Simple Slavery Plus Plus

[blackkatt]

I get captured and end up on the ship. I'm not forced marched like I was told and I can not move. I just lay on the floor unable to stand. What's wrong/

[erynyes]

3 minutes ago, blackkatt said:

I get captured and end up on the ship. I'm not forced marched like I was told and I can not move. I just lay on the floor unable to stand. What's wrong/

maybe telling us wich mod you got enabled for simple slavery outcome would help us troubleshooting your issue, what you said is pretty vague, simple slavery just deal with the selling of PC, what happens after is a matter of wich mods you got installed and are detected by SS+, if you got issues after being sold it may be a problem with the mod dealing with the aftermath outcome and not a simple slavery issue

[blackkatt]

I got it to work. Seems my issue was not installing the new file from ZAZ. However now I have the issue where I'm in the cell, can walk around and speak to people but can't seem to speak to the person I need to to get released

[blackkatt]

My apologies. I was using Plus SE then I read that wasn't supported so I upgraded to Simple Slavery Plus Plus. It all seems to be working except I saw I was supposed to speak to a slaver by the cell. There is a man there but he just gives the standard hello there... nice day.. etc no actual conversation. There is also a slave at the far end of the cell but also just standard conversation. So I'm unclear who I'm supposed to be speaking to as there are only two options

[Hex Bolt]

5 minutes ago, blackkatt said:

...I upgraded to Simple Slavery Plus Plus. It all seems to be working except I saw I was supposed to speak to a slaver by the cell. There is a man there but he just gives the standard hello there... nice day.. etc no actual conversation.

I'm assuming that you're now talking about the slave market.  Earlier, you had mentioned a ship.  Something seems to be wrong with your installation.  You might try reinstalling this mod.

 

8 minutes ago, blackkatt said:

There is also a slave at the far end of the cell but also just standard conversation. So I'm unclear who I'm supposed to be speaking to as there are only two options

If you're in the slave market, there are four options, not two.  There's the Slavemaster and 3 slaves.  Something is really not right with your installation, or you're describing something other than the slave market.

[donttouchmethere]

8 hours ago, blackkatt said:

I get captured and end up on the ship. I'm not forced marched like I was told and I can not move. I just lay on the floor unable to stand. What's wrong/

Sounds like: Devious Cidhna (the pirate quest) - with thanks to stobor ?‍☠️?

Or Captured Dreams if you are a LL Oldtimer. ?

Or SL Stories + SL Devious Stories ?

 

I never recognized we have that many ship related SS+ outcomes ?

Edited May 29, 2023 by donttouchmethere

[blackkatt]

Let me see if I can do a better job with the description. The first time I said on a ship cause I was laying on a floor and couldn't turn around so that's what it appeared to be to me at the time. Now that I fixed that issue I see three slaves chained up, they all give generic responses like huh, what etc. At the far end of the area is a slave think her name is Henrietta Jacobs and there is a man next to the cage named John Randall. Speaking to all of these people is giving me simple generic responses and not getting me released. So am I missing  something? I assumed John Randall was the one to talk to but it doesn't seem to work. 

[Hex Bolt]

12 minutes ago, blackkatt said:

Henrietta Jacobs and there is a man next to the cage named John Randall

You're describing the older Simple Slavery Plus.  In Plus Plus, those two are just named Slave and Slavemaster.  You said earlier that you had switched to Plus Plus.  It looks like that didn't work, or possibly you have both versions active.

 

If you're not far into your game, starting a new game should clear up the problem with Plus lingering around.

Edited May 29, 2023 by HexBolt8

[jfraser]

1 hour ago, blackkatt said:

Let me see if I can do a better job with the description. The first time I said on a ship cause I was laying on a floor and couldn't turn around so that's what it appeared to be to me at the time. Now that I fixed that issue I see three slaves chained up, they all give generic responses like huh, what etc. At the far end of the area is a slave think her name is Henrietta Jacobs and there is a man next to the cage named John Randall. Speaking to all of these people is giving me simple generic responses and not getting me released. So am I missing  something? I assumed John Randall was the one to talk to but it doesn't seem to work. 

 

58 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

You're describing the older Simple Slavery Plus.  In Plus Plus, those two are just named Slave and Slavemaster.  You said earlier that you had switched to Plus Plus.  It looks like that didn't work, or possibly you have both versions active.

 

If you're not far into your game, starting a new game should clear up the problem with Plus lingering around.

 But first, make sure there is no sign of the older version in your load. If it doesn’t look like it’s installed, remove SS++, go into the scripts folder and remove any lingering scripts that start with SSLV_ then reinstall. 

[Futters]

On 5/29/2023 at 2:55 AM, HexBolt8 said:

Zaz Animation Packs for SE.  The download links for ZAP 8 are halfway down the page.

 

I made a note to myself to change the name on the mod page to Zaz Animation Pack when I publish the next version.

 

Edit:  It looks like Futters found it while I was responding, but I'll leave this here in case it helps anyone else.

 

I did indeed find it, and in my half-assed attempt to edit my post I deleted it instead. I'm glad you noticed, because that was indeed the problem. Turned out at the correct file was hidding deep at the bottom of the thread and was easy to overlook, at least for me. But seeing how many people make it work just fine, I take the liberty of assuming that I'm just dense

[cockroach666]

still in cell when choosing slavery with the alternate start mod.

[Hex Bolt]

20 minutes ago, cockroach666 said:

still in cell when choosing slavery with the alternate start mod.

Might not work in starting cell.

[Hex Bolt]

Version 6.3.19

 

New:  A new topic with the Slavemaster, "I'm really hungry."  You'll be fed two apples.
New:  You can ask the auctioneer or slavemaster about the crux slave.  Responses differ with which side of the bars you're on.
New:  Expressing a special interest in the crux to the slavemaster while in the cage causes a unique auction scene to play.
New:  The crux slave has a few blocking topic lines to prevent inappropriate conversations.
Changed:  If "Remove inventory when enslaved" is enabled and you're freed by your Freedom Fund, your items are returned.
Changed:  There is now only one topic to start the auction, "When do I get out of here?  [Start auction]"
Changed:  You now have different remarks to make to the Slavemaster on your first, second, and subsequent enslavements.
- These are based on the old system that attempted to track the number of enslavements.  That works now.
Changed:  Removed the pillar behind the Slavemaster so you can easily have a face to face conversation.
Changed:  You should more reliably be facing forward when you arrive in the slave pen.
Changed:  Fixed NPCs that lacked a voice type or that had the wrong gender voice.
- The voice types now match those used in ExecutaBall's voice pack.
- That voice pack's voice patch is no longer needed, and it should not be used because it overwrites other mod features.
Changed:  The display slave can no longer be spoken to.
Changed:  Altered some NPC names.  For example, Slaren and Slareni are now Saren and Lareni.
Fixed:  Stopped the annoying angle change when the PC is moved to the platform.

 

SE conversion by Herowynne.

 

@Executaball, as noted above, the voice pack's patch should no longer be needed.  A few existing lines were tweaked, new lines added, and a new auction scene added.

Edited June 1, 2023 by HexBolt8

[shiagwen]

Thanks for the update Hex.

 

One comment from me about the prices. In my translation i changed hundreds into thousands. A horse costs 1000 gold, do you think a slave is cheaper then a horse ? If the slave has to work as a prostitute to get her price back, how many clients she has to do if she is bought for 400 ?  Make ot 4000 and you get a ealistic price. even above 10k , simply prices x 10.

 

one more thing. Instead of leaving her free if no appropriate mod is installed, she get an innkeeper as master, who prostitutes her in that inn.  - Well, if the player has no prostitution mod that starts at an inn, then ss++ really doesnt need to be installed.-  It is a bit work, but ss++ becomes more independent.  Really, the list of mods to go to looks long, but if you want to choose one you end up with  a srapyard except Lola. Most are old and buggy, some are strange and unusable, some dont work at all like, Maria Eden. (still in the list, as i said, a scrapyard)

[Hex Bolt]

56 minutes ago, shiagwen said:

A horse costs 1000 gold, do you think a slave is cheaper then a horse ?

As you probably know, items for sale at auction typically have a listed minimum price, or "asking price".  The first bid must be that price or higher.  All prices mentioned during the auction are increases to the minimum price.  For example, here is the first line from one scene:  "Next up is a strong specimen, but attractive too.  Good for fields, mines, or bedrooms.  Who'll offer the asking price?"  Bidders then offer amounts more that the asking price (which is never stated), much like raising the bet in poker, until no one raises the bid.  ("Twelve hundred over minimum going once....")  The minimum price can be anything that you think is appropriate.

 

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

Instead of leaving her free if no appropriate mod is installed, she get an innkeeper as master, who prostitutes her in that inn.

Mods remain sane and stable by staying within their scope.  Building in a default outcome with prostitution is well outside Simple Slavery's scope.

 

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

Really, the list of mods to go to looks long, but if you want to choose one you end up with  a srapyard....

That probably says something about the difficulty of writing enslavement mods.

 

1 hour ago, shiagwen said:

Most are old and buggy, some are strange and unusable, some dont work at all like, Maria Eden.

I will remove Maria Eden in the next update.  Even back in Simple Slavery Plus, that outcome did nothing.  In past discussions, there was no practical method of triggering Maria Eden after the auction that was acceptable to the author, so it's remained in the list as a do-nothing placeholder.

[Gudulba]

On 6/1/2023 at 2:26 AM, HexBolt8 said:

Version 6.3.19

 

New:  A new topic with the Slavemaster, "I'm really hungry."  You'll be fed two apples.
New:  You can ask the auctioneer or slavemaster about the crux slave.  Responses differ with which side of the bars you're on.
New:  Expressing a special interest in the crux to the slavemaster while in the cage causes a unique auction scene to play.
New:  The crux slave has a few blocking topic lines to prevent inappropriate conversations.
Changed:  If "Remove inventory when enslaved" is enabled and you're freed by your Freedom Fund, your items are returned.
Changed:  There is now only one topic to start the auction, "When do I get out of here?  [Start auction]"
Changed:  You now have different remarks to make to the Slavemaster on your first, second, and subsequent enslavements.
- These are based on the old system that attempted to track the number of enslavements.  That works now.
Changed:  Removed the pillar behind the Slavemaster so you can easily have a face to face conversation.
Changed:  You should more reliably be facing forward when you arrive in the slave pen.
Changed:  Fixed NPCs that lacked a voice type or that had the wrong gender voice.
- The voice types now match those used in ExecutaBall's voice pack.
- That voice pack's voice patch is no longer needed, and it should not be used because it overwrites other mod features.
Changed:  The display slave can no longer be spoken to.
Changed:  Altered some NPC names.  For example, Slaren and Slareni are now Saren and Lareni.
Fixed:  Stopped the annoying angle change when the PC is moved to the platform.

 

SE conversion by Herowynne.

 

@Executaball, as noted above, the voice pack's patch should no longer be needed.  A few existing lines were tweaked, new lines added, and a new auction scene added.

I have got a voice pack for version 6.3.18. But I can't find anymore where exactly I got it from here on Loverslab.

 

Edit: I found it. It's from here.

Edited June 2, 2023 by Gudulba

[just_Gina]

@ Shiagwen: A horse costs 1000 gold, do you think a slave is cheaper than a horse?

 

Actually, i think about this often, and yes, a horse would cost more. Unless the buyer is a brothel or pimp, a horse provides much more value for the coin.

A horse works harder and costs much less to feed. Field slaves would have about the same longevity, whereas mine slaves would be worked to death in a 

relatively short time. All-in-all, much more bang for the buck from a horse, excepting whores, of course, who earn coin for the owners.

But since there probably is no way SS can differentiate which mods are which, it remains to the player to decide what is best for their game. 

 

[donttouchmethere]

2 hours ago, just_Gina said:

@ Shiagwen: A horse costs 1000 gold, do you think a slave is cheaper than a horse?

Hey, what about Pony Girls? The FedEx of Skyrim! They even know (mostly) the way on their own.

I would be very offended if at the next SS++ auction my PC is set free and instead all buyers bid on one horse (in chains). ?

Being sold is humiliating enough, but when a horse also steals the attention.... ?

 

[Dorabella]

I have a small problem. Despite having installed SS , at the end of the auction , I am released 

[Hex Bolt]

14 minutes ago, ?????? 1627 said:

Despite having installed SS , at the end of the auction , I am released 

You must have selected at least one outcome, or you will be released.  Since you didn't say you'd selected any, that's probably what happened.

 

Beyond that, check that you do not have any old loose scripts lying around.  The MCM should have 3 pages:  "Settings", "Freedom Fund", and "System".  A recent version will have Dealing With Daedra as a possible outcome.

[Dorabella]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

Beyond that, check that you do not have any old loose scripts lying around. 

Having never installed SS, I have no old scripts around

 

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

The MCM should have 3 pages:  "Settings", "Freedom Fund", and "System".

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

Need add amount into  Current freedom fund amount ? 

[Naps-On-Dirt]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

A recent version will have Dealing With Daedra as a possible outcome.

Does this mean the most recent version already has that outcome, or the next upcoming version will?  Now I need to check if I'm up to date.

[Hex Bolt]

12 minutes ago, ?????? 1627 said:

Having never installed SS, I have no old scripts around

My first guess was right.  Your MCM screen shot shows that you have no enslavement mods installed.  Simple Slavery has nowhere to send you after the auction, so it releases you.  You must install at least one enslavement mod, and then select in Simple Slavery's MCM.

[Dorabella]

1 minute ago, HexBolt8 said:

You must install at least one enslavement mod, and then select in Simple Slavery's MCM.

thank's

[Hex Bolt]

3 minutes ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

Does this mean the most recent version already has that outcome, or the next upcoming version will?

The Change Log on the front page lists all the changes, version by version.