OsmelMC Mod Tweaks

[Kuroyami]

For the SexLab Utility Plus mod, would adding the option of setting Times and saving a preset for them be possible?

[OsmelMC]

On 10/31/2022 at 6:12 PM, Nazghul2 said:

Ok I gave up, can't set it up properly, seems that no matter what I do every normal citizen turns into a creep I just wanted to have the feeling of risk in dangerous areas with the chance to escape / fight back,  it is not what I was looking for (before I start having nightmares )

I'm not longer using it for the same reason. 

Edited November 3, 2022 by OsmelMC

[OsmelMC]

9 hours ago, AliAmiri said:

so i just found out about this cool teaks mods, and i'm using aroused creature v04.09. and your teak is for 04.06. are you planing on realing a new update soon?

No

[OsmelMC]

8 hours ago, Kuroyami said:

For the SexLab Utility Plus mod, would adding the option of setting Times and saving a preset for them be possible?

If you means fit the time of one specific animation stage, that is part of the animation definition and have to be done by the author of the animation. I also find that issue annoying but the animation authors are the ones that know the real duration of the loop.

 

In some cases I use my tweaked version of "SexLab Tools" to build a copy of the Animation with the right times. But the old animation can't be edited at least for now, probably add the option on a future version of "SexLab Tools" but not on the SLU+. After all I use the "SexLab Tools" animation editor just for that besides be made to build your own animations with parts of other animations.

Edited November 3, 2022 by OsmelMC

[Kuroyami]

4 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

If you means fit the time of one specific animation stage, that is part of the animation definition and have to be done by the author of the animation. I also find that issue annoying but the animation authors are the ones that know the real duration of the loop.

 

In some cases I use my tweaked version of "SexLab Tools" to build a copy of the Animation with the right times. But the old animation can't be edited at least for now, probably add the option on a future version of "SexLab Tools" but not on the SLU+. After all I use the "SexLab Tools" animation editor just for that besides be made to build your own animations with parts of other animations.

 

Not how long the animation lasts, but rather SL's timers.

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Or rather adding a setting in this menu under the timer settings where one can save/load a preset for each set, either if it saves the settings for all three(in a single preset) or Consensual/Foreplay/Aggressive can be saved separately.

[OsmelMC]

3 hours ago, Kuroyami said:

or Consensual/Foreplay/Aggressive can be saved separately.

Is like that already.

 

Change the "View" option at top. Affect the Times and Strip options 

[Kuroyami]

On 11/4/2022 at 1:20 AM, OsmelMC said:

Is like that already.

 

Change the "View" option at top. Affect the Times and Strip options 

 

Eh, not quite what I mean. Like with RaceMenu Presets, the thought is to have a Save/Load option for the Timers, so one can perhaps tweak it once, save a preset, and only need to just load that preset for any future runs.

[riannannair]

when using "ahegao"(tongue equipped),but still don't have any tongue shows up, do I have to install any mod besides SexLab Utility Plus?

[riannannair]

On 2/17/2022 at 3:21 PM, OsmelMC said:

Seems like is your first time here!

 

1. The Open Mouth and everything related with the Lips Sync, have a advanced configuration in the "Expression Editor" page. Right now is possible configure all about the moans, and one of the options have the side effect of don't allow moans with less than 10 of enjoyment or pain. Just play with the configuration until you find the one that suits you.

 

2. The furniture system needs the correct tag combination in the animations to work fine. Try with my Tweak for the SLATE Mod and important & apply the ActionLog included. For more details read the description on the download page.

 

3. The Ahegao come with 10 tongues already configured on the new Ahegao Expressions added to the expression list on the Expression Editor page. The import option is because I made it thinking on allow you to use more items beside the tongues included but my current solution for the Redress issue on the NPC's not longer allow it, so for now the import option is disabled.

To use the Expressions beside enable the Face Item options on the "Animation Settings" page, you also have to enable each Ahegao Expression on the "Expression Editor" page because come disabled by default. The expression system allow you much more than people think, but required some knowledge.

 

Current known issues:

The mouth get temporary closed even with the tongue equipped each time the expression is refreshed (is a Skyrim Bug I still investigating)

The tongues come with HDT-SMP Physics and looks very good on SE but LE don't come with HDT-SMP so is mostly static there (i made a XML file for LE but I can't test it and seems like nobody is brave enough to do it)

The Ahegao Expressions for Beast NPC Races is still on development, so those expressions are not adjusted yet and for now I have just one tongue for Argonian's so all the 10 tongues look the same in Argonian's.

 

 

 

Oh I found it~ Thank you for amazing hentai mod!!!

[OsmelMC]

15 hours ago, Kuroyami said:

 

Eh, not quite what I mean. Like with RaceMenu Presets, the thought is to have a Save/Load option for the Timers, so one can perhaps tweak it once, save a preset, and only need to just load that preset for any future runs.

Is saved with the configuration so...

 

You have to share more details, i can't see what else are you asking because SexLab already allow you control the animation time based on the animation type or for a specific animation. In both cases is stored on JSON files.

 

The one based on the animation type is configured on the SexLab MCM and the one specific for one animation is settled directly on the JSON file of the animation.

[OsmelMC]

Some one can tell me if the Wigs have issues with the colors.

 

I being having the Mod "KS SMP Wigs" for almost a year and now is the first time I tried to equip the Wigs on the NPC's just to notice that when a new NPC gets the wig equipped all the previous NPC's Wig's become of the same color as the last one.

 

I wish to know if is just me or if the Wigs will need a tweak for the colors like the one I did for the Pubic Hair's?

[riannannair]

another issue.... how to apply Ahegao on NPC? It only work on PC

[OsmelMC]

24 minutes ago, riannannair said:

another issue.... how to apply Ahegao on NPC? It only work on PC

Work the same way for everyone. If work for the player also work for the NPC's unless the player be a Beast Race like the Argonian's and Khajiits. In which case they have another group of Ahegao Expressions only for Beasts.

 

Make sure of enable all the Ahegao Expressions 

 

 

In case of have issues with the expressions on the NPC's is probably because your are using a replacement for they faces and isn't compatible with the TRI file of that race. Or the TRI file of the race is corrupted for some reason.

The issues with the TRI file can't be solved installing the version of Expressive Facial Animation" for that race and gender.

 

 

 

By other side even with issues on the TRI files the Tongues should get equipped without issues. You can use the "Expression Editor" page to test any expression on a NPC or the Player without be on the animation and that way know better what is going on.

The Tongues use the body slot 61 and almost nothing use that slot but everything is possible so make sure that none of the NPC's have another item equipped on the slot 61. You can use the console for that.

 

[riannannair]

the tongue work find but the expressive won't apply(only the tongue popping out), I was gonna using on follower.
The Test on NPC option also work find, just don't apply on the NPC while during sex??

Edited November 8, 2022 by riannannair

[modball]

Unfortunately I have never had any luck getting the tongues to work.

 

when I try to select one with MCM Equip Mouth Item it reverts to NONE when the selection pop up is closed and generates a papyrus log entry:

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[11/07/2022 - 09:43:15PM] Error: Mismatched types assigning to variable named "FemaleEquip"
stack:
	[alias RegistrySlot374 on quest SexLabQuestRegistry (070664FB)].sslBaseExpression.SetEquipmentPhase() - "sslBaseExpression.psc" Line 401
	[SexLabConfigurationMenu (07079840)].sslConfigMenu.OnMenuAcceptST() - "sslConfigMenu.psc" Line 2443
	[SexLabConfigurationMenu (07079840)].sslConfigMenu.SetMenuIndex() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 1134
	[SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (FE00C802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnMenuAccept() - "dktwkneqzvagsgntgjmrc" Line 283




[11/07/2022 - 10:04:53PM] Error: Mismatched types assigning to variable named "MaleEquip"
stack:
	[alias RegistrySlot374 on quest SexLabQuestRegistry (070664FB)].sslBaseExpression.SetEquipmentPhase() - "sslBaseExpression.psc" Line 398
	[SexLabConfigurationMenu (07079840)].sslConfigMenu.OnMenuAcceptST() - "sslConfigMenu.psc" Line 2455
	[SexLabConfigurationMenu (07079840)].sslConfigMenu.SetMenuIndex() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 1134
	[SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (FE00C802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnMenuAccept() - "dktwkneqzvagsgntgjmrc" Line 283

 

 

All 10 tongues appear in console showinventory for PC and apply correctly using equipitem command. 

 

Sexlab v1.63 SSE (no SLSO). Nothing is overwriting the SLU+ scripts. Tried cleaning sexlab.

 

The tongues are not a big deal to me but see others are having similar issues and the mismatched types error seems curious. 

 

 

[OsmelMC]

8 hours ago, modball said:

Sexlab v1.63 SSE (no SLSO). Nothing is overwriting the SLU+ scripts. Tried cleaning sexlab.

Based on those logs you seems to be using a old version of SLU+ because the Lines don't match the current version. Try to keep the SLU+ updated.

 

I'm working on a new process to export and import the configuration that will include the animations tags and is faster than reapply the SLATE ActionsLog. So probably you want to wait until be released because you have to "Clean System" when you miss some update. 

 

[modball]

6 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

Based on those logs you seems to be using a old version of SLU+ because the Lines don't match the current version. Try to keep the SLU+ updated.

 

 

Currently have SLU+ v20221027 installed.

 

Could something like this be baked into my save files?

[OsmelMC]

1 hour ago, modball said:

Currently have SLU+ v20221027 installed.

 

Could something like this be baked into my save files?

Is possible but I don't think so.

Last time someone said that was using the last version but the logs show me another thing, was because the user was loading the game from another MO2 Profile or Vortex wasn't replacing the files after install the SLU+

 

 

Make sure that both sslConfigMenu have the modification date on some day of October 2022

[modball]

20 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

Make sure that both sslConfigMenu have the modification date on some day of October 2022

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anything look outdated there?

 

*edit: Nothing is overwriting SLU+ according to MO2. I only switch between two profiles and the 2nd one does not have sexlab mods.

Edited November 9, 2022 by modball

[OsmelMC]

14 hours ago, modball said:

anything look outdated there?

All seems to be fine. 

 

You can try a new game just to see if the problem is with the saved game?

[modball]

3 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

All seems to be fine. 

 

You can try a new game just to see if the problem is with the saved game?

So its some mod conflict or save related issue in my main profile I guess. I have about 10 PCs set up and the behaviour is the same with the high level and low level (new) PCs.

 

I added sexlab, SLU+, a few prerequisites and a SLAL pack to my alternate MO2 profile and can select tongues in MCM but they don't equip during scenes... thought I am not sure how that works, how pleasure phases are applied and all that. Are they supposed to equip automatically during female solo animations when set? Haven't tested MF/FF etc. yet.

[OsmelMC]

13 hours ago, modball said:

So its some mod conflict or save related issue in my main profile I guess. I have about 10 PCs set up and the behaviour is the same with the high level and low level (new) PCs.

 

I added sexlab, SLU+, a few prerequisites and a SLAL pack to my alternate MO2 profile and can select tongues in MCM but they don't equip during scenes... thought I am not sure how that works, how pleasure phases are applied and all that. Are they supposed to equip automatically during female solo animations when set? Haven't tested MF/FF etc. yet.

 

The Ahegao expressions are like any other expression on SexLab. By default SexLab set one of the enabled expressions on the actor at the beginning of the scene and keep the same expression until the end. Of course each SexLab Expressions is in fact a group of 3 to 5 expressions called Phases.

 

The Phase to apply depends of the "Enjoyment of the actor"/ "the total of Phases". More or less means that for a Enjoyment bigger than 90 will be used the last Phase of the SexLab Expression.

 

 

Now as comes by default you have low chance of get one Ahegao Expression, so i recommend you to enable the "Refresh Expressions" option on the Animation Settings" page because that option get a list of expressions instead of one at the beginning of the scene and randomly switch between SexLab Expressions after few seconds.

 

You have to enable the "Face Items" option on the "Animation Settings" page to support the Tongues and have to Enable each one of the "Ahegao Expressions" on the "Expression Editor" page because by default all the Ahegao Expressions come Disabled.

 

 

Once you have all the Ahegao Expressions enabled, select one of the "Ahegao Expressions" on the Expression Editor page and test one of the Phases with Tongues. If the test equip the tongue and all the Ahegao Expressions are enabled everything should work fine on the next scene.

 

 

Few more recommendations:

1. Don't enable the option to Give the Face items at the beginning of the scene because is not required and can trigger a redress.

2. You can disable each one of the standard SexLab Expressions at least until you be sure that the Ahegao Expressions are working. That way SexLab will have to use one of the enabled Ahegao Expressions.

3. I also use the Mod "Immersive First Person View" (IFPV) so i don't know if the the Tongues work fine on first person without it.

 

 

 

[modball]

37 minutes ago, OsmelMC said:

 

Now as comes by default you have low chance of get one Ahegao Expression, so i recommend you to enable the "Refresh Expressions" option on the Animation Settings" page because that option get a list of expressions instead of one at the beginning of the scene and randomly switch between SexLab Expressions after few seconds.

 

You have to enable the "Face Items" option on the "Animation Settings" page to support the Tongues and have to Enable each one of the "Ahegao Expressions" on the "Expression Editor" page because by default all the Ahegao Expressions come Disabled.

 

 

Once you have all the Ahegao Expressions enabled, select one of the "Ahegao Expressions" on the Expression Editor page and test one of the Phases with Tongues. If the test equip the tongue and all the Ahegao Expressions are enabled everything should work fine on the next scene.

 

 

Few more recommendations:

1. Don't enable the option to Give the Face items at the beginning of the scene because is not required and can trigger a redress.

2. You can disable each one of the standard SexLab Expressions at least until you be sure that the Ahegao Expressions are working. That way SexLab will have to use one of the enabled Ahegao Expressions.

3. I also use the Mod "Immersive First Person View" (IFPV) so i don't know if the the Tongues work fine on first person without it.

 

 

 

Thanks, I will give this a try but unless I can get it working in my main profile, it won't get much use.

 

You mentioned in papyrus output "the Lines don't match the current version". Can you let me know which sections of the code you are referring to? Maybe I can use Falrim tools to narrow down some old script that is generating the error, I am assuming it is something to do with sslBaseExpression.pex

Edited November 10, 2022 by modball

[OsmelMC]

On 11/10/2022 at 12:20 PM, modball said:

Thanks, I will give this a try but unless I can get it working in my main profile, it won't get much use.

 

You mentioned in papyrus output "the Lines don't match the current version". Can you let me know which sections of the code you are referring to? Maybe I can use Falrim tools to narrow down some old script that is generating the error, I am assuming it is something to do with sslBaseExpression.pex

 

 

Just check if the line numbers of the SSL scripts on the log match with the PSC file on the "SexLab Utility Plus" 

 

If the function isn't on that line is because is not the same file. 

 

Or send me the full "papyrus.0.log" file. 

[modball]

7 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

Just check if the line numbers of the SSL scripts on the log match with the PSC file on the "SexLab Utility Plus" 

alias RegistrySlot374 on quest SexLabQuestRegistry (070664FB)].sslBaseExpression.SetEquipmentPhase() - "sslBaseExpression.psc" Line 401
	

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[SexLabConfigurationMenu (07079840)].sslConfigMenu.OnMenuAcceptST() - "sslConfigMenu.psc" Line 2443

 

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[SexLabConfigurationMenu (07079840)].sslConfigMenu.SetMenuIndex() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 1134
	

Strange, there is no line 1134 in SKI_ConfigBase.psc in the SKYUI 5.2 source script I have. There are only 1117 lines and function SetMenuIndex is on line 1034.

 

 

*edit:

[SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (FE00C802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnMenuAccept() - "dktwkneqzvagsgntgjmrc" Line 283

 Not sure what to make of that one but MenuMaid2 is overwriting SKI_ConfigManager.pex and MCM Helper is overwriting ski_configmenu.pex - maybe something to do with these

Edited November 13, 2022 by modball