slonez1 Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 Yeah, i'm still trying to settle on a good price. I was doing 75g/level but that kinda gets pricey quickly. Anyhow, here is my papyrus log, hopefully you can find something useful. https://pastebin.com/7fCFgHGA edit: in the meantime i'll just have my follower hold my gold and hope he doesn't steal it.
Monoman1 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, slonez1 said: Yeah, i'm still trying to settle on a good price. I was doing 75g/level but that kinda gets pricey quickly. Anyhow, here is my papyrus log, hopefully you can find something useful. https://pastebin.com/7fCFgHGA edit: in the meantime i'll just have my follower hold my gold and hope he doesn't steal it. Nothing useful in the log unfortunately. Does it keep happening?
ttpt Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 For those trying to uninstall and old version and saveclean to update to the new version a few tips: When you remove the old version but before cleaning the save, go into the mcm menu and see if the survival mcm menu is still there, it probabliy will be since mcm menus are finnicky like that, just exit out of the menu and check again it'll be gone eventually, once it's actually gone then make a save and clean that save. After installing the new version also make sure to run the mcm refresh console command and it will most likely show up if not right away at least when you reload. Also reporting some stuff, the push on shoving people around doesn't work if you also have the push comments turned on in sexist guards, I assume this is because the push stuff triggers from the vanilla pushing dialogue. 1
slonez1 Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, Monoman1 said: Nothing useful in the log unfortunately. Does it keep happening? yeah still an issue
Monoman1 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Posted June 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, ttpt said: Also reporting some stuff, the push on shoving people around doesn't work if you also have the push comments turned on in sexist guards, I assume this is because the push stuff triggers from the vanilla pushing dialogue. Works ok for me and I use sexist guards too. Just doesn't trigger as often as there's a cooldown on it. I think the push mechanics are the same as push shouting just far less powerful. If you have something that makes you invulnerable to shouting it might not trigger. 30 minutes ago, slonez1 said: yeah still an issue Well that's good! Much easier track down something that's constant rather than a blip. So let me get this straight. It's a slaverun controlled town and you're set up to pay per level ? I'll have a look at it tomorrow.
slonez1 Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 45 minutes ago, Monoman1 said: Works ok for me and I use sexist guards too. Just doesn't trigger as often as there's a cooldown on it. I think the push mechanics are the same as push shouting just far less powerful. If you have something that makes you invulnerable to shouting it might not trigger. Well that's good! Much easier track down something that's constant rather than a blip. So let me get this straight. It's a slaverun controlled town and you're set up to pay per level ? I'll have a look at it tomorrow. I clean saved and reinstalled again and it's working now, so no issues!
Monoman1 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Posted June 18, 2018 3 hours ago, SpyVsPie said: I noticed that in this update it's no longer possible for me to try to lie to the guards about being able to afford the toll. If I have enough gold to afford it I get no dialogue options about it at all but if I go and buy some stuff until I'm under the toll amount I get the dialogue option to "negotiate". Was this an intentional change? I liked trying to lie haha. Had to check since it's not something I've tested in a while but I still get the lying dialog when I have enough gold...
Guest Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 hi there! loved the mod, but dont really want to use DD as not really into the bondage stuff. is there a chance you'll ever make a lite version with just the cum swallowing/spitting, caches and simply knock stuff? thanks for the mod in any case.
Monoman1 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Posted June 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Kira shadowstep said: hi there! loved the mod, but dont really want to use DD as not really into the bondage stuff. is there a chance you'll ever make a lite version with just the cum swallowing/spitting, caches and simply knock stuff? thanks for the mod in any case. Mmm, probably not, sorry. Older versions hadn't got the hard dependency for DDi but the soft link was giving a lot of people hassle. What I can do is add options to disable adding DDs. You'd still need to have DDi installed but would avoid having DDs. Bit of a PITA but it's the best I can do.
Guest Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, Monoman1 said: Mmm, probably not, sorry. Older versions hadn't got the hard dependency for DDi but the soft link was giving a lot of people hassle. What I can do is add options to disable adding DDs. You'd still need to have DDi installed but would avoid having DDs. Bit of a PITA but it's the best I can do. It's okay! I think your idea is a good one. Having the option to turn off certain features would be pretty cool. Thanks for considering it!
Soaryne Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 Love the mod updates. Would you be willing to add a kennel to all the major halls and give the same type of bondage gear the kennel put of the player on the female slaves? Question is the kennel keeper post to leave devious device items like the pet suit on you afterwards? Would you also be willing to add follower support for the kennel and simple knock armbinder one where the follower/s is set in the same bondage and strip like the player.
Monoman1 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Posted June 18, 2018 29 minutes ago, Soaryne said: Love the mod updates. Would you be willing to add a kennel to all the major halls and give the same type of bondage gear the kennel put of the player on the female slaves? Question is the kennel keeper post to leave devious device items like the pet suit on you afterwards? Would you also be willing to add follower support for the kennel and simple knock armbinder one where the follower/s is set in the same bondage and strip like the player. Thanks. A kennel for every walled city was my original plan. But creating the cell is a lot of work I've discovered. I've a new-found respect for world builders and all I did was copy an existing cell and move things around a bit. I might just add copies of the current kennel to other cities for the moment. The kennel keeper is supposed to remove the devices he equipped on you before you enter the kennel. But if you already had some stuff on you he will replace it with what you had on when you came in. The stuff he puts on you every time he rapes you though is yours to keep Follower support would be great. But it's tricky. Everyone uses different follower management mods and has different ideas of how many followers they bring with them. I will think about it though. 1
Huntrezz Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 I love this mod, i been wanting to make a build were i can make the prostitution mods more incentive to do( besides just being a big sloot :P) A question though. Is the begging for clothes an idea about if your character is naked, she must get clothes asap before rape, fines, slavery or jail? either steal clothes or some helpful soul gives them, yes? A suggestion, could a scenario were the player character is defeated, due to either armor breaking or losing in combat, then gets robbed of all her clothing and then is forced to run around Skyrim naked covering her naked self while desperately looking for clothes. The Dragonborn has to find clothes asap or suffer consequences for nudity (dialog that reflects this predicament from npcs would be awsome!) if all npcs could always react to the player character if naked with dialog reflecting this instead of just attacking because i'm their enemy or npcs farming instead of getting lewd ideas about the naked dragonborn. I hope the best for this mod, its an amazing idea.
Monoman1 Posted June 19, 2018 Author Posted June 19, 2018 11 hours ago, Huntrezz said: I love this mod, i been wanting to make a build were i can make the prostitution mods more incentive to do( besides just being a big sloot :P) A question though. Is the begging for clothes an idea about if your character is naked, she must get clothes asap before rape, fines, slavery or jail? either steal clothes or some helpful soul gives them, yes? A suggestion, could a scenario were the player character is defeated, due to either armor breaking or losing in combat, then gets robbed of all her clothing and then is forced to run around Skyrim naked covering her naked self while desperately looking for clothes. The Dragonborn has to find clothes asap or suffer consequences for nudity (dialog that reflects this predicament from npcs would be awsome!) if all npcs could always react to the player character if naked with dialog reflecting this instead of just attacking because i'm their enemy or npcs farming instead of getting lewd ideas about the naked dragonborn. I hope the best for this mod, its an amazing idea. Well since this is a survival orientated mod is more about not freezing to death. I know what you're talking about though. There's very little reaction to nudity both from Npcs and your character herself. It is something that bugs me but I'm not sure what to do about it. And it's complicated by mods that require you to be naked. (Conflicts)
kionee Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 37 minutes ago, Monoman1 said: Well since this is a survival orientated mod is more about not freezing to death. I know what you're talking about though. There's very little reaction to nudity both from Npcs and your character herself. It is something that bugs me but I'm not sure what to do about it. And it's complicated by mods that require you to be naked. (Conflicts) Sexist Guards - Adds some npc comments. As does the sadly abandoned The latter still work really well. Especially the fame system. The more well known you are, the more comments the npcs make.
Monoman1 Posted June 19, 2018 Author Posted June 19, 2018 1 hour ago, kionee said: Sexist Guards - Adds some npc comments. As does the sadly abandoned The latter still work really well. Especially the fame system. The more well known you are, the more comments the npcs make. You know about this mod right? It's one of survivals soft dependencies and is kind of the 'sequel' to MDQ. Doesn't do the small quests that MDQ does though. Just the fame system. Comments are great and all but real consequences would be better. I just don't know what they should be.
N.Gamma Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 I have a little improvement suggestion for your mod. If you ask someone for help, they can front your clothes as return. However, so far the NPC only takes away your chest armor which is on slot 32, which of course fits to the standard game. However, when you play with mods it's not something the npc also says: "I want ALL your clothes". You should add a lot more armor slots to this event.
Monoman1 Posted June 19, 2018 Author Posted June 19, 2018 As it is this only fires if you only have one set of clothes/armor for the body slot. You should see the ridiculous logic conditions just for the one slot. Logic in the CK is the reverse of the way I learned it and to be honest I have a very hard time understanding anything with more than one OR. Besides that point though. Would you give all your clothes in exchange for something so small? I think less people would be inclined to take the deal then.
PenBoozerX Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 I've been having a bunch of fun with this mod, kudos to you! The stash theft seems a bit over the top on prolonged play though. May I suggest a spell or marker or some mechanic to make chests lockable to make certain containers "safe" from theft that the vanilla has designed for player use as well? Such as the cabinets in your room at Winterhold, or chest next to your bed in thieves guild (you know, the rules says not to steal from a member!). A spell to make a random sack safe might be exploitable, but I'm sure people looking for survival experience in the first place do have the required self control not to abuse the ez mode button to make every barrel in Whiterun safe from thieves Question about bunking at a strangers house BTW, because I'm not sure if this is a bug or intended: Sometimes I ask to spend the night as someones place, but if I oversleep the NPCs "schedule" to move outside of the building, they will be outside while I'm gonna be stuck inside their house for the entire day because their front door is locked. Sometimes the NPC who let me in doesnt even come back the next night... likely stuck outside of their own house without a key? Kinda bummer having to reload and second guess their schedule every time so I wont get stuck in there. (unlock on console doesnt seem to do anything there) Though, this could also make an awesome minigame with some work. You bunk at strangers house, they decide having you around is too much fun, ignore their schedule, lock you in, have you as their plaything until you manage to pickpocket a key off of them to escape or if you fail, they'll just send you to Simple Slavery mod the next day or start SD+ slavery as your master. Just a thought
Monoman1 Posted June 19, 2018 Author Posted June 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, kiesu said: The stash theft seems a bit over the top on prolonged play though. May I suggest a spell or marker or some mechanic to make chests lockable to make certain containers "safe" from theft that the vanilla has designed for player use as well? Such as the cabinets in your room at Winterhold, or chest next to your bed in thieves guild (you know, the rules says not to steal from a member!). A spell to make a random sack safe might be exploitable, but I'm sure people looking for survival experience in the first place do have the required self control not to abuse the ez mode button to make every barrel in Whiterun safe from thieves I'm actually finding it almost too easy to find good spots but then I know the mechanics. I've only had stuff stolen from me once and that happened when I was stashing stuff as a patrol was passing by (No menu pausing). I guess you're not using hunterborn? Try turning 'container type matters' off in the Mcm and use 'Assess stash' power to check out places. 22 minutes ago, kiesu said: Question about bunking at a strangers house BTW, because I'm not sure if this is a bug or intended: Sometimes I ask to spend the night as someones place, but if I oversleep the NPCs "schedule" to move outside of the building, they will be outside while I'm gonna be stuck inside their house for the entire day because their front door is locked. Sometimes the NPC who let me in doesnt even come back the next night... likely stuck outside of their own house without a key? Kinda bummer having to reload and second guess their schedule every time so I wont get stuck in there. (unlock on console doesnt seem to do anything there) Though, this could also make an awesome minigame with some work. You bunk at strangers house, they decide having you around is too much fun, ignore their schedule, lock you in, have you as their plaything until you manage to pickpocket a key off of them to escape or if you fail, they'll just send you to Simple Slavery mod the next day or start SD+ slavery as your master. Just a thought That happened to me once. Figured it was just a glitch. I'll have to look into it more.
PenBoozerX Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Monoman1 said: I'm actually finding it almost too easy to find good spots but then I know the mechanics. I've only had stuff stolen from me once and that happened when I was stashing stuff as a patrol was passing by (No menu pausing). I guess you're not using hunterborn? Try turning 'container type matters' off in the Mcm and use 'Assess stash' power to check out places. I know about the middle-of-nowhere slashing, but... no hope to ever use vanilla stashes in public spaces? I'm so used to using the vanilla PC stash locations i find it weird stashing my excess valuables in a bush somewhere when my thieves guild family stronghold is literally on the other side of the wall. Rip my thieves guild RP i guess. oh well I'll manage
Soaryne Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 ideas for your mod. On the frostfall rescue beside of having it with only simple slavery and SD dream world outcomes. They not let it also have the normal outcome too but the player wake up in the kennel pet set or in rope collar 2 and rope armbinder naked or in the rope harness and if they accept the donation to the temple or get the inn keep firewood they remove the bindings. Also would you be willing to change the SD spriggan mask to a ring gag effect and another outcome for kynareth follower could be then walking up in one of the wildness outcome with a spriggan that take then as a host.
grdx9 Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Why dont you add like an animation when a npc slaps the pc ass so the pc stumbles or she falls to the floor, and also that the npc that slapped tha ass starts running, that would be funny hahah
Elenve Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Hi! Thanks for a great mod. To be honest, I can’t test it now, because my GPU was burned. But, can I make a suggestion? ? 1) Since you’re integrated RND-relations in your mode, I think it could be really cool to see a cum addiction and buff (don’t know what buff need to buff ?), that increased more and more after each “gulp ?” of her white reward, and debuff (Stamina and magic I think) that come stronger over time if character didn’t “eat” this thing long. 2) Since I cant test your mode now, I don’t know how it works, but I’m not a big fan of male escort of my character. Is it possible to turn this option off in MCM or create an alternative, for example, a blowjob or other type of sex to be allowed to leave city without escort? UPD: If it's already possible to turn off escort in MCM, an alternative of sex pay for city leaving could be good I think ☺️ Thanks! ?
Monoman1 Posted June 20, 2018 Author Posted June 20, 2018 20 hours ago, kiesu said: I know about the middle-of-nowhere slashing, but... no hope to ever use vanilla stashes in public spaces? I'm so used to using the vanilla PC stash locations i find it weird stashing my excess valuables in a bush somewhere when my thieves guild family stronghold is literally on the other side of the wall. Rip my thieves guild RP i guess. oh well I'll manage So there's no chance of any baddies in the thieves guild *cough* Mercer frey *cough* ? Why not just set Num of items to steal to zero in the Mcm? 16 hours ago, Soaryne said: ideas for your mod. On the frostfall rescue beside of having it with only simple slavery and SD dream world outcomes. They not let it also have the normal outcome too but the player wake up in the kennel pet set or in rope collar 2 and rope armbinder naked or in the rope harness and if they accept the donation to the temple or get the inn keep firewood they remove the bindings. Also would you be willing to change the SD spriggan mask to a ring gag effect and another outcome for kynareth follower could be then walking up in one of the wildness outcome with a spriggan that take then as a host. Good ideas. All the scenarios need expanding tbh. Time is the problem. 9 hours ago, grdx9 said: Why dont you add like an animation when a npc slaps the pc ass so the pc stumbles or she falls to the floor, and also that the npc that slapped tha ass starts running, that would be funny hahah Animating the player at the wrong time can cause unrecoverable weirdness in my experience. Running on the spot on the ground sideways. That kind of thing. Plus I don't want to interrupt the flow of the game too much. I find find things like that get old quickly when they happen too often. 1 hour ago, Elenve said: Hi! Thanks for a great mod. To be honest, I can’t test it now, because my GPU was burned. But, can I make a suggestion? ? 1) Since you’re integrated RND-relations in your mode, I think it could be really cool to see a cum addiction and buff (don’t know what buff need to buff ?), that increased more and more after each “gulp ?” of her white reward, and debuff (Stamina and magic I think) that come stronger over time if character didn’t “eat” this thing long. 2) Since I cant test your mode now, I don’t know how it works, but I’m not a big fan of male escort of my character. Is it possible to turn this option off in MCM or create an alternative, for example, a blowjob or other type of sex to be allowed to leave city without escort? UPD: If it's already possible to turn off escort in MCM, an alternative of sex pay for city leaving could be good I think ☺️ Thanks! ? 1. A cum inflation system (yet another one) and cum addiction is on my list of things I'd like to add. I would like to add race cum buffs like Fill her up has for some races. Like health regeneration for troll cum. Fire resistance for dark elf cum. Stuff like that. A lot of work though I think. 2. Escort can be any sex but you can set followers needed to leave to zero in the Mcm. There might still be dialogue but you should be able to leave without anyone.
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