Auds Multi-coloured Kink Shop

[kapibar]

55 minutes ago, audhol said:

 

@kapibar this is why I didnt want to do it because I knew it would end it this point.

And I told you from the start - you could ask for help, or do it like @naaitsab said - just fucking slap together 2 most popular body types and let the community take care of the rest. If they want to use your work, they'll have to adapt it themselves ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, audhol said:

LE users are stuck to their beleif that it is somehow a superior version of the game

Uhmm, that's the one version of Skyrim that runs on this eight year old potatoe of a computer, as long as I stick to moderately detailed textures and meshes.

All this high poly stuff might be nice to look at but brings my machine to its knees.

[Xenoramos]

3 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

well - I started SE on an even older carrot and it performed better than the LE version

the age of a PC can NOT serve as the sole argument here.

A bit of off-topic thoughts on it.

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-For me LE is superior because it's easier to use. Built-it mod manager in launcher is much easier to use, and SE constantly getting in the way of installing mods for me.

-For example SkyUI doesn't fully work, I barely managed to make it at least work enough to give MCM working (my interface is managed by now-removed fork, "SkyLightUI"). And I had to navigate to "plugins.ini" file and manually add "*SkyUI_SE.esp" to make it work, while on LE I simply put mod into Data folder and adjust it it load order if needed.

-Other downside of SE for me (as I finally decided recently to try SE, mainly because of some of it's exclusive mods) - if it get patched, mods break. Have to wait several days for SKSE64 to update, and pray that SKSE dependant mods will work.

-And for me LE have much better performance on my PC (It's not high-end, but can run some modern games decently)

-And ingame menu navigation is much more complicated in SE. Like, for example, why the heck they decided that pressing Esc button should open the Quest Journal instead of menu with save\load\config? And mod that should fix it, in fact fix it only partially.

 

-On the other hand, LE tends to crash noticeably more often for me, than SE. But it's possible I just haven't installed many mods on SE yet and it behaves stable.

 

I'm saying it from position of manual installation of mods. And it is much more user-friendly in LE. Of course SE has some benefits too, I don't deny it.

 

[naaitsab]

7 hours ago, Xenoramos said:

A bit of off-topic thoughts on it.

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-For me LE is superior because it's easier to use. Built-it mod manager in launcher is much easier to use, and SE constantly getting in the way of installing mods for me.

-For example SkyUI doesn't fully work, I barely managed to make it at least work enough to give MCM working (my interface is managed by now-removed fork, "SkyLightUI"). And I had to navigate to "plugins.ini" file and manually add "*SkyUI_SE.esp" to make it work, while on LE I simply put mod into Data folder and adjust it it load order if needed.

-Other downside of SE for me (as I finally decided recently to try SE, mainly because of some of it's exclusive mods) - if it get patched, mods break. Have to wait several days for SKSE64 to update, and pray that SKSE dependant mods will work.

-And for me LE have much better performance on my PC (It's not high-end, but can run some modern games decently)

-And ingame menu navigation is much more complicated in SE. Like, for example, why the heck they decided that pressing Esc button should open the Quest Journal instead of menu with save\load\config? And mod that should fix it, in fact fix it only partially.

 

-On the other hand, LE tends to crash noticeably more often for me, than SE. But it's possible I just haven't installed many mods on SE yet and it behaves stable.

 

I'm saying it from position of manual installation of mods. And it is much more user-friendly in LE. Of course SE has some benefits too, I don't deny it.

 

On most mod files it's also quite easy to do LE -> SE conversion and in some cases impossible or very hard to do SE -> LE. The bodyslide files most likely would have to be tuned manually but at least it's possible.

As long as Bethesda keeps breaking core mods on SL with paid updates, LE is still very popular and with above in mind I do like it a lot of mods are multi-versioned. 

[kurotatsu]

On topic of too many bodies - indeed there are many.

And no, you have no obligation to make sliders for all of them, it's nearly impossible.

 

I'd recommend to stick to DD standard: 2 bodies - CBBE and UUNP, 2 versions - LE and SE. 4 slider sets total.

If someone wants to have it working with any other random body - they can make sliders themselves, period.

[Herowynne]

On 11/27/2022 at 7:49 AM, audhol said:

DeviousSexDollSEUUNP.7z 241.83 MB · 7 downloads

 

I downloaded, built in BodySlide, and tested.

 

Since you had already used CAO, the meshes were already contained BSTriShape nodes, so I did not need to run SSE NIF Optimizer. Thanks!

 

Results of testing: The catsuit is working perfectly, including breast/belly/butt physics. But the nipple and vag piercings are invisible.

[Mexicola88]

@audholDon't make yourself crazy, just do what you think is right man. Don't try to support every bodytype. Just create it for the game you got so SE/AE whatever, let the LE ppl convert it themselves, there are probably enough ppl that can do that, and they do that voluntary.

[kapibar]

Guys, I think we broke the poor sod ?.

[Lowkid2]

Hey everyone  ,

first of all I understand audhol that he feels overwhelmed by the great number of body types and it wouldn't be fair to expect him working on all body types. (maybe just focus on the body type you are using and ask modders that create outfits of the other sizes to adapt it? . just a thought ?‍♂️)

From my side I can attest that the piercings work as intended now but the non-breast-bondage variants of the suit crash my game. 

I don't know how to figure out what crashes my game but that's what I experienced.

 

When it comes to the quest... oh well I don't have great ideas right now  

Anyways... I hope audhol get's back soon but I don't mind if he takes his time eighter.

 

It should be consence that this project is worth continuing!   

[audhol]

1 hour ago, kapibar said:

Guys, I think we broke the poor sod ?.

Nah you guys didnt break me I just dont want to look at it at the moment.

 

None of you actually said or did anything that I disagreed with but there is just far too many users pulling in different directions and I tried to please all of you when it is simply not possible.

 

I'm doing some updates to https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/77167

because its easy, fun, I get points and also I do whatever I want.

 

 

I dont think I will reexamine making an alternative catsuit for DD with the way that DD is setup with multiple voices across multiple platforms its simply not possible.

 

The sexdoll catsuit is maybe something that could be reborn at some point but at the moment I'm more thinking about using my meshes and textures to make a nexus outfit as I can counterbalance users demands (its too high poly for my potato, it doesnt conform to base body, it clips with blahblahblah, why dont you make it for x body, your textures look like shit, there should be a join here, I don't like how it fits round the knees, it should have stockings, it should have boots, the sleeves are too long blah blah blah blah blah blah) with the fact that I get points for each download, and what do points make?

 

 

PRIZES

 

 

[kapibar]

31 minutes ago, audhol said:

I dont think I will reexamine making an alternative catsuit for DD with the way that DD is setup with multiple voices across multiple platforms its simply not possible.

That's shitey, but I get it. Hope you will reexamine your reexamination, because it looked really promising. But you do you, this whole modding thing is supposed to be a pleasure. It didn't seem like you had any fun TBH.

[Xenoramos]

12 hours ago, audhol said:

None of you actually said or did anything that I disagreed with but there is just far too many users pulling in different directions and I tried to please all of you when it is simply not possible.

 

I dont think I will reexamine making an alternative catsuit for DD with the way that DD is setup with multiple voices across multiple platforms its simply not possible.

 

The sexdoll catsuit is maybe something that could be reborn at some point but at the moment I'm more thinking about using my meshes and textures to make a nexus outfit as I can counterbalance users demands (its too high poly for my potato, it doesnt conform to base body, it clips with blahblahblah, why dont you make it for x body, your textures look like shit, there should be a join here, I don't like how it fits round the knees, it should have stockings, it should have boots, the sleeves are too long blah blah blah blah blah blah) with the fact that I get points for each download, and what do points make?

I think it will be most wise devision, to make mod for the game version and body YOU have and not trying to please everyone (including me of course, lol).

Glad to hear you aren't completely throwing idea away, maybe after some break you will decide to make it as separate addon, not replacement for current one.

In any case, wish you best of luck on your modding projects, and most importantly, have fun with mods

[audhol]

On 12/2/2022 at 8:31 AM, Xenoramos said:

I think it will be most wise devision, to make mod for the game version and body YOU have and not trying to please everyone (including me of course, lol).

Glad to hear you aren't completely throwing idea away, maybe after some break you will decide to make it as separate addon, not replacement for current one.

In any case, wish you best of luck on your modding projects, and most importantly, have fun with mods

O.K. having taken some time away I think I'm going to go back to what I did before and make outfits that are non DD. 

 

For me there are just too many constraints and different points of view to be able to make replacers. That doesnt meen that I wont ever decide to make new stuff that could be used like the muzzle gag or the piercings.

 

So for now I'm going to add some accesories and details to the catsuit and release that as an SE only mod on nexus. If someone wants to convert it over to LE to integrate it into DD then fine.

 

Also I found (honestly I just stumbled upon it cough cough) some inspiration for another outfit after the catsuit and I just spent all my DP on lifetime nexus membership so need to rack some downloads up.

 

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[Xenoramos]

27 minutes ago, audhol said:

For me there are just too many constraints and different points of view to be able to make replacers. That doesnt meen that I wont ever decide to make new stuff that could be used like the muzzle gag or the piercings.

 

So for now I'm going to add some accesories and details to the catsuit and release that as an SE only mod on nexus. If someone wants to convert it over to LE to integrate it into DD then fine.

 

Also I found (honestly I just stumbled upon it cough cough) some inspiration for another outfit after the catsuit and I just spent all my DP on lifetime nexus membership so need to rack some downloads up.

 

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About replacers - agreed. But IMHO nothing restricts you to make separate add-on for DD, that doesn't have to support each and every bodytype in the universe, many add-ons were made exclusively for one body type (for example, "Angeli Devious Expansion" pretty long time ago, it was made exclusively for LE CBBE, and someone in it's thread made a conversion to UUNP some time after it's release)

 

But as separate non-DD mod - would also be good.

 

p.s. love the outfit on the photos, looks fabulous.

[audhol]

3 minutes ago, Xenoramos said:

About replacers - agreed. But IMHO nothing restricts you to make separate add-on for DD, that doesn't have to support each and every bodytype in the universe, many add-ons were made exclusively for one body type (for example, "Angeli Devious Expansion" pretty long time ago, it was made exclusively for LE CBBE, and someone in it's thread made a conversion to UUNP some time after it's release)

Thats a fair point, maybe I'll put an optional ESL in the fomod for it to have the DD scripts attached.

[naaitsab]

5 hours ago, Xenoramos said:

About replacers - agreed. But IMHO nothing restricts you to make separate add-on for DD, that doesn't have to support each and every bodytype in the universe, many add-ons were made exclusively for one body type (for example, "Angeli Devious Expansion" pretty long time ago, it was made exclusively for LE CBBE, and someone in it's thread made a conversion to UUNP some time after it's release)

 

But as separate non-DD mod - would also be good.

 

p.s. love the outfit on the photos, looks fabulous.

This, and a bonus for a lack of better wording. If you release it as is then somebody else can do the conversion, so it can adhere to the rules of DD when it comes to the supported bodies.  The entire idea behind DD is that it's a joint venture to even out the load.

If something is brought up as a 1:1 replacer then it does have to adhere to even be considered a candidate. But for a resource or a stand-alone mod that uses DD. It does not matter at all. It's still a good practice to support the most popular body but that's more a general modder thing.

 

Making your own DD mod is very easy so it does not have to become wasted effort, we just need to bring some modders together to slap something into a usable state  

 

 

[audhol]

Quick question to y'all,

 

Are we agreed that Halle Berry is fine and all that but there is only really one catwowan and that is Michelle Pfeiffer?

 

[Mexicola88]

21 minutes ago, audhol said:

Quick question to y'all,

 

Are we agreed that Halle Berry is fine and all that but there is only really one catwowan and that is Michelle Pfeiffer?

 

Yeah Halle Berry sucked as Catwoman, i mean it's not even a real catsuit that she wears. And the movie was just bad IMO.

Even if a apocalypse happened, and it would be the last movie on earth that could be watched, nope i wouldn't watch it again. Hell freezes before that happens.  

 

Edited December 8, 2022 by Mexicola88

[NoirXiaoba]

2 hours ago, audhol said:

Are we agreed that Halle Berry is fine and all that but there is only really one catwowan and that is Michelle Pfeiffer?

Didn't even know there was an argument to be had here.

[kapibar]

11 hours ago, audhol said:

Are we agreed that Halle Berry is fine and all that but there is only really one catwowan and that is Michelle Pfeiffer?

Batman '89 is the ultimate Batman for me. But with all due respect to the wonderful Michell Pfeiffer, the only real Catwoman is Julie Newmar.

Absolutely stunning, she had it all - sex appeal, physique, class... You can't outcat the cat.

 

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[kapibar]

2 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

...where the Badmobile is not simply parked on the sidewalk but properly parked and the quarter is thrown into the parking meter with a corresponding instructional comment

?

Well, fucking d'uh! How else will you avoid having your Batmobile towed by city services and having to pick it up from a guarded parking lot? There's nothing more anticlimactic after a long day of fighting villains than having to take a stroll through the city in your working clothes. Women such as Julie Newmar will never *bat* an eye on this type of people.

[audhol]

So huh......... the reason behind the catwoman question was...............................

 

 

Spoiler

 

[NoirXiaoba]

3 hours ago, Miauzi said:

The previous suit was a glued latex suit in terms of design - division of the cut surfaces - seams etc. are a more than clear indication.
Putting wild seam lines (in a zigzag stitch) over it now doesn't work.

 

I have to agree, unfortunately. The stitching clashes with the clear seams indicating a glued or welded (instead of stitched) design of the suit.

Für Miauzis Auto-Übersetzer: "welded" im Sinne von "verschmolzen".

[naaitsab]

4 hours ago, audhol said:

So huh......... the reason behind the catwoman question was...............................

 

 

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So the suit also has 2 built-in bat caves now? ?

 

And I still get triggered by those nipple openings way more than I should, can't get used to them ?

[NoirXiaoba]

21 minutes ago, naaitsab said:

And I still get triggered by those nipple openings way more than I should, can't get used to them

Maybe it'd help if they were surrounded by defined seams or hems... ?