acheron Yamete Kudasai

[Shade115]

On 10/10/2022 at 2:50 AM, hypnolem said:

Does this function similar to SL Defeat where it has NPC VS NPC functionality? That would be useful since atm, Defeat doesnt seem to play nicely with the current SL StopCombat plugin.

It does indeed allow for NPC v NPC scenarios.

This becomes especially obvious with some random encounters, like the one where you find a dead Witch who summoned a hostile Atronach. The Witch isn't spawned dead, they instead simply receive lethal damage when you get close enough to them (I think they're set to have a low enough HP pool that they simply die to the Atronach's aura), which leads to them getting downed by the mod and then targeted by the Atronach.

[LordDrakath15226]

How do i make this work? The enemies don't enter bleedout and just die.

[Someone92]

Make sure you use the right version.

There is one for se (game version 1.5) and ae (game version 1.6). Also afaik the mod doesn't work with Le, VR and gog.

Edited October 17, 2022 by Someone92

[LordDrakath15226]

4 hours ago, Someone92 said:

Make sure you use the right version.

There is one for se (game version 1.5) and ae (game version 1.6). Also afaik the mod doesn't work with Le, VR and gog.

 

Think it might've been that, let's try the AE patch.

[Someone92]

Also the AE version has been updated a few weeks ago. There is the possibility that that has made the currently available AE version non-functional.

[MonVert]

13 minutes ago, Someone92 said:

Also the AE version has been updated a few weeks ago. There is the possibility that that has made the currently available AE version non-functional.

 

???

 

It was posted in August, and doesn't work with the current version.

[Someone92]

Skyrim AE was last updated in September, and SKSE was updated as well.
I have no idea if the current AE .dll file is still compatible with the new SKSE version. That's something that needs to be tested, or clarified by Scrab.

[MonVert]

On 10/18/2022 at 4:54 AM, Someone92 said:

Skyrim AE was last updated in September, and SKSE was updated as well.
I have no idea if the current AE .dll file is still compatible with the new SKSE version. That's something that needs to be tested, or clarified by Scrab.

 

It's not compatible.

[Lockshockbear43]

Does anyone know how or if this can work for a custom/added race? 

 

I added the Nymph Girls race and whenever I enter bleedout, I lay there for a few moments, get up, and then either die (if I don't have enough health regen) or nothing happens. 

 

Edit: I re-ran SL Animation Loader and that seemed to fix it! I feel silly ?

Edited October 23, 2022 by Lockshockbear43

[draconon97]

Anyone know any work arounds to get this to work with 1.6.626? Grabed the AE DLL but yeah its not working, or shall I simply have to wait for an update?

[Someone92]

You will have to wait until Scrab returns and updates the .dll.

They said to have issues with their internet, which is probably why they haven't been around in a while.

[Someone92]

On 10/17/2022 at 10:50 AM, Someone92 said:

Make sure you use the right version.

There is one for se (game version 1.5) and ae (game version 1.6). Also afaik the mod doesn't work with Le, VR and gog.

Also, the most recent version of AE is not supported.

[CRimes5039]

Mod works for me. Any way to set it up so that only the player can defeat NPCs?

[Someone92]

U think the mcm page was called filters.

Disable all NPCs in being interested in the PC or other NPCs.

[LordDrakath15226]

Any way to make it so that the PAHE menu doesn't appear together with this mod's menu when interacting with a defeated enemy?

[Guest]

I’m kinda at my wits end. I can’t seem to get NPC’s to enter the subdued state. I’m running a rolled back version of SE to 1.5.97. Running all the proper supporting mods. I’ve tried multiple different mods such as defeat sse and submit but can’t get any of them to cause the subdued state.

 

I know the mod is active and working because I can choose to manually assault nonhostile NPC’s but I always get lethal kills in combat.

[Someone92]

When you rolled back to 1.5, did you also installed the SKSE version for 1.5?

[Guest]

Yes I am currently running SKSE 2.0.20

[shanktorias5]

On 8/29/2022 at 3:01 PM, Scrab said:

For multi menu when activating targets:

YameteKudasai.esp 160.44 kB · 73 downloads

 

Ima be straight, I got no clue how exactly this activation perk works. I thought adding up priority would make it disable all other menues, but apparently thats not the case

I now set priority to 0 and it seems that its now being overridden by other mods. If that still causes issues I will likely no longer set Actors into bleedout on defeat, that should prevent majority of these "doule popups" from happening

This isnt working for me. When an npc is on bleedout state, both pahe and this mods ui activates. Every time i need to do something to an npc i have to click this mods option then select cancel on pahe.

 

Is there any workaround for this?

[Enli]

So, what would be a good reason to use this over SL Defeat? Genuinely curious, as improvements are always good, but the only change I can see right now is that you can prevent death entirely and the description doesn't mention which consequences exist for the PC, whereas SL Defeat will result in sexual assault unless settings are changed and you can also end up with Simple Slavery after the scenes are over. (among other options)

Edited October 29, 2022 by Enli

[no_way]

Love the mod so far, two issues with testing have come up:

 

1)  What does "Quit chance" do?  I was hoping it was the chance that a given aggressor would not come in for a second round but this doesnt seem to work.  For example if I want to have max X sequential rapes as a consequence, but if I get knocked down by only Y<X NPCs and dont want to have NPCs take a repeat turn, is there any way to set it up so that it does the lesser of X max rapes and Y aggressors?

 

2)  Does YT as currently coded not have the ability to bail out to animations that use less actors if not enough are present?  For example, I have animations for chaurus vs PC and 2 chaurus vs PC, but if I leave the default settings then if it selects 3P, 4P, or 5P scene I get the "failed to create scene" error rather than it simply selecting another animation with less actors.  Any way this can be changed to have the bailout?  Cause I like many people have animation libraries with varying amounts of gangbang depending on the race so I don't want to set it to 0 chance of having 5P or 4P to get around this failed scene creation.

 

 

[Someone92]

On 10/29/2022 at 5:25 PM, Enli said:

So, what would be a good reason to use this over SL Defeat?

(Practically) real time tracking of lethal damage.

The OnHit function can take up a few seconds to resolve, which made it necessary for previous Defeat mods to use workaround and failsaves. YK tracks lethal damage outside the usual Skyrim script engine, making it much faster and thus forgoes the need for workarounds and failsaves.

 

Iirc so far the outcomes are Assault, Robbery and Blackout (wake up at a nearby location), but more outcomes can be added by other modders. Don't know if Scrab plans to add more outcomes, but all other Defeat mod authors should make YK a requirement and use it to trigger defeats.

 

12 hours ago, no_way said:

Does YT as currently coded not have the ability to bail out to animations that use less actors if not enough are present?

Hm, I think in previous versions the Validation.yaml in the SKSE folder explained how YK works (used to work?).

Iirc if no animation is found with the current actors, it first removes a creature (futa > female > male if the previous was not in the animation) from the animation and searches again. If it still not find an animation with the fewer number of actors it repeats.

 

Have you enabled creatures in YK, have you enabled creatures in SexLab, and might you have enabled "Restrict aggressive animations" (or something link that) in SexLab, and your creature animations are not tagged aggressive?

[LordDrakath15226]

Again: Is there any way to stop PAHE's option from popping up when activating a defeated enemy?

[no_way]

2 hours ago, Someone92 said:

(Practically) real time tracking of lethal damage.

The OnHit function can take up a few seconds to resolve, which made it necessary for previous Defeat mods to use workaround and failsaves. YK tracks lethal damage outside the usual Skyrim script engine, making it much faster and thus forgoes the need for workarounds and failsaves.

 

Iirc so far the outcomes are Assault, Robbery and Blackout (wake up at a nearby location), but more outcomes can be added by other modders. Don't know if Scrab plans to add more outcomes, but all other Defeat mod authors should make YK a requirement and use it to trigger defeats.

 

Hm, I think in previous versions the Validation.yaml in the SKSE folder explained how YK works (used to work?).

Iirc if no animation is found with the current actors, it first removes a creature (futa > female > male if the previous was not in the animation) from the animation and searches again. If it still not find an animation with the fewer number of actors it repeats.

 

Have you enabled creatures in YK, have you enabled creatures in SexLab, and might you have enabled "Restrict aggressive animations" (or something link that) in SexLab, and your creature animations are not tagged aggressive?

Yes all creature animations work fine in all context other than YK.  And the issue seems to disappear if I set the possibility of 5P, 4P, 3P to zero which makes me suspicious it gives up or cant get down to an anim with a # of actors that works.  Because if I for example surround myself with 10 chaurus and get defeated, on the default settings I'd say it "failed to create scene" about 30% of the time despite my having tooooons of 1C vs PC and 2C vs PC animations installed.

 

I could post my sexlab debug papyrus log if you are able to understand the function calls?

Edited October 31, 2022 by no_way

[Mister X]

Small question: is it possible for the YK .dll plugin to be converted to CommonLib-NG?

If that's not too much work, it would make the mod independent from the Skyrim version