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myuhinny

myuhinny

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I use NMM but it's a older build that never gets updated and never goes on line and I have never had a problem with it. Most mods I unzip them and then load them up into nifskope to see what they look like and it helps catch stuff like missing/misplaced/incorrect textures/texture paths.

Guest Omega1084

Guest Omega1084

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I use NMM, as said previously, and I've never had a problem with it.

I used to have issues every now and then but it was me being a derp and not installing things right.

So far I've never had a problem on NMM that was created by NMM.

I tried MO and it wasn't for me. To each their own.

Objectively bashing on some product for any reason is ridiculous as some people somewhere will enjoy it.

I like using NMM, the best way to use any Mod Manager is by letting it install things, sure, but checking that things are done correctly personally.

That way you'll never have a problem, I sure don't[anymore].

LOOT + NMM is my setup and my Skyrim and Fallout: NV have never been more stable.

Gilibran

Gilibran

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Been a member on Nexus sinds 2005. Got a lifetime account because back then i thought it was worth it to support. Since 2011-11-11 it went downhill though.

 

Now i should not be commenting on even the silliest mod because i cannot mod to save my life. Only thing i acomplished is put a chest in Oblivion and loose 150 hours of gear because apparently chests respwan :-) I spend close to 50 hours reading and trying to convert Zertualpro's underworld armor from oblivion to skyrim. I failed so completely at that, that my ego still has a hole the size of the moon 8 months after the effort :-) If anyone here wants to do it, i still have Zertualpro's permission. Also i should have the Ladybody 1.4 mod somewhere where the armor is already in. But converting ladybody to UNP is even harder for me then getting it to at least show up in blender after converting in nifskope and importing in blender from Oblivion.

 

But the kind of mods that are released are just crap lately. I encourage people to start modding so i have stuff to download because as said, i cannot mod to save my life lol. But if the Nexus and what is uploaded there is a sign for the future generation of modders i foresee ableak future for the next modable Bethesda game. Undoubtly sites like this will remain but few find their way here to see what is possible technically and visually to be inspired to make something spectacular themselves. I'm afraid all we will see in FO 4 (probably the next modabble game from Bethesda) is naked and repaired statues, lightsabers and converted terra armors.

Guest Omega1084

Guest Omega1084

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This is like the fifth time someone tries to do this.
And every time they seem think it's fucking awesometastical to shamelessly plug their shitty videos like it's a mod!

I understand that the average quality for Skyrim mods is down the drains but shit, man! What the fuck!?

Jormungandr

Jormungandr

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I never understand why people use NMM MO BOSS or LOOT and the like.

 

NMM is propably the greatest steaming pile of shit ever created in the modding community, i stopped counting how often i saw someone reporting something doesn't work/asking for help and NMM as involved. MO, no idea about that one, goes into the same category as NMM for me, won't use it.

 

I used BOSS once in my life, it fucked my load order up so grand it wasn't funny anymore. Never touched LOOT because of BOSS' crappyness. And frankly people tend to stop thinking on their own once they can refer to BOSS or now LOOT, since BOSS got kinda discontinued from what i've gathered.

I only go face-desking whenever i see someone asking for help and people say "Run BOSS/LOOT". It's like the majority thinks the program is magical and can solve all your modding problems.

 

Which it can't.

 

To add to this, i didn't have had a CTD or problem i couldn't solve on my own with me game in the past 2 years. No joke.  And i'm not using any of those fancy programs.

 

 

I know this comment is a few days old now, but anyways....

 

I find your comment about the majority of people thinking it's all magic quite ironic really, considering you seem to have thrown all these tools overboard after a bad experience with BOSS, it's like you've decided all forms of automation related to modding is bad juju, and the only right way to do it is the macho Putin way, stripped to the waist and wrestling mods with your bare hands. 

 

It doesn't have to be a binary choice, I don't understand why anybody would paint themselves into a corner that way.  I'd say learning as you go, getting your hands dirty when you have to, and using tools that makes the whole process faster and easier whenever you can is working smart.  Avoiding them because they were horrible to you isn't so much. 

 

edit: no argument from me about NMM though, it really is a steaming pile of shite that will almost certainly fuck most peoples game up at some point. But that doesn't mean MO is by association also junk. It really isn't, but if you haven't ever used it Jorm, you're in no position to judge. 

 

 

Well yes, that's how it see it personally. I learned how the data structure works with Oblivion and ever since i stuck to my own wisdom, of course i ran into a lot of walls, but i learned out of it. Don't get me wrong, i don't expect people to do it the same way, i just see it very often that people think the possible solutions end with said programs and that one time i used BOSS was out of lazyness and it backfired greatly, so i have my reasons. And in the end it's my game and my business how i handle it. It sure is smart to use such tools, i mean i won't hammer a nail into a wall with bare hands, but for me the stability of my game is in question with that, so i don't use them. Simple as that.

 

And if i'd be against automated functions, tools and the like, i wouldn't use SKSEs script cleanup function, which is automated. But the process is a simple YES/NO function so i don't see any risks in it. Sorting tools however face a more complex task when it comes to the outcome as they don't recognize everything to 100% accuracy, hence i have nuked my game with BOSS at that time.

 

Now frankly i have to say, i feel more like being painted into that corner by you. I mean i can do whatever i want with my game and i don't see a reason why i have to defend myself on that topic infront of you. Also i don't see the reason for you to defend MO unless you're the creator of it and feel offended by what i said about it. If i would've said anything about MO to begin with (with the same category i'm not referring to it as shit but rather that i won't use it as i won't use NMM), except that i don't understand why people use it.

 

The only program i've judged is the NMM and from what i read we're in the same boat about that.

Guest Omega1084

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Whenever an opinion is presented as an objective fact in such a forthcoming way it is sooner or later going to be met with debate and controversy.

Taskmaster

Taskmaster

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You don't understand why people use MO?

 

I mean for starters, the organizer allows you to keep your Skyrim folder pristine. Just making a new profile on MO is like nuking your Skyrim, without having to delete the mods. It is all 100% separate, won't run into installation errors where it failed to replace a file or switch back on uninstallation, every damn mod has it's own personal folder.

 

Also, the organizer allows you to set priority on files and folders, as if they were overwritten except it's not replacing the actual files like manual installation or NMM. Then, it has a BSA unpacker, LOOT is built in, etc. Programs like LOOT and BOSS, when they sort your mods it's never supposed to be the end all anyway, you gotta look at the actual order it's put in.

 

Never have something that's done automatically have the final say. 

 

MO essentially makes it much faster and efficient for the user to troubleshoot and customize each and every mod installation without it touching any other mod whatsoever. Along with the normal perk of an organizer listing all of your mods in case you forgot. It even fixes older saves turning on the mods you have in the organizer that was used on that save, incase you unchecked them for a different save/playthrough. You dont' have to sit there and juggle folders all day.

 

I mean, look at it like this, you manually installing mods overwriting and replacing, making sure you replaced the right file and have a backup of whatever was there previously and blah blah. With MO, you don't ever have to do that shit lol. Setting up a few mods that would take you like 30 minutes would take 2 minutes with MO. 

Derpakiin

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You don't understand why people use MO?

 

I mean for starters, the organizer allows you to keep your Skyrim folder pristine. Just making a new profile on MO is like nuking your Skyrim, without having to delete the mods. It is all 100% separate, won't run into installation errors where it failed to replace a file or switch back on uninstallation, every damn mod has it's own personal folder.

 

Also, the organizer allows you to set priority on files and folders, as if they were overwritten except it's not replacing the actual files like manual installation or NMM. Then, it has a BSA unpacker, LOOT is built in, etc. Programs like LOOT and BOSS, when they sort your mods it's never supposed to be the end all anyway, you gotta look at the actual order it's put in.

 

Never have something that's done automatically have the final say. 

 

MO essentially makes it much faster and efficient for the user to troubleshoot and customize each and every mod installation without it touching any other mod whatsoever. Along with the normal perk of an organizer listing all of your mods in case you forgot. It even fixes older saves turning on the mods you have in the organizer that was used on that save, incase you unchecked them for a different save/playthrough. You dont' have to sit there and juggle folders all day.

 

I mean, look at it like this, you manually installing mods overwriting and replacing, making sure you replaced the right file and have a backup of whatever was there previously and blah blah. With MO, you don't ever have to do that shit lol. Setting up a few mods that would take you like 30 minutes would take 2 minutes with MO. 

 

MO basically makes a virtual drive and tells Skyrim that it can draw it's reference from the virtual drive it provides. I for one find that it improves performance of my game quite a bit.

 

Another advantage is that I can simply copy/paste my MO folder onto another machine with a 'virgin' copy of Skyrim and MO will load the fully modded game on the go. Put MO onto an external HDD and you have a portable modded Skyrim system.

Gilibran

Gilibran

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With morrowind you had no option to install other then manually. The only problem i had with that was keeping track of countless bqckup folders. The same for Oblivion in the beginning, but boy did i embrace the first mod managers. Yes it was still difficult and you still had to rely on the knowledge you gained from morrowind.

 

NMM was a step up and MO is the holy grail. Not that it is flawless you still have to apply the same logic you apply when manually installing. I can but i will not go back to manual installation ever other then necesary tools like skse.

 

The way i see it it's simple progress, offcourse luckily we are free to do it however we want it but dont discard it just because something else works better for you.

 

It's a bit like you should have heard my grandpa go into a rant when someone said it used to better in the old days haha.It was not according to him lol. Cars broke down more often, you had to go to atleast 4 stores for groceries, electrics were unreliable, houses build like crap, no central heating, it took weeks to hear from the other side of the planet. Now he could go to one store, drive a reliable car, be warm and cosy while he daily talks to his brother that emigrated to Australia 60 years ago via the internet and not wait weeks for a letter. If it was better back then, then why did his generation and the next have invented all that stuff to make life easier lol

Rayblue

Rayblue

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A strange picture without even an actual mod uploaded or a weird description will gain more clicks than would a practice farmhouse player home.

Guest Omega1084

Guest Omega1084

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Malkavian Paranoia:

1. The Dark0ne is just making secret accounts to do weird shit and then ban himself after he gets enough views.

cornbreadtm

cornbreadtm

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http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2014589-xbitu-formal-warning-issued/ warning issued for posting this to someone asking for help in a PM. http://prntscr.com/4czuoj This picture should be stickied all over the internet and have it flash on the screen. 

 

Looks like he helped the man... they killed Jesus and MLK for the same crimes. Edit: Forgot about that kid on "Pay it forward"!

 

Moral of the story: Don't teach people to help themselves, just sit back and watch them fail.

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