Skyrim Utility Mod (LE)

[annanymus]

8 hours ago, KalBreen said:

The error message also happens for the updated Sexlab 1.63 which is no longer a beta version

Yes. I'm using the 1.63 version, but the message is the same. It wants 1.62.

[Inte]

On 12/2/2021 at 7:21 AM, KalBreen said:

The error message also happens for the updated Sexlab 1.63 which is no longer a beta version

 

On 12/2/2021 at 3:44 PM, annanymus said:

Yes. I'm using the 1.63 version, but the message is the same. It wants 1.62.

I need to see what SUM sees, not what SL displays in it's MCM. 

See bellow for my SUM 'System' page. I need that showing the new SL version number. 

Spoiler

 

[Garthis]

I am getting the same thing but it seems like the menu is showing everything is ok despite something definitely failing to load.

[Toxic.S.Kamasami]

@Garthis hmm lol , last time I "try" this mod I encountered SUM untested issue just like you , and uninstall this thing for a long time , it's 1 year ago . This time , when I want to "re-try" this mod I still hear ppl talking about this , why... 

Edited December 7, 2021 by Toxic.S.Kamasami

[Garthis]

7 hours ago, Toxic.S.Kamasami said:

@Garthis hmm lol , last time I "try" this mod I encountered SUM untested issue just like you , and uninstall this thing for a long time , it's 1 year ago . This time , when I want to "re-try" this mod I still hear ppl talking about this , why... 

Specifically I need this mod to run another mod, Devious Device Equip which I need for a different mod all together which is the actual mod I want to keep.

[Toxic.S.Kamasami]

43 minutes ago, Garthis said:

Specifically I need this mod to run another mod, Devious Device Equip which I need for a different mod all together which is the actual mod I want to keep.

hmm , personally I think I want this because author said it can save your mcm and transfer inventory iirc , that's all I want when the first time I saw this mod but after a while stuck in the bug like you've met , I uninstalled this because it's not worth for all the trouble (maybe it's fine even with that small bug if that bug is harmless , but well , better safe than sorry)

Edited December 7, 2021 by Toxic.S.Kamasami

[Inte]

All SE users should re-download SUM SE 2.33.1 as I previously uploaded the wrong .esm for SE. 

[annanymus]

Thanks for all the help! I updated SUM and POP, and both seem happier now. Funny story... POP can't find DDe version number, and SUM was hanging on SkyUI version. Turns out, my SkyUI was malfunctioning. Now off to troubleshoot DCL.

[Skyrimdude]

 

I'm getting this error despite installing and activating Papyrus Util Version 3.3 and the MCM says I have version 3.2 when I can absolutely confirm this is not the case as I just went and re-downloaded 3.3 to double check and it still believes I'm using 3.2

[Nymra]

3 minutes ago, Skyrimdude said:

 

I'm getting this error despite installing and activating Papyrus Util Version 3.3 and the MCM says I have version 3.2 when I can absolutely confirm this is not the case as I just went and re-downloaded 3.3 to double check and it still believes I'm using 3.2

 

did you make sure no mod overwrites your papyrus install? check in conflicts and double check that. some mods like to do that or just move papy3.3 at the end of your left pane (file order) to make sure its not that. 

[Skyrimdude]

3 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

did you make sure no mod overwrites your papyrus install? check in conflicts and double check that. some mods like to do that or just move papy3.3 at the end of your left pane (file order) to make sure its not that. 

 

Thanks for the tip here. It turned out I had sexlab just below papyrus util and it was overwriting parts of it. I have now moved papyrus below sexlab in the left file pane and it registers fine.

[worik]

8 hours ago, Skyrimdude said:

Thanks for the tip here. It turned out I had sexlab just below papyrus util and it was overwriting parts of it. I have now moved papyrus below sexlab in the left file pane and it registers fine.

MO user?

In that case you better remember to stick PapyrusUtil down at the bottom of your left pane. SexLab isn't the only mod that comes with an embeded (and outdated) PapyrusUtil

That way you spare yourself many needless worries

[shiagwen]

On 11/8/2021 at 7:21 AM, Inte said:

 

 

You can customize what food is dropped as well. 

In my previous post you can follow the link to instructions on how to edit the POP food list, but also you can specify a single food item to drop. 

 

1. In SUM form lists change the 'Folder Path' to 'xpopForms', that will switch the folder to the POP forms folder.

  Hide contents

 

2. Select the xpopForms.json. 

  Hide contents

 

3. Select the POP food list you are using, the default is 'FoodServed'.

  Hide contents

 

4. Scroll down to the food items in the list. In this example the bread is at index No. 2. 

  Hide contents

 

5. Go to POP 'Cell' page and after the food list you are using add that previous index, in this example 2. 

  Hide contents

 

 

 

Now, only the bread will drop in the cell. The same can be done for the drinks. 

You think that this is beter than the drop list you had before ?  you think that this works ? no it does not, because the lists are not 3 but 0. however, i cant tell you more without being baanned from forum, you cant imagine any superlative that reaches this.  you really should find a way into some kind of easy thinking, if that is possinble, i doubt it, and think about how you can make it that anybody understands it and can use it other than you.  you can keep it for you but there is no need to public it, because no public understands anything from that.

[annanymus]

8 hours ago, shiagwen said:

You think that this is beter than the drop list you had before ?  you think that this works ? no it does not, because the lists are not 3 but 0. however, i cant tell you more without being baanned from forum, you cant imagine any superlative that reaches this.  you really should find a way into some kind of easy thinking, if that is possinble, i doubt it, and think about how you can make it that anybody understands it and can use it other than you.  you can keep it for you but there is no need to public it, because no public understands anything from that.

Dude, that was harsh. If changing food is too hard, stick with the default. Also, there are pictures. Follow them.

[shiagwen]

5 minutes ago, annanymus said:

Dude, that was harsh. If changing food is too hard, stick with the default. Also, there are pictures. Follow them.

Dude the pictures are  wrong. there is something left. thats why i was so embarrassed.  the older versons of pop were so much bettter to handle., sumit is impssible.

[Inte]

@shiagwen,

First, your posts contain nothing of value. Just saying that ‘the mod does not work’, without providing some screenshots to support your claim, is just wasting my time. The only reason I’m even answering your post now, is because, long ago in a magic realm, you had some good suggestions. 
You want to know how to make a useful support post take a look at @Skyrimdude’s post above.  

 

19 hours ago, shiagwen said:

You think that this is beter than the drop list you had before ? 

Yes, way better. 
The list customizing alone, makes it worth it.
Now, if you meant, is the new system easier to use than before? Then no, it is not. But, neither is a smartphone easier to use when comparing it to a rotary phone, it’s progress... get with it.

 

Semi-related rant about phones,

Spoiler

My very first phone was a Motorola V3. I loved that phone, especially how I could slam it shut on some unsolicited callers. Do I love my current Sony Xperia smartphone, despite arguably being the best smartphone available? No. Will I go back to a V3? Not in a million years. The stuff I can do now with my Sony would seem like magic to the V3.  

 

19 hours ago, shiagwen said:

you think that this works ?

Yes it does, quite well actually. 

 

19 hours ago, shiagwen said:

because the lists are not 3 but 0.

What does that even mean? What lists are not 3 but 0? Screenshot? 

 

19 hours ago, shiagwen said:

and think about how you can make it that anybody understands it and can use it other than you.

Well, I am open to suggestions. If you can design an UI with the available tools (SkyUI, PapyrusUtil) that will keep all of the current features, but make it so anybody can easily understand it, I’m all ears... or eyes, as it were.  

 

19 hours ago, shiagwen said:

you can keep it for you but there is no need to public it, because no public understands anything from that.

You got it backwards. 
I don’t mod for the public and then play it myself; I mod for myself and then I let the public play it as well.
Also, just because you do not understand it, does not mean the public will not understand it.

 

11 hours ago, shiagwen said:

the older versons of pop were so much bettter to handle.

So was a flip phone. 

 

11 hours ago, shiagwen said:

sumit is impssible.

That’s what a caveman would say about a smartphone. 

 

 

Bottom line, if you want help you have to meet me half way. Also, saying things like ‘lists are not 3 but 0' does not help and will just make me ignore your post. 
Make sure you’re using the latest versions of my mods and if you think my screenshots are wrong (or do not match what you see in your own game), provide your own. 

[Woreg]

Hello, this is a Google translation.
first I had Skyrim Utility Mod v. 2.30.5. this version has problems with Sexlab Framework 1.63 reports errors every time the game is loaded. Everything else that is installed with me is ok.
with the new SUM v 2.33.1 no bug because of the Sexlab framework. But there are several error messages DDe and Pop. can you fix that, please?

[Delite]

Will you make UIE Patch for the 2.33.1 version of SUM?

Edited December 15, 2021 by Delite

[Herowynne]

6 hours ago, Delite said:

Will you make UIE Patch for the 2.33.1 version of SUM?

SUM now has a FOMOD installer with an option for the UIE patch.

 

In other words, SUM now has a single all-in-one download.

[DonQuiWho]

23 hours ago, Herowynne said:

SUM now has a FOMOD installer with an option for the UIE patch.

 

In other words, SUM now has a single all-in-one download.

 

I'm still using 2-30-5 (and the quivalent POP and DDe mods)  

 

I am now getting intermittent, but increasingly frequent CTDs on startup.  Last line of log is always    [date -time]  text

 

 

[12/16/2021 - 04:23:22PM] [sum].:Debug:.GotMod():-> [CheckForMods()] -> [SkyUI.esp] - not found!

 

 

As the game plugin is ...

 

SkyUI_SE.esp 

 

... that may not be too surprising!  LOL   And, yes, I have the SUM SE version installed ?

 

 

(FWIW, there's now also an unattached instance appearing in Saves, referring to 

• SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias: refid=FORMIDX:000000 (000002198c576020)   )

 

Can't see this issue mentioned in the thread, or your SE updates notes, other than the odd comment about the UIE patch, but most of that refers to the LE versions

 

So, please, is this fixed in SSE SUM 2-33-1 ?

 

If it is, I'll chance updating the trio of mods once again.  If not, is there any chance of a patch ....for the patch?

 

TIA for any help you can give

 

 

[Herowynne]

22 minutes ago, DonQuiWho said:

line of log is always    [date -time]  text

 

[12/16/2021 - 04:23:22PM] [sum].:Debug:.GotMod():-> [CheckForMods()] -> [SkyUI.esp] - not found!

 

As the game plugin is ...

 

SkyUI_SE.esp 

 

... that may not be too surprising!  LOL   And, yes, I have the SUM SE version installed ?

 

That is expected, and is not a concern. SUM checks for both LE SkyUI.esp and SE SkyUI_SE.esp.

 

For example, here is the relevant line of code from iSUmMain.psc. In this line of code, SUM recognizes that SkyUI is installed if either the LE SkyUI.esp or the SE SkyUI_SE.esp file is present.

 

bSKI = (iSUmUtil.GotMod("CheckForMods()", "SkyUI.esp") || iSUmUtil.GotMod("CheckForMods()", "SkyUI_SE.esp"))

 

[Herowynne]

27 minutes ago, DonQuiWho said:

FWIW, there's now also an unattached instance appearing in Saves, referring to 

• SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias: refid=FORMIDX:000000 (000002198c576020) 

Can't see this issue mentioned in the thread, or your SE updates notes

 

I'm not familiar with this issue. I did not make any changes in the SE version for this.

[Herowynne]

55 minutes ago, DonQuiWho said:

your SE updates notes

 

Thanks for the reminder! I need to update the SE release notes for the new versions. There are no surprises - I just made the same changes as for previous conversions.

 

EDIT: Done.

Edited December 16, 2021 by Herowynne

[Inte]

On 12/14/2021 at 11:46 AM, Woreg said:

But there are several error messages DDe and Pop. can you fix that, please?

You'll have to tell me what error messages you are getting exactly (I need a screenshot showing them).

[Inte]

15 hours ago, DonQuiWho said:

(FWIW, there's now also an unattached instance appearing in Saves, referring to 

• SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias: refid=FORMIDX:000000 (000002198c576020)   )

No idea what that is. I would need the whole log and nothing but. 

 

15 hours ago, DonQuiWho said:

I have the SUM SE version installed

You switched to SSE? You... you traitor. 

 

But seriously, how do you like SE vs. LE?