Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[ebbluminous]

3 minutes ago, KnightPhrix said:

i should also mention I am using Skyrim SE and have the patch for it as well

Installs fine on Vortex for me

[Miauzi]

Vor 5 Minuten sagte KnightPhrix:

Ich habe anscheinend ein Problem und hoffe, dass mir jemand helfen kann. Ich habe die Mod mit Vortex installiert und wenn ich sie lade, gibt es keine NPCs in Tavernen, es gibt auch keine Plugins, die auf Vortex aktiviert werden können, und nichts im MCM des Spiels

 

the mod is not installed correctly

[GenPatton]

Played through Lyvi's quests with a male PC, everything worked fine.  One interesting thing.  Male PC got slutmarked during the quest, got cured.  But ever since, periodically when he gets rather aroused, the glowing slutmark reappears, then goes away again after he bones someone.  I haven't been paying close enough attention, and sometimes the proper viewing angle isn't really there, to tell if this happens every time.  Just curious if this is expected behavior, in between getting the Lyvi curse cured and getting the final curse (for female PCs)?

[jib_buttkiss]

16 minutes ago, KnightPhrix said:

I seem to be having a problem and hopefully someone could help me out, I installed the mod using Vortex and when I load in there's no npc's at taverns, there is also no plugins to enable on Vortex and nothing in the games mcm

 

Yeah, like the others are saying, sounds like an install issue. Just checking, you have installed the base mod as well as the SE patch, right? If you have the .esp installed and enabled you'd be seeing at least something in game.

 

4 minutes ago, GenPatton said:

Played through Lyvi's quests with a male PC, everything worked fine.  One interesting thing.  Male PC got slutmarked during the quest, got cured.  But ever since, periodically when he gets rather aroused, the glowing slutmark reappears, then goes away again after he bones someone.  I haven't been paying close enough attention, and sometimes the proper viewing angle isn't really there, to tell if this happens every time.  Just curious if this is expected behavior, in between getting the Lyvi curse cured and getting the final curse (for female PCs)?

 

Um... odd. No, that shouldn't happen. I don't think there's anything in the mod that could cause that sort of behaviour at all. That's really weird...

[KnightPhrix]

16 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

16 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Yeah, like the others are saying, sounds like an install issue. Just checking, you have installed the base mod as well as the SE patch, right? If you have the .esp installed and enabled you'd be seeing at least something in game.

 

 

Um... odd. No, that shouldn't happen. I don't think there's anything in the mod that could cause that sort of behaviour at all. That's really weird...

ive installed it and the patch, but dont see a esp in the plugins

[KnightPhrix]

20 minutes ago, KnightPhrix said:

 

Nvm i did find the esp, wasn't named what i thought it would be, but it is enabled and all ive done was install from the file i downloaded on here, but still nothing

[Miauzi]

Vor 1 Minute sagte KnightPhrix:

NVM, ich habe das ESP gefunden, es wurde nicht so benannt, wie ich es mir vorgestellt hatte, aber es ist aktiviert und alles, was ich getan habe, war die Installation von der Datei, die ich hier heruntergeladen habe, aber immer noch nichts

 

and we here are supposed to use our "crystal balls" to check what you have installed and find out about possible mod conflicts without knowing your installation. ???

?

[GenPatton]

2 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Um... odd. No, that shouldn't happen. I don't think there's anything in the mod that could cause that sort of behaviour at all. That's really weird...

Now I'm wondering about the "Glowing Lewdmarks" mod I picked up to go along with SlaveTats, and whether it might be the culprit.  No big deal either way, it's just a visual thing, and relatively unobtrusive.  BTW, major kudos to you both for the mod itself, but also for as involved as you are in this forum.  In my experience it's fairly rare to see a mod author being this busy working with those using their mods.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

6 hours ago, GenPatton said:

Now I'm wondering about the "Glowing Lewdmarks" mod I picked up to go along with SlaveTats, and whether it might be the culprit.  No big deal either way, it's just a visual thing, and relatively unobtrusive.  BTW, major kudos to you both for the mod itself, but also for as involved as you are in this forum.  In my experience it's fairly rare to see a mod author being this busy working with those using their mods.

Glowing Lewdmarks is definitely the culprit, its doing exactly what it is supposed to. 

[GenPatton]

9 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Glowing Lewdmarks is definitely the culprit, its doing exactly what it is supposed to. 

The odd part is that after the curse was done and the mark removed, it keeps coming back, albeit temporarily.  Perhaps they didn't expect anyone would remove the marks once they'd placed them?

[AnonAngelion]

Tbh I would try this just for the ability to set an npc's outfit to default naked, as there doesn't seem to be many mods that do this permanently.

 

And I'm down for whatever skyrim+sexlab craziness that's new on the block...

 

But... there should always, always be a way to reverse it, more for troubleshooting issues then just cheating the mod, but most importantly, it actually enhances the will to use the mod, as it allows you to play around, role play with it, and then put it aside without new gaming or being forever locked into doing something you just don't want to do at the time.

 

If the mod allows someone to put it aside momentarily, they're more likely to want to use it again later, myself included.

If not... what's likely to happen is that they uninstall it and then never look at it again in favor of convenience, and that's just a shame, cos it takes no small amount of effort to make these things I know.

 

Lastly, it might be good to have... and forgive me if this is a thing and I've just misunderstood... an option to not only retain a player's personal bodyslides, but also retain their own chosen hair, just... some people might like to apply their own hair style with their own body, in regards to the player character becoming a bimbo anyway.

 

Sorry if it sounds like I'm projecting onto you my own preferences, I'm just trying to point out ways (that are hopefully simple) to make it more player friendly is all.

 

Perhaps you're already working on these things, in which case nevermind and sorry for the big paragraph, just something to think about if not. ?

 

One final thought that you might even like the sound of... what if... instead of having a limited set of hairstyles for the bimbos, there was a way to gradually turn their normal hair blonde over time, the more the curse sets in?

 

Alright enough from me, just spit-balling there haha, peace.

[jib_buttkiss]

35 minutes ago, AnonAngelion said:

Tbh I would try this just for the ability to set an npc's outfit to default naked, as there doesn't seem to be many mods that do this permanently.

 

And I'm down for whatever skyrim+sexlab craziness that's new on the block...

 

But... there should always, always be a way to reverse it, more for troubleshooting issues then just cheating the mod, but most importantly, it actually enhances the will to use the mod, as it allows you to play around, role play with it, and then put it aside without new gaming or being forever locked into doing something you just don't want to do at the time.

 

If the mod allows someone to put it aside momentarily, they're more likely to want to use it again later, myself included.

If not... what's likely to happen is that they uninstall it and then never look at it again in favor of convenience, and that's just a shame, cos it takes no small amount of effort to make these things I know.

 

Lastly, it might be good to have... and forgive me if this is a thing and I've just misunderstood... an option to not only retain a player's personal bodyslides, but also retain their own chosen hair, just... some people might like to apply their own hair style with their own body, in regards to the player character becoming a bimbo anyway.

 

Sorry if it sounds like I'm projecting onto you my own preferences, I'm just trying to point out ways (that are hopefully simple) to make it more player friendly is all.

 

Perhaps you're already working on these things, in which case nevermind and sorry for the big paragraph, just something to think about if not. ?

 

One final thought that you might even like the sound of... what if... instead of having a limited set of hairstyles for the bimbos, there was a way to gradually turn their normal hair blonde over time, the more the curse sets in?

 

Alright enough from me, just spit-balling there haha, peace.

 

There's some good points in here. By the way, the curse can be totally disabled, so if you wanted to install for only the hypnosis you could!

 

I'll add a hypno option to give an NPC's clothes back- it just makes sense to have that, I don't know why I didn't in the first place to be honest.

 

About reversing the bimbo curse, the reason there's no way to properly remove it is, basically, because it'd be a big nuisance to code that. But if you were to uninstall, the only part of the curse that would linger would be the morphs (all the effects, debuffs, etc. wouldn't exist without the mod), but in 1.6 there will be a way to temporarily remove morphs, so if you did that the uninstall would go fine.

 

About the bimbo hair, you can keep your own hair and body! For the hair, at one point in the curse you'll be given the "Makeover!" power, which you can use to switch between any of the 8 set hairstyles, or use your default hair instead. Or,, if you have YPS Fashion installed, you'll keep your own hair by default instead of ever getting a set one (and the curse will affect your YPS haircut directly).

For the body, the size of the morphs can be set in the MCM- setting them to 0 would mean no changes from your normal bodyslide body.

 

The gradual blonde idea is cool, but my initial thoughts on it are that it'd be borderline impossible to implement in a worthwhile way, so I might have to let that one go (which is a shame!).

Edited June 7, 2023 by jib_buttkiss

[Efgad]

On 6/3/2023 at 10:04 AM, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Could this have anything to do with what foreveraloneguy was talking about here? I don't really know anything about nifs or outfit studio, but it's another shoe/nif-based issue so maybe?

 

I haven't the foggiest!

[espguy]

If I play a male character can i avoid the corruption or will I have to bother keeping it in check?

[Balgin]

1 hour ago, jib_buttkiss said:

The gradual blonde idea is cool, but my initial thoughts on it are that it'd be borderline impossible to implement in a worthwhile way, so I might have to let that one go (which is a shame!).

Perhaps there'd be a way to reverse YPS's "colour fades as hair grows" or YPS's "colour fades over time" hair dye options into a colour increasing. I doubt it but it's a thought as to where to start looking for a potential method.

[AnonAngelion]

9 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

There's some good points in here. By the way, the curse can be totally disabled, so if you wanted to install for only the hypnosis you could!

 

I'll add a hypno option to give an NPC's clothes back- it just makes sense to have that, I don't know why I didn't in the first place to be honest.

 

About reversing the bimbo curse, the reason there's no way to properly remove it is, basically, because it'd be a big nuisance to code that. But if you were to uninstall, the only part of the curse that would linger would be the morphs (all the effects, debuffs, etc. wouldn't exist without the mod), but in 1.6 there will be a way to temporarily remove morphs, so if you did that the uninstall would go fine.

 

About the bimbo hair, you can keep your own hair and body! For the hair, at one point in the curse you'll be given the "Makeover!" power, which you can use to switch between any of the 8 set hairstyles, or use your default hair instead. Or,, if you have YPS Fashion installed, you'll keep your own hair by default instead of ever getting a set one (and the curse will affect your YPS haircut directly).

For the body, the size of the morphs can be set in the MCM- setting them to 0 would mean no changes from your normal bodyslide body.

 

The gradual blonde idea is cool, but my initial thoughts on it are that it'd be borderline impossible to implement in a worthwhile way, so I might have to let that one go (which is a shame!).

 

Thank you for the concise reply.  I see what you're saying, I'm not a mod creator myself so I'm not sure what is easy to code, I take my hat off to anyone who can figure it out haha.

 

I don't think I've ever seen YPS fashion, I'll have to keep an eye out for that.

 

It is a shame that the things I mentioned were harder to do than I suspected, but that's ok, I appreciate that you would consider them. ?

 

Best wishes and happy modding. ?

[Balgin]

6 hours ago, AnonAngelion said:

 

Thank you for the concise reply.  I see what you're saying, I'm not a mod creator myself so I'm not sure what is easy to code, I take my hat off to anyone who can figure it out haha.

 

I don't think I've ever seen YPS fashion, I'll have to keep an eye out for that.

 

It is a shame that the things I mentioned were harder to do than I suspected, but that's ok, I appreciate that you would consider them. ?

 

Best wishes and happy modding. ?

Allow me to help you out.

 

It's not like I have the YPS thread permanently bookmarked or anything.

[SkyAddiction]

21 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

The gradual blonde idea is cool, but my initial thoughts on it are that it'd be borderline impossible to implement in a worthwhile way, so I might have to let that one go (which is a shame!).

 

There's no way the modder's package for Racemenu doesn't have a command that can do this. The real problem would be all the different monitor and ENB settings people have, so you'd need to have a way for people to put a color hex code into the MCM or a "Click here to use current hair color for bimbo hair:" kind of thing...

 

I haven't really looked into it, but my first impression is that it's probably a pretty black-and-white task - either incredibly simple or a gigantic pain in the ass.

[Foxy1873]

Mhh, i seem to have some odd issues with the Botox Patch, first issue was caused by myself, i used the Botox SE Version which caused a Missing Hair Texture on Morella Grey-Mane, then i went ahead and used the BotoxLE Version just without the .esp the textures for Morella Grey-Mane are now there but now i still have the issues that Lyli Battle-Born is Bald..

 

This is the loadorder

Botox LE (Before i had SE but missing textures on Morella Grey-Mane so i tried the LE version without any .esp and then i had no more missing textures)
Bimbos of Skyrim 1.5.2
Bimbos of Skyrim SE Patch 1.5

Bimbos of Skyrim CBBE 3BA Slavetats SE
Bimbos of Skyrim Botox NPC's Patch 1.5

[jib_buttkiss]

On 6/7/2023 at 3:57 PM, espguy said:

If I play a male character can i avoid the corruption or will I have to bother keeping it in check?

  

Corruption does nothing to a male character, you can safely ignore it. If your character somehow got changed into a woman though, all the harmless corruption accumulated as a man would still be there...

 

Actually, I've just noticed that the corruption status spells ("Bimbo Corruption: Slight", etc.) still get added to male characters. I'll change it so that they don't, to save any confusion.

 

13 hours ago, SkyAddiction said:

 

There's no way the modder's package for Racemenu doesn't have a command that can do this. The real problem would be all the different monitor and ENB settings people have, so you'd need to have a way for people to put a color hex code into the MCM or a "Click here to use current hair color for bimbo hair:" kind of thing...

 

I haven't really looked into it, but my first impression is that it's probably a pretty black-and-white task - either incredibly simple or a gigantic pain in the ass.

 

I'll have a proper look eventually and see which way it goes. It's another one for the long-term list.

 

44 minutes ago, Foxy1873 said:

Mhh, i seem to have some odd issues with the Botox Patch, first issue was caused by myself, i used the Botox SE Version which caused a Missing Hair Texture on Morella Grey-Mane, then i went ahead and used the BotoxLE Version just without the .esp the textures for Morella Grey-Mane are now there but now i still have the issues that Lyli Battle-Born is Bald..

 

This is the loadorder

Botox LE (Before i had SE but missing textures on Morella Grey-Mane so i tried the LE version without any .esp and then i had no more missing textures)
Bimbos of Skyrim 1.5.2
Bimbos of Skyrim SE Patch 1.5

Bimbos of Skyrim CBBE 3BA Slavetats SE
Bimbos of Skyrim Botox NPC's Patch 1.5

 

There seems to be an issue with SE botox where that one particular hairstyle doesn't show up, leaving NPCs using it bald- the one that Lyli and Jill use. I've had a few people report it, so I don't think it has anything to do with your load order. I don't know why it happens though so there's nothing I can do to fix it, which sucks.

If their baldness is bothering you, you could use the console to equip a bimbo wig to Lyli and Jill so that they have hair. It's a lame bandaid fix, but I don't have anything better to suggest.

 

 

 

As an aside, instead of doing anything properly useful, I finally fixed the hypnosis dialogue so that a male player is referred to as "Master" instead of "Mistress". This, by the way, was only slightly less tedious than I thought it would be.

Spoiler

Yuck.

 

Edited June 8, 2023 by jib_buttkiss

[Efgad]

7 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

  

Corruption does nothing to a male character, you can safely ignore it. If your character somehow got changed into a woman though, all the harmless corruption accumulated as a man would still be there...

 

Actually, I've just noticed that the corruption status spells ("Bimbo Corruption: Slight", etc.) still get added to male characters. I'll change it so that they don't, to save any confusion.

 

A fun scenario to have in conjuction with Hormones from Bluefrog

[Balgin]

33 minutes ago, Efgad said:

 

A fun scenario to have in conjuction with Hormones from Bluefrog

Just remember that this mod's bimbo curse conflicts strongly with the one from Hormones. If you were a Hormones bimbo then were cured (even if it was only for a very short time) then you become a bimbo from this mod it really messed up, makes your body model invisible from the neck down and always running/unencumbered. Occasionally the body model and movement speed fix themselves but the bug keeps coming back.

 

What you probably could do is track the Bimbo hormone in Hormones and then increase this mod's corruption accordingly (by reading Anaita's note or having sex with bimbos).

[jib_buttkiss]

57 minutes ago, Efgad said:

 

A fun scenario to have in conjuction with Hormones from Bluefrog

 

Or YPS's sex change quest, once that's done. I could see that being a fun little sequence of events- male hero > turned into a woman > turned into a bimbo.

 

21 minutes ago, Balgin said:

Just remember that this mod's bimbo curse conflicts strongly with the one from Hormones. If you were a Hormones bimbo then were cured (even if it was only for a very short time) then you become a bimbo from this mod it really messed up, makes your body model invisible from the neck down and always running/unencumbered. Occasionally the body model and movement speed fix themselves but the bug keeps coming back.

 

What you probably could do is track the Bimbo hormone in Hormones and then increase this mod's corruption accordingly (by reading Anaita's note or having sex with bimbos).

Wait, really? I expected it to cause some general jank from overlapping effects, but all that seems... excessive? It could be something not playing nice with Hormone's custom race- I have that disabled and I never had any issues like that in my (admittedly pretty brief) testing.

 

Doesn't Hormones has a toggle to disable just it's bimbo curse, or does that block its sex-change curse too?

[Balgin]

1 hour ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Doesn't Hormones has a toggle to disable just it's bimbo curse, or does that block its sex-change curse too?

Hormones has separate toggles for the Bimbo Curse, Sex Change curse, Transgender curse and the Succubus curse. Hormones does have a bug where it can crank your arousal level up to 100 every time you rest, 'though.

 

So yes, you could absolutely run Hormones & Bimbos of Skyrim and turn off the Hormones Bimbo curse. You'd still get the Bimbo Hormone increase every time you had sex with daedra, had rough sex, group sex but it wouldn't turn you into a Hormones Bimbo because the curse would be disabled (I can't remember all the triggers but it's mainly daedra sex that increase the Hormones hormone).

 

Don't use the custom Bimbo race in Hormones. It's bugged. Instead do the Bimbo without race change and that works "just fine". I wasn't using the Hormones custom bimbo race. But yeah, ex Hormones Bimbos have major problems becoming BOS Bimbos (I ran a few checks to see because you mentioned it would create problems). I wasn't expecting the problems to be that drastic.

 

In Hormones the Bimbo curse automatically triggers the sex change curse even if you didn't have it selected.

[emily1673]

On 6/7/2023 at 6:41 AM, AnonAngelion said:

One final thought that you might even like the sound of... what if... instead of having a limited set of hairstyles for the bimbos, there was a way to gradually turn their normal hair blonde over time, the more the curse sets in?

 

On 6/7/2023 at 7:16 AM, jib_buttkiss said:

The gradual blonde idea is cool, but my initial thoughts on it are that it'd be borderline impossible to implement in a worthwhile way, so I might have to let that one go (which is a shame!).

 

On 6/7/2023 at 9:08 AM, Balgin said:

Perhaps there'd be a way to reverse YPS's "colour fades as hair grows" or YPS's "colour fades over time" hair dye options into a colour increasing. I doubt it but it's a thought as to where to start looking for a potential method.

 

On 6/8/2023 at 4:34 AM, SkyAddiction said:

There's no way the modder's package for Racemenu doesn't have a command that can do this. The real problem would be all the different monitor and ENB settings people have, so you'd need to have a way for people to put a color hex code into the MCM or a "Click here to use current hair color for bimbo hair:" kind of thing...

I haven't really looked into it, but my first impression is that it's probably a pretty black-and-white task - either incredibly simple or a gigantic pain in the ass.

It was "a pain in the ass", but with YPS it is now "incredibly simple":

Using YPS, a "gradual blond" feature would be easy to implement, at least for the Player character. It is not there yet, but the infrastructure is.

In the beginning, the way hairstyles are implemented also caused me a big headache. The biggest challenge is that it is impossible for a script to query the current hair color or hair style of a character.

So the way I did it: the YPS mod actively controls the hair color and style (which is a lot of effort: I had to implement the whole hair makeover system, including configuring hundreds of hair styles, just for this feature), and resets it about every 20 seconds.

Gradual hair color change already happens in the YPS mod during hair dye makeovers and when using shampoo, and of course when dyed hair slowly grows out.

 

Here is how to implement a gradual hair bimbo change for the PC:

- It is required the YPS is running before the transformation starts, so that YPS know the original hair color.

- I could add a feature to set the hair color to the color which is a certain percentage in between the current hair color and a target color (e.g. bleached blonde).

And that is it.

 

For NPCs more difficult, because it would need a system that actively monitors and sets the hair color of NPCs. I have already begun thinking about implementing this, but will start with this task only some other things are finished.

 

 

6 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Or YPS's sex change quest, once that's done. I could see that being a fun little sequence of events- male hero > turned into a woman > turned into a bimbo.

I am already thinking to integrate a gradual transformation into a Bimbo into the quest, e.g. the player can (by choosing to do some "pink" behaviour) accumulate bimbo corruption over the course of the quest, so that the Bimbo curse triggers when the quest ends. (Another way of course is: after finishing the quest (with female ending), the player can become a Bimbo in the ways BOS provides.)

Here I have a small request to @jib_buttkiss: I would need to temporarily disable that the bimbo curse triggers (because it would mess things up if bimbo curse triggers before the quest has finished). Useful would be a function that will add corruption, but not exceed a certain threshold. E. g. AddPlayerCorruptionCapped(x,y) would do something like:

NewPlayerCorruption = CurrentPlayerCorruption + x

if NewPlayerCorruption > y then NewPlayerCorruption = max(y,CurrentPlayerCorruption)

(I hope you understand what I mean)

Edited June 9, 2023 by emily1673