[WIP][Coming Soon] SexLab - Sex Animation Framework

[shane4244]

Most of what you said will have to be done by the mod makers and I don't see why any of it could not be done.

 

I would also like ot see sex sounds seperate from The FX folder but I have no idea what would be involved in something like that but thats a great idea i would like to see Asal do if possible.

 

I could be completely wrong about this and I know I'm probably not wording it correctly but I believe you have ot put the actors in a "Rag Doll" state to make them do there animations so they don't go back to there ai packages or something like that. So no matter what the framework I think that will always be the case both FNV and oblivion still do that and they have been out a while.

[theqmann]

I like the idea of making the framework separate animations and sounds to some extent.  That way a modder could tie existing animations to new sounds easily.

 

Also, some built in error checking to validate that inputs are valid and that the actual requested animation still exists and is valid. (Also new to Papyrus, but not to programming)

 

One more, making it so that if a user deletes the mod files that all running scripts will self-exit without crazy uninstall mods or dangling effects attached to actors that self-propagate forever.

[FVHrc0E]

Just AMAZING. Am looking forward to using "SexLab". (Hope your imagination does not exceed your programming skills. Your description exceeds anything that I have fantasized).  Do you have a way to avoid the various items and structures within a given cell. When using Cupid's bow on NPCs, they start the animation anywhere, under chairs, behind bookcases, etc. I can't imagine where five NPCs will get to once the action starts. Is it possible to create markers within a cell to start the action in an open space, something like "Sit Anywhere by tilokan1337" [http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/23179]?  Is there a solution to this problem already available?

[shane4244]

I like the idea of making the framework separate animations and sounds to some extent.  That way a modder could tie existing animations to new sounds easily.

 

Also, some built in error checking to validate that inputs are valid and that the actual requested animation still exists and is valid. (Also new to Papyrus, but not to programming)

 

 

I was referring to how the sound is handled in game personally I prefer just using the default sex sounds for anything in a mod I'm making (I'm lazy)

the reason I would like it to be seperate from the FX in game is so I could have my sound FX turned up the way I like it but not wake up the niegbors with the sex sounds just some way to adjust the sex volume seperate from everything else.

[Koko.Hekmatyar]

This sounds very promising! 

 

You mentioned animations could have up to 10 sequences, but will we ever see an improvement (or alternative) over the finishing "rag doll" end sequence? 

 

And will there be a custom volume control for adjusting PC or NPC voices? Most, if not all sex mods so far have NPC voice volumes attached to the game's "Effects" volume setting. In my game this makes things too loud if I don't sacrifice or lower my FX volume, or optimize the sound files themselves. 

 

 

Adding to the lust idea.. what about an attraction system? Where a character's attractiveness is based on how many times they were successful on wooing and satisfying a potential partner?  Maybe create a new skill called "Seduction" and have it level up each time the player character gains a successful encounter? The skill tree can have its perks, like being able to perform threesomes or group orgies at a higher level, unlocking unique/bizzare animation, or turning anyone on / or raise their arousal level higher by just simply entering the room.

 

If its possible maybe we can have a skill on the darker side too.. If we can tag and separate normal =/= forced animations. Rape can have its own category and skill called "Maniac". Raping anyone in public is a crime obviously. Maybe set up a system where  a target can be lured or "tricked" into following the player character (through dialog) away from anyone's sight. The higher this skill is the better chance you have of the target following you without causing suspicion. Skill perks can involve unlocking group rape? (maybe?), unlocking a perk where someone who sees you might actually ask to join in.. More unique animations and allowing use of gags or binds? 

With regards to the loudness of the voices Sound Propagation Overhaul can fix that it adds a lot of customization to the games audio panel allowing you to adjust voice, footsteps etc etc.

[scepth]

With regards to the loudness of the voices Sound Propagation Overhaul can fix that it adds a lot of customization to the games audio panel allowing you to adjust voice, footsteps etc etc.

 

Tried that mod already but I think it just overemphasizes sound effects too much. I tried adjusting and mixing it up and ended up uninstalling it after 2 hours of playing with it. I know some people like it, not my cup of tea though.

[Stormsone]

Is there any support for adding sounds?Its nice to have multiple voices like lovers has.

[Kamen Rider Kuuga]

I'll wait until some really amazing mods come out before I switch from SexiS, especially if some sort of lust system is involved.

 

Never liked the idea of some kind of built in lust system; I use these mods to have fun when I feel like it. A lust system just feels like forcing me to go through sex animations because my character suddenly got horny enough and had to have sex.

[Tepi]

I'll wait until some really amazing mods come out before I switch from SexiS, especially if some sort of lust system is involved.

 

Never liked the idea of some kind of built in lust system; I use these mods to have fun when I feel like it. A lust system just feels like forcing me to go through sex animations because my character suddenly got horny enough and had to have sex.

 

 

While that is very true, it would be good to have the lust system integrated into the framework, so it would work properly with all the other mods. Even if it would be part of the main esm/esp, it could always have a MCM setting to toggle it on/off. It just makes a one sad panda when you want to use it and something conflicts with the another plugin. Such has happened in Sexout a few times.

[WaxenFigure]

It needs a way to register for callbacks at the completion of a sex scene which could be used by a "lust" mod, a pregnancy mod and/or a STD mod.  That way those mods could be hooked into the base instead of being built into specific sex mods.
 

The message back should indicate the type of sex (shouldn't get pregnant if the sex was oral, anal or manual somehow) and yes with a Futa girl but no if they used a strapon.

[torn]

Hello. Will your mod be free camera? Sex with creatures? Changes in facial expressions during sex?

[sammythesquirrel]

Hello. Will your mod be free camera? Sex with creatures? Changes in facial expressions during sex?

its a frame work hun it wont feature any sex or anything like that on its own . its purpose is to make it easy(well easier) for modders to make plugins that will have those features.

[Suludi]

Looks good so far.

 

As for the ragdoll problem, I think standing up should simply be part of the animation sequence, just like kneeling/laying down together. This would get rid of the problem. I mean, hugfuck (what a nasty word) is the most intimate and gentle sex act between lovers (I just don't see it as rape), but the end is always horrible, catapulting the actors into walls and landscapes. I tend to avoid this animation by now which is a pity, really.

[Mike4doa]

Thx. and great job. Keep at it!!

 

Many modders out there will have to try and adjust theis plugins to the frame work, but hopefully that won't be too difficult for them.

A good frame work also helps in overlapping features.

For instance the Defeated plugin and Loverscomfort plugin from Sexis are overlapping in their rape option. Though not intended the defeated plugin usus some scripts from the other. Like or no like it does.

But with some decent planning and given the feature presented here I think the modders will be able to do some very nice things here.

Looking forward to it.

[NicoleDragoness]

Well, I'm using from ages the "Realistic Ragdoll Force" mod (search on Nexus) and I never experienced problems at the end of sex. My actors simply fall down one near the other (often, one ON the other) and then they slowly stand up easily.

I use also the XPMS skeleton and this could be another due for my good way.

[dboura]

Ashal, one thing I noticed with the SexiS addons, is that a lot of times the sex is started on uneven terrains setting the animations off. Is there a way your framework will be able to provide a better set of alignment hotkeys, Similar to the ones SD set-up. Where you can adjust forward-backward, up-down, side-side.

[sammythesquirrel]

 

Ashal, one thing I noticed with the SexiS addons, is that a lot of times the sex is started on uneven terrains setting the animations off. Is there a way your framework will be able to provide a better set of alignment hotkeys, Similar to the ones SD set-up. Where you can adjust forward-backward, up-down, side-side.

ashal states in the first post that you can :

 

• Aside from typical forward/backward adjustment for actors; you can swap positions within the animation with other actors, rotate between animation sets on the fly, and adjust NPC's (not the player) up and down

 

[dboura]

Ahh thanks sammy overlooked that part

[GECK.O]

 

Some of you may have heard I'm working on a new fully featured sex mod for Skyrim, which I'm now nearing completion on. I've tentatively named it SexLab.

 

Since I'm close to releasing, aka within a couple days, I thought it might be a good idea to start soliciting ideas and requests from the community in what they'd like to see as far as a sex mod goes. Keep in mind this is a framework for other modders to start/stop sex animations, much like Sexout and Lovers with PK for Fallout and Oblivion respectively, not an actual sex mod, so suggestions like "Start sex from dialog!" will fall on deaf ears as it is outside the scope of what the mod is, though I do appreciate some simple example mod ideas I could throw together for release, much akin to defeated/cupid for sexis. I was leaning towards a "lust" mod that tracks and rates your escapades as the initial example mod to release with SexLab though for whatever that's worth. Modders interested in starting or are currently maintaining a plugin I'm especially interested in hearing from to get an idea of their needs and wants are in a sex framework.

 

Current notable feature set is as follows:

• 1-5 actors per animation set with a current max of 10 animation sequences, for a max of 50 actors animating at once, will ship with a 3 person and solo masturbation animation example mod
• Animations sets can have as many stages as they want
• Modders can set an animation to force a user to equip certain items of their choice
• Can easily include NON sexual animations, which will not strip the actors naked, loop moaning noises, etc, etc.
• Full MCM support
• Easy and fully documented API for modders to add new animation sets, voices, and start animations
• Users can toggle on/off animations they don't like
• Aside from typical forward/backward adjustment for actors; you can swap positions within the animation with other actors, rotate between animation sets on the fly, and adjust NPC's (not the player) up and down
• All of Arroks current animations included separate from the current MLA animations

 

SUPER AWESOME...!!!

 

I love the 5 actors per animationa and 10 animation sequences. Someone should make a sex party in Dragonreach. Can it also have ability to switch sex partner randomly in the middle of sex scene? With random sex animation after change partner. It will became a great sex party.

 

Can you also add build-in Lust and Arousal system too?

 

Or even a pregnancy and menstruation cycle as well?

 

You should make it as simple and as efficient as possible, to prevent slowdown.

 

 

I also have a suggestion. When I play SexiS with RandomAttack, I need to wait a sex scene end first before I proceeding to another room. Or there will be animation or script stuck problem. I hope you consider to make a problem-free sex scene, with some kind of automatic reset when changing room and something when a sex scene is interrupted.

[Jimjim117]

Just Interested on how controlling the alignments of several different npcs works when you have 2+npcs in the animation. Do they move in unison or can you individually move them? If you can, how does it work?

[theqmann]

As for the ragdoll problem, I think standing up should simply be part of the animation sequence, just like kneeling/laying down together. This would get rid of the problem. I mean, hugfuck (what a nasty word) is the most intimate and gentle sex act between lovers (I just don't see it as rape), but the end is always horrible, catapulting the actors into walls and landscapes. I tend to avoid this animation by now which is a pity, really.

 

This.  Make a 6th animation that has the actors returning to a regular standing position.

[FinalCloud]

This sounds pretty damn awesome!

[MasterAaran]

As someone that's only really begun to try modding for Skyrim (I'm ambitious to a fault but tend to fall flat on my face trying stuff, I'm starting off with small modifications or things to current mods), I can't offer too much in the way of suggestions from a modding standpoint.

 

From a user/player standpoint though, I would like to see a few things:

 

1. If a lust system is in the works, please don't make it too glaring or 'forced'....I would like it to feel natural, i.e.: If you're around your spouse or a companion for a certain amount of time, or they are around you, it becomes easier to sex them up when you want.

 

1a. An addition to this would be a 'journal' type of book that keeps track of your exploits in the world of skyrim, how many times had sex, what positions, etc...

 

2. 'Favored' partners, as in....you don't rape your spouse...you're friggin married to them, you don't need to rape them. Followers could go either way, though I would lean toward the longer they are your follower, or the more times you rape them, the less likely it would be to be seen as rape. (maybe that sort of thing has to be done by a modder designing a plugin for it... )

 

3. For Modders that will be using Ashal's work as a base, PLEASE make it possible to do things like Hug/Kiss your spouse or SO... there are times when one of my characters just wants to walk in the house and give Aela a kiss and a hug...or after a tough fight. I've looked and I can't find much in the way of this kind of thing... foreplay/fondling/generic animations are lacking it seems... if I missed something let me know. ((I did see that the the 'lovers comfort' or 'MaritalBliss' mod for sexis supposedly lets you hug them... but I'm wary of trying to even load sexis in.... and Ashal's looks so much more promising))

 

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I guess what I'm making a point of here is that I would be very interested in 'non rape' sex as well as 'rape' sex. I play multiple Characters in skyrim and the evil ones would rape without issue, even have slaves.... but my good character only wants to get it on with his spouse, and is finding it hard to find anything that will let him do something so simple ....

 

So that's my two cents....

[GECK.O]

 

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3. For Modders that will be using Ashal's work as a base, PLEASE make it possible to do things like Hug/Kiss your spouse or SO... there are times when one of my characters just wants to walk in the house and give Aela a kiss and a hug...or after a tough fight. I've looked and I can't find much in the way of this kind of thing... foreplay/fondling/generic animations are lacking it seems... if I missed something let me know. ((I did see that the the 'lovers comfort' or 'MaritalBliss' mod for sexis supposedly lets you hug them... but I'm wary of trying to even load sexis in.... and Ashal's looks so much more promising))

 

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Agree Agree Agree!!!

 

Beside of lust and arousal...we should add a new one, Love or Passion!

 

It's the opposite of rape. You must kiss, hug, give gift, romantic sex, etc...to increase the love meter.

 

If someone made bathing animation, we can do bath together in the river or lake. Just go to the water and activate bath together. It will increase the love meter. An orgy bath is a good idea too, with all the followers (and ended with an orgy sex).

 

We should add softcore version of SexiS RandomSex, it's called as RandomLove, where NPC or follower will randomly say I love you, hug and kiss you. Or even surprise you by sudden wearing sexy lingerie for Lover's Comfort.

[lordofthedread]

 

 

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3. For Modders that will be using Ashal's work as a base, PLEASE make it possible to do things like Hug/Kiss your spouse or SO... there are times when one of my characters just wants to walk in the house and give Aela a kiss and a hug...or after a tough fight. I've looked and I can't find much in the way of this kind of thing... foreplay/fondling/generic animations are lacking it seems... if I missed something let me know. ((I did see that the the 'lovers comfort' or 'MaritalBliss' mod for sexis supposedly lets you hug them... but I'm wary of trying to even load sexis in.... and Ashal's looks so much more promising))

 

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Agree Agree Agree!!!

 

Beside of lust and arousal...we should add a new one, Love or Passion!

 

It's the opposite of rape. You must kiss, hug, give gift, romantic sex, etc...to increase the love meter.

 

If someone made bathing animation, we can do bath together in the river or lake. Just go to the water and activate bath together. It will increase the love meter. An orgy bath is a good idea too, with all the followers (and ended with an orgy sex).

 

We should add softcore version of SexiS RandomSex, it's called as RandomLove, where NPC or follower will randomly say I love you, hug and kiss you. Or even surprise you by sudden wearing sexy lingerie for Lover's Comfort.

 

How can I argue with that?