Devious Devices SE

[leizar]

On 6/23/2019 at 7:46 PM, Pfiffy said:

SSE edit can't soft dependencies. To resolve them you have to add the mods as hard requirement. Usually those errors don't do any harm. My guess is that, if you track them down you will end up with race menu, HDT or mfg... 

 

All of those errors are under name idles. I just was making sure before deleting them (will see what happens). I assume that either idles were removed or the way it is handled has changed.

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[hompie]

On 6/23/2019 at 8:32 PM, Pfiffy said:

Not an easy one: You would have to check out what parts of DD are needed, extract them from the pack and install them seperatly.

 

Oh I already solved this a while back, should've mentioned it. What I did was just to extract the necessary esms and scripts from integration (and assets I think?), nothing more. And somehow it works.

[Pfiffy]

22 hours ago, leizar said:

All of those errors are under name idles. I just was making sure before deleting them (will see what happens). I assume that either idles were removed or the way it is handled has changed.

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Well... I will not make any edits to the ESMs. 

[leizar]

42 minutes ago, Pfiffy said:

Well... I will not make any edits to the ESMs. 

Of course any change to ESM should be done after serious consideration and major version change. As long as team is aware of them all is good. I deleted them though ? (whole property - is that how you call it?). Nothing crashed and animation play, same with Cursed Loot.

[Pfiffy]

13 minutes ago, leizar said:

Of course any change to ESM should be done after serious consideration and major version change. As long as team is aware of them all is good. I deleted them though ? (whole property - is that how you call it?). Nothing crashed and animation play, same with Cursed Loot.

Well, I have to do a lot of updates. After I'm done with the easy and fast part (the anim packs) I want to get the fomods rebuilt. @Kythanaoffered his help with that. Maybe some of the errors solve themself, if everythig gets into the right position. 

[leizar]

Will keep an eye for update then.

[JimmyCow]

I really liked the quests.

 

Are there plans to include them in the future, etc? I would hope there's a way to get the quests again. I've never finished them and liked it.

[wooby6]

DD is completely incompatible with iequip https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/27008

 

specificity it allows you to un-equip ANY DD item even if its locked, the message box doesn't show up at all

[Nepro]

9 minutes ago, wooby6 said:

DD is completely incompatible with iequip https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/27008

 

specificity it allows you to un-equip ANY DD item even if its locked, the message box doesn't show up at all

You can add armors and outfits to the quene with Iequip? 

[G9ai]

On 6/27/2019 at 3:47 AM, axtoned said:

for anyone having the error i mentioned above

this weirdly worked for me even though i used this the last time too.

now my TreasureHunterWhore mod is not working anymore. dunno if thats related here

[Skata20]

On 6/16/2019 at 9:19 PM, zarantha said:

There's a 3rd download with no text on the downloads link. that's it.

 

Or you can use the new(er) 4.2 versions here. DDa doesn't need updates anymore.

DDa3.0SE:  https://mega.nz/#!SFJTRbwY!eBqmEUCWkiEiwv8uscb_QabNcd44Xkc5opCG3gu-7b0

DDi4.2SE: https://mega.nz/#!rJBSzY7Z!wUMb9-0N__WAVH_0uIZwApMXmeimmHJdwsnFe_2SOkI

DDx4.2SE: https://mega.nz/#!qJhV1YbQ!XaLB261Wpka0xn2jDqAqypc9dzlcvcI18d7_3dhn9EQ

DDi dll (skyrim 1.5.73 skse64 2.0.15): https://mega.nz/#!uRhFVQLA!g3DS1YDCJ0yjq1GBxSp4t480_KeXct7mFwAlbVQIMXo

DD Hotfix: https://mega.nz/#!SRJmRagK!tj91HO0PWKoW0KocrfKkI3IZQPxTzvRr4eoMSBfjEcs

 

If you're on 1.5.80 / SKSE 2.0.1.6  there's a new DDi dll a few posts up.

 

Hello! It's my first time trying DD. Do I have to do anything with the hotfix, like moving in a folder or do I just install it and let it overwrite?

I use MO2.

EDIT: It just overwrites the assets, so ignore that...

 

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm is not in form 44... I fixed it in Wrye Bash, just wanted to let people know in case they don't.

[wooby6]

8 hours ago, Nepro said:

You can add armors and outfits to the quene with Iequip? 

you can not. but due to the way iequip handles the inventory it causes the DD messagebox to not show resulting no devices being locked onto the player

[Nepro]

1 hour ago, wooby6 said:

you can not. but due to the way iequip handles the inventory it causes the DD messagebox to not show resulting no devices being locked onto the player

It must be something else I just did brief test with bunch of items from Devious Devices Extended. DD messageboxes appear properly and using iEquip hotkeys does not lock devious devices on you.

Active Mod Files:

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  Hearthfires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp  [Version 4.1.8a]
06  LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
07  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.62]
08  SexLabAroused.esm  [Version 2.9]
09  ZaZAnimationPack.esm
0A  Devious Devices - Assets.esm  [Version 2.8.3]
0B  Devious Devices - Integration.esm
0C  Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
0D  SkyUI_SE.esp
0E  RaceMenu.esp
0F  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
10  TimingIsEverything.esp
11  UIExtensions.esp
12  AddItemMenuSE.esp
13  Devious Devices For Him.esp
14  XPMSE.esp
15  FNIS.esp
16  Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp
17  Water for ENB (Wavy Rivers).esp
18  Giants.esp
19  AdoringFan.esp
1A  iHUD.esp
1B  iEquip.esp
1C  BadEnds.esp
1D  FMEA Skyrim.esp
1E  SexLabDefeat.esp
1F  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 4.0.9]
20  Open Cities Skyrim.esp  [Version 3.1.3]
21  BadEnds Experimental OCS.esp

 

Do you use maybe mod like All Gear Up, Ecotone Dual Sheath or Visible Favorite Gear?

[zarantha]

10 hours ago, G9ai said:

this weirdly worked for me even though i used this the last time too.

now my TreasureHunterWhore mod is not working anymore. dunno if thats related here

Treasure hunter whore doesn't have an SE compatible dll, and never has yet. Any part of the mod that references or needs the dll won't work. Some parts do work - i was able to get kidnapped and the vampire put me on a quest. but distance never changed and i had no idea on where to go.  You may have just hit the breaking point for it.

 

The mod author is aware, but it probably won't happen for a while. this is what he said:

Yes, the SKSE code needs to be updated for SSE. This was an SKSE addition, not something the SKSE team cooked up, so there's likely no official work on it, and I haven't modded SSE, so not sure exactly what needs to be done for SKSE conversions... 

 

if i knew how to compile dlls, i'd help. but sadly, that's still on my 'i need to learn this' list with no eta.

[zarantha]

On 6/24/2019 at 8:43 AM, Orion0001 said:

If you are having the same problam, go to Data\CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderGroups then find your outfit group and open it as a text file, you will see <Group name= ... > on top you just have to change group name to CBBE.

Interesting, I thought that was just the way these things were.

 

@Pfiffy @Roggvir did you see this? Might be the reason for some of the clipping. Not everything seems to be in the four groups I found, so may take a little more digging to get them all.

[wooby6]

1 hour ago, Nepro said:

It must be something else I just did brief test with bunch of items from Devious Devices Extended. DD messageboxes appear properly and using iEquip hotkeys does not lock devious devices on you.

Active Mod Files:

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00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  Hearthfires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp  [Version 4.1.8a]
06  LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
07  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.62]
08  SexLabAroused.esm  [Version 2.9]
09  ZaZAnimationPack.esm
0A  Devious Devices - Assets.esm  [Version 2.8.3]
0B  Devious Devices - Integration.esm
0C  Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
0D  SkyUI_SE.esp
0E  RaceMenu.esp
0F  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
10  TimingIsEverything.esp
11  UIExtensions.esp
12  AddItemMenuSE.esp
13  Devious Devices For Him.esp
14  XPMSE.esp
15  FNIS.esp
16  Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp
17  Water for ENB (Wavy Rivers).esp
18  Giants.esp
19  AdoringFan.esp
1A  iHUD.esp
1B  iEquip.esp
1C  BadEnds.esp
1D  FMEA Skyrim.esp
1E  SexLabDefeat.esp
1F  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 4.0.9]
20  Open Cities Skyrim.esp  [Version 3.1.3]
21  BadEnds Experimental OCS.esp

 

 

 

Do you use maybe mod like All Gear Up, Ecotone Dual Sheath or Visible Favorite Gear?

figured it out load order issue

[Skata20]

Guys since I have never used Devious Devices... Does it have random encounters or I have to actually do something because I have no idea how to "play" with this mod xD

[Pfiffy]

2 hours ago, Skata20 said:

Guys since I have never used Devious Devices... Does it have random encounters or I have to actually do something because I have no idea how to "play" with this mod xD

Well, this is the stuff that you need for playing with the other DD mods.....

 

[Skata20]

4 hours ago, Pfiffy said:

Well, this is the stuff that you need for playing with the other DD mods.....

 

Ah so it's like the SexLab Framework, gotcha!

What mods would you recommend?

[Pfiffy]

3 hours ago, Skata20 said:

Ah so it's like the SexLab Framework, gotcha!

What mods would you recommend?

If you want to test out all the features try Devious coursed loot...

 

[KitsuneNoMeiji]

I've run across a bit of an oddity. Want to know if someone knows a fix for this, hopefully so. Anyways, the issue I am faced with is devious devices do not form properly on the CBBE body, despite using BodySlide's Batch Build to create morphs for them. Below is a list of my load order, followed by a few pics showing what I am describing. In the pics, I am wearing shock nipple piercings and the Black Ebonite Chastity Harness. What can I do to fix this? Did I do something wrong with BodySlide?? I've tried using BodySlide to fix this multiple times to no avail. Through a couple of tests, I've discovered that using Body Morph options in RaceMenu causes even more oddities to occur. For instance, when I make the breasts bigger, the nipple piercings move closer to the body, clipping through the breasts. When I make the breasts smaller, they move further from the body, hovering in the air. It almost seems like there are mismatched values... is this the cause?

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     Heels Sound.esm
  7  7     SexLab.esm
  8  8     SexLabAroused.esm
  9  9     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 10  a     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 11  b     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
254 FE   0 AnimatedHarvesting.esl
 12  c     SkyUI_SE.esp
 13  d     CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
 14  e     CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
 15  f     CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
 16 10     FNIS.esp
 17 11     [COCO]KDA_Ahri_Full.esp
 18 12     CBBE.esp
 19 13     RaceMenu.esp
 20 14     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 21 15     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 22 16     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 23 17     XPMSE.esp
 24 18     KS Hairdo's.esp
 25 19     Character Creation Overhaul.esp
 26 1a     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
 27 1b     The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
 28 1c     UNP Undies.esp
 29 1d     DW.esp
 30 1e     Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp
 31 1f     SexLabDefeat.esp
 32 20     FNISSexyMove.esp
 33 21     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

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[unmog]

The bodyslide files are still being made, but mine didn't clip that bad. Still what I did is go into bodyslide and make a custom slider for my body, then I used that bodyslide set for all my stuff. Worked for the majority of things, there was a few I had to tweek after that individually. So, thats what I'd suggest. Either that or you can wait for the new converted body slide files, they've been working on it for awhile so... I think it should be sometime soonish, maybe the next month or two? But I don't know when that would be really since I'm Ive just began looking into it.

[KitsuneNoMeiji]

1 hour ago, unmog said:

Still what I did is go into bodyslide and make a custom slider for my body, then I used that bodyslide set for all my stuff.

I don't get what you mean. How do I do what you are referencing? I'd rather not wait for the converted BodySlide files as I don't know how long that'll be.

[unmog]

7 hours ago, KitsuneNoMeiji said:

I don't get what you mean. How do I do what you are referencing? I'd rather not wait for the converted BodySlide files as I don't know how long that'll be.

So when you're in the game you open body slide right, and for instance, you go to the harness. You look on your character where it clips. Then you go back to body slide and open the preview and zoom in on that area, say the belly. Scroll down on the list of sliders on the right and go to belly or torso etc. Using the preview, see which slider moves the area in question. Make some changes you think would work, and then build it. Back in the game just take off the harness and put it back on to reload the updated outfit to see if it clips. If so, rinse and repeat going back from bodyslide to the game using your character as a real world model.

 

It works easiest on characters with a max or min weight set, but if your character is somewhere in the middle its better (and more professional) to instead have two test characters... one with the weight slider all the way to the left (skinny, smaller, etc) and one all the way to the right. (bigger boobs, ass, etc) They can be new throwaway characters, it doesnt matter, I use Live Another Life so it's no inconvenience to make another one real quick. Anyway, load up say the skinny one first and adjust the sliders on the left for the skinny body, then edit the fat one and adjust the sliders on the right for it. When you've built both the way you like it, load your middle weight character and see how well it fits in game. The preview option has a slider to change between skinny and fat, I just find it better to do it in game.

 

Another option you can do if something isn't weighted right is open it in outfit studio, click file in the upper left, then click "load reference" and load up a dummy example of your body with the item you're adjusting. Mine is just cbbe with physics. With the dummy body loaded up, save it in outfit studio and close out, ya just wanted the manican. Go back to bodyslide and preview the changes on the manican. When you're done with the bodysliders, save the changes, open it again in outfit studio, delete the body reference body, go back to bodyslide, change it away from and back to the outfit your editing so it updates the outfit without the body, and save the bodyslide again without the body. Go in game, and see how well it fits~ rinse and repeat.

 

If that doesn't work you may need to go into outfit studio and mess with the mesh itself. Sometimes the sliders aren't done right, I've had things that seemed reversed for instance, annoying. I can show you a more in depth example tho if you want. I started all this crazyness because I liked the transparent zipsuit, but it clipped badly and the dummy body it uses as a reference [the one you can see inside the zipsuit] was out of date and didn't match my body. So when I would put it on and take it off, my whole body would change. I have ocd, so it bugged the shit out of me. I ALSO didn't like the glove parts around the hands since anytime I would wear an armbinder the actual hands would disappear but not the transparent gloves, so I'd have gloves sticking out through my armbinder. So I got rid of the reference body it was using, uploaded the new cbbe with physics one, adjusted it in outfit studio so the suit looked "tighter" and fit better, deleted the gloves, and then did minor adjustments to it in bodyslide.

 

In the end it looks like this now

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while in game it looks like this 

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That picture may be darker for you than it is for me, I have a mod that changes the environment usually ending up making Skyrim a little darker overall, so my gamma is up a bit.

 

Anyway, not bad if I say so myself, especially when I can just make a huge batch build for new armors etc and they all just work. I know the elbowbinder is clipping some in that picture which is what I was trying to work on at the time. I already have the armbinder fitted fine just have the elbow binder left. Fun fact, I couldn;t find any bodyslide files for the elbow binder and painting new weights for it entirely from scratch to make new bodysliders is a bit beyond my wheelhouse currently. So until I find a bodyslider for elbowbinders it's just gonna have to clip I guess, I figure I'll just use normal arm binders until then instead.

The point is, since I did a skin tight whole body outfit, the settings I used in bodyslide for it made the rest of my outfits easier since I could just use the same settings for everything else in a huge batch. Anything else like some gloves or boots or whatever that clips a tiny bit, I can just make tweeks in game until the clipping is taken care of, build, and go on to the next item. If I really wanted to be crazy I could save new sliders for each item I tweek... but its more for my personal not public use, so as long as it works for my game its fine, which is what bodyslide is really all about anyway. I guess I could upload the final results if people wanted to use my body... but then I'd feel like I'd have to do a bunch of support online helping people with questions all the time and I'm not sure that;s something I wanna do right now~ I just wanna play Skyrim again finally ?

[VOYAG]

after the recent update the DD mod triigger alot of random crash 

mostly fast travel to certain location