Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[GenPatton]

17 hours ago, foreveraloneguy said:

 

Gotta take 'em through the quests to see the "extra".

I'm assuming you're referring to whatever individual quest connected to that NPC?

 

"I never thought I'd find a set of fanbois more annoying than the console guys, but I did: MO fanatics."

LOLOLOLOL

[jib_buttkiss]

14 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

My char has no corruption effect listed. Will it only show up when the curse already started?

Edit: The effect showed up after reading the rules once but not after having sex with a bimbo.

 

Yeah, the effect won't appear in your active effects. until you reach 20+ corruption. The code for corruption from bimbos is bugged in the current version, by the way. Any bimbos created by the curse spread corruption correctly, but existing ones in the world won't.

 

10 hours ago, DrSeptimus said:

Would future update make bimbo follower randomly have sex with other npc in the future?

 

It's something I'm looking into... No promises at all, but it's on my radar!

 

9 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Like someone else mentioned, I prefer my HDT hair over the supplied Bimbo hairstyles so I just changed the color to as close as I could get to match.  But I am curious, how difficult is it to replace one/some of the supplied hairstyle(s) with HDT one(s)?  Like can I just change some filenames and drop them in place, or would I have to muck around in a .nif editor or something?  Don't even know if thats the right filetype for hair.

 

Hmm. Yeah, just changing the .nifs' filenames and dropping them in would work to change the model, but I don't know enough about HDT to know if the HDT physics would come over with the nif.

 

5 hours ago, Eskella said:

 

The corruption effect will only show up after you exceed a certain threshold. Putting this and info about corruption gain/loss behind a spoiler just because, well, it is a spoiler.

 

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• Aggressive sex where you are the victim adds two (2) points of corruption per instance.
  • That seems like it may not be a lot, but a lot of loss/slave/etc. mods love to queue up back-to-back scenes, so it can help avoid these basically becoming an instant bimbo spiral. I had one long Public Whore scene add, like, 20 points on its own despite this low level.
• Sex with a bimbo actor adds six (6) points of corruption, each time.
• NPCs get similar increases from these events, I believe, though I haven't poked into NPC corruption too much to do the math.
• Reading the 'good girl rules' provides adds fifteen (15) points of corruption, with a cooldown, and gives you a buff.
  • I believe having the buff active from the 'good girl rules' book increases the corruption from sex slightly, but I didn't do the math again lol.
• I think some of the quest events, like the hypno quest, may also add some depending on choices? Or that may have just been from regular SexLab.
• The cures have a chance to add corruption instead of removing it.
  • The alchemy cure removes twenty (20) corruption, but has a chance to add ten (10) corruption instead.
  • The temple cure removes thirteen (13) corruption, but has a chance to add twenty (20) corruption instead.
• The 'corruption stage' breakpoints (and thus the Bimbo Corruption magic effects) happen at 20, 40, 60, 80, and 100 corruption.
  • At 100 corruption, the 'curse' kicks in and you are stuck.
  • Because of this, it's super careful to make sure you don't get above 80 corruption if you are trying to 'avoid' the curse - because you could flip that 20 point backfire and be screwed, even if it is a low chance.

 

Probably some other stuff I am forgetting but that's what I've found out so far through some liberal checking of the corruption level after things happen. I presume a lot of this is buried in the script source as well but I really didn't want to dig through to find all the files, esp. where a lot of them are little script fragment files that aren't named as cleanly as others.

 

This is 99% correct!

-NPCs do gain more from aggressive sex (+6 points instead, IIRC), to make up for the fact that they can't gain any from quests.

-Most quests add some amount. You're right about the hypno dialogue event that does, and other quests can give more or less depending on your decisions (for example, the sluttier you behave during Lyvelia's quest the more you'll get, and your decision at the end can give you a large amount).

 

For YPS users, there's a configurable amount of corruption gain and % chance for applying makeup and gaining fashion addiction on YPS's end.

 

 

In the next version, any sex with Dremora will add some, and court mages will be another option for reducing corruption (unless they get the spell wrong... Oops!)

 

1 hour ago, GenPatton said:

I'm assuming you're referring to whatever individual quest connected to that NPC?

 

Yeah, some of the NPCs have quests and some are just the way they are. Here's a list of which NPCs have morphs, no morphs, or quest-related morphs to them (spoilers, if you care):

 

Spoiler

Jill, Anaita and Telariel have no morphs at all.

 

Buttslut, Roni and Cindil always have BodyGen morphs, and they just exist in the world.

 

Lyvelia and Tarria have set BodyGen morphs but are part of Lyvelia's questline (Tarria doesn't spawn until a certain point in the quest, and Lyvelia changes throughout it- she's actually 4 different NPCs!)

 

Erina's morphs use the ones from your Bimbo curse settings in the MCM, and progress throughout her questline.

 

[KevinDaldry]

Any update news for this fantastic mod? No bother, I m just looking forward to it

[foreveraloneguy]

7 hours ago, GenPatton said:

I'm assuming you're referring to whatever individual quest connected to that NPC?

Yup, they have quests which trigger certain... events, shall we say.

[xyzxyz]

Is there an option that a NPC under the hypno starts sex on her own with nearby NPCs?

[xyzxyz]

On 5/20/2023 at 4:03 PM, jib_buttkiss said:

CC_NPCBimboCorruptionLevel faction

How do I see those numbers? What command do I need?

[xAmaranthia]

On 5/19/2023 at 6:47 PM, jib_buttkiss said:

 

 

2. That's... new. It's weird that it would only happen for you. Do you have any other mods that might affect that sort of thing?

3. The outfits do have bodyslide data? (unless you're talking about something other than just bodyslide conversions? It's possible, I really know basically nothing about bodyslide.)

 

The clothes are a bit jank sometimes because I don't really know my way around bodyslide, nifskope, and all that; I've basically just tried to copy how other mods handle outfit data. That's the main reason for the optional "No Outfits" patch- because I'm certain that there will be random problems with the outfits that I didn't anticipate and don't understand.

 

 

I can't really think of any mods that would cause alter the behavior of the armor / meshes. Both outfits are from your mod, and they (v1.5.2, followed by the SE Patch) are at the bottom of the load order. I'll fiddle around with tools to see if I can fix it with what I have.

 

As for the bodyslide thing, they clearly aren't the default CBBE proportions, but the outfits don't appear in the bodyslide tool (where I can modify their slider values / make them fit the existing proportions for characters / add or toggle zaps). See screenshot - there are 3 high heels included in the mod, but only 1 appears in bodyslide, as an example.

 

 

On 5/20/2023 at 6:18 AM, Wut1969 said:

Are you using a UNP--ish body?

 

 

I am using CBBE 3BA HDT-SMP.

Edited May 22, 2023 by xAmaranthia
Accidentally submitted comment early >.<

[xAmaranthia]

Okay, I did a little bit more digging, and there are some strange shenanigans going on, and without knowing how the "No Outfits" patch works, I don't think I can dig any further.

 

So first, about the bodyslide stuff - there are specifically 3 outfits that are included in the mod but lack BodySlide data - heels_0, heels_1, and bimbo_dress (the last of which seems untextured, if loading into Outfit Studio says anything).

 

Finally, it seems that my problems are, kind of ironically, caused by the No Outfits patch - it seems Brelyna (bless her heart) was still given the Pink Microskirt to wear, but the No Outfits patch seems to change what the Pink Microskirt's mesh / textures are... but I have no idea where it gets them from, so I don't know what outfit I should be looking at for the problem.

 

The culprit seems to be wherever the No Outfits patch gets the mesh / textures for the Pink Microskirt. If bimbos are not meant to be given new outfits at all with the No Outfits patch (which seems pretty reasonable to me), then this seems to be a problem that can simply be sidestepped entirely, as the bug would be the fact that the No Outfits patch did not stop BOS from giving bimbos new outfits in the first place.

 

As for me, I'll just disable the No Outfits patch.

[Tildetyper]

I managed to see the content, though it was semi-on-fire by the end.   I had a lot of missing textures, and things that I'm not sure where they came from. (SE Version) But all and all pretty neat - and a lot of quests to be had and things to do. 

 

Thanks for all the work!

[jib_buttkiss]

On 5/21/2023 at 10:28 PM, KevinDaldry said:

Any update news for this fantastic mod? No bother, I m just looking forward to it

 

Previous page.

 

On 5/22/2023 at 5:27 AM, xyzxyz said:

Is there an option that a NPC under the hypno starts sex on her own with nearby NPCs?

 

How do I see those numbers? What command do I need?

 

-No, but if I get it working for bimbos I'll add a hypno command for it too.

-Turns out there's no vanilla way to check an NPCs faction rank, but there's a lot of utility mods that can- I use Scent of Sex (which could also be used to set up rules for bimbo/hypnotised NPC to start sex on their own!)This is what a 10 seconds google search without testing gets for you, ugh.

See NicoleDragoness's comment below.

 

13 hours ago, xAmaranthia said:

Okay, I did a little bit more digging, and there are some strange shenanigans going on, and without knowing how the "No Outfits" patch works, I don't think I can dig any further.

 

So first, about the bodyslide stuff - there are specifically 3 outfits that are included in the mod but lack BodySlide data - heels_0, heels_1, and bimbo_dress (the last of which seems untextured, if loading into Outfit Studio says anything).

 

Finally, it seems that my problems are, kind of ironically, caused by the No Outfits patch - it seems Brelyna (bless her heart) was still given the Pink Microskirt to wear, but the No Outfits patch seems to change what the Pink Microskirt's mesh / textures are... but I have no idea where it gets them from, so I don't know what outfit I should be looking at for the problem.

 

The culprit seems to be wherever the No Outfits patch gets the mesh / textures for the Pink Microskirt. If bimbos are not meant to be given new outfits at all with the No Outfits patch (which seems pretty reasonable to me), then this seems to be a problem that can simply be sidestepped entirely, as the bug would be the fact that the No Outfits patch did not stop BOS from giving bimbos new outfits in the first place.

 

As for me, I'll just disable the No Outfits patch.

 

For the No Outfits patch: the way armours work in the creation kit is that you define an ArmorAddon model with the .nif, and then allocate the actual Armor piece that ArmorAddon as part of it's data (so you have weight, value, armorAddon model, etc.). The No Outfits patch just changes that parameter for the bimbo outfits to a vanilla game ArmorAddon. For example, the Mesh Minidress gets changed from using BoS's CC_AA_BimboDress to base Skyrim's WenchOutfitAA.

 

This saves me trying to dig the outfit-changing code out from the guts of the mod- the bimbos still get new clothes that are tagged correctly, but these clothes display as whatever replacer you have for the vanilla ones.

 

The pink skirt also gets replaced with the WenchOutfitAA- do you have any problems with the real Tavern Clothes?

 

 

Also, if you're using a 3Ba body, you'll want probably Efgad's  conversion from here.

 

 

By the way, I finally got around to actually checking and yep, you were right about the Mesh Dress- it's calves flag totally isn't set.

 

12 hours ago, Tildetyper said:

I managed to see the content, though it was semi-on-fire by the end.   I had a lot of missing textures, and things that I'm not sure where they came from. (SE Version) But all and all pretty neat - and a lot of quests to be had and things to do. 

 

Thanks for all the work!

 

Glad you're enjoying it, but, uh... how on fire? What textures were missing? There aren't really that many textures to go missing in here- just the jewellery, clothes and hairs. Which ones weren't showing up?

 

What kind of things were showing up that you weren't sure of? Maybe I can make them more obvious in future.

Edited May 23, 2023 by jib_buttkiss

[Tildetyper]

21 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Previous page.

 

 

-No, but if I get it working for bimbos I'll add a hypno command for it too.

-Turns out there's no vanilla way to check an NPCs faction rank, but there's a lot of utility mods that can- I use Scent of Sex (which could also be used to set up rules for bimbo/hypnotised NPC to start sex on their own!)

 

 

For the No Outfits patch: the way armours work in the creation kit is that you define an ArmorAddon model with the .nif, and then allocate the actual Armor piece that ArmorAddon as part of it's data (so you have weight, value, armorAddon model, etc.). The No Outfits patch just changes that parameter for the bimbo outfits to a vanilla game ArmorAddon. For example, the Mesh Minidress gets changed from using BoS's CC_AA_BimboDress to base Skyrim's WenchOutfitAA.

 

This saves me trying to dig the outfit-changing code out from the guts of the mod- the bimbos still get new clothes that are tagged correctly, but these clothes display as whatever replacer you have for the vanilla ones.

 

The pink skirt also gets replaced with the WenchOutfitAA- do you have any problems with the real Tavern Clothes?

 

 

Also, if you're using a 3Ba body, you'll want probably Efgad's  conversion from here.

 

 

By the way, I finally got around to actually checking and yep, you were right about the Mesh Dress- it's calves flag totally isn't set.

 

 

Glad you're enjoying it, but, uh... how on fire? What textures were missing? There aren't really that many textures to go missing in here- just the jewellery, clothes and hairs. Which ones weren't showing up?

 

What kind of things were showing up that you weren't sure of? Maybe I can make them more obvious in future.

 

I didn't really want to get into it, since it might have been me missing stuff - but I'm pretty sure I got all the requirements.  Not sure if it's going to help, but these are the issues. 

 

The hands would disappear when I got nail polish - if I caused it to smear it would be fine (Nail polish never showed up) 

 

When the heels finally showed up (I was like at 200% Bimbo or something) I lost my feet - and then it put on the heels and right away my feet were already too deformed to wear those heels - so I just had stumps until I brought in slave shoes which locked on and fixed the missing feet. 

 

On the quest for the College to get back her item that was stolen there was a traingle around the NPC - which indicates I think a conflict or something? One of those translucent ones. 

 

The piercings caused my breasts to return to what it was originally. 

 

Other things I noticed was one should be careful when playing with the preview of your bimbo body - since a few times it got stuck - and testing it out again caused it to double. 

 

I didn't test it on NPC's since I didn't have the heart to do that to 'em!  It was fun though, and once I realized you could shorten the time that the transitions took - I dropped it down to 1 hour and speed-ran since previously I'd gone and done a number of quests and was a little confused as to why there wasn't progress (My fault!) 

 

I was testing it alongside Notice Me Senpai. 

[xAmaranthia]

I did some more digging, and I found another issue with the White HIgh Heels, and fixing this issue has fixed my missing calves problem (which persisted even after disabling No Outfits, since, as you mentioned, it's pairing the heels with vanilla armours):

 

The White High Heels only have meshes that cover the feet, but the calves are still flagged (see screenshot, taken from the Creation Kit):

 

Fortunately, fixing this is very easy:

 

1. Load up your mod in CK. Or in xEdit. Or in whatever mod-editing/building software you're using.

2. Type in "Heel" to find the White High Heel.

3. Uncheck the Calves tag under BipedObject

4. Hit OK.

5. Save your mod.

 

This fixed the missing calves problem for me.

[Senick]

I really love this mod! Any chance for more player hypnosis events being added? Like some of the ones you can do to NPC's. I'm definitely more interested in stuff being done to the PC overall

Edited May 23, 2023 by Senick

[NicoleDragoness]

11 hours ago, Tildetyper said:

Turns out there's no vanilla way to check an NPCs faction rank

 

There IS a console command for this:

 

"RefID of the NPC".getFactionRank xxxxxxxx 

 

where xxxxxxxx is the ID of the faction. The result (integer) is the rank.

[AlyssaAwoo]

Have you thought about a quest or addition to the College of Winterhold ? Just did the fun little vanilla quest for Brelyna in the college where she turns you into all sorts of things, and thought her turning you into a Bimbo temporarily instead of 'everything turning green' for a while would be delightful.

 

In general I feel the college could be perfect for a quest or NPC, even if only for a ditzy mage where a spell went wrong. Just an idea I had.

[Balgin]

3 hours ago, AkiKay said:

Have you thought about a quest or addition to the College of Winterhold ? Just did the fun little vanilla quest for Brelyna in the college where she turns you into all sorts of things, and thought her turning you into a Bimbo temporarily instead of 'everything turning green' for a while would be delightful.

 

In general I feel the college could be perfect for a quest or NPC, even if only for a ditzy mage where a spell went wrong. Just an idea I had.

You might want to look for a mage called Lyvellia in the college.

This mod put her there.

[ebbluminous]

8 hours ago, Balgin said:

You might want to look for a mage called Lyvellia in the college.

This mod put her there.

[AlyssaAwoo]

15 hours ago, Balgin said:

You might want to look for a mage called Lyvellia in the college.

This mod put her there.

Oh that's from *this* mod ? I thought it was from Troubles of Heroine! Ooopsies! 

[Senick]

Would've loved a "Bad end" of sorts with the curse quest XD, thank you for making such a great mod!

[Wut1969]

On 5/24/2023 at 10:03 PM, Senick said:

Would've loved a "Bad end" of sorts with the curse quest XD, thank you for making such a great mod!

Use hardcore mode in Bimbos and/or use sexlab disparity (to make your pc totally helpless) and add fill-her-up and/or yps (for slower running) to your modlist and your PC will have a bad ending in no time.

She may not die by this mod, but being a Bimbo is an easy way to pine for the fjords.

 

 

[Senick]

11 hours ago, Wut1969 said:

Use hardcore mode in Bimbos and/or use sexlab disparity (to make your pc totally helpless) and add fill-her-up and/or yps (for slower running) to your modlist and your PC will have a bad ending in no time.

She may not die by this mod, but being a Bimbo is an easy way to pine for the fjords.

 

 

I didn't mean something like that, I actually don't like making the game unplayable (or overly frustrating to play, the debuffs in the end are honestly a bit much for permanent play for me XD) more like you do something stupid due to being a dumb bimbo and the cure is only partially (or not at all) effective or insult the guy in the end or something so maybe he keeps bimbofied in some way, dunno just spitballing. Just a way that means you don't/can't get it fully cured. There's just very few mods that give context and/or apply crests like that which is sorely missing imo.

[Tildetyper]

5 hours ago, Senick said:

I didn't mean something like that, I actually don't like making the game unplayable (or overly frustrating to play, the debuffs in the end are honestly a bit much for permanent play for me XD) more like you do something stupid due to being a dumb bimbo and the cure is only partially (or not at all) effective or insult the guy in the end or something so maybe he keeps bimbofied in some way, dunno just spitballing. Just a way that means you don't/can't get it fully cured. There's just very few mods that give context and/or apply crests like that which is sorely missing imo.

When I was playing it, I couldn't help but think of something like "Being a cow" Which builds on the milk framework to create a situation where you are followed more closely down the path of transformation and your potential connection with a specific character - but with Bimboism as the ultimate goal. 

 

I don't know that it would need to make things more darker - like being a cow does to the milk framework -   as the heavy transformation is already the main aspect. 

[jib_buttkiss]

On 5/25/2023 at 5:29 AM, AkiKay said:

Oh that's from *this* mod ? I thought it was from Troubles of Heroine! Ooopsies! 

 

Yeah, go say hi to her! I'm sure nothing could possibly go wrong when you help her with her extremely quick and easy fetch quest! It'll be quick! And easy! Nothing could go wrong!

 

6 hours ago, Senick said:

I didn't mean something like that, I actually don't like making the game unplayable (or overly frustrating to play, the debuffs in the end are honestly a bit much for permanent play for me XD) more like you do something stupid due to being a dumb bimbo and the cure is only partially (or not at all) effective or insult the guy in the end or something so maybe he keeps bimbofied in some way, dunno just spitballing. Just a way that means you don't/can't get it fully cured. There's just very few mods that give context and/or apply crests like that which is sorely missing imo.

 

I can't be sure, but it sounds like you've taking about the Slutmark from Lyvelia's quest. It's separate from the bimbo curse- the Slutmark is pretty debilitating (-90% magicka if I'm remembering right?) and always gets cured at the end of the quest because of that. But it does inflict a lot of bimbo corruption on you- which can trigger the actual bimbo curse. If you make the "wrong" decision at the end of the quest, you get even more corrupted.

 

I think the bimbo curse is probably the kind of "bad end" to that quest that you're after- the player slowly transforms into a dumb giggling slut who lives to fuck. Her mind gets rewritten into a stupid, sex-addicted, whore who loves her new life as a cumdump, and her body changes to match (curves, blonde, unremovable thick makeup). It also comes with more... tolerable... debuffs, so you can still actually play the game when cursed (unless you enable Hardcore debuffs in the MCM).

Edited May 27, 2023 by jib_buttkiss

[Wut1969]

2 hours ago, Tildetyper said:

When I was playing it, I couldn't help but think of something like "Being a cow" Which builds on the milk framework to create a situation where you are followed more closely down the path of transformation and your potential connection with a specific character - but with Bimboism as the ultimate goal. 

 

I don't know that it would need to make things more darker - like being a cow does to the milk framework -   as the heavy transformation is already the main aspect. 

Me neither, but tastes do differ.

 

2 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

I think the bimbo curse is probably the kind of "bad end" to that quest that you're after- the player slowly transforms into a dumb giggling slut who lives to fuck. Her mind gets rewritten into a stupid, sex-addicted, whore who loves her new life as a cumdump, and her body changes to match (curves, blonde, unremovable thick makeup). It also comes with more... tolerable... debuffs, so you can still actually play the game when cursed (unless you enable Hardcore debuffs in the MCM).

For me that is the bad ending too. So much that my PC has avoided transformation so far.

 

Maybe @Senick would already be happy if, after the full transformation, there would be daily reminders of some sort, maybe NPCs making comments on how she smells like cum, or that she is a dirty slut. I wonder if there are already mods like that. Sexlab Survival has them I suppose. And fill-her-up will provide comments on inflated bellies.

 

[SkyAddiction]

On 5/21/2023 at 3:07 AM, jib_buttkiss said:

Hmm. Yeah, just changing the .nifs' filenames and dropping them in would work to change the model, but I don't know enough about HDT to know if the HDT physics would come over with the nif.

 

Hair doesn't really work much different than armor, so you can indeed just copy over the .nif (and textures if necessary).

 

 

 

Now that I've seen everything the mod has to offer, here's a few thoughts:

 

A lot of the fun comes from trying to avoid triggering the curse, but it's by far the least gamified part of the mod. It might be fun to have different corruption reduction methods that are easier to access than the current ones. Flawless amethysts and taproots are surprisingly rare. What if those were high-level, high-success reductions, and there were simpler recipes that had less effect and higher failure chances? e.g.: Alchemists offer three types of potions - 3 slaughterfish scales/1000g for 50/50 success/failure and +5/-5 corruption, 3 sabrecat claws/2000g for 65/35 and +10/-10 corruption, and 3 taproot/3000g for 80/20 and +20/-20 corruption. Do something similar with the priests and planned court wizards and suddenly corruption reduction becomes both more accessible and more risky. That's all CK busywork so I don't know if it interests you, but it might be fun.

 

As for the curse itself, what if it wasn't permanent, but could be reversed and player corruption reset? Maybe if you ask around the college you'll find out that the library has a book on reversing daedric curses? Maybe it involves getting some vampire dust, a crimson nirnroot, a dragon's bone, and a daedra heart for one of the college members? Why? Because of course it's a fetch quest and of course it needs the rarest ingredients to work. Oh, and it leaves you very vulnerable to the curse returning. Like every sex act involving the player character now adds corruption. Obviously the only important parts here are the cure and lingering vulnerability, but I thought that was a reasonable idea for a repeatable cure quest.

 

I don't know how much either of those interest you as you've already built the mod to do exactly what it says it does in the description, but if you're looking for more ideas, there's two.

 

Thanks for making this, by the way - it's a great mod that has a permanent place in my load order. 

 

Edit: I almost forgot. It's been a while since I let my character go full bimbo... The 3BA piercings are outside my character's body, hovering just outside the skin. All three. I use a modified CBBE curvy preset with pretty normal slider settings and I did a quick check of the piercings in Outfit Studio as well as the .nifs. They all look the way they should so I've no idea what's going on there or why they'd displace after using Bodyslide. Also, none of them are picked up in Sexlab's strip item editor, which is even more odd.

 

It's not a big deal since I have others I can substitute, but some people may not. 

Edited May 28, 2023 by SkyAddiction