Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[Red9Millionand9]

Great mod. The writing is really good, it's got a nice comedic tone that IMO works really well for sex mods without going over the top or trying too hard to force a joke at every point.

 

I like the idea of giving bimbos some non-combat ways to get through situations. There's an mod for called Silver Tongue: Speechcraft Abilities (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17958) that does something similar, you could maybe have a look at it for some inspiration. Also maybe using bimbo speech powers could be a way to increase bimbo corruption outside of sex. Like, the more the charcter acts the part of a bimbo the more they get used to it,

[Wut1969]

10 hours ago, corporalquinn2nd said:

And yep it's still in development even in 2023 I actually enjoy this despite the requirements being well script heavy(sexlab related) 

And with bodyslide I realized it's quite broken most outfits will clip inside the body and some parts have no references on them(e.g white bra doesn't have a female body reference so it's just floating in mid air)

In the meantime I'll just use the no outfits patch and replacer the outfit myself

Even in 2023? This mod is very fresh, development started somewhere last year and features get added very quickly.

 

As for the outfits; I don't have any issues (on LE), and I do know somewhere in these threads there is a patch for SE outfits.

 

[_Delta_]

29 minutes ago, Wut1969 said:

Even in 2023? This mod is very fresh, development started somewhere last year and features get added very quickly.

 

As for the outfits; I don't have any issues (on LE), and I do know somewhere in these threads there is a patch for SE outfits.

 

Yes I mean from what I am seeing here so far 

And I'm on SE(without the AE update bc I downgraded) and I have struggled to let the default outfits fit along with the female bodies, probably bc I use cbbe 3ba and not default cbbe

However, I did see someone with the no outfits patch add a custom outfit for the bimbo curse progress which actually isn't bad saves the frustration and lets me get somewhat creative 

And lastly I am also trying to see on the flip side of how males percept thru this mod like if the bimbo curse will interfere with them,which should not,and so far I ran into one problem with it as of now and that is the pain debuff effect applies to the male gender but its at zero and is stuck there 

Might have to upload a screenshot or something to prove it when I have the time 

I'm getting the pain debuff effect even on a male player 

Also tried turning off special active effects like that in the mcm didn't do anything it was still there aka permanent like thr author specified especially for the female gender 

So um yea so far not bad 

 

 

 

[GenPatton]

In my first playthrough with this mod, so I have a newbie question.  I'm running on the AE version of Skyrim, so does the whole "negative sliders" thing still apply?  I've only met one of the bimbos so far, the one in Whiterun, and her body shape was definitely not what I was expecting, so I'm wondering if my settings were the problem.

[_Delta_]

5 minutes ago, GenPatton said:

In my first playthrough with this mod, so I have a newbie question.  I'm running on the AE version of Skyrim, so does the whole "negative sliders" thing still apply?  I've only met one of the bimbos so far, the one in Whiterun, and her body shape was definitely not what I was expecting, so I'm wondering if my settings were the problem.

My guess is if you're AE it shouldn't

Only thing the author mentioned was if you're SE make sure you have all negatives on SE inv 

Plus the bodyslide was different on AE also was mentioned 

Just kinda mess around with it until you figure out it works 

Kinda what I tend to do to find what exactly I need to tweak in the mcm settings of BOS

 

[Wut1969]

5 hours ago, GenPatton said:

In my first playthrough with this mod, so I have a newbie question.  I'm running on the AE version of Skyrim, so does the whole "negative sliders" thing still apply?  I've only met one of the bimbos so far, the one in Whiterun, and her body shape was definitely not what I was expecting, so I'm wondering if my settings were the problem.

Please add a screenshot. 'Not what I was expecting' is a bit vague.

 

[GenPatton]

3 hours ago, Wut1969 said:

Please add a screenshot. 'Not what I was expecting' is a bit vague.

 

I'll have to get back to Whiterun for that.  Although I may have jumped the gun... looking at the images on the main mod page, it shows Anaita with some fairly normal-sized jugs, so I guess she's not as bimbo-fied as some of the others.  I am curious about the fact that she had vanilla hair, unlike the pic of her on the mod page. 

[xyzxyz]

Can any sex trigger the bimbo curse on player or follower?

[Saviorsrd]

18 minutes ago, xyzxyz said:

Can any sex trigger the bimbo curse on player or follower?

 By default, only aggressive sex or sex with bimbos.

[xyzxyz]

58 minutes ago, Saviorsrd said:

 By default, only aggressive sex or sex with bimbos.

Even without sl hormones and does that counts for followers as well?

Edited May 19, 2023 by xyzxyz

[GenPatton]

2 hours ago, GenPatton said:

I'll have to get back to Whiterun for that.  Although I may have jumped the gun... looking at the images on the main mod page, it shows Anaita with some fairly normal-sized jugs, so I guess she's not as bimbo-fied as some of the others.  I am curious about the fact that she had vanilla hair, unlike the pic of her on the mod page. 

Ok, here you go

[GenPatton]

15 hours ago, corporalquinn2nd said:

My guess is if you're AE it shouldn't

Only thing the author mentioned was if you're SE make sure you have all negatives on SE inv 

Plus the bodyslide was different on AE also was mentioned 

Just kinda mess around with it until you figure out it works 

Kinda what I tend to do to find what exactly I need to tweak in the mcm settings of BOS

 

Well, turns out you DO have to make the same sliders negative on AE.  Went into racemenu, switched my PC to female, then did the "test settings on PC" bit, and had to make the marked ones negative to get the proper effect.

[jib_buttkiss]

On 5/17/2023 at 11:38 PM, wHOaMiEH said:

Hey @jib_buttkiss ,any estimation on the new update droping? 

 

Probably a while.

It's just that I keep having real life stuff pop up, and also the mod's not actively broken to rush me into pushing out patches and fixes.

 

It doesn't help that I keep wasting time adding small details to the Lyli/Morella quest that no one's ever going to find or care about! Here's something- for the third prank, when gathering the love potion ingredients for Morella, she will respond differently to each one depending on the order you bring them in. Did I need to do that? No. Will anyone ever really notice? Nope! How long did it take me to get the fucking condition functions to work properly? Four hours.

 

On 5/18/2023 at 4:51 PM, xAmaranthia said:

Since this mod seems to be very actively in development, I've encountered a few bugs that I'd like to document:

 

1. The "White High Heels" sink into the ground, while the other 2 high heels have their Z pos adjust correctly. I looked into their STDA using Outfit Studio, and the correct high heels have their pos data written "0, 0, 8.0" (spaces after commas) while the broken high heels have it written "0,0,9.0" (no spaces after commas). Adding in spaces to that pos data fixed the White High Heels for me. (Using RaceMenu to handle high heel corrections)

 

2. Some of the outfits are missing calves: neither the armor nor the boots have the flags for the calves, which results in there just being... no meshes or textures between the knees and the ankles (example: Pink Microskirt & White High Heels, see screenshot). Since adding in body flags is sizably outside my experience (and if it can't be done in Outfit Studio I'm clean out of luck), I do not know the process for correcting this, though I assume it's probably some xEdit or nifskope adjustment.

 

3. Finally, and I know this one's a lot of work so I don't expect this to be done any time soon, many of the outfits (seems like the ones not named "BOS_") don't have any Bodyslide data.

 

Overall, mod idea is great and I find the outfit swapping great, but there's a bunch of little things that need to get polished out.

 

(Oh and also, I'm playing on SE 1.5.97)

 

 

1. Oh nice, love an easy fix. I'll get that sorted for the next version.

2. That's... new. It's weird that it would only happen for you. Do you have any other mods that might affect that sort of thing?

3. The outfits do have bodyslide data? (unless you're talking about something other than just bodyslide conversions? It's possible, I really know basically nothing about bodyslide.)

 

The clothes are a bit jank sometimes because I don't really know my way around bodyslide, nifskope, and all that; I've basically just tried to copy how other mods handle outfit data. That's the main reason for the optional "No Outfits" patch- because I'm certain that there will be random problems with the outfits that I didn't anticipate and don't understand.

 

On 5/19/2023 at 11:39 AM, Red9Millionand9 said:

Great mod. The writing is really good, it's got a nice comedic tone that IMO works really well for sex mods without going over the top or trying too hard to force a joke at every point.

 

I like the idea of giving bimbos some non-combat ways to get through situations. There's an mod for called Silver Tongue: Speechcraft Abilities (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17958) that does something similar, you could maybe have a look at it for some inspiration. Also maybe using bimbo speech powers could be a way to increase bimbo corruption outside of sex. Like, the more the charcter acts the part of a bimbo the more they get used to it,

 

Glad you're enjoying it! I might take a look at that mod for some ideas, but I will definitely be having it so that using your new bimbo "powers" deepens the curse!

 

16 hours ago, corporalquinn2nd said:

Yes I mean from what I am seeing here so far 

And I'm on SE(without the AE update bc I downgraded) and I have struggled to let the default outfits fit along with the female bodies, probably bc I use cbbe 3ba and not default cbbe

However, I did see someone with the no outfits patch add a custom outfit for the bimbo curse progress which actually isn't bad saves the frustration and lets me get somewhat creative 

And lastly I am also trying to see on the flip side of how males percept thru this mod like if the bimbo curse will interfere with them,which should not,and so far I ran into one problem with it as of now and that is the pain debuff effect applies to the male gender but its at zero and is stuck there 

Might have to upload a screenshot or something to prove it when I have the time 

I'm getting the pain debuff effect even on a male player 

Also tried turning off special active effects like that in the mcm didn't do anything it was still there aka permanent like thr author specified especially for the female gender 

So um yea so far not bad 

 

 

If you want them, there's a 3Ba conversion by Efgad here. I'll bundle it into the mod itself for the next version, but you can get it from there for now.

 

Males should be totally immune to the bimbo curse- they straight up don't gain corruption. What Pain debuff do you mean?

 

16 hours ago, GenPatton said:

In my first playthrough with this mod, so I have a newbie question.  I'm running on the AE version of Skyrim, so does the whole "negative sliders" thing still apply?  I've only met one of the bimbos so far, the one in Whiterun, and her body shape was definitely not what I was expecting, so I'm wondering if my settings were the problem.

5 hours ago, GenPatton said:

I'll have to get back to Whiterun for that.  Although I may have jumped the gun... looking at the images on the main mod page, it shows Anaita with some fairly normal-sized jugs, so I guess she's not as bimbo-fied as some of the others.  I am curious about the fact that she had vanilla hair, unlike the pic of her on the mod page. 

 

Yeah, Anaita just has regularly-big breasts (weight 100). Check out Roni or Cindil for some more enhanced bodies. But anyway, the MCM settings are for the bimbo curse transformation (and some quests), not the default bimbos in the world. The ones in the world just have hard-coded body shapes.

 

Anaita's different hair would be because of Botox- the Botox patch in the downloads will make her look like she does in the pictures. Without it she'll use any vanilla replacers from your mod setup.

 

Regarding AE, it's just SE with some extra bells and whistles, so anything that goes for SE is for AE too- including the INV sliders.

  

4 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

Can any sex trigger the bimbo curse on player or follower?

Any sex act that is tagged as "Aggressive" in Sexlab will increase bimbo corruption for every character (PC, NPC, or follower) in it. You gently make love to your follower? No corruption. Have super rough sex with a bandit? You'll gain corruption. Also, rape always counts as "aggressive", so it will always increase your corruption.

 

This is something this mod directly interfaces with Sexlab for, so it has nothing to do with any other mod.

Edited May 20, 2023 by jib_buttkiss

[GenPatton]

58 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Yeah, Anaita just has regularly-big breasts (weight 100). Check out Roni or Cindil for some more enhanced bodies. But anyway, the MCM settings are for the bimbo curse transformation (and some quests), not the default bimbos in the world. The ones in the world just have hard-coded body shapes.

 

Anaita's different hair would be because of Botox- the Botox patch in the downloads will make her look like she does in the pictures. Without it she'll use any vanilla replacers from your mod setup.

 

Regarding AE, it's just SE with some extra bells and whistles, so anything that goes for SE is for AE too- including the INV sliders.

Okay, that works.  I didn't download the Botox patch, so I just made my own to give the default bimbos different hairstyles.  Is there a way to customize their body shapes to one's preference?  I was skimming through this forum the other day, and could swear I saw something about some kind of stat file that could be edited, but now I can't find it.

 

Regarding the sliders, yeah, I figured that out with a little experimentation earlier this evening.

 

Overall, I'm enjoying the mod so far.  Thanks for the response, and for an interesting mod.

[_Delta_]

9 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

If you want them, there's a 3Ba conversion by Efgad here. I'll bundle it into the mod itself for the next version, but you can get it from there for now.

 

Males should be totally immune to the bimbo curse- they straight up don't gain corruption. What Pain debuff do you mean?

alr just got it and gonna build in boduslide and see it it helps 

as for the issue i mentioned i will get a couple screenshots of proof below is what the pain debuff effect specified

 

pain debuff is where it says: ass and tits are sore and it does zero damage ,to me which is even more strange for a male player

Edited May 20, 2023 by corporalquinn2nd

[xyzxyz]

9 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

13 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

 

Any sex act that is tagged as "Aggressive" in Sexlab will increase bimbo corruption for every character (PC, NPC, or follower) in it. You gently make love to your follower? No corruption. Have super rough sex with a bandit? You'll gain corruption. Also, rape always counts as "aggressive", so it will always increase your corruption.

How slow is that increase? I have slaverun installed so my followers and other NPCs get raped frequently but I never noticed any bimbo corruption.

[GenPatton]

For test purposes I got the refIDs and summoned Roni and Cindil, and they don't look much different than Anaita, so their "enhancements" aren't showing up in my game.

[foreveraloneguy]

1 hour ago, GenPatton said:

For test purposes I got the refIDs and summoned Roni and Cindil, and they don't look much different than Anaita, so their "enhancements" aren't showing up in my game.

 

Gotta take 'em through the quests to see the "extra".

[Wut1969]

On 5/18/2023 at 8:51 AM, xAmaranthia said:

Are you using a UNP--ish body?

 

[jib_buttkiss]

10 hours ago, GenPatton said:

Okay, that works.  I didn't download the Botox patch, so I just made my own to give the default bimbos different hairstyles.  Is there a way to customize their body shapes to one's preference?  I was skimming through this forum the other day, and could swear I saw something about some kind of stat file that could be edited, but now I can't find it.

 

You can adjust the default bimbos, but it's a bit of a pain in ass to. Go into you Skyrim Data folder, then meshes>actors>character>BodyGenData>CustomComments.esp. In there are 2 files, morphs.ini and templates.ini. templates.ini has a list of body morphs to apply to each named shape, each with a set of CBBE slider adjustments. For example, the GiantBoobsOnly template has all the breast values higher. Morphs.ini then lists which NPC ID gets what template applied (only IDs, no names, but you can probably guess them- GiantAssOnly is used for Buttslut, for example).

 

You could adjust the values in templates.ini to customise the bimbo's shapes, but just be warned that it can be a bit fiddly to get changes to show up in a savefile.

 

2 hours ago, corporalquinn2nd said:

alr just got it and gonna build in boduslide and see it it helps 

as for the issue i mentioned i will get a couple screenshots of proof below is what the pain debuff effect specified

 

pain debuff is where it says: ass and tits are sore and it does zero damage ,to me which is even more strange for a male player

 

There's no reference to pain or soreness in any of this mods debuffs (if I'm remembering correctly), so could that be from another mod?

 

2 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

How slow is that increase? I have slaverun installed so my followers and other NPCs get raped frequently but I never noticed any bimbo corruption.

 

Kinda slow? I think an NPC needs to be raped ~17 times to be cursed (if I'm remembering right)? You can check their rank in the CC_NPCBimboCorruptionLevel faction to see- at 100 the curse can start. For the player you can look in your active effects at the Bimbo Corruption effect for Slight, Moderate, High or Very High to see how corrupted you are.

 

2 hours ago, GenPatton said:

For test purposes I got the refIDs and summoned Roni and Cindil, and they don't look much different than Anaita, so their "enhancements" aren't showing up in my game.

 

Due to some... oddities with the BodyGen system, it's worth checking the default world-placed versions of them too. Try coc WindhelmCandlehearthHall and head upstairs to see if the "real" Roni has her BodyGen changes. If she's normal too, then yeah BodyGen isn't triggering for you.

[xyzxyz]

3 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Kinda slow? I think an NPC needs to be raped ~17 times to be cursed (if I'm remembering right)? You can check their rank in the CC_NPCBimboCorruptionLevel faction to see- at 100 the curse can start. For the player you can look in your active effects at the Bimbo Corruption effect for Slight, Moderate, High or Very High to see how corrupted you are.

My char has no corruption effect listed. Will it only show up when the curse already started?

Edit: The effect showed up after reading the rules once but not after having sex with a bimbo.

Edited May 20, 2023 by xyzxyz

[DrSeptimus]

Would future update make bimbo follower randomly have sex with other npc in the future?

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Like someone else mentioned, I prefer my HDT hair over the supplied Bimbo hairstyles so I just changed the color to as close as I could get to match.  But I am curious, how difficult is it to replace one/some of the supplied hairstyle(s) with HDT one(s)?  Like can I just change some filenames and drop them in place, or would I have to muck around in a .nif editor or something?  Don't even know if thats the right filetype for hair.

[GenPatton]

9 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

You could adjust the values in templates.ini to customise the bimbo's shapes, but just be warned that it can be a bit fiddly to get changes to show up in a savefile.

 

Due to some... oddities with the BodyGen system, it's worth checking the default world-placed versions of them too. Try coc WindhelmCandlehearthHall and head upstairs to see if the "real" Roni has her BodyGen changes. If she's normal too, then yeah BodyGen isn't triggering for you.

Well, something completely separate from this mod got jacked up in my current game, and I'm only a few days in on this one, so I'm going to start a new one shortly, we'll see if things are working any better.

 

One question though, if BodyGen isn't triggering, do you have any suggestions of how to get it to start?

[Eskella]

8 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

My char has no corruption effect listed. Will it only show up when the curse already started?

Edit: The effect showed up after reading the rules once but not after having sex with a bimbo.

 

The corruption effect will only show up after you exceed a certain threshold. Putting this and info about corruption gain/loss behind a spoiler just because, well, it is a spoiler.

 

Spoiler

• Aggressive sex where you are the victim adds two (2) points of corruption per instance.
  • That seems like it may not be a lot, but a lot of loss/slave/etc. mods love to queue up back-to-back scenes, so it can help avoid these basically becoming an instant bimbo spiral. I had one long Public Whore scene add, like, 20 points on its own despite this low level.
• Sex with a bimbo actor adds six (6) points of corruption, each time.
• NPCs get similar increases from these events, I believe, though I haven't poked into NPC corruption too much to do the math.
• Reading the 'good girl rules' provides adds fifteen (15) points of corruption, with a cooldown, and gives you a buff.
  • I believe having the buff active from the 'good girl rules' book increases the corruption from sex slightly, but I didn't do the math again lol.
• I think some of the quest events, like the hypno quest, may also add some depending on choices? Or that may have just been from regular SexLab.
• The cures have a chance to add corruption instead of removing it.
  • The alchemy cure removes twenty (20) corruption, but has a chance to add ten (10) corruption instead.
  • The temple cure removes thirteen (13) corruption, but has a chance to add twenty (20) corruption instead.
• The 'corruption stage' breakpoints (and thus the Bimbo Corruption magic effects) happen at 20, 40, 60, 80, and 100 corruption.
  • At 100 corruption, the 'curse' kicks in and you are stuck.
  • Because of this, it's super careful to make sure you don't get above 80 corruption if you are trying to 'avoid' the curse - because you could flip that 20 point backfire and be screwed, even if it is a low chance.

 

Probably some other stuff I am forgetting but that's what I've found out so far through some liberal checking of the corruption level after things happen. I presume a lot of this is buried in the script source as well but I really didn't want to dig through to find all the files, esp. where a lot of them are little script fragment files that aren't named as cleanly as others.

Edited May 21, 2023 by Eskella