SkyrimLL/DeepBlueFrog mods conversion to SSE

[ebbluminous]

Hello. Just wondering if I have missed something with Mr Frog's mods. As the LE ones have not been updated since Jan, are they considered finished, abandoned, on a modding break?

[zarantha]

On 11/3/2022 at 3:20 PM, ivraell said:

Really enjoy these mods, glad to see the AE/SE compatible versions too.

 

Had a few hiccups along the way with my latest Skyrim install that sent me down an hour long rabbit hole of trying to figure out what was crashing my game, only to realize I never downloaded SD+ Resources. I did not feel particularly good about figuring that out! So, I am not exactly the smartest of modders and often miss obvious things.

 

I've got things working smoothly, mostly. My current issue is this: with Hormones, my armor is not adapting to the changes. I know the changes are happening because without armor on, the character's body reflects the growth changes. With everything on, it's back to my baseline BodySlide settings.

 

Is the mod Hormones supposed to be able to affect custom armors? If it is, is there something I'm missing to give Hormones the ability to take control of tweaking these armors in respect to the growth affecting the player? 

 

It seems like it has something to do with how I set my BodySlide files, but I'm not sure what. Some things work - like some black robes I have that I haven't installed custom replacers for. However, for any custom armor I've made bodyslide files for or vanilla armor that I have replacers for, they revert to the baseline BodySlide files I made and are not affected by growth.

 

Adjusting the Armor/Cloth shrink values in MCM does not affect custom armors, but it does affect the armors/cloth in the game that I have not replaced.

 

 

 

it's not hormones controlling that, morphs are controlled by racemenu or slif if you have that. if your body is reflecting the changes, then hormones is working correctly. make sure you built your armors in bodyslide with the morph option checked. if they don't have bodyslides, this will never work. If you're creating the bodyslides yourself, i have no idea if you created them correctly (did you conform to the reference shape?).

[zarantha]

On 11/5/2022 at 5:18 AM, ebbluminous said:

Hello. Just wondering if I have missed something with Mr Frog's mods. As the LE ones have not been updated since Jan, are they considered finished, abandoned, on a modding break?

 

I'm assuming modding break. But we don't know.

[ivraell]

31 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

it's not hormones controlling that, morphs are controlled by racemenu or slif if you have that. if your body is reflecting the changes, then hormones is working correctly. make sure you built your armors in bodyslide with the morph option checked. if they don't have bodyslides, this will never work. If you're creating the bodyslides yourself, i have no idea if you created them correctly (did you conform to the reference shape?).

 

When I mentioned I was not the smarted modders in the world, this is the kind of thing I was talking about. This was it, thank you. I didn't check the morphs option. I don't think I've ever even looked at that box before and I'm on my nth reinstall/mass modding of Skyrim, but this also I think resolves issues I've had with some SL mods and my modded armors  too that I just sort of shrugged off in the past as a problem I had no idea how to fix.

 

And I was probably using the wrong terminology when I said building the bodyslides myself - I just meant build using the Bodyslide exe to batch build the files from a preset, not creating them myself.

 

Again, thanks for the help. I am an idiot.

 

 

Edit: Does this mean I have to change this option in Triggers from the default NiOverride to Body Morphs? It seems to work as the default NiOverride, but I don't think I've downloaded NetImmerse Override for my AE edition as I couldn't ever really find a current version of it.

 

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Edited November 6, 2022 by ivraell

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, ivraell said:

 

When I mentioned I was not the smarted modders in the world, this is the kind of thing I was talking about. This was it, thank you. I didn't check the morphs option. I don't think I've ever even looked at that box before and I'm on my nth reinstall/mass modding of Skyrim, but this also I think resolves issues I've had with some SL mods and my modded armors  too that I just sort of shrugged off in the past as a problem I had no idea how to fix.

 

And I was probably using the wrong terminology when I said building the bodyslides myself - I just meant build using the Bodyslide exe to batch build the files from a preset, not creating them myself.

 

Again, thanks for the help. I am an idiot.

 

 

Edit: Does this mean I have to change this option in Triggers from the default NiOverride to Body Morphs? It seems to work as the default NiOverride, but I don't think I've downloaded NetImmerse Override for my AE edition as I couldn't ever really find a current version of it.

 

 

 

NiOverride is part of Racemenu, you don't need a separate download for it. It should be fine to leave it. There's a bodymorphs file you need to use (if you don't make it yourself) to use the bodymorphs check box somewhere in this thread.

[ivraell]

10 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

NiOverride is part of Racemenu, you don't need a separate download for it. It should be fine to leave it. There's a bodymorphs file you need to use (if you don't make it yourself) to use the bodymorphs check box somewhere in this thread.

 

Okay, awesome. Thanks again!

[no_way]

Anyone ever find a fix for the black loading screen?  Trying to add the latest SD+ to my game, still in the starting cell of Alternate Start, but it gets hung on a black screen and never fully loads.

[ivraell]

Breasts not being affected by changes from Hormones is my current problem that I have yet to be able to solve. These were working previously, but broke at some point and I'm not sure when/how. All other saves and new characters have the same issue.

 

My load order is included below.

 

I have no idea why, but my morphs aren't working in a strange way. Through some troubleshooting and use of the debug menu, I've found Belly/Butt/Schlong/Weight all work, but breasts do not change except while specific armors are equipped (mainly of the base game armors that have not been changed by other mods, like Miners Clothes). Breasts are also not changed while naked. Armor sets made up of many different pieces (like TAWOBA Bikini sets) will function properly on butt/belly morphs but not breast. I've got no idea what's preventing breasts from being affected by morphs while other parts of the body are. 

 

I tried some Parasite armors on as well through the debug, and found that Chaurus Queen stuff does change the breast node while Tentacle/Living/Spriggan armors do not.

 

I've reinstalled my XP32 skeleton, I've ran BodySlide multiple times while making sure 'Build Morphs' was checked. I tried using CBBE Body instead of CBBE 3BBB Body Amazing Outfit/Body instead and encountered the same issue (while also running as Administrator). CBPC physics and SMP physics both work when I toggle between them, though I don't know if those things would even have anything to do with this. I've run Nemesis again because why not? 

 

I am honestly not sure where my issues lie, or even how to figure out where my problem stems from. I don't even know if it's directly related to Hormones, or if this is just where I more easily see an underlying issue in my mods from somewhere else. I figure it could be anything from an incompatibility with another mod, load order problem, or random setting in a mod somewhere I didn't tick. I'll continue to try and resolve this on my own, but any assistance is appreciated.

 

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As a semi-related note, while trying to troubleshoot this problem, I found that while using showracemenu, none of my CBBE 3BA Morphs sliders were working ingame, or I would have posted here earlier. It was odd, considering that even while this was happening, Hormones was able to change belly/butt/schlong. After a headache-inducing search for what my issue is, I found that the mod 'SSE Engine Fixes' needed a change to the EngineFixes.toml in the SKSE plugins folder to adjust Memory Manager and Scaleform Allocator both from True to False in order for my RaceMenu CBBE 3BA Morphs sliders to work ingame. I am not sure how relevant this information is since it didn't help my present issue. I have no fucking idea why this is a thing.

 

Ultimately, if I can't resolve this... thankfully I prefer ass over tits.

 

 

EDIT: I realize I picked up Estrus Chaurus not long ago. It's probably that. I think it's a weird interaction still but I'll have to test it later tomorrow or something.

 

EDIT2: Chaurus is also not able to change the breast nodes on the body properly, but things like Miners Clothes are changed. So, I think I at least know my issue is not with something I did to break a DFG mod specifically (probably). I'll look elsewhere, but any advice to an amateur modder is still appreciated.

 

 

 

EDIT3: I have no fucking idea what resolved this issue for me, as one day it wasn't working at all and the next it was. I believe installing Sexlab Inflation helped somehow, but I really don't know how or why. When I first tried SLIF, it actually broke every morph node and not a single body part was getting changed. A day or so after pretty much giving up, I logged into a save that was previously broken during all my uninstalling/reinstalling of mods that somehow came back to life and allowed me to load in and SLIF was properly changing to values of everything - base skin and the few modded armors I tested out. SLIF, Hormones, and EC+ are all active now.

 

It will take me some time to see if any of the changes Hormones applies over time take into effect, but SLIF is 100% adjusting all morphs now. I am not familiar enough with the interactions between Hormones and SLIF to know whether or not they are behaving together, but I suppose I'll figure it out once my character gets active out in the world for a while again.

 

Also note for anyone having similar issues as I am: I have an SLIF bodymorph setting installed 'SLIF-3ba-custom.7z' but I don't remember where I found this during my mass search for answers across many threads. It is definitely on Loverslab somewhere and probably in the SLIF thread or the 3BBB Advanced thread.

Edited November 10, 2022 by ivraell

[NotRGBJackal]

Does anybody else have a similar bug with the Bimbo function of Hormones on SE? After a certain amount of days the "Days as a Bimbo" stat resets itself to zero, while the "Bimbo Level" is still the correct number. Does anybody remember/know the fix for this, or what was causing it exactly?

 

EDIT: Essentially this prevents my character from ever reaching the fifteen days required for the permanent transformation. Perhaps there is some way to change the amount of days required for this? In any case, thanks for your time in advance.

Edited November 14, 2022 by NotRGBJackal

[burgereater4]

am i the only one who is having dependency issues with devious devices integration.esm
i'm trying to use parasites and ive looked through many comments here to see if anyone else is having the same issue as the current devious devices version doesnt have this plugin or whatever

[zarantha]

4 hours ago, burgereater4 said:

am i the only one who is having dependency issues with devious devices integration.esm
i'm trying to use parasites and ive looked through many comments here to see if anyone else is having the same issue as the current devious devices version doesnt have this plugin or whatever

 

Yes. Because that ESM is included with DD 5.0 and later. Make sure you're activating all the ESMs/ESPs after install and use a mod manager like MO2 or Vortex. The 5.x installers are an all in one installer, there hasn't been a separate installer for the DD plugins for years.

 

DD 5.1 SE can be downloaded here: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5878-devious-devices-se/

DD 5.2 beta and DLLs for game versions other than 1.5.97 can be downloaded from here: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se/page/110/#comment-3077930

 

[Nina_Mercer]

I'm having issues getting the facehugger and chaurus worm parasites to work properly... they always appear at my character's feet, rather than on/in her body... the other ones work perfectly fine, however. It's just these two species, that are partially clipping through the floor.

Modlist, and load order.
modlist.txt loadorder.txt

Please note, that i use LOOT to sort my load order.

[Nina_Mercer]

They appear in the correct spot, in outfit studio.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, Nina_Mercer said:

I'm having issues getting the facehugger and chaurus worm parasites to work properly... they always appear at my character's feet, rather than on/in her body... the other ones work perfectly fine, however. It's just these two species, that are partially clipping through the floor.

Modlist, and load order.
modlist.txt loadorder.txt

Please note, that i use LOOT to sort my load order.

 

Usually, something laying around your feet is a skeleton or smp issue. try installing faster smp and making sure nothing except mnc is overwriting xp32 skeleton.

[Nina_Mercer]

37 minutes ago, zarantha said:

 

Usually, something laying around your feet is a skeleton or smp issue. try installing faster smp and making sure nothing except mnc is overwriting xp32 skeleton.

Alright, thanks. I'll give that a shot.

[Nina_Mercer]

15 minutes ago, Nina_Mercer said:

Alright, thanks. I'll give that a shot.

And, it worked! The parasites are in the right spots, now.

[Gudulba]

I always immediately get a CTD when the new and improved Daedric Alicia is supposed to spawn (the "normal" Alicia is fine). .NetScriptFramework shows the error as seen in the spoiler.

 

What could be the issue? It seems somehow to be related to the head shape??

 

Spoiler

Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x7FF763792BEF
(SkyrimSE.exe+132BEF) on thread 8716!

FrameworkName: NetScriptFramework
FrameworkVersion: 15
FrameworkArchitecture: x64
GameLibrary: SkyrimSE
GameLibraryVersion: 18
ApplicationName: SkyrimSE.exe
ApplicationVersion: 1.5.97.0
VersionInfo: Successfully loaded
Time: 22 Nov 2022 07:58:37.847

Possible relevant objects (4)
{
   [   0]    BSTriShape(Name: `_Alicia_FemaleHeadDaedric`)
   [  45]    BSFaceGenNiNode(Name: `BSFaceGenNiNodeSkinned`)
   [  59]    BSDynamicTriShape(Name: `FemaleBrowsHuman07`)
   [  60]    NiNode(Name: null)
}

Probable callstack
{
   [0]   0x7FF763792BEF     (SkyrimSE.exe+132BEF) Mutex::Lock1_132BD0+1F
   [1]   0x7FF7642D23D7     (SkyrimSE.exe+C723D7)
BSDynamicTriShape::unk_C723C0+17
   [2]   0x7FF763A3647A     (SkyrimSE.exe+3D647A) unk_3D6410+6A
   [3]   0x7FF763A37839     (SkyrimSE.exe+3D7839)
BSFaceGenMorphDataHead::unk_3D7740+F9
   [4]   0x7FF763A38DC7     (SkyrimSE.exe+3D8DC7)
BSFaceGenNiNode::unk_3D8D50+77
   [5]   0x7FF763A38BE7     (SkyrimSE.exe+3D8BE7)
BSFaceGenNiNode::unk_3D8980+267
   [6]   0x7FF763A39868     (SkyrimSE.exe+3D9868)
UpdateMorphingJob_3D9850+18
   [7]   0x7FF764292A81     (SkyrimSE.exe+C32A81) JobList::Process_C329B0+D1
   [8]   0x7FF764294C48     (SkyrimSE.exe+C34C48)
BSJobs::JobThread::Func1_C34930+318
   [9]   0x7FF76426D6BD     (SkyrimSE.exe+C0D6BD) StartAddress_0_C0D680+3D
   [10]  0x7FFCD7717BD4     (KERNEL32.DLL+17BD4)
   [11]  0x7FFCD860CE51     (ntdll.dll+6CE51)

 

 

Edited November 22, 2022 by Gudulba

[zarantha]

16 hours ago, Gudulba said:

I always immediately get a CTD when the new and improved Daedric Alicia is supposed to spawn (the "normal" Alicia is fine). .NetScriptFramework shows the error as seen in the spoiler.

 

What could be the issue? It seems somehow to be related to the head shape??

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Unhandled native exception occurred at 0x7FF763792BEF
(SkyrimSE.exe+132BEF) on thread 8716!

FrameworkName: NetScriptFramework
FrameworkVersion: 15
FrameworkArchitecture: x64
GameLibrary: SkyrimSE
GameLibraryVersion: 18
ApplicationName: SkyrimSE.exe
ApplicationVersion: 1.5.97.0
VersionInfo: Successfully loaded
Time: 22 Nov 2022 07:58:37.847

Possible relevant objects (4)
{
   [   0]    BSTriShape(Name: `_Alicia_FemaleHeadDaedric`)
   [  45]    BSFaceGenNiNode(Name: `BSFaceGenNiNodeSkinned`)
   [  59]    BSDynamicTriShape(Name: `FemaleBrowsHuman07`)
   [  60]    NiNode(Name: null)
}

Probable callstack
{
   [0]   0x7FF763792BEF     (SkyrimSE.exe+132BEF) Mutex::Lock1_132BD0+1F
   [1]   0x7FF7642D23D7     (SkyrimSE.exe+C723D7)
BSDynamicTriShape::unk_C723C0+17
   [2]   0x7FF763A3647A     (SkyrimSE.exe+3D647A) unk_3D6410+6A
   [3]   0x7FF763A37839     (SkyrimSE.exe+3D7839)
BSFaceGenMorphDataHead::unk_3D7740+F9
   [4]   0x7FF763A38DC7     (SkyrimSE.exe+3D8DC7)
BSFaceGenNiNode::unk_3D8D50+77
   [5]   0x7FF763A38BE7     (SkyrimSE.exe+3D8BE7)
BSFaceGenNiNode::unk_3D8980+267
   [6]   0x7FF763A39868     (SkyrimSE.exe+3D9868)
UpdateMorphingJob_3D9850+18
   [7]   0x7FF764292A81     (SkyrimSE.exe+C32A81) JobList::Process_C329B0+D1
   [8]   0x7FF764294C48     (SkyrimSE.exe+C34C48)
BSJobs::JobThread::Func1_C34930+318
   [9]   0x7FF76426D6BD     (SkyrimSE.exe+C0D6BD) StartAddress_0_C0D680+3D
   [10]  0x7FFCD7717BD4     (KERNEL32.DLL+17BD4)
   [11]  0x7FFCD860CE51     (ntdll.dll+6CE51)

 

 

 

Just attach the whole log here please.

 

As a guess, that file is corrupt or didn't get converted. not too many people are complaining about it, so maybe delete the mod and reinstall it.

[Gudulba]

6 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Just attach the whole log here please.

 

As a guess, that file is corrupt or didn't get converted. not too many people are complaining about it, so maybe delete the mod and reinstall it.

Thank you very much for you input!

I have found out that with only SexLabAliciaPainslut20210131SSE.7z installed, everything is working just fine. It's the Alicia-Painslut-SL-optional 20190502.7z, which causes my issue. I have now removed it. No CTD anymore ?

[ravensm785]

@DeepBlueFrog  found an error with a ground mesh. "DA_Mask_GND"   I tried to re create one but the only Tutorial   i know of needs a osp slidedata to create it. Anyways, i Used another nif file "DA_Mask" to make it. Just Copied the name over. Temporary fix but should work for now

[StripedWhite]

I'm having an odd issue with Parasites on SE, where the flare events trigger way too often, several times a minute, or just eject themselves from my character right after being activated. Does anyone have any idea what the cause of this could be? I've tried fiddling with the flare timer slider, but it doesn't seem to change anything for me. Parasites like spider eggs/penis and chaurus worms get pushed out almost immediately, while face huggers keep staggering my character from "squeezing your throat" and the living armour keeps constantly triggering tentacle attacks.

[PhoenixObjection]

For The Chaurus Queen and the Brood Maiden quest from Sexlab Parasites, when Danica tells you to cleanse the corruption of the Gildergreen apparently you're supposed to pull a rusted saw out from the roots, but I can't find this thing for the life of me. Does anyone have an image of what exactly I need to be looking for? I've got nettlebane equipped, I've had to use tgm to look for this thing and at this point I half convinced that whatever I need to activate has just not spawned at all.

Edited November 27, 2022 by PhoenixObjection

[Guest]

Hi,

 

Should the resource pack for Sanguine Debauchery resources override zaz pack? Similar question - Should Devious Devices Override Zaz pack or the other way around? There is a single conflict there

Edited November 27, 2022 by Guest

[zarantha]

6 hours ago, klhdiewojmp said:

Hi,

 

Should the resource pack for Sanguine Debauchery resources override zaz pack? Similar question - Should Devious Devices Override Zaz pack or the other way around? There is a single conflict there

 

It shouldn't matter for any of them, they're all mesh conflicts. For DD and ZAZ they're the same file even. I think for SD too, but it's been a while since I had that in my LO.

[StripedWhite]

On 11/26/2022 at 4:02 PM, StripedWhite said:

I'm having an odd issue with Parasites on SE, where the flare events trigger way too often, several times a minute, or just eject themselves from my character right after being activated. Does anyone have any idea what the cause of this could be? I've tried fiddling with the flare timer slider, but it doesn't seem to change anything for me. Parasites like spider eggs/penis and chaurus worms get pushed out almost immediately, while face huggers keep staggering my character from "squeezing your throat" and the living armour keeps constantly triggering tentacle attacks.

I have no idea what I did, but I no longer seem to be having this issue. Maybe it got scared by me posting about it.