Simple Slavery Plus Plus

[jfraser]

4 hours ago, Lorkmir said:

 

I'm getting the same issue, just rather than T-pose my character and follower are A-posed and sliding around. Some NPCs are still animating normally however. This is happening with both ZAP 8 and 9; FNIS and Nemesis both run successfully.

If I disable Simple Slavery and the ZAP pack, rerun FNIS and Nemesis, no more sliding around.

 

4 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

I can't explain that.  Most of the time, Simple Slavery doesn't do anything.  It just waits for a notification that you've been sent to the slave auction, then it wakes up to handle that.

 

As a simple test, if you install ZAP 8 and Simple Slavery, run FNIS, then open Simple Slavery's MCM and click "View Pose" on the Settings page, does your character pose?  If yes, your installation is good.  If not, ZAP did not actually get installed or FNIS didn't work right for you.

 

11 hours ago, GodTurbo said:

Im trying to use this thing and ick why every time i try and play everyoane on T-pose,i tried FNIS and Nemesis but i can't seem to find a way around this,im still very new to this modding stuff so i got absolute no idea what else is there to be done,im on LE

 

also make sure you have the right version of everything. it's really stupid how segmented the skyrim mod scene has become. it's getting better as everything slowly pushes to AE, but there will always be people who insist the older versions of SE are the only good ones, so there will always be this mess until the end of days.

[belegost]

On 3/29/2023 at 6:17 PM, CaptainJ03 said:

With DFC you get a huge message box, telling you the rules for enslavement. Then you have a choice to accept the rules, or will be dropped in prisoner chains in the Sightless Pit, and with 1k bounty in all nine holds.

Oh really? Man, I've been missing Master Criminal achievement. This sounds like an easy way to get it.

[belegost]

18 minutes ago, jfraser said:

the older versions of SE are the only good ones,

Because its true. Then Bethesda decided to mess it up again.

[CaptainJ03]

6 hours ago, belegost said:

Oh really? Man, I've been missing Master Criminal achievement. This sounds like an easy way to get it.

Maybe it's only 8/9 holds - and you have to survive a Falmer den without gear, locked in iron prisoner chains.

[belegost]

22 minutes ago, CaptainJ03 said:

Maybe it's only 8/9 holds - and you have to survive a Falmer den without gear, locked in iron prisoner chains.

With DAYMOYL I'll be ported to nearest inn once down. Or in the worst case scenario, I'll just COC myself out. Still 8 out of 9 is 8 more than I am willing to manually work towards. I only ever got this achievement on X360 sometime in 2012 and never again in any other versions I own. And I've recently passed 4.5k hours played on SE alone and still missing 6 achievements.

Edited April 16, 2023 by belegost

[Naps-On-Dirt]

7 hours ago, belegost said:

Oh really? Man, I've been missing Master Criminal achievement. This sounds like an easy way to get it.

I have a huge problem with the Master Criminal achievement.  It's name should either be changed to Incompetent Criminal, or it should be given when you've murdered and stolen enough to have such high bounties BUT WAS NEVER SEEN so no bounty actually accrued.   It was the only achievement I didn't have for the longest time until I chose an alternate start in the now discontinued Devious alternate start that put you in varying levels of bondage... and at the highest level it also gives you a high bounty in all holds.  I was very annoyed when I got the achievement.  

 

Sorry, totally off topic, had to rant.  

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

It was the only achievement I didn't have for the longest time until I chose an alternate start in the now discontinued Devious alternate start that put you in varying levels of bondage.

I'm still missing a lot of achievements (I just don't care about them) but I unintentionally got Master Criminal the same way.  That taught me how weak crime & punishment is in vanilla Skyrim (surrender to a guard, click on prison bed, and serve the max sentence of 7 days (!!!) in the blink of an eye).  The experience led to a search for harsher prison mods and, of course, Simple Slavery.  Now the topic is back on track.     

[sekuzeku]

release from prison can send you to Simple Slavery, but if ARREST could send you straight there, it could be another really open-ended prison mod

[jfraser]

2 hours ago, sekuzeku said:

release from prison can send you to Simple Slavery, but if ARREST could send you straight there, it could be another really open-ended prison mod

True. Someone would have to make that mod, though - it’s outside the scope of this one. Unless Hex decides to start expanding into combat defeat mods.  XD

Edited April 19, 2023 by jfraser

[assassin394]

Hi. I want to try this but mod but I was wondering what enslavement mod should I use? I don't use defeat mod and I prefer non bdsm, devious device related mods. I have Public Whore installed but from what I read you only get sold as slave to that mod. So I still need another mod for enslavement?

Edited April 21, 2023 by assassin394

[Antiope_Apollonia]

34 minutes ago, assassin394 said:

Hi. I want to try this but mod but I was wondering what enslavement mod should I use? I don't use defeat mod and I prefer non bdsm, devious device related mods. I have Public Whore installed but from what I read you only get sold as slave to that mod. So I still need another mod for enslavement?

This mod is more of a supplement to other slavery mods than it is a standalone experience by itself; SS++ is primarily an immersive way to transition to and between other enslavement mods.  So if there aren't any enslavement mods you like, then SS++ probably doesn't have much to offer for you.  If you want to be enslaved, I don't really know how you envisage that working without BDSM content.  It kinda just goes with the territory.  Basically all the mods I'm aware of in that space have BDSM elements.  But I'd recommend SLTR. 

 

SLTR is highly configurable, so you can disable the more onerous BDSM content entirely, or just set it to be very infrequent.  And if you're a good little slave for your Mistress, you can avoid getting punished—there are even options to configure Mistress's capriciousness—which will avoid most of the rest of the BDSM.  And the writing is consistently fantastic.  The interaction between owner and slave depicted in SLTR is rich and meaningful, and it creates a lot of genuinely heart-melting moments—only Skyrim mod that has ever made me cry (no spoilers for which event did it!).  From what little assumption I can make about your tastes from the above, I'd recommend you try the misleadingly named "Strict" mode for your owner's attitude.  But seriously, RTFMCM.  

[assassin394]

29 minutes ago, Antiope_Apollonia said:

This mod is more of a supplement to other slavery mods than it is a standalone experience by itself; SS++ is primarily an immersive way to transition to and between other enslavement mods.  So if there aren't any enslavement mods you like, then SS++ probably doesn't have much to offer for you.  If you want to be enslaved, I don't really know how you envisage that working without BDSM content.  It kinda just goes with the territory.  Basically all the mods I'm aware of in that space have BDSM elements.  But I'd recommend SLTR. 

 

SLTR is highly configurable, so you can disable the more onerous BDSM content entirely, or just set it to be very infrequent.  And if you're a good little slave for your Mistress, you can avoid getting punished—there are even options to configure Mistress's capriciousness—which will avoid most of the rest of the BDSM.  And the writing is consistently fantastic.  The interaction between owner and slave depicted in SLTR is rich and meaningful, and it creates a lot of genuinely heart-melting moments—only Skyrim mod that has ever made me cry (no spoilers for which event did it!).  From what little assumption I can make about your tastes from the above, I'd recommend you try the misleadingly named "Strict" mode for your owner's attitude.  But seriously, RTFMCM.  

Thank you. I just take a look at SLTR page and it seem that mod required DD and I'm not going to download a 2GB+ mod for something that I will never use. I do happen to have Zaz installed though. Will SLTR work with just that?

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, assassin394 said:

Thank you. I just take a look at SLTR page and it seem that mod required DD and I'm not going to download a 2GB+ mod for something that I will never use. I do happen to have Zaz installed though. Will SLTR work with just that?

no.

[Antiope_Apollonia]

6 hours ago, assassin394 said:

Thank you. I just take a look at SLTR page and it seem that mod required DD and I'm not going to download a 2GB+ mod for something that I will never use. I do happen to have Zaz installed though. Will SLTR work with just that?

As I said, a BDSM-free slavery experience is really not a thing.  As a fan of the genre, I can't even see how that would work conceptually, but regardless, I can tell you that it isn't a thing that anyone has made.  DD provides a lot of assets that SLTR relies on, so you can either accept that, install it, and just not use the features you don't want to use, or you can move on.

[Leskomo]

I have the "remove inventory" setting checked, but it still doesn't remove my entire inventory. I spawn in the cell with my weapons, armors, scrolls, food, almost everything. And I can just unequip the Collar and handcuffs with no prompt telling me they're locked and I need to struggle. I can just drop my items outside the cell and just NOT unequip the devices, but that kinda defeats the point of the strongbox and having restrictive devices in the first place

Any ideas as to what could be the issue?

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, Leskomo5498 said:

I have the "remove inventory" setting checked, but it still doesn't remove my entire inventory. I spawn in the cell with my weapons, armors, scrolls, food, almost everything.

As the help text for that feature says, your inventory is removed "during the auction".  The auction doesn't start until you talk to the Slavemaster.

 

1 hour ago, Leskomo5498 said:

And I can just unequip the Collar and handcuffs with no prompt telling me they're locked

Because Simple Slavery supports but does not require Devious Devices and its locking restraints, it uses ZAP restraints for the optional slave gear.  Those ZAP restraints do not lock.  They're just for appearance for the short time that you'll have them on.

[assassin394]

10 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said:

As I said, a BDSM-free slavery experience is really not a thing.  As a fan of the genre, I can't even see how that would work conceptually, but regardless, I can tell you that it isn't a thing that anyone has made.  DD provides a lot of assets that SLTR relies on, so you can either accept that, install it, and just not use the features you don't want to use, or you can move on.

Ok, so I decide to bite the bullet and give SLTR a try. What is the fastest way to get enslave using that mod?

[CaptainJ03]

28 minutes ago, assassin394 said:

Ok, so I decide to bite the bullet and give SLTR a try. What is the fastest way to get enslave using that mod?

Going via SS++ you need to have at least one valid possible follower in the list of potential buyers in SLtR (I think the tab in the MCM is "other mods") and use this mod's MCM to "enslave me now" - and have SubLola set as (only) possible outcome, otherwise you will be set free by an unknown benefactor.

Edited April 22, 2023 by CaptainJ03

[Antiope_Apollonia]

On 4/22/2023 at 9:41 AM, CaptainJ03 said:

Going via SS++ you need to have at least one valid possible follower in the list of potential buyers in SLtR (I think the tab in the MCM is "other mods") and use this mod's MCM to "enslave me now" - and have SubLola set as (only) possible outcome, otherwise you will be set free by an unknown benefactor.

And make sure you push "Start Quest" on the SLTR menu before you push "Enslave me now" on the SS++ menu.

Edited April 30, 2023 by Antiope_Apollonia

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said:

And make sure you push "Start Quest" on the SLTR menu before you push "Enslave me now" on the SS++ menu.

That's not actually necessary. 

 

Since this discussion has become focused on just one outcome mod, it would be a good time to continue further talk on that mod's support topic.

[Antiope_Apollonia]

24 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

That's not actually necessary. 

I didn't think it was, either, but getting back into the game, I myself just went through some confusion about why I kept getting sold to a mysterious benefactor, and that was the solution.  But I just re-tested it, and it worked as expected this time, so I'm not sure.  

 

Also, while we're at it, I noticed a minor bug and a minor quibble while testing.

• If you talk to the slave who's on the auction block while you're in the holding cell, she'll turn around to talk to you.  She isn't actually locked in place.
• It's a little jarring having the compliant "I won't make any trouble, sir" response as a branch of the indignant "Hey!  What am I doing here!" tree.  Maybe it should be moved to a separate tree that starts with something more like, "Excuse me, Sir.  Is the auction starting soon?" or at least something more like "Excuse me, Sir.  What are you going to do with us?"  Dunno, just spitballing, as the juxtaposition kinda threw me.

[Hex Bolt]

7 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said:

If you talk to the slave who's on the auction block while you're in the holding cell, she'll turn around to talk to you.  She isn't actually locked in place.

She's just in a pose.  She returns to her position in a few seconds.

 

7 hours ago, Antiope_Apollonia said:

It's a little jarring having the compliant "I won't make any trouble, sir" response as a branch of the indignant "Hey!  What am I doing here!" tree.

The exact line is "Let me out of here!"  That could be defiant, indignant, frightened, or panicked.  For the next update, I have added a third player response, "So, it's really happening."  That should cover a broad middle ground between the meek and defiant responses.  The new response is also the fastest path to start the auction, with the least talk.

[venompool9353]

i'm having a couple problems with ss++, first off i'm not seeing simple slavery in the mcm. second is the slave market isn't appearing in riften. does anyone know what may be wrong?

Edited April 23, 2023 by venompool9353

[Naps-On-Dirt]

1 hour ago, venompool9353 said:

i'm having a couple problems with ss++, first off i'm not seeing simple slavery in the mcm. second is the slave market isn't appearing in riften. does anyone know what may be wrong?

Sounds like it wasn't actually installed.  Whats your mod manager?

[just_Gina]

@ Hexbolt: "So, it's really happening."

Sort of sounds like they anticipated it.

Maybe, "I can't stand that this is happening to me." sounds a tad less like, 'it's finally happened.'

Something decidedly more victim-like would be apropos when discovering you're about to be auctioned off as a slave.

just two cents i picked up off the street.