Devious Devices - Laura's Bondage Shop (16-aug-2025) v3.55 LE & SE

[Taki17]

27 minutes ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

or that I'll connect it wrong.

Don't worry about that. If as a child, you had the toy where you had to match the shapes with the appropriate holes, you were trained to do this since day 1.

[naaitsab]

Hardware these days is like lego, everyone with some patience can build a standard PC  Component compatibility can be a thing, if you go for a decent brand PSU at 550W you can power almost any modern single GPU rig with a regular CPU. Not things like i9 with a 2080TI but I think most people that have that stuff know what they are doing or pay somebody else to do it

 

As for the fans, use something soft like a microfiber cloth to stop the fans one at a time until the sound is gone. It can hurt if you just stick you fingers in them and stopping them with a  "bang" is not advisable so press softly against the hub of the fan until it stops.

 

And I would advice against lubricating bearings yourself, most fans use very cheap and flimsy bearings not designed for opening or even maintenance at all. And getting the suitable lubricant should be about the same price as a new fan. With the added bonus of not destroying your fan or getting lubricant inside your PC when it spins up.

[pappana]

6 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I don't have case fans I think. I had to search to find out what case fans are.

I only have 2 GPU fans, a CPU fan and a PSU fan.

case fans are the fans that is connected to the motherboard via cables(the fans that arent part of the gpu or the cpu) and sits usually at the front and back of the case, they blow out all the hot air that the cpu and gpu makes and blowing in cold air from outside the case. they are used for ventilation other wise the gpu and cpu would work overtime basically using hot air to cool a ghot gpu wich isnt ideal  :) most cases have atleast 2 of them, some have more

 

if its a laptop it usually have atleast one fan cooling everything wich would count as a case fan

[DayTri]

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That sounds to me like it have something to do with heat, but when it rattles it's always when I boot, never when the PC is already running.

 

if you worry about heat, you can download free software called OPEN HARDWARE MONITOR, it will tell you the heat of your CPU, GPU, etc as well as how much power they draw and their total usage and other nice things,

[Laura]

15 hours ago, worik said:

Anyway, connecting  a PSU the  wrong way should not be thaaat troublesome. They have shaped plugs that shouldn't fit where they don't belong, as long as you don't force them into a socket. It just an annoying task to do.

Get your camera, snap a picture of the data tag in the PSU or from the manual if you still have it somewhere around and take that to a trustworthy computer store  .

I was worried that I'd burn my house down if I put a 12V thingy in a 6V component. But I'm glad that that can't happen.

 

 

 

15 hours ago, Taki17 said:

Don't worry about that. If as a child, you had the toy where you had to match the shapes with the appropriate holes, you were trained to do this since day 1.

That makes it even worse if I do mess it up. ?

 

 

 

15 hours ago, naaitsab said:

Hardware these days is like lego, everyone with some patience can build a standard PC  Component compatibility can be a thing, if you go for a decent brand PSU at 550W you can power almost any modern single GPU rig with a regular CPU. Not things like i9 with a 2080TI but I think most people that have that stuff know what they are doing or pay somebody else to do it

 

As for the fans, use something soft like a microfiber cloth to stop the fans one at a time until the sound is gone. It can hurt if you just stick you fingers in them and stopping them with a  "bang" is not advisable so press softly against the hub of the fan until it stops.

 

And I would advice against lubricating bearings yourself, most fans use very cheap and flimsy bearings not designed for opening or even maintenance at all. And getting the suitable lubricant should be about the same price as a new fan. With the added bonus of not destroying your fan or getting lubricant inside your PC when it spins up.

Thanks for the tip. I can't reach the PSU fan because it's behind a screen. I can try that with the CPU fan though.

 

 

 

9 hours ago, pappana said:

case fans are the fans that is connected to the motherboard via cables(the fans that arent part of the gpu or the cpu) and sits usually at the front and back of the case, they blow out all the hot air that the cpu and gpu makes and blowing in cold air from outside the case. they are used for ventilation other wise the gpu and cpu would work overtime basically using hot air to cool a ghot gpu wich isnt ideal  :) most cases have atleast 2 of them, some have more

 

if its a laptop it usually have atleast one fan cooling everything wich would count as a case fan

I looked it up earlier, but I don't have those. My PC is just a regular Medion PC and I just slapped a new PSU and GPU in it.

 

 

 

7 hours ago, DayTri said:

if you worry about heat, you can download free software called OPEN HARDWARE MONITOR, it will tell you the heat of your CPU, GPU, etc as well as how much power they draw and their total usage and other nice things,

I used that before when I had heat issues. I just found out that case fans are a thing and not having them is probably why I have to keep the case open to keep it from overheating. ?

I also don't think case fans would fit because the case isn't big enough.

My PC is a mess, but this mess has been going strong for 6 years now.

[worik]

28 minutes ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I looked it up earlier, but I don't have those. My PC is just a regular Medion PC and I just slapped a new PSU and GPU in it.

Almost literally the same as ours. Common off-the-shelf from the random super market nearby.

[griffinpyros]

Hey, been away for a little while. Got caught up in the space game from '03, and she is a cruel mistress when it comes to time consumption. Anyway, obscure reference aside, I'm glad to see there's still movement happening here. Been poking around on LL, found a couple other mods I like, but sadly, only had a year of more of development then it was abandoned Eagerly awaiting the next chapter in LBS

[pappana]

6 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

 

Thanks for the tip. I can't reach the PSU fan because it's behind a screen. I can try that with the CPU fan though.

 

Screen? is it a laptop you have? 

6 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

 

I looked it up earlier, but I don't have those. My PC is just a regular Medion PC and I just slapped a new PSU and GPU in it.

 

you should look into getting some, it will help with ventilation to keep it form overheating  if the case came without fans and is really tiny you could just buy a regular office fan and put it right at the intake, its better than nothing atleast and will help a little

[Laura]

4 minutes ago, pappana said:

Screen? is it a laptop you have? 

A screen like this:

 

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https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1t5iQkXkoBKNjSZFEq6zrEVXa1/12038-Fan-Guard-12cm-Fan-Dust-Filter-Dustproof-Screen-PC-Computer-Case-Mesh-PC-Case-Fan.jpg

I think they're called fan screens.

 

4 minutes ago, pappana said:

you should look into getting some, it will help with ventilation to keep it form overheating  if the case came without fans and is really tiny you could just buy a regular office fan and put it right at the intake, its better than nothing atleast and will help a little

An office fan could help. Thanks for the tip.

[worik]

1 hour ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

An office fan could help. Thanks for the tip.

And remember to keep it clean from dust. The openings from the outside is the usual weekly/monthly routine

But if you're not afraid to open the case, do it and have a look at least nce a year. If you are careful a common hoover on a low setting is good enough for the job.

Dust can have a terrible effect on electronics and their intended heating/cooling ? ?️

[naaitsab]

8 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

Thanks for the tip. I can't reach the PSU fan because it's behind a screen. I can try that with the CPU fan though.

 

 

 

I looked it up earlier, but I don't have those. My PC is just a regular Medion PC and I just slapped a new PSU and GPU in it.

 

You can use something like a plastic straw to stop the fan in the PSU. Changing the pitch of the fan is most of the time more than enough to judge what fan is broken. 

 

And Medion if that's the same brand Medion that sells here in the Netherlands or Germany is of let's say "questionable" quality. So I could well be a dodgy cap that whines.  You could always see if there is a PC shop somewhere near. Most small shops have used gear in stock and can give you good advice if you have issues or want to change some things. I would stay far away from big name stores because they only sell pre-builds and aim for highest margins not what is best for the customer.

 

If you want more assistance feel free to send a DM.

[Laura]

18 hours ago, worik said:

And remember to keep it clean from dust. The openings from the outside is the usual weekly/monthly routine

But if you're not afraid to open the case, do it and have a look at least nce a year. If you are careful a common hoover on a low setting is good enough for the job.

Dust can have a terrible effect on electronics and their intended heating/cooling ? ?️

Yeah, I always keep it clean. I use a compressed air duster.

 

 

 

 

18 hours ago, naaitsab said:

You can use something like a plastic straw to stop the fan in the PSU. Changing the pitch of the fan is most of the time more than enough to judge what fan is broken. 

I'll do that.

 

18 hours ago, naaitsab said:

And Medion if that's the same brand Medion that sells here in the Netherlands or Germany is of let's say "questionable" quality. So I could well be a dodgy cap that whines.  You could always see if there is a PC shop somewhere near. Most small shops have used gear in stock and can give you good advice if you have issues or want to change some things. I would stay far away from big name stores because they only sell pre-builds and aim for highest margins not what is best for the customer.

I got it from Bol.com instead of Aldi, but it's still the same crap.

I did heard a lot of good things about Medion though. This noise is the only thing wrong with it after using it for about 6 years.

 

18 hours ago, naaitsab said:

If you want more assistance feel free to send a DM.

Thanks.

[Shenecek]

Hello all, 

 

I was hoping for some help. It appears that my game crashes each time i want to enter the Winking Skeever Inn in Solitude while on the quest to talk to Jade about getting someone kidnapped. This is what I get from the papyrus logs. Any help please?

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

[Laura]

4 minutes ago, Shenecek said:

Hello all, 

 

I was hoping for some help. It appears that my game crashes each time i want to enter the Winking Skeever Inn in Solitude while on the quest to talk to Jade about getting someone kidnapped. This is what I get from the papyrus logs. Any help please?

 

 

Papyrus.0.log 45.56 kB · 0 downloads

I haven't changed anything in the Winking Skeever so I don't think this is my mods fault.

I do see an FNIS error and a few DD errors, but I'm not sure if they're the cause.

 

Have you had crashes before?

Does your game run smoothly or do it have more issues?

Does FNIS give an error when you run it?

Can you share your Load Order?

[naaitsab]

5 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I'll do that.

 

I got it from Bol.com instead of Aldi, but it's still the same crap.

I did heard a lot of good things about Medion though. This noise is the only thing wrong with it after using it for about 6 years.

 

Thanks.

Ook een Nederlander?

 

Most Medion/Acer brand PC's don't last very long past their warranty time. But when they do they keep running most of the time. Bit of a lottery. As a hobby/sidejob I build and maintain PC's in the weekends. The quality of known brands (Asus, MSI, Gigabyte etc) is leagues ahead of those brands. As they mostly cheap out on the PSU and mobo's. But with most things, you get what you pay for and sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't.

[Laura]

15 hours ago, naaitsab said:

Ook een Nederlander?

Kan ik zelf ook niets aan doen.

 

15 hours ago, naaitsab said:

Most Medion/Acer brand PC's don't last very long past their warranty time. But when they do they keep running most of the time. Bit of a lottery. As a hobby/sidejob I build and maintain PC's in the weekends. The quality of known brands (Asus, MSI, Gigabyte etc) is leagues ahead of those brands. As they mostly cheap out on the PSU and mobo's. But with most things, you get what you pay for and sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't.

Seems like I'm one of the lucky ones. Mine has been going strong for quite a while, but I'm considering buying a new PC. I can clone the HDD and copy it to the new HDD right?

[worik]

1 hour ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I can clone the HDD and copy it to the new HDD right?

At least if you consider Skyrim, you can (and should) have a backup nearby. You can use that to migrate it to another PC.

Cook book:

Spoiler

We did:

• zip (7z) the whole of Skyrim
• zip (7z) our ModOrganizer folder (round about 11GB for Skyrim and 14GB for MO)
• copy that monthly/quarterly to an external disk (actually we have more than one to keep backups of important stuff)

After the switch of the PC it was basically just

• reinstall steam
• let it install Skyrim and the CK
• overwrite it with our backup (cleaned DLCs, scripts folder, etc .. too much wasted time to rebuild that in single steps, when a simple copy can do the job)
• copy the MO folder back where it belongs
• check and fix the paths for MO executables
• done ✅

 

[Laura]

1 hour ago, worik said:

At least if you consider Skyrim, you can (and should) have a backup nearby. You can use that to migrate it to another PC.

Cook book:

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We did:

• zip (7z) the whole of Skyrim
• zip (7z) our ModOrganizer folder (round about 11GB for Skyrim and 14GB for MO)
• copy that monthly/quarterly to an external disk (actually we have more than one to keep backups of important stuff)

After the switch of the PC it was basically just

• reinstall steam
• let it install Skyrim and the CK
• overwrite it with our backup (cleaned DLCs, scripts folder, etc .. too much wasted time to rebuild that in single steps, when a simple copy can do the job)
• copy the MO folder back where it belongs
• check and fix the paths for MO executables
• done ✅

 

I already regularly make backups. I get nervous around hardware, but I'm much better with software.

Thanks for the tips by the way.

[t.ara]

my pc is about 15 years old-lol?-it´s a well sorted system-I build up three different computers by using asus-boards, this is one of it:

(and there´s no need for modding and gaming to invest into more than that)

 

today you can get the board for about 100euro, used : asus p9 x79 , cpu pentium 3930 (i7), about 40-50 euro-ram i´d buy new and I would invest into a 6-time-ssd slot for front-access-i´d switch over to ssd and buy 1TB, maybe twice at once, create a CD-rom with clonezilla, install windows 7 or 10 and you then have a good working system-i use "be quiet" power-supplys-850w and one single asus 1080ti gpu with 3 ventilators, and you maybe invest into a cpu-cooling system with a big fan....this stuff is very quiet working-under skyrim, the fans rotate at the lower limit.

And if you want to invest into a nice computer-case, have a look at LIAN LI cases-it´s a nice case-system and you can later use it for newer computer-configurations as well. Important is a quality power-supply-and yes, from time to time it´s a good idea to clean dust from the fans away with hovercraft and a brush/pen...and don´t get too close with the hover-craft to the fans, so that they don´t overrotate and cause elecrtic-power into the computer-circuit as generators !!!

 

Depending, how your existing HDD is configured, you can clone it with clonezilla to a 1TB-SSD...afterwards you have to use a tiny software so to have acces also to the new space and make windows read the whole 1TB-volume then. CLONING meanst you can simply start with your work, where you have stopped on the HDD. CLONEZILLA is free and you only have to download it and burn it onto a CD-R. I have my copy beside my windows 7-ultimate-in the same box;-))

 

 

https://clonezilla.org/downloads.php

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Intel-Core-i7-3930K-CPU-3-2-GHz-12MB-6-Core-Prozessor-X79-SR0KY/352840034861?epid=115243572&hash=item5226e7aa2d:g:5sQAAOSwovNdvATt

https://www.ebay.de/itm/ASUS-P9X79-LGA-2011-Sockel-R-Intel-90-MIBHE0-G0AAY00Z-Motherboard/254423530778?epid=115888051&hash=item3b3cd2fd1a:g:0PAAAOSwZEtd0CQ-

https://www.mindfactory.de/Hersteller_Shops/be_quiet_Shop/Hardware/Netzteile+~+USVs+(PSU).html/referrer/category

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/1000GB-Samsung-860-Pro-2-5Zoll--6-4cm--SATA-6Gb-s-3D-MLC-NAND--MZ-76P1T_1225519.hthttps://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Icy-Dock-MB326SP-6x6-3cm-SATAI-III-SSD-SAS-MB326SP-B_1127311.htmlml

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/850-Watt-be-quiet--Dark-Power-Pro-11-Modular-80--Platinum_1002854.html

https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H0.Xasus+1080ti.TRS0&_nkw=asus+1080ti&_sacat=0

 

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Delock-Wechselrahmen-5-25-fuer-4-x-2-5-SATA-SAS-HDD-SSD-12-Gb-s_1314366.html

 

 

p.s for the ssd-change-frame I´d prefer "Delock"...they had a six-pack-frame-I could not find it anymore.....okay, this parts are also used after lot of time quite expensive...this shall give you only some sort of idea what you could do if you want to build up a quality-computer...one idea of 1000 possibilities!!!

AND: the fans for the SSD-docking-station is only interesting, if you use mainly HDD´s in that slot-if you switch over to SSD, you can let that little fans´s power plugs untouched and hanging down in the case-you don´t need them for cooling a SSD.

AND: "BeQuiet" has also fine CPU-cooling systems which will suit perfectly for such a board with such a prcessor...this stuff you choose by looking to the connector-type for the cpu-socket "2011" it was in the past...the RAM is depending on the boadrs´s socket-offer, too I guess it was DDR4 ram-you can always find that out by reading the boad´s RAM-support. And you don´t need to obtain the fastest RAM-better to have something-rock-solid-tons of RAM-stick available today-LOL.

 

 

If you have a custom CPU-cooler installed, the asus BIOS-settings will give you a CPU-drive-speed-fan-failure...this is normal and you can switch inside of the BIOS this error(s) off and save this setup. It´s not possible to have a CPU on this board to smoke-away, because the computer will switch off, if the CPU is overheating. The custom build with a be-quiet-cooler is always driving on the lowerst speed and the CPU is never overheating. Of course should you not overclock such a CPU. If you want to have real power, you have to use intel´s XEON-CPU´s-But this stuff is extreme expensive and you have to use dual-boards or quad-boards. Such stuff is for different computer-tasks, only suiting to a handful of software and for private consumers mostly a sort of "tech-hype".

 

[DonQuiWho]

FWIW, if you can get a Toshiba SSD, they come with their own software that will do a nice, complete clone of your c:\ drive when you install it. 

 

I guess that's assuming that your new SSD is bigger than the original drive, but it may just do a clone of the OS itself

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Its not really a good idea to put a cloned image on new hardware, the OS is set up for the hardware its supposed to run on during initial installation.  Best to just copy everything else and put it on a new drive that has its OS installed already.

[Laura]

Thanks for all the tips and guides.

I'll probably copy Skyrim to the new PC instead of cloning it. I think directly cloning it will give more issues than it's worth. There's also not much I'll have to transfer and I can just download the rest.

Still not sure if or when I'll buy a new PC, but I do have a plan for when I do.

[worik]

1 hour ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

Still not sure if or when I'll buy a new PC, but I do have a plan for when I do.

As it is decided, why not do it right now next weekend.  It's just another pain to delay it any longer.

[jaberwocky]

I know that there is a separate project referring to bondage furniture that Kimy is working on... what if the shop starts to sell that type of furniture to jarls?

Just one to three pieces to be placed at the entrance of their keep (could be both inside as well as outside). Once such a piece is sold, about once a week a prisoner (or a citizen with a kink) could be found constraint in such a device. This will also slowly turn Skyrim slightly more kinky over time.

 

As to the dragonborn, its role is to demonstrate (with the help of Katherina) the effectiveness of that particular piece of furniture. There is a chance that the jarl doesn't like a specific type of furniture, thus after a cooldown period, a second demonstration is to be given. As to the demonstration, a lot of tweaking can be done during each quest. It could be a quick demonstration, or the jarl could insist on a longer demonstration where the dragonborn is left alone for a bit. Should that happen, people could walk by and interact with the dragonborn. For instance, a device could be equipped (slave boots, or a teaser plug). Or a degrading comment or two could be made about how it is obvious that the current predicament excites the dragonborn. And people could state that they would love to try that device themselves (two days later Laura might make a comment with regards to Ysolda and if you happen to enter her house, you suddenly find that same device, no quest or anything related, just a hidden gimmick). Although I am not sure tjat I need to make many suggestions, given how creative the plot lines in your quests are so far.

Anyway, I hope you like this suggestion and good luck with your computer.

[Shenecek]

On 11/22/2019 at 1:57 PM, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I haven't changed anything in the Winking Skeever so I don't think this is my mods fault.

I do see an FNIS error and a few DD errors, but I'm not sure if they're the cause.

 

Have you had crashes before?

Does your game run smoothly or do it have more issues?

Does FNIS give an error when you run it?

Can you share your Load Order?

Hey. Many thanks for your response.  And also - I love your mod. It is absolutely amazing work

 

I have managed to fix that previous issue by uninstalling some crappy mods and starting from fresh. 

 

However,  I now have another issue and I have no idea how to deal with it, I was hoping you might be able to point me in some direction 

 

When I am on the "What She deserves" mission I get past the pub and into the blue palace. Everything is ok. I find the person and have the initial dialogue with her. She takes the potion off me and I get a pop up that I have lost control - all good. But after this nothing more happens. What is interesting is that if I wait a little bit, do quick save and then do quick load. I will be given the next animation (she moves over, I save, I load,  I move over, I save I load, get undressed.... ) I can get through the whole sequence although no dialogue happens. I get all the bondage kit and get back to the shop. And similar issue there. I walk to the cell. No controls. Quick save. load. cell gets closed... and nothing passed that. I am stuck. 

 

Would you happen to know what might be the issue? Alternatively, could you spoil what happens next and any possible dialogues? I am dying to know but my game wont play ball. Its more frustrating than having an armbinder.

 

Thanks in advance,