Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Herowynne]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

when you change a cooldown (which you'll have to do for this one), it resets the cooldown to that value.  If you set the cooldown to 15 days, you'll have to wait at least 15 days.  (If you want to do it soon, set the cooldown to 1 day, then change that cooldown to a reasonable value after the event starts.)

 

This is very helpful advice. Thank you!

 

 

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

The Road Trip event competes with four other events:  I Am Famous, Confessions of a Slave, Pony Express, and Trophy Slave.  When this type of event triggers, you'll randomly get one of these.  It's truly random; you could get the same one several times in a row (subject to individual cooldowns). 

 

Yes, I was wondering about this. I got "I Am Famous" a few times in a row - I suppose that was unlucky RNG.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

4 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Well, hopefully I didn't mess it up.

Nope, for the record I  had the roadtrip event trigger the other day.  It was highly inconvenient with what quests I was trying to finish at the time. 

 

[Herowynne]

Hi @HexBolt8

 

Even though I have been using Submissive Lola for years, mostly with vampire masters, today I noticed something for the first time.

 

It seems like Lola's vampire master will lose Arousal whenever a vampire feeding event occurs, perhaps because Submissive Lola plays the vampire feeding animation as a Sexlab sex scene?

 

It makes sense for the master's arousal to go down if a player has sexual vampire feeding + sex animations installed, but it doesn't work as well when the player has non-sexual vampire feeding animations installed (like me).

 

Anyway, please consider a feature request - a new MCM option "Master feeding arousal boost" that would default to zero, but allow specifying a non-zero number to boost the master's arousal after a vampire feeding event.

 

That would enable players who use non-sexual vampire feeding animations to specify a non-zero arousal boost, to compensate for the master's arousal loss from the feeding event.

 

Thanks so much for a truly great mod! ❤️

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, Herowynne said:

It seems like Lola's vampire master will lose Arousal whenever a vampire feeding event occurs, perhaps because Submissive Lola plays the vampire feeding animation as a Sexlab sex scene?

Can you please check something for me?  Do your feeding animations have the "Sex" or "Oral" tags?  If so, I think that's the real problem, since SexLab considers that a sex animation.  If those animations don't have those tags, can you check before & after to see if the main effect on arousal is exposure?  If so, I think I can just set the exposure back to its starting value after a feeding, and players wouldn't need a setting for non-sexual feeding.

Edited November 8, 2021 by HexBolt8

[Herowynne]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

Can you please check something for me?  Do your feeding animations have the "Sex" or "Oral" tags?  If so, I think that's the real problem, since SexLab considers that a sex animation.

 

The animation pack is my mini-SLAL vampire feeding animation pack, posted on the old SubLola support forum.

 

The animations have these tags in the JSON file:

 

"tags": "Vampire,Feeding,LimitedStrip"

 

 

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If those animations don't have those tags, can you check before & after to see if the main effect on arousal is exposure?  If so, I think I can just set the exposure back to its starting value after a feeding, and players wouldn't need a setting for non-sexual feeding.

 

Yes, the master's exposure was affected. For example, I checked the master's exposure before asking to offer service, and it was at 40. Then I offered service, and got the vampire feeding event, and afterwards the master's exposure was 31.

 

 

Edited November 8, 2021 by Herowynne

[Hex Bolt]

Thanks, @Herowynne.  I'll see what I can do to make that better.

[Pudpud007]

I forgot to leave a review, but yeah, amazing mod! Been using it for some times now. 

 

Is it possible to reverse it? I'm currently playing a male character, and want to experience having a lola to order around like when i was playing a female character as a lola. I know there are mods that allow me to have slaves, but their slaves' dialogues are too few and boring. It would be awesome to have a slave that actually move around by her will in order to fulfill the owner's orders, not just following the master and can only interact with the npc near the master.

[Herowynne]

1 hour ago, Pudpud007 said:

Is it possible to reverse it? I'm currently playing a male character, and want to experience having a lola to order around like when i was playing a female character as a lola. I know there are mods that allow me to have slaves, but their slaves' dialogues are too few and boring. It would be awesome to have a slave that actually move around by her will in order to fulfill the owner's orders, not just following the master and can only interact with the npc near the master.

That feature is not offered by this mod.

 

That would be a very complicated mod of its own.

[Sadem]

I have a suggestion for a new rule, foot fetish rule, you cant wear boots at all

 

And in the same light, the dom often says you will lick her feet, but there is no event for it, maybe add one when you try to trigger sleeping?

 

btw the mod is really good

[Hex Bolt]

11 minutes ago, Sadem said:

the dom often says you will lick her feet, but there is no event for it

An item on my to-do list is foot licking as a random alternative to the sweeping event.  It would use the shoe cleaning animation, but with the owner's footwear removed.

 

12 minutes ago, Sadem said:

btw the mod is really good

3 hours ago, Pudpud007 said:

I forgot to leave a review, but yeah, amazing mod!

Thank you both!

 

3 hours ago, Pudpud007 said:

Is it possible to reverse it?

No, that really is completely different.  It's challenging to get NPCs to do exactly what you want.

[Gräfin Zeppelin]

4 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

An item on my to-do list is foot licking as a random alternative to the sweeping event.  It would use the shoe cleaning animation, but with the owner's footwear removed.

 

 

Maybe with the NPC siting down ? or maybe lying on a bed or both ? Dunno if thats possible to have alternate situations.

[Sadem]

I had the quest to fetch alto wine, naked except for footwear and it said I had clothing on, because I had these earrings, I dont think this is normal, or it should unequip them too:

here is some info if you need it:

[Hex Bolt]

33 minutes ago, Sadem said:

I had the quest to fetch alto wine, naked except for footwear and it said I had clothing on, because I had these earrings

Those earrings have the ClothingHead keyword, so they're treated like a hat or helmet.  You'll either have to unequip them to be considered naked, or edit the mod that they come from to remove that keyword.

[Antiope_Apollonia]

On 11/9/2021 at 3:24 PM, Pudpud007 said:

I forgot to leave a review, but yeah, amazing mod! Been using it for some times now. 

 

Is it possible to reverse it? I'm currently playing a male character, and want to experience having a lola to order around like when i was playing a female character as a lola. I know there are mods that allow me to have slaves, but their slaves' dialogues are too few and boring. It would be awesome to have a slave that actually move around by her will in order to fulfill the owner's orders, not just following the master and can only interact with the npc near the master.

I think the closest thing you'll find is PAHE with Diary of Mine, which is getting better all the time.  It's not as overwhelming as it looks at first glance when you read the description—you can ignore a lot of the finer points of the personality system if you want.  

 

On 11/9/2021 at 6:12 PM, Sadem said:

And in the same light, the dom often says you will lick her feet, but there is no event for it, maybe add one when you try to trigger sleeping?

Personally, I'd really appreciate an option to remove that dialogue from the "random comment" pool for those of us who aren't into feet.  I really appreciate that the palace entry event gives us the option to "pretend to lick", which is quite a nice concession to different strokes for different folks, but that comment is pretty graphic and kinda undoes that work.  A great option would be to have it check whether you licked or pretended to lick last time that event occurred, and include or exclude that dialogue accordingly, but if that's too complicated, an MCM toggle would work, too.  

[Hex Bolt]

4 hours ago, Antiope_Appolonia said:

Personally, I'd really appreciate an option to remove that dialogue from the "random comment" pool for those of us who aren't into feet. 

I'll disable that one comment in the next update until I figure out what to do with such things.

[trellouk]

On 11/9/2021 at 7:33 PM, HexBolt8 said:

An item on my to-do list is foot licking as a random alternative to the sweeping event.  It would use the shoe cleaning animation, but with the owner's footwear removed.

 

Would love to see this implemented, the more acts of humility that the PC has to perform, the merrier ?

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, trellouk said:

Would love to see this implemented

Yes, the idea was more variety.  But I'll have to work out something for those who might not want it, and in the end the animation might not look right.  Just something on the list for me to look into sometime.

[Sadem]

I recently added this mod:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/12358?tab=description

and since then gold sharing stopped working completely, I keep all the gold, from vendors and from containers.
I don't have a theory why that is, but I guess its incompatible ?

 

EDIT:

after i removed the mod, the bug remained, so I reloaded a save before i added the mod, and it didnt have a bug.
I added the mod to the old save and the bug was still not there.

So something else happened, I will report if i figure it out

Edited November 12, 2021 by Sadem

[Hex Bolt]

13 minutes ago, Sadem said:

I keep all the gold, from vendors and from containers.

Without looking into that mod's internals, I don't see why it would conflict, since it only seems to alter things for vendors.  Is the forced prostitution event running?  Gold sharing is suspended during that event so that you can hold onto the pay you receive.  With Radiant Prostitution, you'll need that gold to turn in to your innkeeper/pimp at the end.

[Sadem]

4 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Without looking into that mod's internals, I don't see why it would conflict, since it only seems to alter things for vendors.  Is the forced prostitution event running?  Gold sharing is suspended during that event so that you can hold onto the pay you receive.  With Radiant Prostitution, you'll need that gold to turn in to your innkeeper/pimp at the end.

Oh god, I didnt know that at all, saved me a day of gameplay time. Kind of cheating though, but I will just not sell stuff while its running. Thanks for the info.

[CaptainJ03]

9 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

(foot licking)

I'll disable that one comment in the next update until I figure out what to do with such things.

Pity. For those of us who actually are into feet, this is the best comment ever, even if no action is yet to follow. I'm very much looking forward to see some foot (or boot) licking animation.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

As I was going around side-questing, doing a few favor quests for potential followers, I had an idea.  How hard would it be to change the SS++ buyer from a single person to a list of possibilities, one of which to be randomly chosen to be sent as a parameter to the SS++ handoff?

[Dreamer1986]

How do I make a custom follower as Kaidan into an owner? I don't see any dialogue option for him after reading the book, while the vanilla followers work fine. In the SL MCM in system the options are grayed out. 

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, Dreamer1986 said:

How do I make a custom follower as Kaidan into an owner?

Custom followers with their own specialized frameworks and hundreds of lines of new dialog will probably not work with this mod.  Followers that are basically just another pretty face, even if they come with a few special skills, will work.

  

3 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

How hard would it be to change the SS++ buyer from a single person to a list of possibilities, one of which to be randomly chosen to be sent as a parameter to the SS++ handoff?

Not so easy.  The MCM would have to display a list of the buyers you've chosen, and let you edit that list.  It's the same challenge for having a list of hair styles for the hair change event.  There are some shortcuts I could take, assuming that players would be okay with a clunky, awkward system rather than nothing at all.  I'll make a note to think about this.

 

Also, I have an idea to better handle the problem you were having with the "Don't walk away from me" owner response, basically a compromise solution that should fulfill the original intent without being so punishing.

Edited November 12, 2021 by HexBolt8

[Anunya]

I too would enjoy being able to put a list of possible buyers down rather than a single one, though of course it's subject to how complex it is, and to @HexBolt8's time and priorities. That said, Nymra's Naked Defeat has a list where you can input different hairstyles for a random outcome to a "haircut" event. Maybe there's something there that makes sense to borrow?