RockMic Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 The problem is that when you're a aggessore your teammates will kill the victim,
azmodan22 Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 Actually I like when Im being raped and my followers saves me. It became part of the gameplay and is realistical... An horny bandit boss instead of dropping the killing blow on you or your friend, jumps on you, tears you dress apart and start to abuse... but before he can climax your trusty follower raises back and kill the bastard...You followers were to be involved could lead to even more interesting and new game mechanics. You can bring around a scanty dressed follower and use her just as a bait. While one of the bad (?) guy is distracted abusing her you kill all the others bandits and then go back and plant a sword in his back right at the moment he's coming... What's not realistic though is the rapist getting all ready and comfy for some steamy action while your follower has a hot blade and is running right at the aggressor... I mean that's taking the already silly AI to a whole new level I agree there should be a way for the enemies to get the followers before they start raping; Sanguine's Debauchery does this pretty well. Player gets knocked down, enemy is off to chase the follower. Once the follower is down, only then will things really get ugly. All of that said though, mod works like a charm for me and I'm not really a follower person myself. Moreover, if you -are- a follower person, it's probably not the best idea to install mods such as this if you're gonna run around with powerful followers, it kind of defeats the purpose... no pun intended. 10/10 for the port from SexiS and even (if I'm not mistaken) introducing new features that not only make a lot of sense, but are great and working pretty well Keep it up! EDIT: Actually, one tiny little quirk to add, that doesn't even bother me since I use UFO (I believe this is where the option comes from) and I can tell NPCs to dress themselves, but: -When I break into someone's house to rape them, everything goes well up until the end where the NPC will not re-equip their clothes fully. However, this raises a little suspicion as to the cause, because it seems SexLab is being a little quirky in it of itself when it comes to equip and unequip items. More to the point, I suspect it's somehow related to how many slots you are telling SexLab to unequip; perhaps making SexLab only unequip common equipment items/slots instead of going for the "quick and easy" route and telling it to just unequip every possible slot -may- be the way to go. I'll test this theory when I get back in the game later today You do have a point and I have to admit that the follower kiling the raper does indeed make more sense that just staring around. Me for example, I have a follower mainly as a pack mule, She is the same lvl as the player so she can not be considered overpowered. However my point is: In one occasion she (the follower) attacked the "bad guy" first, lost the battle, went into bleeding animation, and then the bad guy defeats and rapes the player. At that point the follower kills the raper... So, at that scenario, there where 2 male enemies, 2 females on player team. Both females get defeated....and both males die having barely "touched" the player. Thats not realistic. A good way would be to involve the follower too, or maybe make the follower stay in bleeding animation until the rape is finished. As it is now, All you need to do is just go in the middle of countles enemies, wait untill the first one defeats you, then they line up to rape the player and the follower jsut finishes them all off one by one.. And of course the problem when the player is the aggressor, and the follower kills the victim.
Aldebaraan Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 can u make that only animations tagged as agressive in the framework would be used? as for me it uses any animation active, and its weird to play a foreplay animationg while being raped.
azmodan22 Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 I havent noticed something like that in my game But I have not used this mod a lot yet. Just make sure that the aggresive animation are enabled in the Sexlab menu. In the first page I think it has something like "allow aggresive animations"..
aljustineg Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 im using SOS but the problem is when ever i got rape the rapist never remove their brief
Goubo Posted June 20, 2013 Author Posted June 20, 2013 The mod uses aggressives animation, look at your settings in SexLab as Azmodan said. As for the follower problem, I do want to do somthing about that (I'm often with a follower myself) but remember the player as victim part is not my code and modifying it will not be easy as it was not intended to handle followers. But I will certainly try to do something, the perfect scenario would be when player enter in bleedout state if there is a follower with him aggressors would defeat the follower first but whow no promises here. For now I'm trying to fix things and refine the code I'll see after, thanks for your feedbacks.
CGi Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 How about the follower just gives up, as the player is already down and (roleplaying a bit) threatened by the aggressor. Leading to Auto Follower Enslavement. Everything else would be very complicated and could very likely screw up the ai. Easier the free the follower of all packages and add your own. And if there are more than 2 followers, let there be war. Auto enslavement already takes away a bit of immersion, so more than 2 follower giving up, would be kinda weird. This would very likely lead to the idea of having different behaviour for different followers, like huscarl, hired mercs and mages. Maybe even gender specific (as well). But that's something for the future.
Damicles Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 Hi just tried out you mod very good apart from some alignment issues. As for the follower issue they should be beaten to the ground like you and then suffer the same fate or if they is 3 or more bandits they should just surrender and then suffer the same fate. But looking good so far.
purocatracho Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 Very promising mod indeed, it got some odd bugs at times but works as intended.
MonaBabii Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 Okay so, in regards to my original post's edit, involving the little re-dressing quirk: I have tried making it so SexLab doesn't unequip any item/slot except for the main armor, for aggressive encounters, which would be the slot that basically makes NPCs naked, and even then by the end of the act they won't re-equip their clothes/armor. Thought it may have been SexLab itself being quirky but no Maybe the ending code in the Player-Aggressor sleeping-rape part needs just a tiny revisit. Either way, great mod @Goubo: In regards to the follower problem, yeah I can see how modifying the code from someone else could be even more tedious, though don't get us wrong everyone here having the follower "problem" is still enjoying the mod very much so, myself included, and it's not something that's super urgent If you'd prefer to polish the mod as much as you can before addressing that, by all means Good luck and kudos!
aravis7 Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 I've started a new char and now I always have "sex start fail: 1" message...
azmodan22 Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 I have a suspision that the Sexlab hot keys do not work with this mod. At least the realign actors doesnt. Another think I have noticed is that my charachter is stuck with the "being raped" effect. A very bad and very common problem with the sexis variant. Is that intended or should the effect be "raped"?
Ranu Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Nice mod, i like it. Perhaps the resist rate for the enemies must be lowered or deleted. Mostly of victims resists permanently.
visby Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 I have a suspision that the Sexlab hot keys do not work with this mod. At least the realign actors doesnt. Another think I have noticed is that my charachter is stuck with the "being raped" effect. A very bad and very common problem with the sexis variant. Is that intended or should the effect be "raped"? I'm having the same issue with defeat and a couple of other sexlab mods. Alignment does work for Romance though so I don't think it's my installation. I have what seems like a simple solution for the follower messing up rape scene. What if you simply dismiss the follower when the player gets raped. This would make sense from a role play perspective in that the follower sees their master defeated and so runs for home. Great mod by the way thank you for making it.
Ranu Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 I have a suspision that the Sexlab hot keys do not work with this mod. At least the realign actors doesnt. Another think I have noticed is that my charachter is stuck with the "being raped" effect. A very bad and very common problem with the sexis variant. Is that intended or should the effect be "raped"? Unchecking Disable victim controls in the animation settings from SexLab menu works good for me. Some animations are simply not aligned correctly, you should generally clear.
Goubo Posted June 21, 2013 Author Posted June 21, 2013 Nice mod, i like it. Perhaps the resist rate for the enemies must be lowered or deleted. Mostly of victims resists permanently. I'll will rewrite the description for the new version cause apparently it is not clear. For the combat rape the slider health is the only thing that could make npc resists and when your are behind your victim you have 100% succes chance. As for the sneak rape, you must be behind your victim, if the victim sees you she will resist and send the alarm (optional in the next version).
Ranu Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Thx for answer. I'll try the same again, the slider is at 20%, but even crawling NPC resisted as much. Edit: Next try (rape & knockdown): Slider set 50%, opponents resist until they are dead. Edit 2: I have found the error. The menu is only when I change to unarmed combat. Otherwise, the menu is only in the sneak.
aravis7 Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 I've started a new char and now I always have "sex start fail: 1" message... Do you know what's causing this?
DeepBlueFrog Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 Speaking of changing descriptions, there is a typo between aggressor and victom in the descriptions of the MCM options (the victim area has a description about being the aggressor and vice versa). I tried the mod for a while but I had to revert back to the simple attack mod I was using as it didn't seem to work well with Sanguine Debauchery. I will revisit it again later when I have more time to troubleshoot what went wrong.
akroma3310 Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 The problem I'm having is with location, I can't adjust the animations for some reason so they are always several feet away humping air.
DeepBlueFrog Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 One second thought, a small request to make this mod compatible with 'alternative to death' mods like Sanguine Debauchery. Would you consider adding a lower limit under which the mod would no longer check for hits? This would allow to set alternative death mods to say 0 or 5% health and have this mod work between 10% and 40% of health..
Zergmax Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 can not move around the chamber only up and down Help plz
Goubo Posted June 21, 2013 Author Posted June 21, 2013 Thx for answer. I'll try the same again, the slider is at 20%, but even crawling NPC resisted as much. Edit: Next try (rape & knockdown): Slider set 50%, opponents resist until they are dead. Edit 2: I have found the error. The menu is only when I change to unarmed combat. Otherwise, the menu is only in the sneak. Are you sure your using the 1.1 version ? I've started a new char and now I always have "sex start fail: 1" message... Do you know what's causing this? Nop I don't know, did you try "Clean up" in MCM ? I'll test with a new char. The problem I'm having is with location, I can't adjust the animations for some reason so they are always several feet away humping air. There is a hotkey to replace the two actors in th framework, works good, sometimes one of the actor moves away all of the sudden, I'm not sure where this come from so you all really should just use Collision and victim controls of the framework. One second thought, a small request to make this mod compatible with 'alternative to death' mods like Sanguine Debauchery. Would you consider adding a lower limit under which the mod would no longer check for hits? This would allow to set alternative death mods to say 0 or 5% health and have this mod work between 10% and 40% of health.. I guess that's doable, will see.
Chagrin Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 I thought it was obvious, but for anyone having alignment problems and not being able to use the hotkeys, uncheck the box labeled "Victims lose control" or whatever it was in the original SexLab MCM menu. That should allow you to use the hotkeys, including changing the animation. And anyone who complains this breaks "immersion," well, alignment issues break immersion the most in my opinion.
Demonwise Posted June 22, 2013 Posted June 22, 2013 Soooo, I tested this out and found a few weird things about it that are breaking my game. When my character gets knocked down and begins to be raped the other npcs in the area will continue to attack me and well, without immortal mode toggled my character would die well before she even finished being raped. The other thing that I have noticed is that it is causing some glitching with the player controls. I knocked down and raped an enemy and after completing the sex scene my character stood up and I couldn't move her. Using the command 'enableplayercontrols' allows me to move around but I can't interact with anything or engaged in combat. So far the only fix for when this happens is to completely exit out of the game and restart it. Just reloading from a checkpoint won't fix it. This all being said I very much doubt that this mod is conflicting with another because virtually all the mods that I currently have installed are either character generation mods and mods required for the SexLab framework.
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