Simple Slavery Plus Plus

[Hex Bolt]

2 minutes ago, Tayte said:

Hmm, is the mcm supposed to show up from the get go?

Usually within a few seconds, if it's the only new mod that you just installed.

 

3 minutes ago, Tayte said:

Perhaps I need to be enslaved first or did I download it wrong?

You don't have to be enslaved first.  This mod's function is to help get you enslaved.  The only way you could download it wrong would be to choose the wrong game version (LE vs. SE).

 

6 minutes ago, Tayte said:

Could also be it requires a new game?

No.  You can add it at any time.  If you have a very large number of mods, you might have exceeded the MCM limit.

 

Check that you don't have loose scripts anywhere from an older version.  The files names begin with sslv.  The current SE version has no loose scripts, but the LE version has several that should be present.

 

You might also try generating a papyrus log and looking through it for startup messages with SSLV or "Simple Slavery".

[catcalled2]

17 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

You are not using Simple Slavery Plus Plus 6.3.19.  If you were, you would see 3 tabs on the left:  Settings, Freedom Fund, and System.  The most likely cause is that you installed something that decided to "patch" (break) Simple Slavery.  Remove the offending patch, and you will have SS++ 6.3.19, which will recognize Sluts Resume.

This idiot is sorry for wasting your brain cells time.

[VoreQ]

would be GREAT if we would get put on the cross for a few minutes of humiliation if we give the slavemaster attitude ?

maybe if we do it a second time we just get left up there for all the world to admire! ?

 

fantastic job with this mod Hex!

[NobodyMan22]

I cordially apologize for directing my rant in the wrong way.

Edited June 29, 2023 by NobodyMan22
some military grade stupidity

[jfraser]

19 minutes ago, NobodyMan22 said:

Playtested it a little. Looked like a great opportunity for extra cash and like a better choice than running SLUTS errands.

With a deep sense of regret I have to admit that either I'm unlucky - or here and now this mod can serve well as death/punishment alternative ONLY.

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Went to Whiterun with brand-new character.

Asked the official pimp if I'm allowed to do some prawn hustle. Was accepted.

Met the quota of 27 persons. In 1 (one) day (instead of demanded 7 days). Some people failed to pay - but even in worst case scenario I had spare cash to turn in, it was enough to cover the difference.

Reported to pimp.

Got "hey, guards told me you served more people" response o_O

Got "promoted" from voluntary to involuntary "worker" o____O With literally NO option to alleviate the situation by any other means.

OK, all Gold disappeared. OK. Few coins here and there were indeed stolen.

But I've carried 2k worth of stuff on me. Give me a chance to sell it or confiscate it or whatnot dammit!

Not mentioning that Common Sense sez that commoners not paying for Jarl's property usage are pimp's problem, not worker's. That's at least 30% of pimp's work, you know.

I do understand that, as with SLUTS, it could be a trick to... how should I call it... enroll the Player.

SLUTS give enough clues on what to expect for a Player willing to ponder what he'll gonna get himself into.

SS++ dumps the Player. Literally. Which is... somewhat justified (the man from DD cohort which was brave enough to state that "Skyrim Is Misogynic" was both brave AND right) - but having a backup plan (or some extra red flags to show the Player that he's about to do an irrecoverable mistake) would be really, really nice.

Not sure which mod you’re talking about but it’s not this one. None of that is part of Simple Slavery. 

[NobodyMan22]

4 minutes ago, jfraser said:

None of that is part of Simple Slavery. 

Maaaaaaaaan, you're absolutely correct. It was from Public Whore - or so it looks.

Daaaaaaamn.

*sigh*

Sometimes I'm so stupid...

[jfraser]

2 hours ago, NobodyMan22 said:

Maaaaaaaaan, you're absolutely correct. It was from Public Whore - or so it looks.

Daaaaaaamn.

*sigh*

Sometimes I'm so stupid...

Everyone is stupid sometimes. Like the time I sat behind a car for a solid 30 seconds after the light turned green and cursed the person for not going only to discover after I went around that there was no one in the other car and it had just been parked on the side of the road

[RileyRileyRiley]

Hey! Any recommendations for mods for SS++ to spit you out into? I was using Naked Defeat for a bit to both trigger SS++ as well as provide scenarios for it to have SS++ spit characters into, but after issue after issue I decided to ditch it and find a new defeat framework.

 

Having lost the scenarios NaDe has for SS++ to lead into, though, I really need to find some that function so this mod has somewhere to put me. Any ideas of which ones aren't really outdated and dysfunctional?

[CaptainJ03]

20 minutes ago, VulpineScream said:

Hey! Any recommendations for mods for SS++ to spit you out into?

Submissive Lola of course, and as it has just reappeared after some years in the void, Captured Dreams.

 

Devious Followers has slavery content, but Lupine hasn't been seen for over a year now.

Cursed Loot has some scenarios, but we hope for an update, as there are some minor bugs in the quests.

[Hex Bolt]

24 minutes ago, VulpineScream said:

Any recommendations for mods for SS++ to spit you out into?

It really depends on what you're looking for.  If you'd like an escape situation with bondage, the Cidhna pirates and bandits outcomes are good for that.  They're really designed to be played just once each per game, though.  For female characters, SLUTS offers a repeatable indentured slave scenario with a clear path to freedom.  A few outcomes let you keep playing to varying degrees as a slave to a master, who might also be your follower, depending on the mod.  Each of these types of enslavement has a different feel.

[RileyRileyRiley]

17 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Submissive Lola of course, and as it has just reappeared after some years in the void, Captured Dreams.

 

Devious Followers has slavery content, but Lupine hasn't been seen for over a year now.

Cursed Loot has some scenarios, but we hope for an update, as there are some minor bugs in the quests.

 

Hm, I sort of looking for mods that SS++ sells you into along the lines of being used as a slave in various scenarios fitting into the world. Submissive Lola doesn't really sound like that at all? More like a sub and dom dynamic between your character and a chosen other, and Captured Dreams seems more focused on a sex shop with a sidenote of being a "shop slave"?

 

For reference, Naked Defeat had a number of scenarios you could be sold into out of SS++, such as a slave in a Forsworn camp, put on a farm with dogs, forced to serve the public in a hold, etc. Not looking for any of those in absolute particular, but I was hoping to find something along those lines, or a couple mods that touched on things like that (and functioned, unliked Naked Defeat sadly).

[Hex Bolt]

29 minutes ago, VulpineScream said:

Naked Defeat had a number of scenarios you could be sold into out of SS++, such as a slave in a Forsworn camp, put on a farm with dogs, forced to serve the public in a hold, etc. Not looking for any of those in absolute particular, but I was hoping to find something along those lines, or a couple mods that touched on things like that (and functioned, unliked Naked Defeat sadly).

Sanguine's Debauchery+ is probably closest to just being a slave.  Public Whore would certainly have you "serving the public".

 

As you've no doubt noticed, there aren't that many enslavement mods.  Some get off to a promising start and then languish.  It's a lot of work.  They're difficult to write for a player-centric game like Skyrim, and harder still to have them be fun.

[jfraser]

43 minutes ago, VulpineScream said:

 

Hm, I sort of looking for mods that SS++ sells you into along the lines of being used as a slave in various scenarios fitting into the world. Submissive Lola doesn't really sound like that at all? More like a sub and dom dynamic between your character and a chosen other, and Captured Dreams seems more focused on a sex shop with a sidenote of being a "shop slave"?

 

For reference, Naked Defeat had a number of scenarios you could be sold into out of SS++, such as a slave in a Forsworn camp, put on a farm with dogs, forced to serve the public in a hold, etc. Not looking for any of those in absolute particular, but I was hoping to find something along those lines, or a couple mods that touched on things like that (and functioned, unliked Naked Defeat sadly).

Well, there is Slaves of Tamriel. it is as immersive of an experience as i've ever had in this game. and someone is working on a new and improved version! not sure if that one connects with SS yet, though

 

 

 

 

 

Hex, has @ponzipyramid contacted you at all about his new version?

 

[Hex Bolt]

18 minutes ago, jfraser said:

Hex, has @ponzipyramid contacted you at all about his new version?

No, but seeing as it's currently labeled as WIP and the mod page says this about it, I don't think the author feels it's at the right point yet:  "This is a work-in-progress i.e. you should only install this mod at this stage if you are interested in contributing to development and reporting bugs."

[RileyRileyRiley]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

Sanguine's Debauchery+ is probably closest to just being a slave.  Public Whore would certainly have you "serving the public".

 

As you've no doubt noticed, there aren't that many enslavement mods.  Some get off to a promising start and then languish.  It's a lot of work.  They're difficult to write for a player-centric game like Skyrim, and harder still to have them be fun.

 

Yeah, I do recall some very... fun times with Sanguine's years ago modding oldrim, so I was hesitant to pick it up again haha. But fair enough, maybe I will give it a try again if there's really not much out there. I guess I just thought I must be missing something coming back after so long and there still being no straight-forward, stable punishment/defeat sort of mods around. I'm not especially looking for in depth quest sort of mods, just like "Welp, you were beaten by bandits and thrown in their camp. They fuck you till you manage to escape" and that sort of thing. 

 

I know that certainly falls into the realm of Sanguine's and NaDe, I've just had such frustrating experiences with both of them. Oh well, thanks for the ideas. 

 

 

1 hour ago, jfraser said:

Well, there is Slaves of Tamriel. it is as immersive of an experience as i've ever had in this game. and someone is working on a new and improved version! not sure if that one connects with SS yet, though

 

That one does sound pretty cool. I was looking into it when I installed SS++, it just didn't seem all that put together yet and a bit out of date, so I wasn't sure. Has it worked decently for you? I'm on 1.59.7 SE running Sexlab 163 for reference.

[Guest]

SOTR doesn't connect with SS++ yet, primarily because I'm trying to decide on what a good way to start up the quest would be while still giving me options to send the player to different camps (if I ever get around to adding them). I'm assuming some kind of "starter" quest would work here?

 

52 minutes ago, VulpineScream said:

That one does sound pretty cool. I was looking into it when I installed SS++, it just didn't seem all that put together yet and a bit out of date, so I wasn't sure. Has it worked decently for you? I'm on 1.59.7 SE running Sexlab 163 for reference.

 

It should work on SE but it's very much a WIP. I had my hands full with Devious Followers Framework for a bit but I'm turning my attention back to it now. Although, I'm not sure if SOTR is what you're looking for. The intention is for it to be an extended but hopefully interesting experience that you can be sent to multiple times over the course of a playthrough.

 

CodeSerpent was planning on adding a captivity system more in line with your tastes to Peril but you can get something like that in her previous iteration, Dragonborn in Distress. IIRC, it doesn't connect with SS++.

Edited June 29, 2023 by ponzipyramid

[Hex Bolt]

31 minutes ago, ponzipyramid said:

I'm assuming some kind of "starter" quest would work here?

If you mean for the handoff from Simple Slavery, a brief indoctrination would work well.  "Welcome to your new life in the mines, slave.  Don't cause trouble, etc."  If you track the number of enslavements, repeat visits could change to "Our records show that you've done this before.  Good, you know what's expected."  The preferred startup mechanism from Simple Slavery's perspective is starting a quest or sending a mod event.  If it's starting a quest, you can easily test your introduction with a console command.

[RileyRileyRiley]

28 minutes ago, ponzipyramid said:

SOTR doesn't connect with SS++ yet, primarily because I'm trying to decide on what a good way to start up the quest would be while still giving me options to send the player to different camps (if I ever get around to adding them). I'm assuming some kind of "starter" quest would work here?

 

 

It should work on SE but it's very much a WIP. I had my hands full with Devious Followers Framework for a bit but I'm turning my attention back to it now. Although, I'm not sure if SOTR is what you're looking for. The intention is for it to be an extended but hopefully interesting experience that you can be sent to multiple times over the course of a playthrough.

 

CodeSerpent was planning on adding a captivity system more in line with your tastes to Peril but you can get something like that in her previous iteration, Dragonborn in Distress. IIRC, it doesn't connect with SS++.

 

Honestly SOTR fits right into the sort of defeat > auction > slavery thing I'm looking for, but I am trying to keep my mod list to more or less complete and functioning things. That's why I ditched NaDe; fantastic concept to cover a lot of mechanics and content, but just wholly unfinished and broken. I'm sure SOTR is playable though, so if I can't find anything else I may give it a try sooner rather than later, but I'll certainly be keeping an eye out for SS integration, because I really need stuff for it to feed into.

 

I'll keep an eye on Peril too; I really just want some generic consequences for defeat haha. I'm surprised there aren't some simple ones in good working order in 2023.

[BUSSA95]

I am getting the integrity error message when going into the slavery tab on MCM.

 

I updated my ZAZ to get some prison animations working, however it seems this has made the Slavery stop working, downloaded latest version still no luck.

 

I can go to the auction house but nothing works from there - using the console not the MCM.

 

Any help as I'd still class myself as fairly noob but can do technical things if pointed in right direction

[Hex Bolt]

6 minutes ago, BUSSA95 said:

I am getting the integrity error message when going into the slavery tab on MCM.

Welcome to LoversLab!

 

Something is overriding Simple Slavery script files.  You might just have some older version around, but the most likely cause is a patch from another mod that's reverting one or more Simple Slavery scripts to older, obsolete versions.  Look through your mod list for Simple Slavery patches and remove them (they're breaking Simple Slavery, so they're no use to you anyway).

[myhouseatl]

Holy crap I need some help.  Slavery works fine. I got enslaved by a vampire.  After a few minutes, the vampires died, without my input and the quest is completed.  After leaving the cave, I get a quest complete again... Something about being a play thing.

  Now, if anything hits me, I go into the slave pose that I choose in the MCM of Simple Slavery.  (The "X" pose when you are being auctioned.)  If I remove my weapon, I am back to normal movement until something hits me again.

Reloading doesn't help.  Any ideas?  Anything I can do to get out of the pose?  I tried ResetAI and enableplayercontrols.  That didn't help.  

[Hex Bolt]

20 minutes ago, myhouseatl said:

Holy crap I need some help.

The pose on the auction platform is a one-time idle.  Simple Slavery cancels it when the auction ends, or you can simply jump to clear it.  Nothing from Simple Slavery forces the pose to persist.  Nothing from Simple Slavery changes combat animations.

 

You're describing an enslavement outcome.  At that point, Simple Slavery is finished and has shut down, waiting for the next enslavement.  If you're having problems, the author of the enslavement mod with the vampire should be able to help you.  You also might be having animation overrides from a combat mod, but all of that is outside Simple Slavery's control.

[Anunya]

On 6/29/2023 at 10:56 AM, VulpineScream said:

Hey! Any recommendations for mods for SS++ to spit you out into? I was using Naked Defeat for a bit to both trigger SS++ as well as provide scenarios for it to have SS++ spit characters into, but after issue after issue I decided to ditch it and find a new defeat framework.

 

Having lost the scenarios NaDe has for SS++ to lead into, though, I really need to find some that function so this mod has somewhere to put me. Any ideas of which ones aren't really outdated and dysfunctional?

 

The ones I use (SE) are:

• Public Whore
• Devious Followers Continued
• Naked Defeat
• Submissive Lola

There's also a hook for Dealing With (Sexual) Daedra. Right now I'm having issues with it in my modlist, but I really enjoy that mod so I'll include it if I can figure it out.

 

I think S.L.U.T.S - Resumed also works fine with SS++ I think, but I don't use it personally.

[myhouseatl]

Edit:

Your right.  It was Devious Cidhna.  I'll got over there and check with them...

Edited July 5, 2023 by myhouseatl

[WandererZero]

On 7/4/2023 at 6:39 PM, HexBolt8 said:

Something is overriding Simple Slavery script files.  You might just have some older version around, but the most likely cause is a patch from another mod that's reverting one or more Simple Slavery scripts to older, obsolete versions.  Look through your mod list for Simple Slavery patches and remove them (they're breaking Simple Slavery, so they're no use to you anyway).

 

Nope. I started having this problem with a brand new playthrough. Script integrity error.

 

It's not a "culprit" per se. It's a new mod, which has a mod which includes patches for LL stuff, including SS++.

 

My guess is, you may want to look at the patches, and perhaps patch up SS++ for this eventuality. I'd definitely look into it as Improved Camera is the new hotness, which replaces IFPV and Joy of Perspective.

 

In other words, it's going to start to come up a lot.

 

My initial tests so far, is that the patch hasn't done anything to inhibit SS++...it's just causing SS to throw the error. I'll try to test more as I go, see if I can find actual breakage.

 

Cheers.

Edited July 6, 2023 by WandererZero