S.L.U.T.S. Resume

[Ixmore]

Based on the road map, it seems like all the original content will return after 4.0 development cycle,

[Amrovich]

How can I safely uninstall SLUTS? Trying to load any save that had SLUTS after uninstall is giving save corrupted error immediately and can't be loaded. 

Cleaning the save with Fallrim tools doesn't help. Any help is appreciated. 

[Mister X]

On 1/4/2025 at 1:51 AM, Amrovich said:

How can I safely uninstall SLUTS? Trying to load any save that had SLUTS after uninstall is giving save corrupted error immediately and can't be loaded. 

Cleaning the save with Fallrim tools doesn't help. Any help is appreciated. 

 

I'd say, as it relies that heavily on scripts: not at all. Despite all those tools like Fallrim it's never advisable to uninstall a scripted mod mid-playthrough (basically, any mod that has a plugin file, due to load order change...)

 

What you could try is: find all Quest FormIDs for the SLUTS quests. In game, if you're not on a haul, stop all quests via console, then change to another location (best small and indoors like a player home), wait there for a few hours with the ingame menu and afterwards for a few minutes RL time. Make a save. Quit the game, uninstall the mod and try to clean the save with Fallrim Tools. Maybe, with some luck, all scripts have stopped, if all quests could get stopped. No guarantee for anything though.

 

For the future: the only mods that really can be uninstalled any time without any problems, are texture or mesh replacers without an esp file, or SKSE .dll plugins without esp file.

Edited January 6, 2025 by Mister X

[blackoperations]

4.1 works great on a new game.  Dialogue prompt visible.  Quest pamphlet.  Easy start.   

It's been years since I played this, but I'm not sure about the dynamics of the quest chain anymore.   More info upfront on that would be helpful.

[past79]

On 12/23/2024 at 5:19 AM, ItsAzusa said:

Hello,

 

I just want to confirm whether I correct the Dyndolod related error correctly. I updated to SLUTS 4.0.0 and run the Dyndolod to prepare a new game. And the Dyndolod gives me an warring that there are some Unresolved Form ID in [ACTI: SLUTS_FactionCheck] (I don't recall the exactly name or id of this record). Then I deleted the 2 unsolved IDs in this record and Dyndolod works this time. Is that OK to just delete those reference?  Should I pay additional attention for the future updates?

 

Thank you.

 

Riiight, now I remember why I skipped testing 4.0. Still occurs in 4.1 btw.

 

Found Warrick, xx44CDDE -> xx44CDDD

Not sure about the other one though ("DoorScene"), a bunch of scenes seem to have been removed since 3.5, this one being one of them. Put in a NULL Ref for now, at least makes the Dyndolod watchdog shut up. And null shouldn't be worse than an invalid ref.

 

Spoiler

 

PS. Successfully created LODs, there is still one deleted reference and a missing script. Far fewer errors than in 3.5 though 👍
(the last warning is probably my own fault...)

 

Error: Deleted reference SLUTS.esp [REFR:000CADAC] (places CritterLandingMarker_Small [STAT:00022201] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of SLUTSHQExterior02 [CELL:00009388] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C] at -22,17))
Error: File not found scripts\slutshqbusinessledger.pex SLUTS.esp SLUTS_HQLedger "Business Ledger" [ACTI:AF3E23B9]
Warning: File not found textures\architecture\farmhouse\woodpost01.dds. Used by SLUTS.esp SLUTS_Woodpost [TXST:AF920AEE]

 

Edited January 6, 2025 by past79

[ttpt]

On 1/1/2025 at 6:56 PM, Amrovich said:

May I please suggest a quick and dirty patch to cutting room floor that just removes the cutting room floor place that is conflicting? 
This will be much easier for people to just install it along with SLUTs rather than deleting such a big mod like Cutting room mid playthrough. I know you recommended adding alternate cut content but for me it is not about adding cut content it is mostly about an easy way to allow people to enjoy your mod without breaking current playthrough! 

Would appreciate it very much if you could make such a patch! 🙏 
Thanks and much love ❤️ 

 

We really shouldn't expect mod authors to make patches for mods they don't really like, but I personally do like CRF so here you go.

 

This should remove all the houses and items that CRF adds to Frost River, as well as revert any landscape and navmesh modifications to either vanilla or to the values that version 4.1 of SLUTS has, which isn't a lot, so it should be easy to update on future SLUTS versions.

 

if there should be a rock out of place or something on your game, click on it and type recycleactor, it should go back to the value on the patch, or if you see a rock or a tree or something out of place that shouldn't be there, I probably forgot to take it out, so let me know. I intentionally also kept the Frost River Guard NPCs from CRF.

 

PatchSLUTS-CRF.esp

Edited January 7, 2025 by ttpt

[noctred]

Quick question -

 

From comments in the ponzi dump thread, it sounds like DFR requires an older version of Dynamic Dialogue Replacer and does not work with Scrab's newer version on Nexus. Is the inverse true for SLUTS Resume or is it backwards compatible with the older DDR builds?

 

Just curious if it's possible to run SLUTS and DFR together or if we have to wait for DFR to be updated to function with the DDR remake.

 

Thanks.

Edited January 7, 2025 by noctred

[sackhuepfer123]

When I talk to any cart drivers to start a haul the driver says "Let me see what I've got" and then I get a popup. I won't go away even after saving and reloading several times. Im running 4.1m jkskyrimslutspatch and the UNP tats

 

[Talesien]

5 hours ago, noctred said:

Quick question -

 

From comments in the ponzi dump thread, it sounds like DFR requires an older version of Dynamic Dialogue Replacer and does not work with Scrab's newer version on Nexus. Is the inverse true for SLUTS Resume or is it backwards compatible with the older DDR builds?

 

Just curious if it's possible to run SLUTS and DFR together or if we have to wait for DFR to be updated to function with the DDR remake.

 

Thanks.

Given that Scrab changed the required structuring in the yaml files containing the replacement strings for her version, I would say the chance that SLUTS is compatible with Ponzi's DDR is NIL. So right now, it appears you can use either DFR or SLUTS, not both, sorry to say.

Edited January 7, 2025 by Talesien

[ahsdg]

4 hours ago, sackhuepfer123 said:

When I talk to any cart drivers to start a haul the driver says "Let me see what I've got" and then I get a popup. I won't go away even after saving and reloading several times. Im running 4.1m jkskyrimslutspatch and the UNP tats

 

I am having the same issue. Running this plus the crf and jk skyrim patches. Nothing overhauling the carriages themselves, but have some npc overhauls and immersive citizens.

I honestly cant remember if I changed to 4.1 after starting my current playthrough, had 3.5 beforehand

Edited January 7, 2025 by ahsdg

[puttputt77]

5 hours ago, sackhuepfer123 said:

When I talk to any cart drivers to start a haul the driver says "Let me see what I've got" and then I get a popup. I won't go away even after saving and reloading several times. Im running 4.1m jkskyrimslutspatch and the UNP tats

 

 

34 minutes ago, ahsdg said:

I am having the same issue. Running this plus the crf and jk skyrim patches. Nothing overhauling the carriages themselves, but have some npc overhauls and immersive citizens.

I honestly cant remember if I changed to 4.1 after starting my current playthrough, had 3.5 beforehand

I also had the same issue. On an ongoing save I wasn't able to update from 4.0 to 4.1. On a new save the mod works perfectly fine. So I guess it is just not possible to update on an ongoing save?

[puttputt77]

There seems to also be a small imcompatibility with the cart driver added to Winterhold if you are using the Gret Cities of Winterhold. The cart seems to be kinda floating in the air.

[Polonium]

I'm still having the alias failure problem, where no dialogue shows up and no quest alias are assigned on 4.1.

I have seen some people fix it in the thread, but I can't get them to work. Could you go through what steps exactly you took to fix the problem?

Edit: Also, a thought, can you manually set quest references?

Edit2: What the hell? I followed the steps from this thread: https://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/142260895147457868/, Manually added Velasco and player refs, restarted SLUTS_Main, and now it works. So yeah, 100% failure to fill Alias issue, that only some people appear to be having?

Edit3: Never mind, most of the dialogue shows up, but when I click "I'm ready to haul some freight!" I get a message with "[SLUTS] THe actor is not a valid SLUTS Driver. If you just started a new game, try to reload once."

So that's not great.

Edit4: Also, every time I reload my game, the references I set appear to unset themselves. Which is less than great.

Edited January 7, 2025 by Polonium

[HopefulBloom]

Hello,

Been troubleshooting on my own with no luck, so I'm here to ask for help with one issue.

 

Mainly that the ponytail plug is floating below my character, almost into the floor. Is this a skeleton issue or?
 

Here's my Load Order

 

 

Also are you meant to get a cart when doing personal deliveries?

Thanks in advance for any assistance

 

Edited January 7, 2025 by HopefulBloom
Removed names of persons in a Voice chat

[Zaflis]

1 hour ago, Polonium said:

 

If it's not valid driver (NPC) then the base one is not from vanilla game probably. You have some mod that adds more carts in the world perhaps and even replaces vanilla ones? There might be a patch for it if it's CFTO or something like that. BFT doesn't need a patch for this mod, it just works because it doesn't replace anything.

[Zaflis]

3 minutes ago, HopefulBloom said:

Mainly that the ponytail plug is floating below my character, almost into the floor. Is this a skeleton issue or?
 

Here's my Load Order

Relevant mods are in your mod list, not load order. One responsible for physics on Skyrim AE is Faster-SMP mod, and tails need physics. DD also requires you to Batch build everything in Bodyslide.

[Polonium]

5 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

If it's not valid driver (NPC) then the base one is not from vanilla game probably. You have some mod that adds more carts in the world perhaps and even replaces vanilla ones? There might be a patch for it if it's CFTO or something like that. BFT doesn't need a patch for this mod, it just works because it doesn't replace anything.

No, the NPC was the vanilla carriage driver for Solitude, though I also got the same result with the Carriage driver that SLUTS adds in Dawnstar.

[HopefulBloom]

14 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

Relevant mods are in your mod list, not load order. One responsible for physics on Skyrim AE is Faster-SMP mod, and tails need physics. DD also requires you to Batch build everything in Bodyslide.

 

Ah that makes sense, here's all the installed mods.

Using HDT-SMP

I did batch build everything in bodyslide

 

 

 

Edited January 7, 2025 by HopefulBloom

[chaimhewast]

7 hours ago, Talesien said:

Given that Scrab changed the required structuring in the yaml files containing the replacement strings for her version, I would say the chance that SLUTS is compatible with Ponzi's DDR is NIL. So right now, it appears you can use either DFR or SLUTS, not both, sorry to say.

If it's just a formatting issue, would editing DFR's DDR config be all we needed to get it working with Scrab's DDR?

[Amrovich]

On 1/6/2025 at 1:00 PM, Mister X said:

 

I'd say, as it relies that heavily on scripts: not at all. Despite all those tools like Fallrim it's never advisable to uninstall a scripted mod mid-playthrough (basically, any mod that has a plugin file, due to load order change...)

 

What you could try is: find all Quest FormIDs for the SLUTS quests. In game, if you're not on a haul, stop all quests via console, then change to another location (best small and indoors like a player home), wait there for a few hours with the ingame menu and afterwards for a few minutes RL time. Make a save. Quit the game, uninstall the mod and try to clean the save with Fallrim Tools. Maybe, with some luck, all scripts have stopped, if all quests could get stopped. No guarantee for anything though.

 

For the future: the only mods that really can be uninstalled any time without any problems, are texture or mesh replacers without an esp file, or SKSE .dll plugins without esp file.

Thanks for the help and instructions. For some reason 4.1 could never work on my current save and was considering deleting it and ran into this issue. I downgraded to 3.5 and it started working. So will keep it for now. Yeah you are absolutely right I will not uninstall script heavy mods mid playthrough. Thanks again! 
 

18 hours ago, ttpt said:

 

We really shouldn't expect mod authors to make patches for mods they don't really like, but I personally do like CRF so here you go.

 

This should remove all the houses and items that CRF adds to Frost River, as well as revert any landscape and navmesh modifications to either vanilla or to the values that version 4.1 of SLUTS has, which isn't a lot, so it should be easy to update on future SLUTS versions.

 

if there should be a rock out of place or something on your game, click on it and type recycleactor, it should go back to the value on the patch, or if you see a rock or a tree or something out of place that shouldn't be there, I probably forgot to take it out, so let me know. I intentionally also kept the Frost River Guard NPCs from CRF.

 

PatchSLUTS-CRF.esp 138.9 kB · 3 downloads

This is great! Thanks so much! This is going to help a lot of people coexist both mods! Hopefully Scrab can add it to the download section!

[Talesien]

1 hour ago, chaimhewast said:

If it's just a formatting issue, would editing DFR's DDR config be all we needed to get it working with Scrab's DDR?

Yes, but it's not a strictly a config, it's the file that holds all the replacer strings (data/skse/DynamicDialogueReplacer/DeviousFolower.yaml), so it is a bit of work (around 1100 lines in that one). I considered having a go (well more like trying to whip up a conversion script), but currently I've not even a working LO, so it's not high on my priority list.

Edited January 7, 2025 by Talesien

[chaimhewast]

1 hour ago, Talesien said:

Yes, but it's not a strictly a config, it's the file that holds all the replacer strings (data/skse/DynamicDialogueReplacer/DeviousFolower.yaml), so it is a bit of work (around 1100 lines in that one). I considered having a go (well more like trying to whip up a conversion script), but currently I've not even a working LO, so it's not high on my priority list.

I poked at it a bit since I sent that message. I got a good chunk of them to the point where the log says it loaded some of them, but a good number of the topic infos throw errors. If I figure it out, I'll throw it in the ponzi dump thread since it's more fit for that thread.

[HopefulBloom]

20 hours ago, HopefulBloom said:

 

Ah that makes sense, here's all the installed mods.

Using HDT-SMP

I did batch build everything in bodyslide

 

 

 

Anyone else having these issues, try swapping to Faster HDT SMP, instead of just HDT SMP.
*shrugs* no idea why one works and one doesn't

[Talesien]

1 hour ago, HopefulBloom said:

Anyone else having these issues, try swapping to Faster HDT SMP, instead of just HDT SMP.
*shrugs* no idea why one works and one doesn't

The original HDT-SMP is meant for Game version 1.5.97. If you use it on any 1.6.x game SKSE will not display an error, but silently fail to load the dll. No wonder, really, why it does not work.

[not_a_waluigi]

The mod is breaking in odd ways for me. None of the innkeepers or carriage drivers have any new dialogue, so I can't start the quest. I also stumbled onto S.L.U.T.S. Headquarters while exploring, but it was devoid of NPCs and had one missing texture as well.

I thought I might be missing a dependency, but I double checked and everything in the requirements list is installed. I also tried sorting my load order again, but it didn't help. Maybe it's because I installed the mod mid-playthrough?