Hex Bolt Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 28 minutes ago, Burner003 said: if I dismiss my follower temporarily to complete some quests where followers can't come (generally from Laura's Bondage Shop) will the demands be paused? It's not designed for that. You can probably get away with it for a few hours. If you're not in a contract, you can just ask to be freed (losing half your score) and dismiss the follower without consequences. I'll make a note to look at what it would take for the mod to handle dismissal without leaving enslavement. Some things should obviously be suspended, like the daily service requirement. Others are less clear. What if you're in the middle of an event? What about wearing your collar? You're still a slave. I'll give it some thought and at least handle the obvious things. I don't recommend it right now though. Better to cleanly exit slavery, then dismiss.
Herowynne Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 2 hours ago, HexBolt8 said: I'm using NFF (LE) myself and had no difficulty with the recruitment, though it was a non-hireling follower. That was a good point about the NPC being a hireling. For completeness, I also tried a non-hireling immediately-recruitable follower, but still got the debug popup. When you release the new version with the 2-second wait, I will try it again. Thanks!
Burner003 Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 35 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said: It's not designed for that. You can probably get away with it for a few hours. If you're not in a contract, you can just ask to be freed (losing half your score) and dismiss the follower without consequences. I'll make a note to look at what it would take for the mod to handle dismissal without leaving enslavement. Some things should obviously be suspended, like the daily service requirement. Others are less clear. What if you're in the middle of an event? What about wearing your collar? You're still a slave. I'll give it some thought and at least handle the obvious things. I don't recommend it right now though. Better to cleanly exit slavery, then dismiss. Got it! Will end slavery first then.
Herowynne Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 Improving Compatibility between Submissive Lola and Devious Followers Continued (DFC) There appears to be a small incompatibility between Submissive Lola and Devious Followers Continued 2.12.2 and earlier versions. This issue does not occur with DFC 2.13.1 and later versions. The problem occurs after you choose the Kneel dialogue option when speaking to your master. Your master force-greets you with a line of dialogue from Devious Followers, "Stupid girl. I had to pay a fine for you. Until you pay me back - with interest - I'm not letting you out of my sight." You select the ellipsis (...) dialogue option and then the normal Submissive Lola dialogue proceeds. The problem not game-breaking, just clunky and un-immersive. Here is a screenshot of the problem: Spoiler I play Skyrim SE and I made a small ESL-flagged patch for myself to address the problem. I'm sharing this in case anyone else is interested. This change is only needed for DFC 2.12.2 and earlier versions. DFC 2.13.1 and later versions incorporate this change. Here is a screenshot of the change in xEdit. ESL-flagging is not available in Skyrim LE, so the patch won't work on LE, but you could make this change yourself to DeviousFollowers.esp. Spoiler DFLolaPatch.zip 6
Hex Bolt Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Herowynne said: Your master force-greets you with a line of dialogue from Devious Followers, "Stupid girl. I had to pay a fine for you. Until you pay me back - with interest - I'm not letting you out of my sight." Yeah, it's a problem when competing things try to control the dialog. This mod briefly had its own problem with some fun blocking dialog when you were gagged. It was nice, but it broke the mod's own force greets so I reluctantly disabled it. That kind of thing works best I think for very brief periods, to minimize conflicts. At least the player can still click the ellipsis and reach this mod's dialog. I guess your owner really wanted to make that point.
MikeTM Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 @HexBolt8 _Actually, there are 3 of them STA_SpankUtil.psc line 295 : Function RegEvents() RegisterForModEvent("STA_DoRandomNpcSpank", "OnSTA_DoRandomNpcSpank") RegisterForModEvent("STA_DoNpcSpankSpecific", "OnSTA_DoNpcSpankSpecific") RegisterForModEvent("STA_DoNpcSpankSpecificCustom", "OnSTA_DoNpcSpankSpecificCustom") RegisterForModEvent("STA_DoPlayerComment", "OnSTA_DoPlayerComment") EndFunction I tried this one, it seems to work int evt = ModEvent.Create("STA_DoNpcSpankSpecific") ModEvent.PushFloat(evt, 1.0) ModEvent.PushForm(evt, ak) ModEvent.PushBool(evt, false) ModEvent.PushFloat(evt, -1.0) ModEvent.Send(evt) 1
Gräfin Zeppelin Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 9 hours ago, HexBolt8 said: There was only one line for that, and it's still in the mod: "It's feeding time. I need your blood, slave." You're asked for blood instead of sex. I noticed that it was missing the "random" flag (it was also missing in the original) so I just now added that. Awesome, thank you.
nali_m Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 On 7/21/2020 at 8:00 AM, Naps-On-Dirt said: I might have hit a bug, or maybe I was just not very observant. I asked to give my master the gold early because I had to travel, and he said sure, only if you travel naked. I said alright, and that turned into a naked for 2 whole days rule. But after two days it was not rescinded, and if I ask my master if I can wear armor again he just says no, slaves look better naked. I don't know if the two day rule expired and he gave me a new no-clothes rule that I missed, or if it just never expired. Anyway, the no clothes rule makes adventuring pretty difficult, my alteration isn't that high so my only armor is Stoneskin, when I remember to cast it. I had to leave servitude to do a solo Thieves Guild quest so its all reset now, but I'm curious what the cause was. On 7/21/2020 at 8:13 AM, RMCW said: @Naps-On-Dirt You can set the gear restriction areas for the naked rule in MCM. This only effects the long term rule which you seemed to have. Maybe your 2 day rule expired and you got the long term deal that you missed for some reason. I haven't selected that particular dialogue option though (because I have to travel) and there may be a bug there, I'll check. Edit: Couldn't reproduce the bug I have the same question,after 48hr i still can not equip foot or helmet. I can equip foots or helmet before i have trip this 48hr. I am sure i had passed the 48hr,and there is no quest about the 48hr in my quests list.
nali_m Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 On 7/21/2020 at 8:00 AM, Naps-On-Dirt said: I might have hit a bug, or maybe I was just not very observant. I asked to give my master the gold early because I had to travel, and he said sure, only if you travel naked. I said alright, and that turned into a naked for 2 whole days rule. But after two days it was not rescinded, and if I ask my master if I can wear armor again he just says no, slaves look better naked. I don't know if the two day rule expired and he gave me a new no-clothes rule that I missed, or if it just never expired. Anyway, the no clothes rule makes adventuring pretty difficult, my alteration isn't that high so my only armor is Stoneskin, when I remember to cast it. I had to leave servitude to do a solo Thieves Guild quest so its all reset now, but I'm curious what the cause was. have you fix the issue? or how do to fix it? I have the same question with you?
Herowynne Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 Improving Compatibility between Submissive Lola and Sexlab Survival (SLS) There appears to be a significant incompatibility between Sexlab Survival and Submissive Lola 2.0.21 and earlier versions. The problem does not occur with Submissive Lola 2.0.22 and later versions. The problem occurs after you choose the Kneel dialogue option when speaking to your master. Your master speaks a line of dialogue from Sexlab Survival, "Oh, so cute. Tied up and on her knees. What's the problem baby?" There is no dialogue option, and there is no way to proceed with the expected Submissive Lola action. The problem breaks Submissive Lola's Kneel action. Here is a screenshot of the problem: Spoiler The incompatibility between Submissive Lola and Sexlab Survival is a bigger problem than the incompatibility between Submissive Lola and Devious Followers Continued. Note if you have all 3 mods installed, then the Devious Followers Continued force-greet behavior takes precedence over the Sexlab Survival issue. However, if you "Pause" Devious Followers in its MCM, then you will get the Sexlab Survival issue. I play Skyrim SE and I made a small ESL-flagged patch for myself to address the problem. I'm sharing this in case anyone else is interested. This fix is only needed for Submissive Lola 2.0.21 and earlier versions. This fix is not needed with Submissive Lola 2.0.22 and later versions. Here is a screenshot of the change in xEdit. ESL-flagging is not available in Skyrim LE, so the patch won't work on LE, but you could make this change yourself to SL Survival.esp. Spoiler SLSLolaPatch.zip 6
Hex Bolt Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Herowynne said: The problem occurs after you choose the Kneel dialogue option when speaking to your master. Your master speaks a line of dialogue from Sexlab Survival, "Oh, so cute. Tied up and on her knees. What's the problem baby?" There is no dialogue option, and there is no way to proceed with the expected Submissive Lola action. The problem breaks Submissive Lola's Kneel action. Yes, it's blocking dialog. It locks out everything else. It's from the begging feature. One option might be to turn off "Enable Begging Dialogue". A better solution would be for the begging dialog to be more selective. You could try editing the various _SLS_Begging quests on SLS to add an IsInScene condition on the player so it won't interfere if the player is in a scene like this mod's kneeling scene.
Hex Bolt Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 12 hours ago, MikeTM said: I tried this one, it seems to work int evt = ModEvent.Create("STA_DoNpcSpankSpecific") ModEvent.PushFloat(evt, 1.0) ModEvent.PushForm(evt, ak) ModEvent.PushBool(evt, false) ModEvent.PushFloat(evt, -1.0) ModEvent.Send(evt) Thank you, that was what I needed. This will be in the next update. Please let me know if it seems to be working as desired. I'll also add mod event calls for Devious Followers Continued (DFC) resistance loss when you're punished.
Naps-On-Dirt Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 5 hours ago, nali_m said: have you fix the issue? or how do to fix it? I have the same question with you? No, I never did figure it out. I had to release myself from servitude to do some solo quests and the problem hasn't recurred yet.
Hex Bolt Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 56 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said: No, I never did figure it out. I had to release myself from servitude to do some solo quests and the problem hasn't recurred yet. I believe I've found the problem. The fix will be in the next update. When the naked travel restriction starts, you'll see a new objective in the main quest ("Submissive Lola"): "You have to stay naked for the next 48 hours". After the 48 hours, that quest objective updates to "Obey your clothing restrictions." Unfortunately, the quest conditions are little confused. I'm guessing that the naked travel option isn't chosen often. Anyway, you'll never allowed to wear armor again when you ask, because of that quest condition mix-up. I will fix that. Keep in mind that even with the fix, the "Owner Rejects Rule Changes" setting applies and you could still be refused when you ask if you're unlucky (wait and try again later). 1
Naps-On-Dirt Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 I had my submission score up in the 80's but had to free myself to do solo quests (Cidhna Mine followed by Diplomatic Immunity), and when I re-submitted to the same master less than a day later, my score is at 0. I'm up to date with patches, I thought the score would be kept and halved when you came crawling back.
Hex Bolt Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said: I had my submission score up in the 80's but had to free myself to do solo quests (Cidhna Mine followed by Diplomatic Immunity), and when I re-submitted to the same master less than a day later, my score is at 0. I'm up to date with patches, I thought the score would be kept and halved when you came crawling back. Yes, it should. I'll investigate. You can manually add back your score with "set vkjSubmissionScore to xx". Sorry for the trouble.
nali_m Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 3 hours ago, HexBolt8 said: I believe I've found the problem. The fix will be in the next update. When the naked travel restriction starts, you'll see a new objective in the main quest ("Submissive Lola"): "You have to stay naked for the next 48 hours". After the 48 hours, that quest objective updates to "Obey your clothing restrictions." Unfortunately, the quest conditions are little confused. I'm guessing that the naked travel option isn't chosen often. Anyway, you'll never allowed to wear armor again when you ask, because of that quest condition mix-up. I will fix that. Keep in mind that even with the fix, the "Owner Rejects Rule Changes" setting applies and you could still be refused when you ask if you're unlucky (wait and try again later). （When the naked travel restriction starts, you'll see a new objective in the main quest ("Submissive Lola"): "You have to stay naked for the next 48 hours". After the 48 hours, that quest objective updates to "Obey your clothing restrictions." ）After 48 hr，i just got the quest “Obey your clothing restrictions”，but still cannot wear helmet or others，and i dont have the dialogue about the "wear armor again" with my master,nothing happened,just cannot equip my helmet.?
Hex Bolt Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, nali_m said: After 48 hr，i just got the quest “Obey your clothing restrictions”，but still cannot wear helmet or others，and i dont have the dialogue about the "wear armor again" with my master,nothing happened,just cannot equip my helmet. "The fix will be in the next update." I'm testing the changes now.
nali_m Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said: "The fix will be in the next update." I'm testing the changes now. thks,great mod!?
Hex Bolt Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 Feature & Fix Update This is a complete patch for version 0.87. You don't need earlier patches. I'll ask MrEsturk about making this one an official 0.88 version. EDIT: This patch is obsolete. Content: Spoiler Whoring Overtime Impress your owner by servicing 1 to 4 more clients after meeting your quota, and increase your score reward by up to 60%. Dancing This mod uses the dance moves from ZAP 8. Neither MrEsturk nor I were aware that ZAP 7 doesn't have them. So that you don't just stand there, if ZAP 8 is not detected you'll perform Cicero's dance. You won't miss out on any content from this mod; you just won't dance well. For what it's worth, Cicero's dance was used in the original Submissive Lola (though dancing was in fewer places) so you'll be having the "classic" experience. If you have ZAP 8, you MUST go to the Mod Integration page and refresh the mod list or you too will dance like Cicero. Devious Followers Continued Resistance Loss Added a mod event call to notify DFC of resistance loss events. The MCM has a setting on the Rules page for the base amount of resistance lost, which is multiplied by the event severity, ranging from 1 for kneeling and asking to be of service, to 4 for a punishment whipping. The base amount can be set to zero to disable this feature. DFC is not required, but the resistance loss setting is meaningless without it. It probably isn't a good fit to add DFC resistance loss for more events. For one thing, too many instances of this can crush your resistance. It's better to have a few places for noteworthy resistance loss. Right now that's kneeling and asking to be of service, plus spanking & whipping. Another difficultly is that the mod can't know your character's personality. For most, a naked walk through Whiterun would be enormously humiliating, but an exhibitionist would love it. No reasonable person enjoys forced prostitution, but a fantasy hentai nympho would. Spank That Ass Added a mod event call to notify Spank That Ass (if installed) that spanking has occurred. I am not committing this mod to supporting Spank That Ass. If this mod event call works, great. If it doesn't, then Spank That Ass notification won't happen. Adjustments Fixed preserving some of your score if you leave enslavement but submit yourself again to the same master (without having another master in between). The quest was clearing the variable for the last owner when it restarted. I fixed that. I also modified the amount of score you keep. You keep either half your score or your score - 20, whichever is greater. That will help anyone with a score over 40. NOTE: If you are currently released from your old master, this fix will not help you because the fix occurs at moment you're freed. It will help you if you ever leave and return again, though. Added handling for when you dismiss your owner as a follower but you remain enslaved. Dismissing your owner isn't so much supported as it is handled. You should not be given new tasks, score decay will be on hold, and you will not lose score for failure to meet your quota for offering service. However, your contract time is also on hold, so it will not be counting down until you make your owner a follower again, and worn item requirements are still enforced. If you want to be freed from a restriction, do that before dismissing your owner. I think I've fixed the gender matching problem reported by ryanmayfair. It was just a small adjustment but I think I got it. Let me know if you're still seeing gender mismatches for the I Am Famous quest. Armor restriction for being nude for 48 hours should now let you ask for release afterwards. Remember that the "Owner Rejects Rule Changes" setting applies, so you might not get what you want on the first try. Owners should be less prone to raging hormone syndrome, particularly a problem when the slave is naked. Owners should be fully satisfied by sex now, though you might still have to manually adjust your master's time rate in your SL Arousal mod's MCM if it gets too high. Remember however that owners gain some arousal from spanking and whipping you. Fixed a false positive for Masturbation Denial. I discovered that some 2-person animations have the "Masturbation" tag. Grrrr. I added exclusions for "masturbation" animations that also have the tags "MF", "FF", "MM", or "Threesome". If you come across others like this, please report it but *please* include the list of that animation's tags. I might not have that animation installed. You can find an animation's tags in-game in the SexLab MCM under Toggle Animations. Select the animation and its tag list will be shown in the help text box. Fixed your old name not being restored when leaving enslavement if your name had been changed to Lola. Added a lengthy cooldown to the Lights Out and Hairstyle games. However, asking to end the Hairstyle game early will now always be refused. Placed a copy of Submissive Lola in the library area of the Bard's College, on the counter near the pitcher. I don't plan to add any more. Didn't Make the Cut A few items are in development but didn't make it into this update: I'm working on making the Lights Out game better by reducing the duration to 24 hours and allowing you to end it cleanly afterwards without losing score. It will have a 10 day cooldown. Hopefully people will want to play this game with those changes. I want the owner's dialog to change if you left enslavement and you're returning. Going through the same speech makes no sense (I got to see it a lot during testing). I'm considering adding spanking or whipping if you choose to leave enslavement ("It hurts me that you don't want to be my slave, so before I release you you're going to feel some pain too.") It's like an ugly break-up. Thoughts on this? 7
Demodog Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said: Feature & Fix Update This is a complete patch for version 0.87. You don't need earlier patches. I'll ask MrEsturk about making this one an official 0.88 version. Submissive Lola Resubmission Patch - 29 July 2020.7z 147.45 kB · 5 downloads Content: Hide contents Whoring Overtime Impress your owner by servicing 1 to 4 more clients after meeting your quota, and increase your score reward by up to 60%. Dancing This mod uses the dance moves from ZAP 8. Neither MrEsturk nor I were aware that ZAP 7 doesn't have them. So that you don't just stand there, if ZAP 8 is not detected you'll perform Cicero's dance. You won't miss out on any content from this mod; you just won't dance well. For what it's worth, Cicero's dance was used in the original Submissive Lola (though dancing was in fewer places) so you'll be having the "classic" experience. If you have ZAP 8, you MUST go to the Mod Integration page and refresh the mod list or you too will dance like Cicero. Devious Followers Continued Resistance Loss Added a mod event call to notify DFC of resistance loss events. The MCM has a setting on the Rules page for the base amount of resistance lost, which is multiplied by the event severity, ranging from 1 for kneeling and asking to be of service, to 4 for a punishment whipping. The base amount can be set to zero to disable this feature. DFC is not required, but the resistance loss setting is meaningless without it. It probably isn't a good fit to add DFC resistance loss for more events. For one thing, too many instances of this can crush your resistance. It's better to have a few places for noteworthy resistance loss. Right now that's kneeling and asking to be of service, plus spanking & whipping. Another difficultly is that the mod can't know your character's personality. For most, a naked walk through Whiterun would be enormously humiliating, but an exhibitionist would love it. No reasonable person enjoys forced prostitution, but a fantasy hentai nympho would. Spank That Ass Added a mod event call to notify Spank That Ass (if installed) that spanking has occurred. I am not committing this mod to supporting Spank That Ass. If this mod event call works, great. If it doesn't, then Spank That Ass notification won't happen. Adjustments Fixed preserving some of your score if you leave enslavement but submit yourself again to the same master (without having another master in between). The quest was clearing the variable for the last owner when it restarted. I fixed that. I also modified the amount of score you keep. You keep either half your score or your score - 20, whichever is greater. That will help anyone with a score over 40. NOTE: If you are currently released from your old master, this fix will not help you because the fix occurs at moment you're freed. It will help you if you ever leave and return again, though. Added handling for when you dismiss your owner as a follower but you remain enslaved. Dismissing your owner isn't so much supported as it is handled. You should not be given new tasks, score decay will be on hold, and you will not lose score for failure to meet your quota for offering service. However, your contract time is also on hold, so it will not be counting down until you make your owner a follower again, and worn item requirements are still enforced. If you want to be freed from a restriction, do that before dismissing your owner. I think I've fixed the gender matching problem reported by ryanmayfair. It was just a small adjustment but I think I got it. Let me know if you're still seeing gender mismatches for the I Am Famous quest. Armor restriction for being nude for 48 hours should now let you ask for release afterwards. Remember that the "Owner Rejects Rule Changes" setting applies, so you might not get what you want on the first try. Owners should be less prone to raging hormone syndrome, particularly a problem when the slave is naked. Owners should be fully satisfied by sex now, though you might still have to manually adjust your master's time rate in your SL Arousal mod's MCM if it gets too high. Remember however that owners gain some arousal from spanking and whipping you. Fixed a false positive for Masturbation Denial. I discovered that some 2-person animations have the "Masturbation" tag. Grrrr. I added exclusions for "masturbation" animations that also have the tags "MF", "FF", "MM", or "Threesome". If you come across others like this, please report it but *please* include the list of that animation's tags. I might not have that animation installed. You can find an animation's tags in-game in the SexLab MCM under Toggle Animations. Select the animation and its tag list will be shown in the help text box. Fixed your old name not being restored when leaving enslavement if your name had been changed to Lola. Added a lengthy cooldown to the Lights Out and Hairstyle games. However, asking to end the Hairstyle game early will now always be refused. Placed a copy of Submissive Lola in the library area of the Bard's College, on the counter near the pitcher. I don't plan to add any more. Didn't Make the Cut A few items are in development but didn't make it into this update: I'm working on making the Lights Out game better by reducing the duration to 24 hours and allowing you to end it cleanly afterwards without losing score. It will have a 10 day cooldown. Hopefully people will want to play this game with those changes. I want the owner's dialog to change if you left enslavement and you're returning. Going through the same speech makes no sense (I got to see it a lot during testing). I'm considering adding spanking or whipping if you choose to leave enslavement ("It hurts me that you don't want to be my slave, so before I release you you're going to feel some pain too.") It's like an ugly break-up. Thoughts on this? I like the idea of a spanking/whipping for leaving enslavement. I was also wondering if you planned to put some affectionate dialogue/interaction in the mod? Maybe something to entice players who submitted to their masters willingly to stay as slaves to them? idk.. Thank you for all the hard work you and MrEsturk are putting into this mod
Hex Bolt Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, Demodog said: I was also wondering if you planned to put some affectionate dialogue/interaction in the mod? Maybe something to entice players who submitted to their masters willingly to stay as slaves to them? Not exactly. You asked for a strong hand, and that's what you're getting. The mod works well by staying focused on the dom-sub relationship and by being broad enough in its wording that you can imagine the owner in your game in many different ways. That's a real strength of this mod, painting the larger picture and letting the player mentally fill in the details. I have plans (and preliminary wording) to give the player character 3 things to say to the owner, all placed behind a new "I'd like to tell you something" option under "Master/Mistress?" If you dislike them you don't have to see them, and you'll only get to say one of them per day. Basically they're "You're mean", "I'm glad I'm your slave", and "I love you". The first one lowers your score but doesn't earn you a punishment. It's an immersive way to keep your score down (if you want that) by expressing displeasure without being defiant. The second is the opposite, though you'll only have a chance for a score increase, for saying that you like the thing you asked for. The last one will result in responses similar to "That's nice, sweetie". You won't be having a heartwarming moment, and you won't get a score increase. Maybe the owner is messing with you (the playful side of things), maybe the owner doesn't have those feelings for you, or maybe the owner is involved with someone else (another follower?) and simply likes doing kinky stuff with you. This mod can't make assumptions about that. Anything approaching love or romance really belongs in a romance mod or custom follower mod, where they can be done well. So that's as close as I personally intend to get. MrEsturk may want to do something different in that area. I'm just speaking for myself. 58 minutes ago, Demodog said: Thank you for all the hard work you and MrEsturk are putting into this mod You're welcome. MrEsturk took this reboot a log way, and I know that he has some ideas for more fun things that he hasn't done yet. I've enjoyed working on it while he's on a break, and I look forward to playing it. 3
Demodog Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said: Not exactly. You asked for a strong hand, and that's what you're getting. The mod works well by staying focused on the dom-sub relationship and by being broad enough in its wording that you can imagine the owner in your game in many different ways. That's a real strength of this mod, painting the larger picture and letting the player mentally fill in the details. I have plans (and preliminary wording) to give the player character 3 things to say to the owner, all placed behind a new "I'd like to tell you something" option under "Master/Mistress?" If you dislike them you don't have to see them, and you'll only get to say one of them per day. Basically they're "You're mean", "I'm glad I'm your slave", and "I love you". The first one lowers your score but doesn't earn you a punishment. It's an immersive way to keep your score down (if you want that) by expressing displeasure without being defiant. The second is the opposite, though you'll only have a chance for a score increase, for saying that you like the thing you asked for. The last one will result in responses similar to "That's nice, sweetie". You won't be having a heartwarming moment, and you won't get a score increase. Maybe the owner is messing with you (the playful side of things), maybe the owner doesn't have those feelings for you, or maybe the owner is involved with someone else (another follower?) and simply likes doing kinky stuff with you. This mod can't make assumptions about that. Anything approaching love or romance really belongs in a romance mod or custom follower mod, where they can be done well. So that's as close as I personally intend to get. MrEsturk may want to do something different in that area. I'm just speaking for myself. You're welcome. MrEsturk took this reboot a log way, and I know that he has some ideas for more fun things that he hasn't done yet. I've enjoyed working on it while he's on a break, and I look forward to playing it. Fair enough I use this mod since I mainly keep my pc spouse as her master and turn off the forced prostitution and other things that don't interest me. Its hard finding mods that dont try to subject the pc to cruelty but still allow to their favorite follower or spouse to maintain some soft sort of dominance over them. if it gets too intense for my pc, I usually just opt out of the deal and then go back to it when I'm up for her being dominated again. Cant wait to see whats planned more for this mod
rjn Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/27/2020 at 9:15 AM, Psalam said: You know, I am tempted to make a new follower just for this mod. My problem is that I am not sure what I want from it. Some nasty dialogue probably so that even as a vanilla follower he has an attitude. My thoughts along that line tend toward a Thalmor justiciar maybe. I thought "Carry On Skyrim - Professor Ben Doon" on Nexus was a fantastic choice of follower for Lola. He's cranky, hates bard's, needs a drink and is never happy about the weather. He also complains about your house and about your walking everywhere. He's got 1300 lines of voiced dialog. He's just the kind of crochety old fart who would insist on calling someone "Lola".
Skelletoncz Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 6 hours ago, HexBolt8 said: Feature & Fix Update This is a complete patch for version 0.87. You don't need earlier patches. I'll ask MrEsturk about making this one an official 0.88 version. Submissive Lola Resubmission Patch - 29 July 2020.7z 147.45 kB · 22 downloads Content: Reveal hidden contents Whoring Overtime Impress your owner by servicing 1 to 4 more clients after meeting your quota, and increase your score reward by up to 60%. Dancing This mod uses the dance moves from ZAP 8. Neither MrEsturk nor I were aware that ZAP 7 doesn't have them. So that you don't just stand there, if ZAP 8 is not detected you'll perform Cicero's dance. You won't miss out on any content from this mod; you just won't dance well. For what it's worth, Cicero's dance was used in the original Submissive Lola (though dancing was in fewer places) so you'll be having the "classic" experience. If you have ZAP 8, you MUST go to the Mod Integration page and refresh the mod list or you too will dance like Cicero. Devious Followers Continued Resistance Loss Added a mod event call to notify DFC of resistance loss events. The MCM has a setting on the Rules page for the base amount of resistance lost, which is multiplied by the event severity, ranging from 1 for kneeling and asking to be of service, to 4 for a punishment whipping. The base amount can be set to zero to disable this feature. DFC is not required, but the resistance loss setting is meaningless without it. It probably isn't a good fit to add DFC resistance loss for more events. For one thing, too many instances of this can crush your resistance. It's better to have a few places for noteworthy resistance loss. Right now that's kneeling and asking to be of service, plus spanking & whipping. Another difficultly is that the mod can't know your character's personality. For most, a naked walk through Whiterun would be enormously humiliating, but an exhibitionist would love it. No reasonable person enjoys forced prostitution, but a fantasy hentai nympho would. Spank That Ass Added a mod event call to notify Spank That Ass (if installed) that spanking has occurred. I am not committing this mod to supporting Spank That Ass. If this mod event call works, great. If it doesn't, then Spank That Ass notification won't happen. Adjustments Fixed preserving some of your score if you leave enslavement but submit yourself again to the same master (without having another master in between). The quest was clearing the variable for the last owner when it restarted. I fixed that. I also modified the amount of score you keep. You keep either half your score or your score - 20, whichever is greater. That will help anyone with a score over 40. NOTE: If you are currently released from your old master, this fix will not help you because the fix occurs at moment you're freed. It will help you if you ever leave and return again, though. Added handling for when you dismiss your owner as a follower but you remain enslaved. Dismissing your owner isn't so much supported as it is handled. You should not be given new tasks, score decay will be on hold, and you will not lose score for failure to meet your quota for offering service. However, your contract time is also on hold, so it will not be counting down until you make your owner a follower again, and worn item requirements are still enforced. If you want to be freed from a restriction, do that before dismissing your owner. I think I've fixed the gender matching problem reported by ryanmayfair. It was just a small adjustment but I think I got it. Let me know if you're still seeing gender mismatches for the I Am Famous quest. Armor restriction for being nude for 48 hours should now let you ask for release afterwards. Remember that the "Owner Rejects Rule Changes" setting applies, so you might not get what you want on the first try. Owners should be less prone to raging hormone syndrome, particularly a problem when the slave is naked. Owners should be fully satisfied by sex now, though you might still have to manually adjust your master's time rate in your SL Arousal mod's MCM if it gets too high. Remember however that owners gain some arousal from spanking and whipping you. Fixed a false positive for Masturbation Denial. I discovered that some 2-person animations have the "Masturbation" tag. Grrrr. I added exclusions for "masturbation" animations that also have the tags "MF", "FF", "MM", or "Threesome". If you come across others like this, please report it but *please* include the list of that animation's tags. I might not have that animation installed. You can find an animation's tags in-game in the SexLab MCM under Toggle Animations. Select the animation and its tag list will be shown in the help text box. Fixed your old name not being restored when leaving enslavement if your name had been changed to Lola. Added a lengthy cooldown to the Lights Out and Hairstyle games. However, asking to end the Hairstyle game early will now always be refused. Placed a copy of Submissive Lola in the library area of the Bard's College, on the counter near the pitcher. I don't plan to add any more. Didn't Make the Cut A few items are in development but didn't make it into this update: I'm working on making the Lights Out game better by reducing the duration to 24 hours and allowing you to end it cleanly afterwards without losing score. It will have a 10 day cooldown. Hopefully people will want to play this game with those changes. I want the owner's dialog to change if you left enslavement and you're returning. Going through the same speech makes no sense (I got to see it a lot during testing). I'm considering adding spanking or whipping if you choose to leave enslavement ("It hurts me that you don't want to be my slave, so before I release you you're going to feel some pain too.") It's like an ugly break-up. Thoughts on this? Possibility? The owner orders Lola to have sex with Dromeda. This will lead to the curse of Bimo Lola. Mod SexLab Hormones soft request.
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