Submissive Lola: The resubmission

[leopardus]

- Master, can i ask about CTD? 

- of course, glad to help you!

 

It happens every second time...

[gamezel]

I barely post in this forum but this time I must say thank u for creating this mod, this is what I always wanted to feel, trained like an slave but at the same time having some dregree of freedom, able to refuse orders or take them and it's so well done that im so happy, I can finally experience and fulfill my submissive desires

 

the least I can do is thank u for your work, effort and the pasion you put in this and I want you to know it

[Psalam]

11 minutes ago, gamezel said:

I barely post in this forum but this time I must say thank u for creating this mod, this is what I always wanted to feel, trained like an slave but at the same time having some dregree of freedom, able to refuse orders or take them and it's so well done that im so happy, I can finally experience and fulfill my submissive desires

 

the least I can do is thank u for your work, effort and the pasion you put in this and I want you to know it

I'm sure that they appreciate it but let me point out that you can also like this mod. Go back to the page where you downloaded the mod. At the bottom right hand corner of the post with the mod's description is a green thumbs up icon. Click on it to show your appreciation.

Please don't take this personally. I like to remind people that liking mods is a good way to tell their authors how much they are appreciated. It is simple and easy and yet not done nearly as much as it ought to be.

[gamezel]

Yes I already did it, usually do it with every mod I like because I know the hard work it takes to make them

[Mehmeme]

18 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

However, if you're quick, you can briefly remove a device, do what you need to do, then put it back on.  It's handy if you want to swap one collar for another.

Owner actually shocked me once in the split second where you dont have a collar on when you ask her to switch your collar, lol.

[tester86]

4 hours ago, Psalam said:

I'm sure that they appreciate it but let me point out that you can also like this mod. Go back to the page where you downloaded the mod. At the bottom right hand corner of the post with the mod's description is a green thumbs up icon. Click on it to show your appreciation.

Please don't take this personally. I like to remind people that liking mods is a good way to tell their authors how much they are appreciated. It is simple and easy and yet not done nearly as much as it ought to be.

I feel like an idiot. Been on LL for over three years and never noticed or knew about the green like button. Thank you for this. I have a few mods to go add a thumbs up to. Seriously, thank you!

[Psalam]

12 minutes ago, tester86 said:

I feel like an idiot. Been on LL for over three years and never noticed or knew about the green like button. Thank you for this. I have a few mods to go add a thumbs up to. Seriously, thank you!

You're very welcome and I hope others will follow your example.

[valcon767]

1 hour ago, tester86 said:

I feel like an idiot. Been on LL for over three years and never noticed or knew about the green like button. Thank you for this. I have a few mods to go add a thumbs up to. Seriously, thank you!

 

1 hour ago, Psalam said:

You're very welcome and I hope others will follow your example.

thanks for the reminder.  even old hand can forget, not to mention the first post in the support thread and the download page "green like" buttons are actually separate.

i actually had a couple of mods where i had clicked one of them but not the other.  went thru and fixed that.

 

[Psalam]

On 7/21/2020 at 12:22 PM, HexBolt8 said:

No, just a number in a global variable.

Since, evidently, the Global Variable isn't "Submission" (or so the console says) are you willing to share the name?

[Hex Bolt]

42 minutes ago, Psalam said:

Since, evidently, the Global Variable isn't "Submission" (or so the console says) are you willing to share the name?

Not a bad guess.  It's vkjSubmissionScore.  By the way, "help" with the "3" parameter works well with globals.  "help submission 3" would have gotten you there.  I'm not saying you should've known, just sharing a tip.  That one's helped me a lot.

[MrEsturk]

43 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Not a bad guess.  It's vkjSubmissionScore.  By the way, "help" with the "3" parameter works well with globals.  "help submission 3" would have gotten you there.  I'm not saying you should've known, just sharing a tip.  That one's helped me a lot.

It should also be noted that all the globals unique to this mod start with "vkj". A trend started by vkjalex.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

I have been looking more at if I can make the Radiant Prostitution integration work with home delivery quests. I think I have found a method but don't know how to do something.

 

There is a global variable provided from Radiant Prostitution called mf_TotalClients, I'm trying to access that in vkjpimpedbasic but can't work out how (I am completely new to modding Skyrim).

 

I think this will be a better method though because it ensures 100% that only whoring is counted and will work with all the RP quests.

 

So basically instead of the current mf_SimpleJobQuestScript and checking sex client, just use this variable to check if it was a client.

 

Let me know your thoughts! Thanks.

[Hex Bolt]

29 minutes ago, RMCW said:

There is a global variable provided from Radiant Prostitution called mf_TotalClients, I'm trying to access that in vkjpimpedbasic but can't work out how (I am completely new to modding Skyrim).

 

I think this will be a better method though because it ensures 100% that only whoring is counted and will work with all the RP quests.

I had suggested something like that to MrEsturk when he started working on the RP integration, but he had a reason for doing what he did.  Maybe he didn't like having to keep polling that variable for potentially quite a few game hours.

[Hex Bolt]

Preview - Simple Slavery Integration

 

You can designate a potential (or current) follower as your future Submissive Lola owner.  After the Simple Slavery auction, that owner will come to the slave hall to claim you and collar you.  Everything is built, I'm just testing all the scenarios.

 

Spoiler

 

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

Thanks. I think this method will be more lightweight as we would just check the variable on sexend (not continuously polling) and compare if != to last value that would need to be cached. Rather than looking up the client, not much in it either way I don't imagine.

 

Could be an issue outside of this, I'm obviously clueless when it comes to problems with Papyrus. Awesome if you can weigh in on this @MrEsturk

 

Many thanks.

[Bratty Cheeks - RMCW]

8 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

You can designate a potential (or current) follower as your future Submissive Lola owner.  After the Simple Slavery auction, that owner will come to the slave hall to claim you and collar you.  Everything is built, I'm just testing all the scenarios.

 

That's great! Thanks for all your great work @HexBolt8, I for one really appreciate it.

[Gräfin Zeppelin]

16 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Preview - Simple Slavery Integration

 

You can designate a potential (or current) follower as your future Submissive Lola owner.  After the Simple Slavery auction, that owner will come to the slave hall to claim you and collar you.  Everything is built, I'm just testing all the scenarios.

 

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Is it possible somehow to use another kneeling position like facedown or the hands behind neck ?

[Hex Bolt]

52 minutes ago, Gräfin Zeppelin said:

Is it possible somehow to use another kneeling position like facedown or the hands behind neck ?

If it's another Zaz idle animation, that's possible.  The one commonly used in this mod is the ZazAPC016 idle.  I'm not familiar with a lot of them; I just used what we've been using.  Maybe someone would like to research Zaz idle animation alternatives.  Since you're talking to the owner, a face down animation might not be the best, but some form of kneeling fits pretty well. 

[MrEsturk]

2 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

2 hours ago, RMCW said:

There is a global variable provided from Radiant Prostitution called mf_TotalClients, I'm trying to access that in vkjpimpedbasic but can't work out how (I am completely new to modding Skyrim).

 

I think this will be a better method though because it ensures 100% that only whoring is counted and will work with all the RP quests.

I had suggested something like that to MrEsturk when he started working on the RP integration, but he had a reason for doing what he did.  Maybe he didn't like having to keep polling that variable for potentially quite a few game hours.

I used an alias reference because it seemed cleaner and less script heavy than having a constant OnUpdate() check for changes to RP's globals. The forced prostitution quest has an OnUpdate() event to check if the player has left town, but its kept spaced out to reduce script load. I might look into possibly finding a way to count other RP jobs when I take back over.

 

Also thanks to everybody who remembered to leave a like today.

[Zor2k13]

Oh shit...

 

Ok uh so the way you designate a follower to be your owner after simple slavery option can that be done through some saucy dialogue with the follower earlier on? Like how maria eden handled potential pimp recruitment but with some moar saucy dialogue details. So the greeting in that picture up there a few posts up would have dialogue tied in to that initial recruitment talk and maybe for housecarls they could talk about taking everything you owned and yadda yadda.

[donttouchmethere]

2 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Preview - Simple Slavery Integration

A.W.E.S.O.M.E!

This integrates Lola nicely into various defeat and enslave mods that connect to SS++.

After years of stagnation Simple Slavery gets really interesting again.

My over-modded devious Skyrim Sandbox thanks you!

[Hex Bolt]

33 minutes ago, Zor2k13 said:

Ok uh so the way you designate a follower to be your owner after simple slavery option can that be done through some saucy dialogue with the follower earlier on?

No, because of the different ways you can choose to do it.  You might select a potential follower you've never recruited to be your buyer.  Or it could be a current follower.  And you'd have to be able to change your mind, so every potential follower would have that top-level dialog option.  There's some immersive dialog after you're bought. 

[valcon767]

3 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Preview - Simple Slavery Integration

 

You can designate a potential (or current) follower as your future Submissive Lola owner.  After the Simple Slavery auction, that owner will come to the slave hall to claim you and collar you.  Everything is built, I'm just testing all the scenarios.

 

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh KEWELEO

 

this gonna make it even better.

? ?

[Hex Bolt]

Feature Patch - Simple Slavery Integration

 

This patch contains everything in the July 20 patch so it's a complete patch for 0.84.  This patch is almost entirely for Simple Slavery integration.  If you don't care about that, you don't need this.

 

EDIT:  The patch is obsolete.  Get the latest official version from the mod page.

 

The second file is for Simple Slavery ++ 6.3.1.  Do not use it for SS+ or classic SS.  I'm not trying to steer people to SS++, it's just the version I have the ability to modify.  You don't actually need SS++ or the SS++ patch to preview the integration feature.  Keep reading.

 

EDIT:  The patch is obsolete.  Get SS++ 6.3.2 from its mod page.

 

 

Setup

 

Install this patch for Submissive Lola.  Then either:
>  Install the patch here for SS++ 6.3.1.  I'm waiting to release an update SS++ until the post-auction handling in Lola is solid and in an official release.  Chicken & egg.  Be sure that Lola is selected as the outcome in SS++.

Or:
>  Alternatively, you can preview the feature without SS++.  Save first, obviously, then type "StartQuest vkjSlaveStart" in the console to kick off the post-auction event right where you're standing.

 

Selecting Your Auction Buyer

Spoiler

You must have Simple Slavery installed.  Any version will be detected, but this feature will only work with SS++.

 

Because crosshair target detection was just added to the MCM, you must initialize it before using it.  Aim the crosshair away from NPCs, so that you don't have the "Talk" prompt.  Enter this mod's MCM (main page is fine) and exit.  Now it's initialized.  You only have to do this once in a playthrough.

 

Aim the crosshair at a potential (or current) follower and enter the MCM.  Go to the Mod Integration page.  Refresh the mod list if needed so that Simple Slavery is found.  The Simple Slavery section displays the chosen Auction Buyer, if any, with an option just below to select the targeted NPC.

 

How It Works

Spoiler

You may pre-select a future owner (the "Auction Buyer") who will buy you and claim you after the auction (the NPC does not actually bid).

 

Normal Path (Unowned)

 

You will not have an owner at the time of the auction.  Your future owner might be a current follower you have not submitted to, or it may be a potential follower whom you have not recruited.  

 

After the auction, if the designated owner is not yet a follower, that actor will be automatically recruited.  Be sure that you can recruit another follower if you already have one.  This mod does not perform any magic, it simply calls the standard recruitment function that is used by vanilla Skyrim and that is modified by follower frameworks.  If recruitment fails, the process ends.  I have tested with NFF, and it should work with vanilla.  I believe it will also work fine with other frameworks.

 

The follower will be placed in front of you.  Speak to your new owner to complete the enslavement process.  (I wanted the owner to force greet you but that didn't work.  Yes that means you could just run off.  Be a good slave and don't do that.)  This process reuses the Strong Hand quest.  The quest log won't make much sense; ignore it.

 

You will receive a contract according to your MCM setting, but never less than 5 days.

 

If You Didn't Select an Auction Buyer

 

The Strong Hand quest is started for you and you're told to seek out an owner.  This is basically the old Submissive Lola outcome in SS.

 

Owned:  Auction Buyer Is Your Owner

 

Your owner is placed in front of you.  Five days are added to your contract, or you receive a 5-day contract if you didn't have one before.

 

Owned:  Auction Buyer Is Not Your Owner

 

You already have an owner, but you selected someone else to buy you.  Your owner won't allow that.  Your owner is placed in front of you.  Five days are added to your contract, or you receive a 5-day contract if you didn't have one before.

 

The patch has one bug fix:

Creature followers like Vigilance are blocked from asking to enslave you (even if you really wanted to wear that dog collar).

[Hex Bolt]

Testing the auction with SS++ is easy. 

 

Be sure that Submissive Lola is selected for the auction outcome and have an auction buyer selected.

 

"coc sslvmarket" to enter the slave market.

 

Talk to the Auctioneer and ask for a "pretend" auction (it's real, of course).