to remove it then the item is not working, same for armbinders if you don't get the struggle menu.

[Zederia]

 

 

 

 

 

It sounds like the items are not working properly. There are some instructions on the main page for dealing with broken items.

 

 

Was that aimed at me?

 

 

Yes. If you can remove items without getting the menu to remove it then the item is not working, same for armbinders if you don't get the struggle menu.

 

 

The item does not remove. it simple "unequips" and removes the animation. all other features are active

[Veladarius]

 

 

 

 

 

 

It sounds like the items are not working properly. There are some instructions on the main page for dealing with broken items.

 

 

Was that aimed at me?

 

 

Yes. If you can remove items without getting the menu to remove it then the item is not working, same for armbinders if you don't get the struggle menu.

 

 

The item does not remove. it simple "unequips" and removes the animation. all other features are active

 

 

If the item in the inventory unequips but the item is still visible on the character then the items are broken, the inventory item no longer recognizes the part that shows on the player. Equipping it again should trigger the scripts to fix it.

[magicrealm]

see 5 above : custom harness and locking harness are invisible,  even the harness in skyrim bound is invisible.

 

[Zederia]

 

 

If the item in the inventory unequips but the item is still visible on the character then the items are broken, the inventory item no longer recognizes the part that shows on the player. Equipping it again should trigger the scripts to fix it.

 

Unequiped, left the inventory, moved a bit, opened inventory, equipped again, left inventory retruned to inventory, unequiped. No option, no script. In fact I cleaned out the scripts and it STILL didn't work

[Min]

 

 

Here's a fun new bug..

 

this was taken from 2.8.2 Git. (which shouldn't be any different from release)

 

 

sorry about the quality, they are taken from my PSVita, not the best resolution)

 

Update: this is the non-struggle one

Interesting; I'll take a look in to this. Thanks for the report.

 

 

one more I found involves beast races (no not clipping) I had a gag on, could "detach it" it did not trigger any "unlock request" but it kept the gag debuff on, and there was no way to remove it (and i still can't so I have had to pause playing that character at the moment)

That would be a desync: See the FAQ in the opening post for what causes this, how to avoid it in the future, and how to fix it. (I'd suggest rolling back to a save prior to you "cleaning out the scripts", though!).

[Zederia]

 

 

one more I found involves beast races (no not clipping) I had a gag on, could "detach it" it did not trigger any "unlock request" but it kept the gag debuff on, and there was no way to remove it (and i still can't so I have had to pause playing that character at the moment)

That would be a desync: See the FAQ in the opening post for what causes this, how to avoid it in the future, and how to fix it. (I'd suggest rolling back to a save prior to you "cleaning out the scripts", though!).

 

 

It happened the moment I got it though, before the binder. cause I got a binder shortly after, got the binder off, but not the gag

 

(to clarify, I mean the struggle one)

[Min]

Hi, Min. This is a great mod, as evidenced by all the subsequent mods based on it.

 

From reading posts here, in DD Assets, and other related mods, I believe this is the proper place to post my difficulty. If not, I apologize and ask you to please point me in the right direction.

 

I've begun having a problem since the last update of DD Assets, 2.8.2,  and the last two updates of DD Integration, 2.8.1 and 2.8.2. The only Devious items that show up on my character are the face items, i.e., gag and blindfold, and the plugs. The chastity belt, bra, the harness, shoes, and armbinder register in the inventory normally, and as equipped, but are invisible on my character. With regard to the armbinder, my character's arms are correctly behind her back, but her hands and wrists are invisible, as one would expect in this situation. With regard to equipped shoes, my character's feet and ankles are invisble along with the shoes. Although the DD Assets collar is also invisible, the custom Captured Dreams collar appears. However, the custom Captured Dreams chastity belt is invisible. Trying to remove any of the visible or invisible devices yields the correct responses (how do you want to take it off? You try and can't, etc).

 

When I updated only Integration from 2.8.0 to 2.8.1 or 2.8.2, not Assets from 2.8.0 to 2.8.2, everything appeared correctly on my character, just as was the case before with 2.8.0 of both Assets and Integration. The invisibility problem only occurs with Assets 2.8.2. Consequently, it seems to me something is going wrong in the communication between the new DD Assets mod and all versions of the DD Integration mods. I disabled the device hider feature by setting it to "none," so that's not the problem.

 

I tried earlier saves, then a new game, with the same results. I also re-downloaded the new DD Assets, DD Integration, and DD Expansion mods. No change. I reinstalled FNIS and most of the Sexlab mods. No help. As I use HDT and havok, I tried various recommended skeletons, though I doubted that would have an effect. It didn't.

 

The changelogs on the new updates for DD Integration sound inteteresting, so I look forward to getting this problem resolved. I hope you can help me.

 

I've been trying for a while now to upload my papyrus log I got from starting a new game, but I can't figure out how to.

 

Thank you.

 

Edit: Okay, got it. Below is the papyrus file of the start of a new game through the point where I asked Skyrim Bound to equip my character with devious devices. My load order follows.

 

Two things in this log:

Firstly, you didn't save/reload upon starting your game (Thus, Integration hasn't finished initializing. Integration delays the majority of it's initialization until a reload, to avoid an initialization-failure bug which used to plague some users). As such, this log doesn't provide any useful information for troubleshooting.

 

Secondly, you stack dumped twice.

 

The only thing that I can think of off the top of my head that would cause your items-not-rendering issues, would be that the assets installer didn't correctly copy your meshes: Try copying them by hand, and see if that solves the issue. Oh, and be sure that you're not playing a male character.

[DonQuiWho]

@Min

 

Some of us are rather elderly,   so please be patient with me if this has been asked before.

 

Does the latest version of Integration, which states that...

 

'Zenetx's Gags Overhaul has been adopted as the official behavior for gags, and has been merged in to Integration (Thanks Zenetx!).'

 

....result in any conflict at all with DD.Restrained, in respect of either dialogue options or functionality?

 

I have had a good look at both threads, and your FAQ, but I just can't see anything specifically relevant to this query on either, or, if it does exist, I have just plain missed it

 

TIA

 

 

[Senick]

 

my character has the chastity bra penalty debuffs despite not having one equipped, is there a way to fix this?

You still have the bra equipped if you're receiving the debuffs (It's an enchantment on the device: Nothing fancy there). Read the FAQ if you've unequipped the device, yet it is still visually on your character.

 

 

I definitely don't, in fact I DID and had 2 copies of each entry for the debuff, one that was labeled "padded chastity bra" and another that said "chastity bra." I took off the padded chastity bra and the chastity bra one remained, for now I'll just modify the affected skills, it's also not visually on my character at all.

[terrorofmorrowind]

I don't know if i'm the only one with this issue but i'm stuck in the first quest right after urag put the belt on me. He is just oggling there and doesn't respond. I tried to disable/enable him but then i don't get the dialogues option yet the pointer keeps pointing at him. Can somebody tell what stage this is so that i can use this in the console or does someone have a solution for it?

 

edit: from looking at the post above me it appears that being a male could be one of the issues although i highly doubt it.

[Veladarius]

I don't know if i'm the only one with this issue but i'm stuck in the first quest right after urag put the belt on me. He is just oggling there and doesn't respond. I tried to disable/enable him but then i don't get the dialogues option yet the pointer keeps pointing at him. Can somebody tell what stage this is so that i can use this in the console or does someone have a solution for it?

 

edit: from looking at the post above me it appears that being a male could be one of the issues although i highly doubt it.

 

If you don't see any dialogue once the scene starts make sure you have Fus Ro D'oh installed and it is working correctly. Pretty much any mod with unvoiced dialogue requires this to work properly.