mod [mod] RimJobWorld

*Ed86* · February 4, 2019

54 minutes ago, red3dred said:

A shame you folks are afraid of doing so, the mod was going swell until then and nobody pointed that flaw out. Welp, since this keeps changing towards a downhill spiral of "Lets fuck everything but humans", or even worse now, "lets fuck nothing at all", then i'll stick to a previous version for a while, while these things are figured out. I don't like the current direction of the project but i guess having some direction is better than having the mod be dead in the water as was with SHS.

And this is what i mean. I get that fixing and new features are neat, but if sex between pawns is the last priority, then i'm confused. Don't mind me though, i'm just a weird person that finds that hookups between pawns should be natural without whoring if they like each-other, and that whoring should be a "The other way around" mechanic. Though, i'm sure Ed will disregard my comment and say something along the lines of "implement this yourself if you want it".

Sigh.... I've been reading a ton of hostility between the current devs and the users, and that only means the project isn't RJW anymore. Whether this was justified or not, and in some cases i have to agree to ED, i've personally lost interest in the project and its current conception slipping further and further away from a normal adult mod.

For now, i'll just ask this: If you disable zoo, necro, and rapes; what events from this mod happen in a colony? Because general consensus seems to be only masturbation and the occasional cargo pods with genitals.

Anyhow, thanks for the updates, i appreciated a bunch of the new features, i'm just not okay with the current turns of events. Guess i'll stick to something like 1.9.1.

this mod never had pedophilia and never will

Wait... i thought #user wanted more new features like support for psychology and other shit with lots of traits with watered down modifiers (so noone would be able to test and figure out how everything works). ED says you should complain a lot less, #user wanted these features - Zaltys implemented them.... so if you want something changed communicate with Zaltys in an appropriate(polite) way.

"implement this yourself if you want it"

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what is "normal" "adult" mod?

i think combat rapes, zoo rape will happen coz code lacks many checks(manhunter), mechanoid rape will happen(afaik only fingering as "generally established features" doesnt account genderless mechs), consensual sex with couples, nymphs, cargo drops with peg dicks or flat chests

red3dred · February 4, 2019

Welp, Ed took their time to write a good response with no mean words, guess i'll have to respond equally... lets see...

1 hour ago, Ed86 said:

this mod never had pedophilia and never will

18 year olds, yea, maybe you're right, but i'm not sure if the 500 year old sergal with 0.3% sex-drive agrees. Also, you say that, but the "free sex age" is a value that can go all the way down to 0, so technically, it always had it. It just came down to the user. I have mine set to the legal age in my country, but the game still sometimes completely overrides that value out of its own will (Like if a kid has the nympho trait, which they seem to be able to be born with? Might be CSL fucking up though). Still, <5% sex need for a 20-yo pawn

1 hour ago, Ed86 said:

Wait... i thought #user wanted more new features like support for psychology and other shit with lots of traits with watered down modifiers (so noone would be able to test and figure out how everything works). ED says you should complain a lot less, #user wanted these features - Zaltys implemented them.... so if you want something changed communicate with Zaltys in an appropriate(polite) way.

"implement this yourself if you want it"

That is more like what i expected. I never asked for support, i know its a pain in the ass and a slippery-slope, to support a mod, because the more you support, the more mods people will ask for support, and its not exactly easy to begin with, because each coder makes their own spaghetti code based on RW's already spaghetti code.

Do remember, generalizing is like assuming, it still makes a ass of you and me. And quite the ass, in that whole phrase.

1 hour ago, Ed86 said:

what is "normal" "adult" mod?

I'd define a "normal" or "standard" adult mod just one that has sex, between humans, with their genitals. Ignoring which genders are involved.

As is, we have a lot of sex in a lot of weird ways, but all the normal stuff is relegated entirely to couples. Whores almost do their job, but they're extremely picky and rarely actually succeed. I had Wild-mode enabled by accident once, and i noticed that the pawns just went hooking up on their own, a behaviour i found way more natural. Y'know, casual sex is a thing, and in a "each man by themselves" colony in the middle of bum-fuck outer-space, a bunch of horny humanoids wouldn't prioritize fucking the dead or the colony livestock. (This is not considering monster-girls or the undead bimbos...)

1 hour ago, Ed86 said:

i think combat rapes, zoo rape will happen coz code lacks many checks(manhunter), mechanoid rape will happen(afaik only fingering as "generally established features" doesnt account genderless mechs), consensual sex with couples, nymphs, cargo drops with peg dicks or flat chests

That uh.... begs some questions, we have the option to "enable mechanoid pregnancies" but they can't have sex? Consensual sex with couples is vanilla, we only really get the mess effect, sound effect and social thought. Event wise, its not a new thing. Also, many users i've talked to expressed to be displeased with the way Nymphs just invade beds and that counts as consensual. Straight pawns getting to do forced blowjobs during the night to the nymphomaniac gay spider doesn't exactly please them, but this seems okay in the mod.

I think that's all? Okay.

eggsalad · February 4, 2019

3 hours ago, eggsalad said:

Well, on a hunch, I tried disabling Combat Extended, and sure enough, hololock recipe shows up again (didn't have anything to do with the RefiningStub thing, by the way). Still trying to figure out why CE is messing with recipes from other mods and how to resolve it. Load order doesn't seem to matter.

SamejimaMamimi08 · February 4, 2019

First let me say I love this mod! Thank you to all who work on it. I have a couple of questions about whoring--I'm wondering if there is a list of things that impact proposition attempt and success rate--do whores with not much work to do attempt hookups more often? Do only horny+ npcs accept? etc.

I read earlier in the thread that privacy, whore bedroom quality, beauty/greedy trait of whore all impact price. Does Sexual ability impact it too? Seems logical that really skilled whores with great body parts would satisfy the customer more and command a higher price over an old whore with gaping everything and low manipulation

I am running the test version uploaded a few days ago--it says that the male whores now earn comparable to female--I did some testing and my beautiful female whore makes ~120s frequently and my pretty male whore makes only about ~70, so maybe beautiful is just that much better than pretty? If I can find a beautiful male I will test and see

Also just wanted to share this cause I found it funny--when the whore services the trader the muffalo come to watch https://imgur.com/a/Ntg3Vsl

Edit: Also not sure if it's a known bug or not, but when I have a pawn that is incapacitated by anaesthetic for surgery or catatonic breakdown, sometiomes other pawns will get stuck attempting to rape them, they will stand there in place and the attempting to rape message gets spammed over and over, but they never follow through (when you try to force rape a catatonic pawn, it says they are not healthy enough, so that seems to be clearly where the issue is).

Recruit46 · February 4, 2019

Found few bugs on experimental version.

First - I noticed that whore's thoughts about their job completely disappear almost instantly. I just see "recentful whore" in the needs tab and in a few ingame hours (and three failed hook-up attempts) there is nothing at all. Nothing in error log. Should it be this way?

Second - Got a zoofile female pawn designated as breeder and few male animals. Whenever they try to breed, the error appears at the end. Checked what I could - the only thing that seems to go wrong is sex not being registered in pawns social interactions list and error log appearing each time. Other things seem to work - satisfaction, pregnancy broken body stages. This is what I got in the log (few attempts were made and this thing turned out to be surprisingly long).

Spoiler

Exception filling tab RimWorld.ITab_Pawn_Social: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at Verse.PlayLogEntry_Interaction.ToGameStringFromPOV_Worker (Verse.Thing pov, Boolean forceLog) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.LogEntry.ToGameStringFromPOV (Verse.Thing pov, Boolean forceLog) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at RimWorld.InteractionCardUtility.DrawInteractionsLog (Rect rect, Verse.Pawn pawn, System.Collections.Generic.List`1 entries, Int32 maxEntries) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at RimWorld.SocialCardUtility.DrawSocialCard (Rect rect, Verse.Pawn pawn) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at RimWorld.ITab_Pawn_Social.FillTab () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Verse.InspectTabBase+<DoTabGUI>c__AnonStorey0.<>m__0 () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
Verse.Log:Error(String, Boolean)
Verse.Log:ErrorOnce(String, Int32, Boolean)
Verse.<DoTabGUI>c__AnonStorey0:<>m__0()
Verse.ImmediateWindow:DoWindowContents(Rect)
Verse.<WindowOnGUI>c__AnonStorey0:<>m__0(Int32)
UnityEngine.GUI:CallWindowDelegate(WindowFunction, Int32, Int32, GUISkin, Int32, Single, Single, GUIStyle)