Sexlab Survival

[Pineapples_os]

so a bit of a hitch recently after starting a game and getting to Riverwood I'm force-greeted by an enforcer who loops a follower check cause I don't have a follower present (I'm guessing here) so it gets stuck in a dialogue loop where they relentlessly ask where my follower (escort) is before force teleporting me to whiterun not sure if this is a bug with sls or dfc or any other mod no crashes just a very aggressive enforcer who really wants to call my bluff that there a little lagging behind and that they'll be there soon...

[Sierrok]

Any Ideas as to what happened to Monoman1 files? Where they moved somewhere else? The download for this mod is gone...

 

[vlad3977]

I keep waiting for the guards to remove the bars from eviction at around 3 am. Both waiting at the Bannered mare nor just staring at breezehome changes anything, is the event triggered by chance per night or is there something wrong with my game?

[SkyTem]

Can't find monoman's patreon site either   Anyone able to post the data for the missing mods?

Edited October 22, 2023 by SkyTem

[SkyTem]

I forget if there are any other files he had?  Anyone know?

[SkyTem]

And this file to go with Sexlab Survival.  Can't remember who it was from. 

Lose Survival Licenses.7z

Edited October 22, 2023 by SkyTem

[badbat111]

monoman1 is everything ok ?

[SkyTem]

I uploaded the files of his I had downloaded to this forum yesterday but when i got on today those posts were all gone. 

[SkyTem]

Let me know if these work for you.  Get them while you can.  And let me know how long they were up if they poof again ?

[Vaccinated Alligator]

I'm feeling that the history with Captured Dreams will repeat itself with Sexlab Survival.

[inviz.t]

15 hours ago, SkyTem said:

Let me know if these work for you.  Get them while you can.  And let me know how long they were up if they poof again ?

If they got removed, maybe take the hint and don't upload them? Especially not to the exact same thread the author removed the files from?

[ebbluminous]

On 10/22/2023 at 11:02 PM, SkyTem said:

Let me know if these work for you.  Get them while you can.  And let me know how long they were up if they poof again ?

They poofed again,.

[divinefire]

I've been playing mono's mods since before wartimes and will always cherish the hard work it must have over the years to put forth so many changes that jell really well. I dunno whats going on with the modder but you have my thanks for sharing them as long as you did.  Its not the first time I have seen this happen even with skyrim mods. I always keep back of backups to my favorites and this is one of them. I feel bad for future players of mods that can not get these anymore and I also feel bad it came to whatever situation  that drove mono to remove everything.

[tamai]

I am not speaking for Monoman1, but we should respect their wishes for removing the mods and just move on. They likely removed their mods so they don't have a reason to come back and maintain them anymore.

[audhol]

Well said the last 2 posts above this. Monoman had the ideas and succesfully implemented them into a stable fully customisable mod. 

 

I have no idea why he pulled his work but it remains his work and he is free to do as he chooses with it.

 

It is morally wrong to reupload versions of the mod if the author has decided he or she no longer wishes for them to be available, perhaps thoose that are doing so could spend more time learning to mod themselves rather than critising others for removing theirs.

 

Mod authors have no responsibility to the community to maintain or provide their FREE content.

 

Perhaps if nefram is not happy with it being removed then they shouldnt have labeled it a buggy overpowering mess of a mod on their description?

 

Perhaps if modders had sought to enhance SLS rather than copy bits of it to release as seperate mods then it might still exist.

 

I thank monoman for the content he provided and treasure my copy of his mod. I appreciate the effort he put into making it and the support that he gave to everyone that had an issue.

 

I sincerly hope that he comes back with something new that blows us all away but at the same time I would completely understand if we never see him again.

 

 

[Herowynne]

4 hours ago, audhol said:

Perhaps if nefram is not happy with it being removed then they shouldnt have labeled it a buggy overpowering mess of a mod on their description?

 

Is that the working theory? That Monoman1 was unhappy with Wabbajack modlists?

[ponzipyramid]

For anyone interested in learning mod development, I'd take this a good opportunity to get started. While we can't reupload its code or assets, there's nothing stopping anyone from picking up where the original left off - just look at Gyra's continuation of BananaManiac's Licenses or Dasha17's CumSwallowNeedsAddon. The best part about splitting the mod into its constituent parts is each component can be improved and expanded in parallel without one person needing to do everything themselves.

 

Hopefully, we'll get replacements for each major feature eventually and who knows they might even supersede Monoman's excellent work.

 

EDIT: to preemptively clarify what I mean by pick up where they left off, I do not mean copying the scripts and making slight edits. I was thinking more along the lines of conceptual inspiration.

Edited October 24, 2023 by ponzipyramid

[Thurlam]

4 hours ago, audhol said:

It is morally wrong to reupload versions of the mod if the author has decided he or she no longer wishes for them to be available, perhaps thoose that are doing so could spend more time learning to mod themselves rather than critising others for removing theirs.

 

Perhaps if modders had sought to enhance SLS rather than copy bits of it to release as seperate mods then it might still exist.

 

I'd argue it's (far) more amoral to suddenly delete/attempt to make a (highly popular) mod unavailable than it is to simply preserve what was already publicly available for years.

 

And I can't say I'm particularly keen on your righteous high-horse blame throwing, either...

 

I can't fault anyone for being upset that SLS has seemingly vanished overnight, nor for seeking alternate sources to obtain it. Ofc MM1 did great work and he's well within his rights to do what he wants with his account/files/posts, but that doesn't mean we should cheer on his decision to nuke everything without warning, and we certainly shouldn't be shaming people for still wanting access to SLS.

[ebbluminous]

1 hour ago, ponzipyramid said:

For anyone interested in learning mod development, I'd take this a good opportunity to get started. While we can't reupload its code or assets, there's nothing stopping anyone from picking up where the original left off - just look at Gyra's continuation of BananaManiac's Licenses or Dasha17's CumSwallowNeedsAddon. The best part about splitting the mod into its constituent parts is each component can be improved and expanded in parallel without one person needing to do everything themselves.

 

Hopefully, we'll get replacements for each major feature eventually and who knows they might even supersede Monoman's excellent work.

 

EDIT: to preemptively clarify what I mean by pick up where they left off, I do not mean copying the scripts and making slight edits. I was thinking more along the lines of conceptual inspiration.

Pretty much all I wanted from Survival was whats covered in the new CumSwallowNeedsAddon. That feature was not enough to instal SLS and then have what I didn't want cause issues with other mods. Should be more modularity with mods rather than cram in a crapton of features

[tamai]

5 hours ago, Thurlam said:

I'd argue it's (far) more amoral to suddenly delete/attempt to make a (highly popular) mod unavailable than it is to simply preserve what was already publicly available for years.

No offense to you, but you're not a mod creator nor have you probably produced any type of content. If you have then you should understand why he needs to remove his content if nothing else but for his own mental wellbeing. I also know he didn't remove it for selfish reasons, however at the end of the day I would rather be understanding and give my blessing.

[audhol]

7 hours ago, Herowynne said:

Is that the working theory? That Monoman1 was unhappy with Wabbajack modlists?

I have no clue what Mono's reasoning was, my comments were based purely on how I would feel if I was in his place.

[Whollupwhozit]

...well, I figured something like this will happen sooner or later what with the feature creep this mod had turned into.

 

I just didn't expect him to delete it all.

[Thurlam]

8 hours ago, tamai said:

No offense to you, but you're not a mod creator nor have you probably produced any type of content. If you have then you should understand why he needs to remove his content if nothing else but for his own mental wellbeing. I also know he didn't remove it for selfish reasons, however at the end of the day I would rather be understanding and give my blessing.

 

I've created over a dozen mods across various games (including Oblivion) on my main acc, and I have been intending to create Skyrim mods once I have time (and SL p+ matures), but also that doesn't matter in the slightest. Nice gatekeeping tho.

[ebbluminous]

8 hours ago, tamai said:

No offense to you, but you're not a mod creator nor have you probably produced any type of content. If you have then you should understand why he needs to remove his content if nothing else but for his own mental wellbeing. I also know he didn't remove it for selfish reasons, however at the end of the day I would rather be understanding and give my blessing.

How do you know they are not a mod creator?

 

Example me. The name I use here is not what I use elsewhere, So no mods made by me doesn't no equate to no mods anywhere.

I thought you kids were all about not assuming things about people these days?

[Herowynne]

9 hours ago, audhol said:

I have no clue what Mono's reasoning was, my comments were based purely on how I would feel if I was in his place.

 

Thanks for the reply. I am a huge fan of SL Survival and all of Monoman1's mods. I am very sad to see him withdraw his mods from LoversLab. I feel that such actions diminish the community, but I also respect and understand that mod authors have a right to do that.