Prison Overhaul

[xaz]

Updated

 

* Prisoners are equipped with collars which prevent fast travel, wait and sleep. Time is instead accelerated when in the pillory or the cell.

* Any npc can whip prisoners for a small fee.

* Dialogue is back. If you install Fuz, you can enable it by setting "xpoEnableDialogue" to 1. It defaults to 0 (dialogue off).

* Prisoners may be gagged in the pillory.

* Jailer gender is now random. Specific genders can be choosen by setting "xpoJailerSelection" to 1 for male 2 for female, or 0 for random (default).

[aryaankhan123]

guard wont take me to jail they just keeps attacking when crimes are major or serious   HELP ?

[aljustineg]

Updated

 

* Prisoners are equipped with collars which prevent fast travel, wait and sleep. Time is instead accelerated when in the pillory or the cell.

* Any npc can whip prisoners for a small fee.

* Dialogue is back. If you install Fuz, you can enable it by setting "xpoEnableDialogue" to 1. It defaults to 0 (dialogue off).

* Prisoners may be gagged in the pillory.

* Jailer gender is now random. Specific genders can be choosen by setting "xpoJailerSelection" to 1 for male 2 for female, or 0 for random (default).

do i still have to use the console queststop and queststart xpomain? to update

[xaz]

 

Updated

 

* Prisoners are equipped with collars which prevent fast travel, wait and sleep. Time is instead accelerated when in the pillory or the cell.

* Any npc can whip prisoners for a small fee.

* Dialogue is back. If you install Fuz, you can enable it by setting "xpoEnableDialogue" to 1. It defaults to 0 (dialogue off).

* Prisoners may be gagged in the pillory.

* Jailer gender is now random. Specific genders can be choosen by setting "xpoJailerSelection" to 1 for male 2 for female, or 0 for random (default).

do i still have to use the console queststop and queststart xpomain? to update

 

Hopefully not, but try it if things don't work.

[jagdiv]

I installed v014,and when I load my save,it always show "zap 100 detected,expected zaz 005",and I cant play at all.

[jagdiv]

I 'd uninstalled v014,went back to v012,no such problem.

Then I reinstalled v014,that window showed again  ,I couldn't close it at all

[bjornk]

Updated

 

* Prisoners are equipped with collars which prevent fast travel, wait and sleep. Time is instead accelerated when in the pillory or the cell.

If you're doing this by changing the timescale, that's not a very good idea unless the change is minor, like taking it from 20 to 40 etc. Setting the timescale value too high/low causes weird glitches in the game.

 

[xaz]

 

Updated

 

* Prisoners are equipped with collars which prevent fast travel, wait and sleep. Time is instead accelerated when in the pillory or the cell.

If you're doing this by changing the timescale, that's not a very good idea unless the change is minor, like taking it from 20 to 40 etc. Setting the timescale value too high/low causes weird glitches in the game.

 

Setting it to 60, so far I've not seen anything in my game. It's anyway easily "disabled" by setting it back manually. The collar can be unequipped from the console and so on.

[bjornk]

60 is okay I think. I've once set it to 40000 and then when I set it back to default the sky dome started ticking like a clock. Although it was fun to watch it rotate like crazy.

[xaz]

I 'd uninstalled v014,went back to v012,no such problem.

Then I reinstalled v014,that window showed again  ,I couldn't close it at all

It's just a message box. Lots of mods use those. If you can't close it, that's a separate problem.

[Ellewah]

I love what you added in the last version, I have some points i'd like to say.

 

I got caught around 11 AM and was thrown to jail, one hour later the jailer came and took me to the city and mounted me on the pillory then every hour later on until 9 PM he came and whipped me, now the issue I have with this is that after each whipping session he goes away and then comes back after one hour for the next one but the time he takes to actually reach me is too long, and I had to live that 9 times! So maybe you could make him stand next to the PC instead of going and coming back everytime?

 

Second thing is in Solitude prison the jailer kinda blocks the entrance to the cell and I have to wait till the game "teleports" me inside.

 

Lastly if you could add "pain" screams during the whipping that would be an instant win!

 

Cheers mate!

[ukiaiko]

I love what you added in the last version, I have some points i'd like to say.

 

I got caught around 11 AM and was thrown to jail, one hour later the jailer came and took me to the city and mounted me on the pillory then every hour later on until 9 PM he came and whipped me, now the issue I have with this is that after each whipping session he goes away and then comes back after one hour for the next one but the time he takes to actually reach me is too long, and I had to live that 9 times! So maybe you could make him stand next to the PC instead of going and coming back everytime?

 

Second thing is in Solitude prison the jailer kinda blocks the entrance to the cell and I have to wait till the game "teleports" me inside.

 

Lastly if you could add "pain" screams during the whipping that would be an instant win!

 

Cheers mate!

 

In my case, the jailer just stand beside me, and each hour He/She whipped me.

BTW, The male jailer has a darker face than his body, but the female one is perfect!!

[aryaankhan123]

help please when my crimes are major or serious and guard caught me i chose "take me to jail" then guards just keeps attacking while im cuffed and gagged they wont take me to jail.

[edwardmoors]

I like the new updates, well done.

 

So here are a few things you might or might not know about:

 

I started with punching a guard in the nuts, so I was thrown in jail for the inappropriate behaviour. It was fine, everything was great until the jailer decided to take me outside. Just after leaving dragonsreach dungeon, she just kept standing there, near the door. She was doing nothing. As if she was stuck. eventually i reloaded the game, cause it took way more time than it should have. So I did it again, found myself in the prison again. The same bug happened near the door but this time after like a minute or so she decided to move on.

 

Then the stairs. The jailer seems to have a hard time climbing them. From the jail to the pillory she stopped like 5 times for 1-2 mins each, without any reason.

 

Now here I'll start by saying I like how other NPCs can whip you for a mere 5 gold, It's great. However I noticed every time it happens, the jailer decides to head back (probably to the dungeon, but I'm not sure as I lose sight after a while) and once the NPC is done, you just stay there on your own, and have to wait until the jailer walks back to you.

 

All this was tested in Whiterun.

 

Keep up the great work, cheers.

[ukiaiko]

I like the new updates, well done.

 

So here are a few things you might or might not know about:

 

I started with punching a guard in the nuts, so I was thrown in jail for the inappropriate behaviour. It was fine, everything was great until the jailer decided to take me outside. Just after leaving dragonsreach dungeon, she just kept standing there, near the door. She was doing nothing. As if she was stuck. eventually i reloaded the game, cause it took way more time than it should have. So I did it again, found myself in the prison again. The same bug happened near the door but this time after like a minute or so she decided to move on.

 

Then the stairs. The jailer seems to have a hard time climbing them. From the jail to the pillory she stopped like 5 times for 1-2 mins each, without any reason.

 

Now here I'll start by saying I like how other NPCs can whip you for a mere 5 gold, It's great. However I noticed every time it happens, the jailer decides to head back (probably to the dungeon, but I'm not sure as I lose sight after a while) and once the NPC is done, you just stay there on your own, and have to wait until the jailer walks back to you.

 

All this was tested in Whiterun.

 

Keep up the great work, cheers.

May I just ask, how did you let others NPC to whip you?!

 

[edwardmoors]

It's included in the new update. I guess it's more or less a random thing.

[RockMic]

Whiterun tried everything in place.

Found conflict that leads CTD with SkyRealism - Travel through time and I do not know if you can do something.

Success for the guard suffered the first dialogue, but I had to pull out a second time the weapon that has led to a vision behind locked all the time, just once sucess and the mod does not center.

When evening brought me back the guard made ​​her comfortable with another npc (Sexis) minor setback.

Suggestions for the future, to set dancer pillory, face guard gray male, a bit 'muffled cries from the gag too.

Thanks to proceed.

[PaybackTime]

Great job for this mod!

 

One thing, when killing (bounty of 1000g) a guard or people, when you surrender the guard does not always arrest you, sometime you need to hit someone else to trigger the surrender (take me to jail) conversation.

Even in this case the guard will arrest you (bound) but if other guards (or hostile peoples) are around at the time (which appended frequently when killing someone in the city) they are still try to kill you, which seems to trigger back your jailer into hostile mode. so you're then bound and everybody is trying to kill you... it generally end badly for me...

hitting a guard/people (40g) or minor crime works fine.

 

Another thing, the collar idea is great, however in the end I will try to never be caught or surrender for now on... even with the accelerated time you're time in jail seem rather long and repetitive... which we could argue make sense:  Aim of jail time is not meant to be fun.

However from a game play point a view it's kind of boring after being jailed once. Don't really have a solution for the right balance it's just my feeling so far. 

 

But still this mod is Great! Good work!

[poblivion]

I have a small problem, the guard take me to jail, but the jailer just stands there and nothing happens. Do you know where the fault may be?

[PaybackTime]

I have a small problem, the guard take me to jail, but the jailer just stands there and nothing happens. Do you know where the fault may be?

 

The guard is waiting for the custom jailer of the mod which is wandering around the jail in solitude and Whiterun. It could take time since the jail is "big". Try being arrested in Falkreath the prison is small. if it's still not working I guess you have another issue.

[greee3423]

while pilroy, vampire invade village and attack me, after broekn animation i can go free 

 

location is falkreath

 

[Freeweasel]

Using V014 I had the same problem poblivion had. I used a new istallation with all three DLC and the unofficial patches for everything. The guards took me into the prison to the chests with the stolen goods and prisoner possessions but then it stopped. The guard that brought me there left but I stood chained and still clothed in front of them. I was even able to move around as much as I like but as I had no way to open doors I had no way out of the prison. The jailer was already close to the chests as I arrived there but he/she just stood there.

I tried this in Riften, Whiterun and Falkreath and everywhere it was the same.

 

To me it looks like there is some problem with the script the moment the possessions of the player are to be put from his body to the chest.

 

I switched back to V013 and everything worked rather well including the pillory scene and the punishments. For testing I used the WAIT option to move the time faster. Looking at the same scene would be boring after a while but as long as it's two times punisjment maximum I can live with it. Still it might be better if you put in a chance to speed this up for those who might be bored too soon. If you played a scoundrel and ended in that situation more often it might be boring after a while.

Unless you're able to come up with enough random alternatives to keep it interesting.

 

I like this mod a lot so keep up with your work please!

 

About your future plans I use Sanguine Debauchery too. I hope the bounty hunter will no cause problems with the one already inside SD.

With the possible death sentence I'd like it if you make it optional or at least with a reasonable chance to be spared so you can escape just punished after some reloads.

 

 

BTW:

I did the clean install because I had some trouble with the guards not bringing me to prison but just standing around. I may have been caused by an update from V010 to V013 or being delivered by the SD bountyhunter the first time. The guards approached me and it broke the SD quest. I reloaded and tried it by approaching the guards directly but the result was the same.

I found no solution and there might have been another reason for it so I reinstalled. I just tested the above without SD and will try this now with SD installed.

[Freeweasel]

Waiting for the hour to be punished I encontered a problem in Falkreath.

 

Tekla came to her usual place to plug flowers and taunted the poor bound prisoner. Then the jailer came for the beating but Tekla stood in the way and that jailer just stood there for some minutes with the whip raised but unable to strike because of Tekla.

 

Maybe you should move the pillory a bit closer to the other or turn it a bit to the right?

[xaz]

 

I love what you added in the last version, I have some points i'd like to say.

 

I got caught around 11 AM and was thrown to jail, one hour later the jailer came and took me to the city and mounted me on the pillory then every hour later on until 9 PM he came and whipped me, now the issue I have with this is that after each whipping session he goes away and then comes back after one hour for the next one but the time he takes to actually reach me is too long, and I had to live that 9 times! So maybe you could make him stand next to the PC instead of going and coming back everytime?

 

Second thing is in Solitude prison the jailer kinda blocks the entrance to the cell and I have to wait till the game "teleports" me inside.

 

Lastly if you could add "pain" screams during the whipping that would be an instant win!

 

Cheers mate!

 

In my case, the jailer just stand beside me, and each hour He/She whipped me.

BTW, The male jailer has a darker face than his body, but the female one is perfect!!

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I think it slightly depends on which city you're caught in. I'll try to fix so he doesn't wander too far off.

[xaz]

help please when my crimes are major or serious and guard caught me i chose "take me to jail" then guards just keeps attacking while im cuffed and gagged they wont take me to jail.

If dialogue is skipped or broken, this may happen to you. There may be a conflicting mod which alters dialogue somehow, or something similar. This happens "normally" every once in a while also to me, but I think it's mostly when I get impatient and skip dialogue too quickly.

 

Make sure you're letting dialogue play normally when you're arrested. Also, if that doesn't solve it, or you can't find the conflict, you can still have fun with this mod. You can change the severity of your punishment mid game with little consequence (afaik).

 

In the console:

"set xpoCrimeSeverity to xyz" where you replace xyz with 10, 20, 30 or 40 (higher is worse). Do this right after you're arrested for petty or minor crimes, and you'll be processed according to the new level.