thirtyeight Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I haven't played Rimworld since .18 but am looking to get back into it. I'm really glad to see this mod still being worked on, but I had some zoophilia questions I don't think I've seen answered yet. Â 1. Can male colonists still be raped by female animals? If this occurs but is uncommon, how can I make it more common? 2. If rape is disabled, is it still possible for zoophilic acts to occur? 3. I read earlier that animals can't initiate sex with a colonist, only colonists can invite them to their bed. Is this for programming reasons? 4. If human-animal impregnation is enabled and the non-human parent is not an insect or mech, will the children be born loyal to the colony or hostile? Â Thank you for reading this Link to comment
weirn Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 7 hours ago, thirtyeight said: I haven't played Rimworld since .18 but am looking to get back into it. I'm really glad to see this mod still being worked on, but I had some zoophilia questions I don't think I've seen answered yet.  1. Can male colonists still be raped by female animals? If this occurs but is uncommon, how can I make it more common? 2. If rape is disabled, is it still possible for zoophilic acts to occur? 3. I read earlier that animals can't initiate sex with a colonist, only colonists can invite them to their bed. Is this for programming reasons? 4. If human-animal impregnation is enabled and the non-human parent is not an insect or mech, will the children be born loyal to the colony or hostile?  Thank you for reading this Kinda, if the animal is a hermaphrodite the yes about as frequently as a male animal otherwise it's extremely unlikely. Only manhunter females can do this on a downed colonist otherwise not much can happen to encourage female animals. Yes as you stated in question three colonists can invite animals to their bed. If you enable breeding between an animal and a colonist the animal usually rapes quite a bit since their AI is generally simpler so I imagine that animals would be trying to initiate consensual sex a lot since their behavior is determined by a roll, roughly every hour or so. They are born loyal to the colony. Link to comment
thirtyeight Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Thank you very much! Link to comment
Zaltys Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 11 hours ago, thirtyeight said: 1. Can male colonists still be raped by female animals? If this occurs but is uncommon, how can I make it more common? 2. If rape is disabled, is it still possible for zoophilic acts to occur? 3. I read earlier that animals can't initiate sex with a colonist, only colonists can invite them to their bed. Is this for programming reasons? 4. If human-animal impregnation is enabled and the non-human parent is not an insect or mech, will the children be born loyal to the colony or hostile? Animals (females included) are supposed to be able to rape comfort prisoners if that setting is enabled, but I just noticed that it's not triggering. Will get that fixed. (It should be noted that forced sex acts that can be initiated by female animals are rather limited.) EDIT: And fixed. Dunno if it'll make it to the next update. Yes. Zoophilia and breed jobs are separate from rape, and don't check that option. RJW animals are capable of running away or even attacking if they don't 'consent'. There's simply no job for that at the moment. It'd be relatively easy to add something like a 'bonded animal presenting to the owner', I might get around to implementing that one day. Depends on the faction of the mother. If, for instance, a colonist impregnates a wild animal then the child will be born in the wild, and neutral. (If your settings allow animals to give birth to humans, their chance of survival in the wild is... slim.) Link to comment
thirtyeight Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zaltys said: Animals (females included) are supposed to be able to use comfort prisoners if that setting is enabled, but I just noticed that it's not triggering. Will get that fixed. Yes. Zoophilia and breed jobs are separate from rape, and don't check that option. RJW animals are capable of running away or even attacking if they don't 'consent'.  There's simply no job for that at the moment. It'd be relatively easy to add something like a 'bonded animal presenting to the owner', I might get around to implementing that one day.  Depends on the faction of the mother. If, for instance, a colonist impregnates a wild animal then the child will be born in the wild, and neutral. Thank you as well. Link to comment
Ed86 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I dont exactly understand what is the point of CP rape for animals, imo that option shouldnt exist, there is dedicated breeding option, and how does animal know who is CP? Like... arent everyone of those 2 legged are the same?  ... oh.. right its useless since it doesnt work, should remove it in next patch  ... of wait it fixed in merge... hm............. approve or not........ Link to comment
Zaltys Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Ed86 said: I dont exactly understand what is the point of CP rape for animals, imo that option shouldnt exist, there is dedicated breeding option Breeding is only available to male animals of the players' faction. It also requires the player to manually designate the animals.  Whereas CP rape by animals is available to all (if the setting is enabled), including animals from other factions.  1 hour ago, Ed86 said: and how does animal know who is CP? Like... arent everyone of those 2 legged are the same? The same way they know who's designated for breeding. In other words, it doesn't make any more or less sense than the breeding designation. Link to comment
Recruit46 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 On 2/20/2019 at 3:03 AM, Zaltys said: Thanks. Which mod are you using (Individuality, Psychology, or Rational Romance)Â to determine the sexuality? Rational Romance. Link to comment
Ed86 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Zaltys said: Breeding is only available to male animals of the players' faction. It also requires the player to manually designate the animals.  Whereas CP rape by animals is available to all (if the setting is enabled), including animals from other factions.  The same way they know who's designated for breeding. In other words, it doesn't make any more or less sense than the breeding designation. does quirks work for animals? i dont see icon  yes but in case of designating - you are building sort of "farm" and in case of cp ... its just ... because, so any animal on map can come and rape Link to comment
Zaltys Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, Ed86 said: does quirks work for animals? i dont see icon Animals are incapable of whoring, and can currently only get three quirks: Messy, Fertile, and Infertile. So I felt that there's not enough content to warrant adding the icon for animals yet, especially when two of the quirks are shown in the Fertility stat:  They also lack the Bio tab, so I'd need to find an another place for the icon (maybe in Training tab, since that's unique to animals). I can enable it if you think it's needed. Link to comment
Zaltys Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Ed86 said: and in case of cp ... its just ... because, so any animal on map can come and rape It's currently disabled for wild animals, and colony animals can't get out of their designated zones. Though come to think about it, I should add a distance check to it. Doesn't make much sense that some trader's muffalo would take a trip to a prison on the other side of the base, just to rape a CP.  EDIT: Added. Animals now only consider targets they can actually see. So no opening doors, or long trips. This'll obviously make it occur far less, unless the player puts animal beds in prison barracks, etc. Link to comment
xaenus Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Any chance of adding the ability to rape even when your colonists have a spouse or lover? I don't think Wild mode lifts the restrictions. Having my colonists get rid of their rut when they go out raiding would be nice. Link to comment
Zaltys Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, xaenus said: Having my colonists get rid of their rut when they go out raiding would be nice. That check is actually skipped if the pawns are on different maps. If you really want to, you can enable it by sending the spouse on a trading mission.. Link to comment
xaenus Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Zaltys said: That check is actually skipped if the pawns are on different maps. If you really want to, you can enable it by sending the spouse on a trading mission.. Is there a way to get rid of that restriction completely through editing the files? Link to comment
Ed86 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1.9.6 Zaltys: [CORE] Added manifest for Mod Manager. [CORE] Added more support for the sexuality tracker. [CORE] Moved some things to new SexUtility class, xxx was getting too cluttered. [CORE] Added a new method for scaling alien age to human age. This makes it easier to fix races that have broken lifespans in their racedefs. [FIX] Pawn sexuality icon was overlapping the icon from Individuality mod during pawn generation. Moved it a bit. Please leave feedback if it still overlaps with mod-added stuff. [FIX] Enabled whore price checking during pawn generation. [FIX] Female masturbation wasn't generating fluids. [FIX] Clarified some of the setting tooltip texts. [FIX] Added text fixes to fellatio, for species that have a beak.. [BALANCE] Permanent disfiguring injuries (such as scars) lower the whore price. [BALANCE] Rapist trait gain now occurs slightly slower on average. [FEATURE] Pawns now have a chance of cleaning up after themselves when they've done masturbating. Affected by traits: higher probability for Industrious/Hard Worker, lower for Lazy/Slothful/Depressive. Pawns who are incapable of Cleaning never do it. Also added the same cleaning check for whoring (some whores will clean after the customer, some expect others to do it.) [FEATURE] Added a few pawn-specific quirks such as foot fetish, increased fertility, teratophilia (attraction to monsters/disfigured), and endytophilia (clothed sex). Quirks have minor effects, and cover fetishes and paraphilias that don't have large enough impact on the gameplay to be implemented as actual traits. You can check if your pawns have any quirks by using the new icon in the Bio-tab, the effects are listed in the tooltip. Some quirks are also available to animals. [FEATURE] Added glow to the icon, which shows up if the pawn has quirks. For convenience, so you can tell at a glance when rerolling and checking enemies. (Current icons are placeholders, but work well enough for now.) [FEATURE] Added a new job that allows pawns to find a secluded spot for a quick fap if frustrated. (...or not so secluded if they have the Exhibitionist quirk). The job is available to everyone, including visitors and even idle enemies. This should allow most pawns to keep frustration in check while away from home, etc. [COMPATIBILITY] Rimworld of Magic - shapeshifted/polymorphed pawns should now be able to have sex soon after transformation. [COMPATIBILITY] Added conditionals to the trait patches, they should now work with mods that alter traits. [COMPATIBILITY] Lord of the Rims: The Third Age - genitalia are working now, but the mod removes other defs that RJW needs and may not be fully compatible. Note: Requires new save. Sorry about that. The good news is that the groundwork is largely done, so this shouldn't happen again anytime soon.  Ed86: disabled ability to set designators for comfortprisoner raping and bestiality for colonists and animals comfort raping and bestiality designators can be turned on for prisoners and slaves from simple slavery nymphs will consider sexing with their partner(if they have one) before going on everyone else added options to spawn futa nymphs, natives, spacers added option to spawn genderless pawns as futas changed descriptions to dna inheritance changed all that pos code from patch pregnancy, to use either rjw pregnancies or vanilla shit code added animal-animal pregnancies(handled through rjw bestiality) added filter, so you shouldnt get notifications about non player faction pregnancies added Restraints(no one has suppiled decent name) hediff, insects will restrain non same faction pawn after egging them, easily removed with any medicine changed incubator to quirk, incubator naw affect only egg pregnancy added breeder quirk - same as incubator but for non eggs, needs only 10 births for humans or 20 for animals   3 Link to comment
Gamaroguar Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Right on time! Just yesterday, I decided all the mods I want are updated, finished editing the mods I will use, updated my xml mods, updated some other mods to 1.0, sorted the whole mod list with 300+ mods, and made sure the game was not throwing errors and the world could be generated. Now i can finally start playing 1.0. Â I still don't like the clutter in the health tab, with those fictitious hediffs, i mean, describing a pawn should not be considered a hediff, but i guess is the easiest way to do it. Thank you for keeping this alive. 1 Link to comment
GreatFez Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Thanks for the update.  I just started a new colony to try it out, and was browsing through the new mod settings. Along the way I noticed, the 'STDs from environment' option, and realized I don't think I've ever seen a pawn pick up an STD, across maybe four different colonies and a dozen or more in-game years. Is that setting functional? Maybe I'm just keeping the colony too clean. Link to comment
Ed86 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 1.9.6a fix for pregnancy   RIP Link to comment
Zaltys Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, GreatFez said: I just started a new colony to try it out, and was browsing through the new mod settings. Along the way I noticed, the 'STDs from environment' option, and realized I don't think I've ever seen a pawn pick up an STD, across maybe four different colonies and a dozen or more in-game years. Is that setting functional? Maybe I'm just keeping the colony too clean. No idea, to be honest. That's old code, haven't had time to dig deep into it. I just fixed some references to body-parts that no longer exist in 1.0 (forgot to mention that in update notes), maybe it works now. But chances are that there are other problems. Link to comment
Rosich Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Minimum age 18? And below does not change? No realism? Link to comment
SuperNovaX Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Anyone meet a problem that designators button missing? With a new game, when I choose a pawn, the only button I have is the "Enablehooking" button, the other two were there in 1.9.5 but right now they just gone. Have any idea with that? Link to comment
Zaltys Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 44 minutes ago, SuperNovaX said: Anyone meet a problem that designators button missing? With a new game, when I choose a pawn, the only button I have is the "Enablehooking" button, the other two were there in 1.9.5 but right now they just gone. Have any idea with that? Ed disabled them for non-prisoners, so no more targeted rape. Link to comment
dienow Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Quote disabled ability to set designators for comfortprisoner raping and bestiality for colonists and animals Wait, what? Why would you do this? This change strips away a huge part of the whole thing. This makes no sense. Â Why wouldn't I be able to designate any colonist I want to, whether normal, slave, or prisoner? Link to comment
Guest Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 hum... i have a error message when a pawn are selected : Spoiler Failed to find RimWorld.TraitDef named Enslaved. There are 205 defs of this type loaded. Verse.Log:Error(String, Boolean) Verse.DefDatabase`1:GetNamed(String, Boolean) RimWorld.TraitDef:Named(String) rjw.xxx:is_slave(Pawn) rjw.PawnDesignations:CanDesignateComfort(Pawn) rjw.Comfort:applicable(Pawn) rjw.RJWdesignations:DrawSubIcon(SubIcon) rjw.RJWdesignations:GizmoOnGUI(Vector2, Single) Verse.GizmoGridDrawer:DrawGizmoGrid(IEnumerable`1, Single, Gizmo&) RimWorld.InspectGizmoGrid:DrawInspectGizmoGridFor(IEnumerable`1, Gizmo&) RimWorld.MainTabWindow_Inspect:DrawInspectGizmos() RimWorld.InspectPaneUtility:ExtraOnGUI(IInspectPane) RimWorld.MainTabWindow_Inspect:ExtraOnGUI_Patch1(Object) Verse.WindowStack:WindowStackOnGUI() RimWorld.UIRoot_Play:UIRootOnGUI_Patch1(Object) Verse.Root:OnGUI() Â Â Link to comment
kamilfranke Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Is it planned to add more social interactions? For example, I had a couple in my colony, and the husband went to rape some other colonist for some reason, and even tho his wife saw that, she didn't mind. Link to comment
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