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cornbreadtm

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The online functions are automatic turned off when you first fire it up on the latest versions. You have to either manually connect NMM to your internet or preform a task that sets it up (like endorsing or downloading a mod). I find it convenient since I use it for endorsements. Modders on nexus are getting pretty anal about those. Which I don't understand, since no matter how good your mod is, it will be always trumped by a pretty follower mod, or better yet. Statues.

 

I never used MO (I installed it to see its benefits which were 0 for me) I just double click a mod to install it or double click a mod to uninstall it, since I've been using the same save on my skyrim for over 400 hours while daily removing, add, and merging mod in my 250+ load order I'd say nothing fancier is needed. Though to be fair I've seen people who can't even do preschool modding like changing their characters body type or skeleton... so I don't judge people on what they themselves use.

400 hours? On a single save file? That's amazing.

I usually barely finish a few quests before I wanna try a new mod setup or some random stuff and start a new save xD

 

 

I do that... with the same save. I'm a really good modder. Been at it a while have a lot of tricks and experience. It's a lot more pleasant not to have to restart because "your save got corrupted" (noob shit lol)

It's kind of funny though. Since Skyrims scripts are baked into the saves it's actually easier to manage them than with FNV or Oblivion which I would actually have to start a new save on or roll back when errors occur. Skyrim I just remove the mod, clean the save and shove the mod back it.

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The online functions are automatic turned off when you first fire it up on the latest versions. You have to either manually connect NMM to your internet or preform a task that sets it up (like endorsing or downloading a mod). I find it convenient since I use it for endorsements. Modders on nexus are getting pretty anal about those. Which I don't understand, since no matter how good your mod is, it will be always trumped by a pretty follower mod, or better yet. Statues.

 

I never used MO (I installed it to see its benefits which were 0 for me) I just double click a mod to install it or double click a mod to uninstall it, since I've been using the same save on my skyrim for over 400 hours while daily removing, add, and merging mod in my 250+ load order I'd say nothing fancier is needed. Though to be fair I've seen people who can't even do preschool modding like changing their characters body type or skeleton... so I don't judge people on what they themselves use.

400 hours? On a single save file? That's amazing.

I usually barely finish a few quests before I wanna try a new mod setup or some random stuff and start a new save xD

 

I do that... with the same save. I'm a really good modder. Been at it a while have a lot of tricks and experience. It's a lot more pleasant not to have to restart because "your save got corrupted" (noob shit lol)

It's kind of funny though. Since Skyrims scripts are baked into the saves it's actually easier to manage them than with FNV or Oblivion which I would actually have to start a new save on or roll back when errors occur. Skyrim I just remove the mod, clean the save and shove the mod back it.

Na, I know how to manage my saves too.

I'm just always looking at new things and wanting to try new mods out so I decide to go back and do things from the beginning with all new characters.

Some characters I make just to dedicate them to a single faction.

 

Never sided with the Stormcloaks though, not since 11.11.11 when I got the game on my PS3. Fuck those guys :|

zzz72w3r

zzz72w3r

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Oh look, it's another "am I kawaii yet sempai please shove it in every one of my holes uguu" mod.

The only reason Skyrim's nexus has the most mods is because it's filled with repetitive unimaginative shit like this. The only way it could possibly be worse is if people started mass uploading save files.

 

The majority of Nexus people are no longer 'modding', they are 'uploading'.  I'm working on master file for my Skyrim game.  Basic stuff, NPC tweaks, crafting, some interior cell changes, a lot more variations for player chargen and NPC faces, etc.  There's no way in Hell I'd upload it, since all I'm doing is using other modders' works and putting my own spin on them.  To me, what I'm doing isn't modding.  To Nexus, it is worthy of upload, praise and possibly File of the Month.  But this happens to every BethSoft game Nexus hosts for.  It becomes a quagmire of shit mods.

 

I guess the worst would be follower mods where the author reuses the same face he made in ECE, does a little cosmetics, changes the eyes and hair and SUDDENLY it is a 'Stand Alone' with the same shitty AI vanilla followers have.  *yawn*

 

"Hey everybody, LOOK!  I know how to path meshes and textures (that I didn't make) and use the game's fucked up mechanics to make an awesome (ehem) follower!  Isn't it great?!"

 

NO, it's not.  We can all do that.  Take a fucking screenshot.  The image share at Lover's Lab is FULL of nice looking toons.  There isn't a stampede here to upload them as followers.

 

 

I usually try to keep my mouth shut in discussions that I don't qualified but I do feel that this attitude is uncalled for.  Nexus is not some qualified institution where a panel of judges decide whose mod is worthy.  It takes all comers and so what if some novice or untrained person put up a mod that's simple, silly or unoriginal.  Don't like it, don't download it.  There are millions copies of Skyrim sold legally and only what 35,000 mods on Nexus?  99% of Skyrim players cannot or do not create mod for others and if having a little mod on Nexus makes someone feel like part of a fraternity and motivate the person to do better then what is the problem?  Perhaps you don't think they are worthy to be mentioned alongside with someone of your skills but last time I check modding does not have an official class system. 

 

As for the knock on follower mods.  Yes, 99% of the follower mods are repetitive and/or of very low quality but I have more respect for those people than people who are talented enough to make beautiful toons and chose to broadcast the screenshots and announce to the world they they are not sharing.  It's everyone's right not to share but there is no reason to sneer at people who do.  There is a reason that nice looking and original faces are so popular.  Sandbox games are nothing without dolls because it is basically just a dollhouse and most people are not talented enough or have the technical experience to create nice digital toons.  

 

Making fun of hypocrites, attention whores, stupid thieves is glorious fun but making fun of people for trying and sharing? 

cornbreadtm

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I usually try to keep my mouth shut in discussions that I don't qualified but I do feel that this attitude is uncalled for.  Nexus is not some qualified institution where a panel of judges decide whose mod is worthy.  It takes all comers and so what if some novice or untrained person put up a mod that's simple, silly or unoriginal.  Don't like it, don't download it.  There are millions copies of Skyrim sold legally and only what 35,000 mods on Nexus?  99% of Skyrim players cannot or do not create mod for others and if having a little mod on Nexus makes someone feel like part of a fraternity and motivate the person to do better then what is the problem?  Perhaps you don't think they are worthy to be mentioned alongside with someone of your skills but last time I check modding does not have an official class system. 

 

As for the knock on follower mods.  Yes, 99% of the follower mods are repetitive and/or of very low quality but I have more respect for those people than people who are talented enough to make beautiful toons and chose to broadcast the screenshots and announce to the world they they are not sharing.  It's everyone's right not to share but there is no reason to sneer at people who do.  There is a reason that nice looking and original faces are so popular.  Sandbox games are nothing without dolls because it is basically just a dollhouse and most people are not talented enough or have the technical experience to create nice digital toons.  

 

Making fun of hypocrites, attention whores, stupid thieves is glorious fun but making fun of people for trying and sharing? 

 

 

...Well, yeah.... but... that's no fun....

Derpakiin

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Oh look, it's another "am I kawaii yet sempai please shove it in every one of my holes uguu" mod.

The only reason Skyrim's nexus has the most mods is because it's filled with repetitive unimaginative shit like this. The only way it could possibly be worse is if people started mass uploading save files.

 

The majority of Nexus people are no longer 'modding', they are 'uploading'.  I'm working on master file for my Skyrim game.  Basic stuff, NPC tweaks, crafting, some interior cell changes, a lot more variations for player chargen and NPC faces, etc.  There's no way in Hell I'd upload it, since all I'm doing is using other modders' works and putting my own spin on them.  To me, what I'm doing isn't modding.  To Nexus, it is worthy of upload, praise and possibly File of the Month.  But this happens to every BethSoft game Nexus hosts for.  It becomes a quagmire of shit mods.

 

I guess the worst would be follower mods where the author reuses the same face he made in ECE, does a little cosmetics, changes the eyes and hair and SUDDENLY it is a 'Stand Alone' with the same shitty AI vanilla followers have.  *yawn*

 

"Hey everybody, LOOK!  I know how to path meshes and textures (that I didn't make) and use the game's fucked up mechanics to make an awesome (ehem) follower!  Isn't it great?!"

 

NO, it's not.  We can all do that.  Take a fucking screenshot.  The image share at Lover's Lab is FULL of nice looking toons.  There isn't a stampede here to upload them as followers.

 

 

I usually try to keep my mouth shut in discussions that I don't qualified but I do feel that this attitude is uncalled for.  Nexus is not some qualified institution where a panel of judges decide whose mod is worthy.  It takes all comers and so what if some novice or untrained person put up a mod that's simple, silly or unoriginal.  Don't like it, don't download it.  There are millions copies of Skyrim sold legally and only what 35,000 mods on Nexus?  99% of Skyrim players cannot or do not create mod for others and if having a little mod on Nexus makes someone feel like part of a fraternity and motivate the person to do better then what is the problem?  Perhaps you don't think they are worthy to be mentioned alongside with someone of your skills but last time I check modding does not have an official class system. 

 

As for the knock on follower mods.  Yes, 99% of the follower mods are repetitive and/or of very low quality but I have more respect for those people than people who are talented enough to make beautiful toons and chose to broadcast the screenshots and announce to the world they they are not sharing.  It's everyone's right not to share but there is no reason to sneer at people who do.  There is a reason that nice looking and original faces are so popular.  Sandbox games are nothing without dolls because it is basically just a dollhouse and most people are not talented enough or have the technical experience to create nice digital toons.  

 

Making fun of hypocrites, attention whores, stupid thieves is glorious fun but making fun of people for trying and sharing? 

 

 

Because people expect a cookie for every toon they spend time on in the race selection screen, which for one thing doesn't require a great deal of talent to use in the first place. I don't reward people with no talent and I don't reward people who don't even try.

 

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zzz72w3r

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I doubt most people upload follower mods to Nexus expect a reward.  I think they are just happy to have something they work on alongside some truly great mods.  It encourages people to try better.

cornbreadtm

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I doubt most people upload follower mods to Nexus expect a reward.  I think they are just happy to have something they work on alongside some truly great mods.  It encourages people to try better.

 

So when one person gets on hotfiles for lets say... making a statue with huge tits. Then someone else does the same, and gets on hot files. Then 5 other people make statues right after that. They did that because? They just wanted to "have something they work on alongside some truly great (subjective) mods."

 

Na they just trying to get on hotfiles by following a trend!

 

Look at hotfiles right now.

There's one WoW elf girl on there that looks really good. Has a custom texture and all her assets packed right (uses the shitty vanilla follower system with vanilla voice and is vanilla on vanilla with vanilla). We can't all be Vilja or 3DNPCs but people love WoW so...

 

Then there is another just unloaded elf girl! She can literally be made from scratch in 5 minutes using either of the 2 Character editing mods, but is in hotfiles... because? Trend! People are just making mods for the easy hotfiles since one mod gets on there people are looking for stuff similar. Does it have to be equal? Nope just has to be similar.

 

This happens every week so yeah we make fun of it. Because it's like being in highschool and laughing at the poser kid who can't skate but wears vans and carries his skateboard around with him everywhere. He gets to hang out with the skaters but he has 0 of their skill.

 

We don't make fun of good mods here! We respect that shit. We make fun of poser mods.

Jormungandr

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I never understand why people use NMM MO BOSS or LOOT and the like.

 

NMM is propably the greatest steaming pile of shit ever created in the modding community, i stopped counting how often i saw someone reporting something doesn't work/asking for help and NMM as involved. MO, no idea about that one, goes into the same category as NMM for me, won't use it.

 

I used BOSS once in my life, it fucked my load order up so grand it wasn't funny anymore. Never touched LOOT because of BOSS' crappyness. And frankly people tend to stop thinking on their own once they can refer to BOSS or now LOOT, since BOSS got kinda discontinued from what i've gathered.

I only go face-desking whenever i see someone asking for help and people say "Run BOSS/LOOT". It's like the majority thinks the program is magical and can solve all your modding problems.

 

Which it can't.

 

To add to this, i didn't have had a CTD or problem i couldn't solve on my own with me game in the past 2 years. No joke.  And i'm not using any of those fancy programs.

NMM has improved a lot. The only problems I have with my game now are dumb mistakes I make every now and then which can't be attributed to the program at all, I am a derp and make mistakes. Doesn't justify people blaming mods and authors for their stupid shit but likewise it doesn't make someone with a problem automatically a stupid person.

 

BOSS is discontinued? No. Now it's just called LOOT and it's smart enough to go through your mods detecting what they change and rearranging them to avoid conflict, if conflict is unavoidable it'll give you warnings about it. It can also detect dirty edits, etc. just like BOSS. BOSS was bad because it ran on user-generated master files and human error would make it order things wrongly because hundreds of users would give different opinions on what should go where.

 

In school, going through my first A+ course I was taught that in order to solve a problem I should do the simplest things first and make the easy checks.

Is the computer connected to the electricity? Is the power button on? Is the monitor on? Etc.

In that same vein, telling someone to check their Load Order is the first order of business when dealing with CTDs and weirdness in games, from then on different things can be determined and worked on if the problem persists. It's the simple things that'll usually catch a person off-guard because we always overlook certain things as we go about troubleshooting a specific problem thinking it might be a big problem when it could be something simple, like putting a Master after a mod dependent on it and causing a CTD.

 

I'm not attacking you or anything, just saying, you're being a little.. hmm... I can't think of a word in English... confrontative?...

That's not even a word is it? o_O

 

 

 

 

I've grown out of the age where i sought confrontations for that matter, i just tend to have a rather agressive vocabulary, you know.. dem germans, we're always angry.

 

Basically i'm just baffled how popular those tools are while the majority of people have so much problems with them, and/or don't help them. Skyrims data structure isn't that hard to understand actually.

 

But if i may give an example, right here from LL  (No intention of bashing the fellow user here of course).

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/35374-black-screen/

 

And frankly, i don't give a rats ass if BOSS is now named LOOT, discontinued or got a grammy award. :P

 

 

And eh... I wont get started on NMM again, already did that a while back. I didn't like it much, it's almost insulting for me to use something like that, so I learned the file organization Skyrim uses and I install things manually. Always manually... had too many times where an installer screwed up something or, if in the case of uninstalling, it didn't pull all the files. I don't know if it accounts for shared files either but... I would rather not risk it. I backup all of my mods anyway in a separate folder, so I always know what files went where, and what mod uses what. And, thank God for the save cleaning tools too. Helps a lot with scripts left in saves and whatnot (though I avoid uninstalling scripted mods as much as possible once they're there).

 

You Ma'am, are doing it right.

zzz72w3r

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I doubt most people upload follower mods to Nexus expect a reward.  I think they are just happy to have something they work on alongside some truly great mods.  It encourages people to try better.

 

So when one person gets on hotfiles for lets say... making a statue with huge tits. Then someone else does the same, and gets on hot files. Then 5 other people make statues right after that. They did that because? They just wanted to "have something they work on alongside some truly great (subjective) mods."

 

Na they just trying to get on hotfiles by following a trend!

 

Look at hotfiles right now.

There's one WoW elf girl on there that looks really good. Has a custom texture and all her assets packed right (uses the shitty vanilla follower system with vanilla voice and is vanilla on vanilla with vanilla). We can't all be Vilja or 3DNPCs but people love WoW so...

 

Then there is another just unloaded elf girl! She can literally be made from scratch in 5 minutes using either of the 2 Character editing mods, but is in hotfiles... because? Trend! People are just making mods for the easy hotfiles since one mod gets on there people are looking for stuff similar. Does it have to be equal? Nope just has to be similar.

 

This happens every week so yeah we make fun of it. Because it's like being in highschool and laughing at the poser kid who can't skate but wears vans and carries his skateboard around with him everywhere. He gets to hang out with the skaters but he has 0 of their skill.

 

We don't make fun of good mods here! We respect that shit. We make fun of poser mods.

 

 

I knew people will quote me out of context as soon as I made my original post.  Go back and read my original post and the reply post after and my post which you quoted. 

 

So to make it very clear: I was referring to people sneering or denigrating follower mods in general or any mod they deem as unworthy of even existing on Nexus.  Did I mention anything about the Hot File or endorsement?  For people who spend all the time making fun of Nexus you do strangely hold some kind of high regard of the kind of modding standard that site needs to behold. 

 

For all its alleged and convicted sins, Nexus is not elitist snob.  There is plenty of that elsewhere and here.

 

This will end my post on this thread and go ahead and misquote me anyway you want just so you can have the satisfaction of having the last word.

GrimReaper

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Keep in mind that LL was first and foremost founded to create a place for modders and mods that were shunned and ridiculed elsewhere. And in the beginning of LL, it was mostly about translating existing mods into english because the sex framework for Oblivion was made by japanese modders. It was never meant to be a place where you bash mods because in your eyes they're unworthy or are just there to stroke the modder's ego. Even the quite silly titty statue mods serve a purpose, if you want to turn your Skyrim into a silly hentai game, those are perfect for that. You already have a plethora of skimpy clothing so changing the environment of the game to reflect that is nice, if you are into this kind of thing. Other people jumping on the bandwagon isn't such a bad thing either if you think about it, more choice is always good for the end-user.

 

And finally, if you would have read the rules here on LL, you'd see that trash talking about mods and modders is not allowed. If you don't like it, make what you want yourself. People creating statue mods or followers do so because they want to (for whatever reasons). Insulting them won't magically lead to more intricate mods being created. People creating mods are not all-in-one devices suitable for every purposes, they do what they want and to the best of their abilities. Maybe creating a new follower is all that this person can do with the CK, making a pretty face and bringing it into the game for everyone to enjoy. And that's not a bad thing either considering that most people wouldn't even know how to do that despite claiming that it would take 10 minutes at max.

srayesmanll

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I found this pretty interesting. I'm kind of surprised that it wasn't done already.

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/56744/?

 

Cool idea.  The only problem (like one Nexus commenter implied) this would have been nice 3 yrs ago.  The problem is some of us have been playing it so long that we know the NPCs inside and out.  Hell, I don't even look at the names when talking to them.  It's great for newcomers, but pretty much useless for the long-time veterans.

DDproductions83

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Just going to leave these links here:

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/56944/?

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/56952/?

 

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Although I do think those "mods" are fucking ridiculous

See tools like that make me /facepalm and second guess taking a year out of my life to make something that's actually awesome as fuck

Not because of his mod but because he will get to play it for free and someone that retarded does not deserve the benefit of my hard work..

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I don't get it, is the difficulty slider that hard to find in the game?

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/56932

 

And before people like GrimReaper get on my ass, this 'work' is done in 30 seconds in the CK. And as you can see the reception of the mod is not present at all.

 

So yeah i don't get it why people are doing this.

Racial resists are weak enough as it is.

Is it really necessary to make them worse?

 
This is what I use to make my races cool:
GrimReaper

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I don't get it, is the difficulty slider that hard to find in the game?

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/56932

 

And before people like GrimReaper get on my ass, this 'work' is done in 30 seconds in the CK. And as you can see the reception of the mod is not present at all.

 

So yeah i don't get it why people are doing this.

 

He made something that nobody wanted so he didn't get any downloads or endorsements. I don't see the problem here.

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