SkyrimLL/DeepBlueFrog mods conversion to SSE

[Onidai]

Is anyone else having an issue with tattoos not applying with the Bimbo curse? They never seem to show up for me. I have Slavetats with the Event bridge mod installed (using BHUNP)

 

Everything works besides that, SD+ and Parasites also work perfectly

 

Edit: Body scaling and hair color change isn't working either (I do have YPS installed correctly)

Edited December 1, 2022 by Onidai

[Onidai]

So it turns out the Hormones mod is missing the slavetats textures, so they never got applied, it's also missing the splash screen image and a plugin that ends in .bsl (not sure what that is)

 

Is there a reason those are excluded from the SE conversion? @zarantha (Thanks for the conversion of these mods by the way!:)

[zarantha]

10 hours ago, Onidai said:

So it turns out the Hormones mod is missing the slavetats textures, so they never got applied, it's also missing the splash screen image and a plugin that ends in .bsl (not sure what that is)

 

Is there a reason those are excluded from the SE conversion? @zarantha (Thanks for the conversion of these mods by the way!:)

 

Because they aren't in the original mod. I'm just converting, not writing it. I try not to make any changes than the bare minimum needed to make it work, that way it's easier for DBF to know which things are his bugs and which are conversion issues. Missing files is not a conversion issue.

 

BSL is not needed. It's a file the creation kit uses to know what files to bundle into the bsa. If you have all the loose files and/or a BSA, that is all you need. BSL does nothing for users, only for the author.

[Arii01]

Hello everyone! Help with the quest. Quest The chaurus queen and brood maiden. I lost Nettlebane at the very beginning in some cave, and in the quest where I need to release the roots, I can’t cut the infection .. using the console I gave myself Nettlebane but nothing happens .. how to go further?

 

[fmilluminatus]

Quick question, any way to make Parasites or Sanguine's Debauchery work without Devious Devices?

Devious devices is a bloated, buggy framework that also does intentionally troll bullshit like putting random handcuffs and chains on vendor NPCs for no reason at random times. It's also ALWAYS missing textures for something, no matter how many extra textures and packages you install there's always one device that's pink/purple. It also introduces a bunch of ugly, latex and other non-time-period trash into the game (I like to keep everything looking like it's from the 14th or 15th century, the kind of level of development Skyrim is based at and not fill it up with a bunch of modern plastic looking items).

I really love Parasites to the point where I almost consider it an "essential mod" but I'm setting up a new install and I don't want it to be poisoned with all the garbage and bloat Devious Devices includes...

Like maybe there's a way to strip out a few of the scripts from DD that Parasites needs to function and dump the rest of DD or something...

Edited December 5, 2022 by fmilluminatus

[TheRightDoorIsNotTheLeft]

I don't know what else to do. I've started a completely new game (as in pressing "new") and removed Nether's Framework and BBLS, and I still can't get Dibella Sisterhood to progress past turning in the missing Sisters' notes. Prior versions worked flawlessly, but the latest two available versions don't. 

[zarantha]

On 12/5/2022 at 11:08 AM, fmilluminatus said:

Quick question, any way to make Parasites or Sanguine's Debauchery work without Devious Devices?

Devious devices is a bloated, buggy framework that also does intentionally troll bullshit like putting random handcuffs and chains on vendor NPCs for no reason at random times. It's also ALWAYS missing textures for something, no matter how many extra textures and packages you install there's always one device that's pink/purple. It also introduces a bunch of ugly, latex and other non-time-period trash into the game (I like to keep everything looking like it's from the 14th or 15th century, the kind of level of development Skyrim is based at and not fill it up with a bunch of modern plastic looking items).

I really love Parasites to the point where I almost consider it an "essential mod" but I'm setting up a new install and I don't want it to be poisoned with all the garbage and bloat Devious Devices includes...

Like maybe there's a way to strip out a few of the scripts from DD that Parasites needs to function and dump the rest of DD or something...

 

There is not a way to make it work without DD per the author.

 

DD does not put handcuffs and chains on vendors, you have some other mod doing that. If you mean on them instead of in their inventory, I've seen that mostly with Sexlab Sexual Fame, it's an option in the MCM. Other mods can distribute devices as worn items to NPCs as well.

For SLSF, it's this option. Disable it and NPCs won't get collared any more. It won't remove it from NPCs it already distributed to though.

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The missing textures should be addressed in DD 5.2 beta, but if you don't want to go to a beta release I have the missing textures on the troubleshooting post (expand the 5.0/5.1 section and get the patch under "Missing DD textures if you *don't* use DCL: "). They're from DCL, so you will only get missing textures if you don't have DCL installed. If you're missing more than those, you have some install issue going on.

 

You won't have the devices distributed with only DD installed. DD is a framework, other mods are needed to distribute the devices. Remove those mods and you'll never get anything from DD that you don't add yourself with the console or the additem menu mod. And if you think DD had a bunch of extra crap, you should see what's going on with the newer ZAZ 9 mod....

 

Your problems are the other mods that integrate with DD, not DD itself.

[fmilluminatus]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

There is not a way to make it work without DD per the author.

 

DD does not put handcuffs and chains on vendors, you have some other mod doing that. If you mean on them instead of in their inventory, I've seen that mostly with Sexlab Sexual Fame, it's an option in the MCM. Other mods can distribute devices as worn items to NPCs as well.

For SLSF, it's this option. Disable it and NPCs won't get collared any more. It won't remove it from NPCs it already distributed to though.

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The missing textures should be addressed in DD 5.2 beta, but if you don't want to go to a beta release I have the missing textures on the troubleshooting post (expand the 5.0/5.1 section and get the patch under "Missing DD textures if you *don't* use DCL: "). They're from DCL, so you will only get missing textures if you don't have DCL installed. If you're missing more than those, you have some install issue going on.

 

You won't have the devices distributed with only DD installed. DD is a framework, other mods are needed to distribute the devices. Remove those mods and you'll never get anything from DD that you don't add yourself with the console or the additem menu mod. And if you think DD had a bunch of extra crap, you should see what's going on with the newer ZAZ 9 mod....

 

Your problems are the other mods that integrate with DD, not DD itself.

The reason I'm asking is maybe the author can find a way to get the mod working without DD.

Yes, DD randomly distributes devices to NPCs because it's glitchy trash. Don't know if it's a "feature" or a bug, but either way it's 100% DD's fault, no other mod. On the install I currently have, I don't have any other mods that use DD beside Parasites and no other DD related mods. 

The missing textures will never be addressed. I simply don't believe it, the entire mod is intended as a troll to piss off players and the author will certainly not fix things. For example locking the MCM with the "extra hard" default as soon as a DD device is put on; so that someone who just installed DD has to go back to a previous save the second some glitched DD crap appears on their character out of nowhere, it's definitely a troll mod made by a troll. So I'm sure it's a "feature" of the mod that there are always missing textures.

As for bloat DD loads up the game with hundreds of junk scripts not necessary for most mods using the framework. It's a mess. Don't know about ZAZ 9 but I'm not using it so...  
My problems are definitely with DD itself. ?

Edited December 7, 2022 by fmilluminatus

[Lenore]

14 hours ago, fmilluminatus said:

Yes, DD randomly distributes devices to NPCs because it's glitchy trash. Don't know if it's a "feature" or a bug, but either way it's 100% DD's fault, no other mod. On the install I currently have, I don't have any other mods that use DD beside Parasites and no other DD related mods. 

 

Sexlab Fame has a box you can click off so that npc's are not given DD devices. I suspect it's fame that distributes the devices. LOL, but don't mind me I can see you have a lot of issues with DD. *shrug* Just thought to provide a tip.

 

 

Edited December 7, 2022 by Lenore

[kaizersoze27]

Running SSE version and getting consistent crash when killing a bandit in Trevas watch. With SexLab-Parasites.esp everything works fine. .NET framework crashlog attached. Points to "Parasite Repellent" from this mod as the likely cause

Crash_2022_12_10_13-56-5.txt

[kaizersoze27]

6 hours ago, kaizersoze27 said:

Running SSE version and getting consistent crash when killing a bandit in Trevas watch. With SexLab-Parasites.esp everything works fine. .NET framework crashlog attached. Points to "Parasite Repellent" from this mod as the likely cause

Crash_2022_12_10_13-56-5.txt 119.64 kB · 0 downloads

Reloading old save outside of Trava's watch, waiting 1 game hour and re-entering works

[zarantha]

On 12/6/2022 at 9:50 PM, fmilluminatus said:

The reason I'm asking is maybe the author can find a way to get the mod working without DD.

Yes, DD randomly distributes devices to NPCs because it's glitchy trash. Don't know if it's a "feature" or a bug, but either way it's 100% DD's fault, no other mod. On the install I currently have, I don't have any other mods that use DD beside Parasites and no other DD related mods. 

The missing textures will never be addressed. I simply don't believe it, the entire mod is intended as a troll to piss off players and the author will certainly not fix things. For example locking the MCM with the "extra hard" default as soon as a DD device is put on; so that someone who just installed DD has to go back to a previous save the second some glitched DD crap appears on their character out of nowhere, it's definitely a troll mod made by a troll. So I'm sure it's a "feature" of the mod that there are always missing textures.

As for bloat DD loads up the game with hundreds of junk scripts not necessary for most mods using the framework. It's a mess. Don't know about ZAZ 9 but I'm not using it so...  
My problems are definitely with DD itself. ?

 

Well, if you're not going to believe the person maintaining DD for SE, do whatever you want.  I have had multiple questions on how to get devices with only DD installed, so no matter what you think, its another mod doing it. As both I and Lenore said, SLSF does the exact thing you're complaining about.

 

The textures I've explained, and without more info, I can't say more than others have installed the patch i mentioned and all their texture problems are gone. And that texture issue has been fixed in the newer releases. The DD author is human and mistakes get made. Sometimes I compound the mistakes unintentionally when I convert the mod. And it is large and could be argued that it's bloated. The latex/ebonite is not to everyone's taste (i don't like it myself). But it sounds like you've got your own opinion and don't care to ask in the right place (the DD SE thread) to resolve the problems that can be resolved and would rather just complain. ?‍♀️

 

You original question is answered here, which is why I said the answer would be 'no'.

https://github.com/SkyrimLL/SkLLmods/wiki/Parasites:-FAQ#q-i-dont-like-devious-devices-will-we-ever-get-a-version-without-it

 

(Sorry for the late reply. Forgot to check the date after my time in the hospital for a stubborn infection)

Edited December 10, 2022 by zarantha

[tonitrulupus]

On 9/12/2022 at 4:12 PM, tonitrulupus said:

I am not sure if an answer was given, I have an issue when I m playing along Serena will be be chosen to be a milking cow in devious stories, this would be find but the issues is her breast become flat and looks more like a 2 d then 3 d like she was, either I need to have the ransom select turned off or I need to know how to remove her from that list, it is rather annoying and her breast look really off, I have seen something like this, when one of the devious bras are on a NPC or PC is removed but the effect is still present and flattens the chest,  If someone could give me a hand with this.

 

I had asked this question a little while ago, does anyone have an answer, I have seen this type of issue with the metal bras in DD, where it was not properly removed , it make the breast look compressed. I am now seeing this  with my character. is there any way to stop this or correct this, I have also asked if there is a way to remove a character/npc from the milking cow list?

[azaria777]

heyy, how do i start the chaurus queen quest?

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, azaria777 said:

heyy, how do i start the chaurus queen quest?

 

find lastelle near morthal. she's in the swamp near an abandoned shack.

[fmilluminatus]

On 12/10/2022 at 11:05 PM, zarantha said:

 

Well, if you're not going to believe the person maintaining DD for SE, do whatever you want.  I have had multiple questions on how to get devices with only DD installed, so no matter what you think, its another mod doing it. As both I and Lenore said, SLSF does the exact thing you're complaining about.

 

The textures I've explained, and without more info, I can't say more than others have installed the patch i mentioned and all their texture problems are gone. And that texture issue has been fixed in the newer releases. The DD author is human and mistakes get made. Sometimes I compound the mistakes unintentionally when I convert the mod. And it is large and could be argued that it's bloated. The latex/ebonite is not to everyone's taste (i don't like it myself). But it sounds like you've got your own opinion and don't care to ask in the right place (the DD SE thread) to resolve the problems that can be resolved and would rather just complain. ?‍♀️

 

You original question is answered here, which is why I said the answer would be 'no'.

https://github.com/SkyrimLL/SkLLmods/wiki/Parasites:-FAQ#q-i-dont-like-devious-devices-will-we-ever-get-a-version-without-it

 

(Sorry for the late reply. Forgot to check the date after my time in the hospital for a stubborn infection)

I mean, you're telling me not to believe my own eyes. I have an install with no other DD mods except parasites, and parasites doesn't put random chains on NPCs (unless it does and I don't know?). So it has to be DD doing it.

TBH, I'm not really interested in "asking to resolve problems" with DD as it's a mod I don't want to use anyways, but is simply forced on me as a dependency for a mod I actually do want to use. It would be different if DD was literally just a framework, without adding a bunch of bloated scripts, a bunch of junk items to the game, and a bunch of unwanted behaviors.

 

It's like saying "if you want to use my quest mod, you need to install a completely different quest mod with quests you don't like and don't want to play". I'm super disappointed I can't use parasites without DD, but DD in it's current form is cancer so I think I'll just have to skip both for now. 

Honestly, since you're doing the conversions if there's a way to strip DD straight down to a pure framework that mods like parasites can use, without adding anything else to the game, I would be way less negative about it and I think that would be great.

Also, absolutely no need to apologize for late replies! I can take days to reply and I don't even have legitimate excuses for it. ? I hope you're feeling much better now! ☺️

Edited December 14, 2022 by fmilluminatus

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, fmilluminatus said:

I mean, you're telling me not to believe my own eyes. I have an install with no other DD mods except parasites, and parasites doesn't put random chains on NPCs (unless it does and I don't know?). So it has to be DD doing it.

TBH, I'm not really interested in "asking to resolve problems" with DD as it's a mod I don't want to use anyways, but is simply forced on me as a dependency for a mod I actually do want to use. It would be different if DD was literally just a framework, without adding a bunch of bloated scripts, a bunch of junk items to the game, and a bunch of unwanted behaviors.

 

It's like saying "if you want to use my quest mod, you need to install a completely different quest mod with quests you don't like and don't want to play". I'm super disappointed I can't use parasites without DD, but DD in it's current form is cancer so I think I'll just have to skip both for now. 

Honestly, since you're doing the conversions if there's a way to strip DD straight down to a pure framework that mods like parasites can use, without adding anything else to the game, I would be way less negative about it and I think that would be great.

Also, absolutely no need to apologize for late replies! I can take days to reply and I don't even have legitimate excuses for it. ? I hope you're feeling much better now! ☺️

 

I'm doing much better now, thanks.

 

So I'm guessing we have ended up with very different experiences, because you're asking me to not believe my eyes too.  

I have never, ever, in all the years i've been using DD, had it put something on an NPC that wasn't done by another mod. DCL has it's bondage girls, SexLab Sexual Fame is the only one I've had adding collars and shit to NPCs that I didn't want. Otherwise, I have never seen devices on base game NPCs. There's simply nothing there to tweak because it is acting like a framework for myself and all the other people I've interacted with.

 

I'd like to get to the bottom of if, but I understand it's just not something you want anyway, and I get that. Only reason I ever got into DD was for other mods that required it. I could do without all the bondage just fine.

[venomr]

2 hours ago, fmilluminatus said:

I mean, you're telling me not to believe my own eyes. I have an install with no other DD mods except parasites, and parasites doesn't put random chains on NPCs (unless it does and I don't know?). So it has to be DD doing it.
 

 

 

For me the "page up" key used for autorun will also put chains on an npc if they're standing in front of me.

[poporaltemporal]

I am playing the sisterhood of dibella mod and some of the priestess are bold. I tried to find information if the mod uses external hair but could not find any. Some of the NPCs that hair is missing are unique to the mod and I do not think I can have anything that would break the hair for the NPCs. Does anyone have ideas why this is?

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, poporaltemporal said:

I am playing the sisterhood of dibella mod and some of the priestess are bold. I tried to find information if the mod uses external hair but could not find any. Some of the NPCs that hair is missing are unique to the mod and I do not think I can have anything that would break the hair for the NPCs. Does anyone have ideas why this is?

 

I don't think they do, but they might. you'd have to identify the npcs for someone else to check. otherwise, you can try just regenerating the facegen in the the creation kit.

[tonitrulupus]

On 12/13/2022 at 4:42 AM, azaria777 said:

heyy, how do i start the chaurus queen quest?

if you have Alternate Start you can start it through there as well

[panzer1701]

Has anyone been successful in using SD+ for AE? I've followed all of the steps and ran it through Cathedral  but I still get a black screen when I load in the game. My only other idea is there is some conflict somewhere that is causing the black screen

[belegost]

I assume Warmbodies patch is just that: a patch for original Warmbodies which has not been converted to SE, which would kinda make it irrelevant. Or is that a full version which "just works"? Anyone can share an info on it?

[zarantha]

12 hours ago, panzer1701 said:

Has anyone been successful in using SD+ for AE? I've followed all of the steps and ran it through Cathedral  but I still get a black screen when I load in the game. My only other idea is there is some conflict somewhere that is causing the black screen

 

Just use the SE conversion linked on the first post of this thread. There's nothing in the mod that needs conversion for AE only. And make sure you grab the resources part as well as the main mod. make sure you're running fnis, and check your animation count. try to keep them under 10k if you can. Try a new game.

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, belegost said:

I assume Warmbodies patch is just that: a patch for original Warmbodies which has not been converted to SE, which would kinda make it irrelevant. Or is that a full version which "just works"? Anyone can share an info on it?

 

The patch is a full replacement for the original mod. You don't need it. All that is in the BSA is one script and it's source, i don't even know why they bothered packing it like that.