Simple Slavery Plus Plus

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, Corsec said:

So I'm really interested in the Rad Pros indebted outcome. So how does SS++ choose where to send the player, how much debt and to what NPC do you owe the debt?

I don't know.  The usual process is that the outcome mod does all the work and has all the functionality, while Simple Slavery just starts it up using a mechanism that the mod author and I agree on, and that's true here.  My involvement was minimal.  The RP-RMCW mod page has a brief description and says, "There are 2 new MCM options for this."  I'd ask over there for more details.

 

1 hour ago, Corsec said:

Is there any way to get Rad Pros debt to an sLOLA Owner?

Not that I know of.  No one has approached me about that.  But this is getting off-topic for Simple Slavery.

Edited September 17, 2023 by HexBolt8

[AlexanderClan]

Hi, thank you for the mod!

For v6.3.20, I seem to be getting the "Script Integrity Check Failed" error both when updating mid-game and when starting a brand new game, with no error present when reverting back to v6.3.19 in either case.

LO of requirements, core mod, and outcome mods:

• ZazAnimationPack.esm (Latest - 8.0+)
• Public Whore.esp (Latest - 1.2.4)
• Devious Followers.esp (Latest - 2.14.5)
• SimpleSlavery.esp
• Submissivelola_est.esp (Latest - 2.1)
• MF_RadiantProstitution (Latest - RMCW Edition - 8.1.1)
• Naked Defeat (Latest - 4.81)
• Simple Slavery Voice.esp (Project Echo - Latest - 6.3.12) (Error persists with mod disabled)

Moving SimpleSlavery.esp to last loaded results in the same error. I see its been mentioned previously that this might be the scripts being overwritten, but I'm not sure how to check what would be doing that.

 

Full LO/Modlist attached.

Thank you for any and all advice you can give me!

modlist.txt

plugins.txt

Edited September 18, 2023 by AlexanderClan

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, AlexanderClan said:

For v6.3.20, I seem to be getting the "Script Integrity Check Failed" error both when updating mid-game and when starting a brand new game, with no error present when reverting back to v6.3.19 in either case.
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Moving SimpleSlavery.esp to last loaded results in the same error. I see its been mentioned previously that this might be the scripts being overwritten, but I'm not sure how to check what would be doing that.

I see Improved Camera in your mod list.  If you also installed the separate third-party patch for Simple Slavery, that has been a culprit in the past.  I'd look there and remove it if found.  It only works for version 6.3.19.

 

There are no legitimate script patches for Simple Slavery (there's at least one legit ESP patch, for Open Cities).  Be wary of "patches" that replace major scripts in other mods.  Be doubly wary of a third-party script patch like this one, since its author might not have any commitment to either mod being patched.  It's noteworthy that the most recent comment for that patch collection says that it breaks a different LoversLab mod, and the patch's author hasn't responded for over 2 months.  A fly-by-night third-party patch has trouble written all over it.

 

If you're still having difficulty, let me know and I'll see if I can spot anything else, but it's going to be a script override from somewhere.  All Simple Slavery scripts start with SSLV, so any patch script named like that is suspect.

 

1 hour ago, AlexanderClan said:

Moving SimpleSlavery.esp to last loaded results in the same error. I see its been mentioned previously that this might be the scripts being overwritten, but I'm not sure how to check what would be doing that.

You had the right idea, but if it's just moving the ESP file to the end of your load order, that won't fix a script overwrite.

Edited September 18, 2023 by HexBolt8

[AlexanderClan]

The Improved Camera patch was indeed the culprit.
I didn't imagine that some patches both don't have an plugin or don't have overwrite files that are visible in MO2.

Thank you!

[Amber02000]

so did the maria Eden part of the quest not work? I read that in the forums and wanted to clarify. I suppose I've never had it as an outcome.

[Hex Bolt]

35 minutes ago, Amber02000 said:

so did the maria Eden part of the quest not work? I read that in the forums and wanted to clarify.

For years (going back to Simple Slavery Plus), there has been no handoff to Maria Eden after the auction.  If that outcome was selected, you were left on the platform and expected to do whatever you needed to do to choose a Maria Eden master.  Without any functionality, there was little point to it, and it was potentially confusing.

 

I see that you've joined recently.  Welcome to LoversLab!

 

Edited September 19, 2023 by HexBolt8

[Amber02000]

10 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

For years (going back to Simple Slavery Plus), there has been no handoff to Maria Eden after the auction.  If that outcome was selected, you were left on the platform and expected to do whatever you needed to do to choose a Maria Eden master.  Without any functionality, there was little point to it, and it was potentially confusing.

 

I see that you've joined recently.  Welcome to LoversLab!

 

Thank you! 

[albyznts]

I'm going to leave this here for people like me searching the thread for support. I hope that is ok.

 

If you are having the script integrity problem that everyone else has, note that file name or mod name of the relevant patch for Improved Camera does not contain the word Improved or Camera. It is called Patch Collection and it won't show as overwriting SS++ even if it is messing with it. 

 

I removed IC fully, there is no point in playing Skyrim without SS++ though 

Thanks for all your work and your detailed support in here and in lola, Hexbolt. Every couple months you bring an update that I didn't know I needed.

[jfraser]

1 hour ago, albyznts said:

 

, there is no point in playing Skyrim without SS++ 

Aww, that was a nice thing to say. 

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, albyznts said:

I removed IC fully, there is no point in playing Skyrim without SS++ though 

It shouldn't be necessary to remove Improved Camera (unless you just decided that you don't need it).  My understanding of the patch is that it just tries to keep things in first person mode during the scenes.  Without the patch, IC should work fine in general gameplay (SS++ doesn't intrude there), though you won't get the expected perspective during the auction.

[Corsec]

3 hours ago, albyznts said:

I removed IC fully, there is no point in playing Skyrim without SS++ though

 

You could try the Improved Camera Beta 4, which is available on Reddit and is script free, SKSE-only.

[albyznts]

7 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

It shouldn't be necessary to remove Improved Camera (unless you just decided that you don't need it).  My understanding of the patch is that it just tries to keep things in first person mode during the scenes.  Without the patch, IC should work fine in general gameplay (SS++ doesn't intrude there), though you won't get the expected perspective during the auction.

5 hours ago, Corsec said:

 

You could try the Improved Camera Beta 4, which is available on Reddit and is script free, SKSE-only.

IC seems to have a lot of trouble with anything involving animations (or tfc), so, in my experience, dancing, sex or even kneeling when you are in third person will break the first person camera's point of reference until the animation finishes. Even if the benefits of IC are quite notable in general, it really doesn't play nice with most sexlab related mods out of the box and it generally requires going out of your way to remove any tfc instances, and not all of them are in MCM. I took advantage of these last updates to really trim my modlist, but I could give it another try, thanks for the beta heads up.

[Chogouze]

Is there any way to change the slave gear being equipped upon capture? I'd like to have another armor as default slave gear

Thanks

[Hex Bolt]

27 minutes ago, Chogouze said:

Is there any way to change the slave gear being equipped upon capture?

No, but you don't have it on for long.  You can also choose to have nothing equipped.

[Dodzh]

I just installed the 6.3.20 for SE and having insta crash as soon as I load any save. I currently have 6.3.19 and working fine. when I revert back to it all works fine

[Hex Bolt]

10 minutes ago, Dodzh said:

I just installed the 6.3.20 for SE and having insta crash as soon as I load any save.

I can't explain that.  There's not that much difference between the versions, nothing that would affect loading a save.  Just checking the obvious, are you certain that you downloaded the SE version?  LE BSA files will cause a crash on loading if you're on SE.

[Dodzh]

32 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

I can't explain that.  There's not that much difference between the versions, nothing that would affect loading a save.  Just checking the obvious, are you certain that you downloaded the SE version?  LE BSA files will cause a crash on loading if you're on SE.

here is the one I got
Simple Slavery Plus Plus 6.3.20 [SE].zip

EDIT: I also installed Radiant Prostitution 8.1.1 SE.zip with the hotfix for it. Radiant Prostitution is working fine on the test I've done so far.

I also tested using ReSaver and clear any Simple Slavery Plus Plus entries and installed new version still crash
 

Edited October 10, 2023 by Dodzh

[Herowynne]

2 hours ago, Dodzh said:

here is the one I got
Simple Slavery Plus Plus 6.3.20 [SE].zip

 

6.3.20 has been available for a few weeks. This is the first report of CTD when loading a save.

 

Do you have a .NET Script Framework or Crash Logger log from the CTD?

[Dodzh]

59 minutes ago, Herowynne said:

Do you have a .NET Script Framework or Crash Logger log from the CTD?

 

if you be so kind and tell me where to locate them I can reinstall 6.3.20 and get them for you.

 

thanks

[Herowynne]

5 hours ago, Dodzh said:

if you be so kind and tell me where to locate them I can reinstall 6.3.20 and get them for you.

Crash Logger is compatible with SE and AE, and is available here: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/59818

[Mister X]

On 9/18/2023 at 4:54 AM, HexBolt8 said:

There are no legitimate script patches for Simple Slavery (there's at least one legit ESP patch, for Open Cities).  Be wary of "patches" that replace major scripts in other mods.  Be doubly wary of a third-party script patch like this one, since its author might not have any commitment to either mod being patched.  It's noteworthy that the most recent comment for that patch collection says that it breaks a different LoversLab mod, and the patch's author hasn't responded for over 2 months.  A fly-by-night third-party patch has trouble written all over it.

 

If you're still having difficulty, let me know and I'll see if I can spot anything else, but it's going to be a script override from somewhere.  All Simple Slavery scripts start with SSLV, so any patch script named like that is suspect.

 

The patch for Improved Camera is a really small one, you could easily integrate it yourself as all it does is the following:

; this line
Game.ForceThirdPerson()

; gets replaced by this
If (Game.GetCameraState() == 0)
	Game.ForceThirdPerson()
EndIf

 

So it simply adds a check if you're currently in First Person before forcing Third Person view. If you integrate this in your scripts anywhere it's needed (I only found two lines in the main script) then the IC patch isn't needed anymore.

[Hex Bolt]

4 hours ago, Mister X said:

If you integrate this in your scripts anywhere it's needed (I only found two lines in the main script) then the IC patch isn't needed anymore.

Thank you for the suggestion.  I will do this.

[daxter5555]

Doesn't Work with AE edition there is constantly a script error when opening the MCM menu about integrity. tried everything even the mod on its own still nothing works i guess its just outdated for AE unless there is a solution?

[daxter5555]

16 minutes ago, daxter5555 said:

Doesn't Work with AE edition there is constantly a script error when opening the MCM menu about integrity. tried everything even the mod on its own still nothing works i guess its just outdated for AE unless there is a solution?

i tried uninstalling improved camera and still no luck 

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, daxter5555 said:

Doesn't Work with AE edition there is constantly a script error when opening the MCM menu about integrity. tried everything even the mod on its own still nothing works i guess its just outdated for AE unless there is a solution?

Outdated for AE?  No, the latest version is only 6 weeks old.  Lots of people use this mod on AE.  You're getting the script error because you are overriding one of the mod's scripts, probably with a patch but possibly with a loose script file (all Simple Slavery script file names start with SSLV).  To my knowledge, any patch floating around is outdated and harmful.  The only legitimate patch is the one for Open Cites to add the entrance door (only needed for players who use that mod).  Look carefully at your installation, including override files, for anything that overwrites scripts in this mod, remove it, and you'll be good to go.