Back In my day

[RitualClarity]

50 minutes ago, Alkpaz said:

I did start speaking Spanish to a NA while I lived in Arizona, he didn't say a damn thing, instead fellow dorm mates mentioned to me later he was NA, so they are pretty chill about it. Israeli/Palestinian I wouldn't know, but if a Muslim gives you an authorized version of the Qu'ran (an identifying stamp) you best wrap it and not just lug it around like any common book. I was stopped by a Muslim for not being respectful towards the written word. As for the whole anthropology thing, I only took The introduction to anthropology, and at the time (90s) science had not discovered that DNA was shared between Homo Sapiens Sapiens and Neanderthal, so it wasn't a big topic for at least "intro to". 

 

You could argue that a NA and a "Mexican" (country of origin) share the same bloodline, since Aztecs, Olmec, Mayan etc did travel pretty far north, and didn't just stop at the Rio Grande and say: "Welps, time to turn back peepz, we can't cross this river without our 'papers'".

 

Also, if you look at Filipinos (who were also settled by the Spanish) you will note how similar they look to less thinned bloodline Mayans/Incas, confirming the belief that they did indeed cross the Bering Strait around 70K-15K (roughly the time-frame the land bridge existed) years ago. 

 

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If you were to switch the dress of either Filipinos or Mayans, could you really tell them apart? 

 

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I personally have a hard time telling even adults who are NA to Latinos, hence why I made that mistake when I was living in Arizona. I was more careful later, heck I've even mistaken several Filipinos for being Latino, since some have Spanish last names.

Reason I stated you can't assume. 
AS for the NA.. I have a group around the school that I went to. (college) and they were quite proud of being native American and rightfully they should be. I know of some that kept on pushing it and judging them as Mexican (even with the Native American Jewelry, typical hair and such.. ) However, now thinking about it.. they were very active in their culture and learning about it from their community organization so they might have been pretty sensitive. That and those people had to be pretty stupid to assume based on their dress that they were Mexican.  

 

A job I had had a lot of really devout Jewish families. There was someone I worked with that looked like one of their brothers (of a customer that came in) I assumed.. (I was young) and he got really pissed at me. Really pissed at me.

 

I know some Muslims and I wouldn't think they would give an authorized version of the Qu'ran to carry around unsupervised. I'd imagine it would be the same for any other group that is devout (again identify culturally as Muslim person) They'd have to trust you and likely you should already know how to treat the book properly.  Also depends on where you are. I'd venture to guess that if you were in a Muslim governed country and violated those rules... you'd be in very serious trouble. .. Again differences on culture and environment.

 

Physically Native Americans and Mexicans may very well have a lot of similar facial structures and even close enough to each other that they could donate organs successfully. The point I tried to make is the CULTURE and their identification is what matters. Who they are, what they believe, what customs they have. Same goes for Middle Eastern groups. They might look the same but they are very different culturally. Some might call that "semantics" but many will fight and die for what they believe in. Pretty serious to them.

 

As for family groups (Mayans, Philippines, Middle eastern, European etc)  They might look very much alike but that might just be that. There are patricidal lineages (x chromosome if I recall correctly) and Microcondia DNA (mother if I recall correctly)  I had a video where a female person that identified as an African American woman found out her ancestry was that of a White woman on her mother's side.  Even though anyone would swear that she was African American. She was trying to find out her family history from a site that specialized in African lineages and tracing them for those individuals that descended from the slave trade.

 

Now switching clothing from Filipinos and Mayans... If you asked them to meet each other and interact... you will likely find that they ... can easily point out many differences in what they do, act, and believe.   Hell just take someone that is a third or so generation here in the United States.. Many times if they were to meet up people from their homeland. They will be noticeably different most of the time among themselves.  Often times it is even noticeable from Grandparents to Great Grandchildren... as they adapt and integrate customs and actions they find in their current country.

 

 

 

 

[RitualClarity]

7 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said:

Well.....we can still make fun of space aliens at least. Why do we always suppose that E.T. will be superior to us poor, dumb humans anyway?

 

I mean back in my day, the Enterprise was going around kicking all dem alian asses!!!

LOL

AS I recall... Enterprise did kick all the aliens asses!!!! Many times and at times quite severely... Then kicked the asses of enhanced humans as well (Khan ;))

 

Jokes aside.. I doubt aliens are concerned if you miss judge their ethnicity or ancestry.  They's likely just correct you if they thought it was important.. LIke point out that they are green instead of Grey... etc. etc. LOL

 

ON a personal note.. I get mistaken all the damn time.  Usually people believe I am from whatever nationality they are from (European) German, Irish, Russian, Polish, English, Dutch, Jewish from various locations throughout Europe. etc, etc. Often I am quite amused when I inform them I am not... The shock on their face. lol.  However, I might be many different races I am not aware of as I only have my ancestry traced about 300~380 years back.

[KoolHndLuke]

 

[RitualClarity]

My brain melted and is now dripping out my ear after watching that.. .lol

[Kendo 2]

39 minutes ago, RitualClarity said:

I might be many different races I am not aware of as I only have my ancestry traced about 300~380 years back.

Mongrel heathen, get your nuclear DNA analyzed (or in your case analized).

[FauxFurry]

On 2/24/2019 at 8:14 PM, Corsayr said:

Back in MY day, we didn't have your fancy 1 Terabyte hard drives! We had 9.1 gigs that's all! and it had to last, cuz you could probably only fit 2, cuz we didn't have your fancy SATA, no siree it was IDE or nuthin*... 

 

What??!?

 

I'm not as old as you fossils ??

 

 

 

_{*(Ok ya there was SCSI and I actually had an Ulta wide SCSI PC I built, because I could!)}

[Psalam]

This was my first computer (Commodore 64 for those of you too young to recognize it).

 

 

That was the best there was in personal computing at the time (Ronald Reagan was president). While it was quite capable of being programmed I admit that I used it more as a game box (spending what free time I had in the midst of post-graduate studies playing "Pong").

 

Of course, old habits die hard. I spend more time (between work hours) using Skyrim mods than I do making them! ?

[Psalam]

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42 minutes ago, Alkpaz said:

Don't forget those keyboards were almost impossible to break without a hammer.

 

 

Yeah, my father used to always say what a klutz I was and, despite my "best" efforts I never even gave it more than a scrape. 

[GrimReaper]

On 2/25/2019 at 4:29 PM, wokking56 said:

That is not the sole venue of people of color sorry to inform you.

Sorry RITUAL I have to agree with CPU, from a purely biological standpoint there is just one race. The idea of different races (therefore ethnicities) is a human construct. The age old "those people look or act different than us" so they can't be the same same as us (race). Sure Blacks, Asians, Native American and so on look very different than Whites yet they contain the exact same DNA, with the exception of "Sub-Saharan Africans" (no Neanderthal DNA). Historically even the White peoples differentiated between each other some feeling they were a superior race to the ones they wished to oppress. 

The problem with the 'everything is a social construct' narrative is that it actually is quite dangerous. From a medical standpoint, at least: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/03/990326061953.htm

 

Now, that doesn't mean that 'race' is a term without any associated problems, far from it. But to imply that every single human is identical to every other human in all aspects is quite foolish, in my opinion. Unless, of course, you think that culture and societal norms are powerful enough to change your genetics. I don't think that scientists use the term race anymore, they rather focus on the genetic markers that occur within different groups - mostly based on geography because different environments influenced the natural evolution - instead of a pre-set definition. So, for example, If I am much more likely to be sensitive to the negative health impact of certain foods, drinks, sunlight or whatever, I sure as hell would want to know that shit because I ain't willing to sacrifice my health on the altar of PC culture so that other people can feel better about themselves.

[worik]

2 hours ago, Psalam said:

This was my first computer (Commodore 64 for those of you too young to recognize it).

 

 

That was the best there was in personal computing at the time (Ronald Reagan was president).

+1 on both Thankfully I got one almost for free because my parents knew someone who handled the return shipments from retailers. Broken package and scratches in exchange for 10% of the price was exactly what I could afford on my own.

Back in my days, this was cool

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And speaking of gender equailty - we were an equal 50:50 back then. Everywhere and in every topic. Even when crowding in front of a C64, and doing ... "cool things" while listening to cool SID sound

... still wondering where my generation got lost on the way

[MadMansGun]

my first computer is older than i am:

 

[RitualClarity]

I remember the game at time 0:38...

[KoolHndLuke]

6 minutes ago, RitualClarity said:

I remember the game at time 0:38...

Those games had nice sound effects. Every time I heard them, I wanted to play. Defender, Joust, Contra, Spy Hunter, Tempest to name a few. I wish more game devs paid attention to the sound effects now.......

[Guest]

in my day we had this thing called a dial telephone what a fucking pain " oh shit my hand slipped,have to go round again "....then came push buttons.....what a giant leap forward,we actually had to talk to girls ( if you didn't have a fast car you were fucked ) petrol was 45c a Litre and driving distances were measured in beer....eg 6 beers to get to the Coast

 

Some twit saying some bullshit about nothing didn't make the 6.30 news

[NitroHamlin]

18 hours ago, Psalam said:

This was my first computer (Commodore 64 for those of you too young to recognize it).

 

 

That was the best there was in personal computing at the time (Ronald Reagan was president). While it was quite capable of being programmed I admit that I used it more as a game box (spending what free time I had in the midst of post-graduate studies playing "Pong").

Whenever I'd bring up gaming as a whole, my father would occasionally bring this bad boy up. I cannot for the life of me remember what games he said he played on it in his day though, or if he even told me. Personally I like keyboards like this; the mechanical type ones are a lot easier on my fingers.

 

By the way; has anyone heard of those 'mini consoles' that come with those pre-loaded games? They look like their original counterparts but smaller (and you can't put games in it), there was one of the C64 and the NES.

[RitualClarity]

8 hours ago, NitroHamlin said:

By the way; has anyone heard of those 'mini consoles' that come with those pre-loaded games? They look like their original counterparts but smaller (and you can't put games in it), there was one of the C64 and the NES.

Yes, they sell these at my local Microcenter.  There are many different types and they have different games. As for not putting games into them, that is OK to me. IMO it is ok purchase as they have dozens of those old style games. The key is to have info on what games they play and to be sure you have the max amount of games you like (or remember) in them. That is the best way to choose one of those.

 

TBH, I wasn't that interested in many of those older style games and mostly played them as something to do. Take it or leave it was my thought. My parents got me a Magavox something (pre Atari) and thought they'd be able to get me some games from time to time for my birthday and or rewards etc... I wasn't that intersted in the console and any other games. As far as I remember I didn't get any extra games from what they purchased (or came with the console)

 

I played Atari at a friends house (his mother babysit me) played it when my friend was interested in it and there was co-op but could take it or leave it even then (I believe it was the 2600

[Ernest Lemmingway]

It was an Atari 2600 that got me into gaming. I still remember playing games like Yars' Revenge (with a comic in the manual to explain the story), Mountain King, Haunted House, Pogo, and Tron. Kids today are so hung up on graphics it makes me sick. We didn't have amazing graphics back then. It was all extremely low-res pixels forming very basic shapes. It was the story or the play that made a game popular or not. Young people who keep crying, "Oblivion was better because Morrowind had horrible graphics, waah, waah, waah" (*cough* MxR *cough*), need a kick in the head. Or to be forced to live off of just truly old game consoles for a while. They don't appreciate what we have today.

 

Mini consoles...I'm still torn about them. I'm not a huge fan of Nintendo pre-Gamecube, but those mini arcade consoles with classics like Frogger and Dig Dug I would like to play. I'm hoping Sega puts out a mini console of the Master System. There are games for it I never got to play because so few rental stores where I grew up carried any SMS titles.

[ToJKa]

On 2/26/2019 at 4:29 PM, Psalam said:

This was my first computer (Commodore 64 for those of you too young to recognize it).

 

 

That was the best there was in personal computing at the time (Ronald Reagan was president). While it was quite capable of being programmed I admit that I used it more as a game box (spending what free time I had in the midst of post-graduate studies playing "Pong").

 

Of course, old habits die hard. I spend more time (between work hours) using Skyrim mods than I do making them! ?

I got one of those from a cousin of mine, with some programming books since was making it his career. Those got me programming it too, and it ended up being my profession too.

 

Fun fact, Commodore 64 was very popular in Finland, it was called (unofficially) "Tasavallan tietokone" (~"the Nation's Computer")

[Guest]

On 2/20/2019 at 9:28 PM, Kendo 2 said:

 

• Guys wanted to be part of the man's world.  Work at a power or chemical plant, hot rods, tiddie bars and pool halls, go to Little Saigon and fuck Vietnamese whores, fist fights and black eyes.  The nimrod low-T male feminist running around today would get the living fuck beat out of them.
• Being obnoxious and confrontational like young people are today equaled a serious ass beating or a trip to the emergency room, depending on who you fucked with.
• Being a socialist or communist would get your guts stomped out.  That went for skinheads too since back then we all understood that fascism is socialism-lite.  Today people don't understand that.

Damn, I'm glad people aren't as quick to rush to violence these days. Or at least most people.

 

On 2/21/2019 at 6:25 AM, nonusnomeni said:

back in my days left was all about science

we make laugh of religious peoples because they are believe

and now left believe

in they feelings

fck science and only xx or xy

i believe in my feelings

The left is still as science driven as ever, so I'm a bit confused as to what you mean with this comment. It's 2019. The science behind transgender people is available with a simple Google search.

[nonusnomeni]

35 minutes ago, Freyadiin said:

 

 

The left is still as science driven as ever, so I'm a bit confused as to what you mean with this comment. It's 2019. The science behind transgender people is available with a simple Google search.

https://www.quora.com/Can-XY-chromosomes-change-to-XX-ones

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, nonusnomeni said:

https://www.quora.com/Can-XY-chromosomes-change-to-XX-ones

Except XY and XX are literally not the definition of gender? Try looking in a dictionary?

 

Edit: actually, I'll do you a solid and just get the definitions for you:

 

Oxford Dictionary: Either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.

Merriam-Webster: the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

Collins Dictionary: Gender is the state of being male or female in relation to the social and cultural roles that are considered appropriate for men and women. You can use gender to refer to one of a range of identities that includes female, male, a combination of both, and neither.

[Kendo 2]

Ah, a discussion about gender. Let the intersectional Leftist butthurt begin.

[KoolHndLuke]

23 minutes ago, Kendo 2 said:

Ah, a discussion about gender. Let the intersectional Leftist butthurt begin.

Back in the old days people used simple meshes and textures for their slutty raider outfits!

 

I'm still trying to figure out how you did your raider dolls where you managed to zap or hide parts of the mesh around your textures. At least that's what it seems like you did. Can't work them in BodySlide because it loses the nif properties when I load it in. But, I admit it's something akin to genius since your's are the only meshes from any game that I have seen this done without BS.

[FauxFurry]

7 hours ago, Freyadiin said:

Except XY and XX are literally not the definition of gender? Try looking in a dictionary?

 

Edit: actually, I'll do you a solid and just get the definitions for you:

 

Oxford Dictionary: Either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.

Merriam-Webster: the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

Collins Dictionary: Gender is the state of being male or female in relation to the social and cultural roles that are considered appropriate for men and women. You can use gender to refer to one of a range of identities that includes female, male, a combination of both, and neither.

There are unfortunately a large number of people on the more extreme part of the Left who believe that sex is a social construct rather than gender alone, a misconception which caused gender-critical Feminist Miranda Yardley to be arrested and charged with transphobia simply for stating the fact that she is biologically male. Thankfully, the case was thrown out but it should have never come to that in the first place.

 

[FauxFurry]

12 minutes ago, Alkpaz said:

That is the question FauxFurry, is it nature or nurture? Why, I think it may be nurture is transgender individuals feel they are in the wrong gender/sex and aim to correct that. Are transgender people gay/straight is the other question, because I have heard of transgender individuals in same-sex relationships, and some in hetero relationships as it pertains to the sex/gender they were born to.  To suggest that gender and the idea of gender is a "Leftist" ideology and should not be considered by people on the "Right" does seem a bit short sighted. It's much like my own situation, I enjoy seeing pornography featuring transgender individuals, does that make me bisexual, gay, or straight? Also, just because I agree with some idea does not make me automatically a "Righty" or a "Lefty", I don't feel people in "general" fit into nice little boxes. If I were to assign myself some sort of political affiliation, I would tick the moderate or independent box (which is very very broad term). I try to stay "in the middle", sometimes I do sway.

Sadly, there is no 'Back in My Day' experience to draw upon for some golden age in which people were not pointlessly drawn into a Left-Right dichotomy. It is true that other political positions were considered in the public discourse and there were other viable political parties but that is well before my time.