Devious Devices SE

[Hippeus]

How can I tell which Bodyslide files to use when batch building. It’s showing two of the exact same one. I installed it just like this.

 

DDA

DDI

DDX

Updated DLL runtime

Updated Bodyslide files

Then I know I install hotfix afterwards

[zarantha]

29 minutes ago, Hippeus said:

How can I tell which Bodyslide files to use when batch building. It’s showing two of the exact same one. I installed it just like this.

Compare the slidergroups from the bodyslide patch (left) and DDx (right). The patch added the groups with the space, so use those.

 

[Hippeus]

4 hours ago, zarantha said:

Compare the slidergroups from the bodyslide patch (left) and DDx (right). The patch added the groups with the space, so use those.

 

thank you!

[Starphyre]

Hey, zarantha. Thought I'd come and bug you here too.

 

this is a relatively minor issue to me, but it's resisted my efforts to fix it long enough that I'm perturbed.

 

FNES sexy walk is breaking the bound walking animation for NPCs. I've tried multiple times to get it to load before DDa, and vortex keeps saying it's a cyclic reference, which leaves me scratching my head, cause I don't see any reference between them pre-existing.  Any hint on what I might be able to do to fix this? ( aside disabling sexy walk)

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, Starphyre said:

Hey, zarantha. Thought I'd come and bug you here too.

 

this is a relatively minor issue to me, but it's resisted my efforts to fix it long enough that I'm perturbed.

 

FNES sexy walk is breaking the bound walking animation for NPCs. I've tried multiple times to get it to load before DDa, and vortex keeps saying it's a cyclic reference, which leaves me scratching my head, cause I don't see any reference between them pre-existing.  Any hint on what I might be able to do to fix this? ( aside disabling sexy walk)

Ok, I loaded up vortex again. I'm not getting any conflict between DDa and FNIS Sexy Move SE, even when I set a rule on the mod page so DDa loads after Sexy Move. If you view the cyclic reference, what's it look like? sounds like you've got at least three mods, each overwriting each other.

 

You can click through to see what it is, here's a simple example (I've seen it look like spaghetti before):

Click show

 

Click the link

 

Note the arrows and correct so they aren't going in a circle. You can right click on a line and tell it to flip, which is a lot better than when I last used it.

[Starphyre]

I don't know how to get the triangle image you showed. Here's what I've got.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wv1dhr9nxdbnte/conflict 1.png?dl=0

 

and 

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ufj7azvdgj9jhyl/conflict 2.png?dl=0

 

 

Edit: Obviously I don't know how to make the images show in my posts either

 

Edit2:  I noticed upon further review, I was setting the rule on the plugin page, and it looks like you did it on the mod page. I duplicated that and it appeared to work, but the esp is still loading after DDa even  after sorting.

 

I guess I can run to a bunch of different taverns and see what bound girls are doing in game though.

[Twycross448]

Small question: when using the linked DD 4.2 packs from this thread and batch building the stuff in Bodyslide, the transparent catsuit and the breastyoke seem to not get converted properly. The outfit itself is changed, but the reference body they are build on stays at the base CBBE shape. And yes, I am using the newest DD DCL Bodyslide file I found here.

Is this an error on my end or are those not yet correctly ported to CBBE SE?

[zarantha]

11 hours ago, Starphyre said:

I don't know how to get the triangle image you showed. Here's what I've got.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wv1dhr9nxdbnte/conflict 1.png?dl=0

 

and 

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ufj7azvdgj9jhyl/conflict 2.png?dl=0

 

 

Edit: Obviously I don't know how to make the images show in my posts either

 

Edit2:  I noticed upon further review, I was setting the rule on the plugin page, and it looks like you did it on the mod page. I duplicated that and it appeared to work, but the esp is still loading after DDa even  after sorting.

 

I guess I can run to a bunch of different taverns and see what bound girls are doing in game though.

I did something stupid switching between vortex and mo and i'm fixing my mods right now. I try not to force the plugins to sort in a specific order unless there's something specific documented by the mod author. Load last is not enough. I'll check again after fixing my mods.

[zarantha]

5 hours ago, mobius48 said:

It seems I am missing something to make stuff like chains move around. They just stay static and when I want to equip the prisoner chains for example, my game crashes.

It's not the first time I am installing DD, just the first time for SSE. Is there some secret HDT file or something I missed?

 

HDT PE is not supported in SE, we have HDT SMP. The two are not interchangeable. And the DD stuff is still not working as well as it used to in LE, because those of us working on the conversion are not mod authors, we're just users who are helping to get the stuff working in SE. The best we can do is edit, and that's not enough to completely fix the chains.

 

If you don't want to deal with the whole HDT setup right now, install DDHOTFIX to fix the issue with crashing due to HDT items. The hotfix needs to be installed after you run bodyslide so it will overwrite the heretic meshes. It will not make the chains connect together though. That's a whole 'nother story.

The Hotfix: https://mega.nz/#!SRJmRagK!tj91HO0PWKoW0KocrfKkI3IZQPxTzvRr4eoMSBfjEcs

 

 

You can download HDT from the chinese site where the author hosts it - you will need to make an account and post once to download. Chrome will translate the page for you so you can do this. The post doesn't have to be long, something like 'thank you' is sufficient. It will not be posted in LL or the Nexus due to author permissions.

 

hdtSSEFramework - http://www.9damao.com/thread-61877-1-1.html

hdtSSEPhysics - http://www.9damao.com/thread-61878-1-1.html

HDT SSE High Heels High-heeled system (hdtSSEHH) - http://www.9damao.com/thread-39231-1-1.html

 

Only the first two are needed for HDT. They get installed to \SKSE\Plugins

After getting HDT to work in general, there's several patches for the DD stuff.  Here's what I posted in the DCL thread. You do not need DCL, or the DCL patches if you don't want them.

On 5/29/2019 at 1:52 AM, zarantha said:

DCL 8.3 [link updated to point to the fomod instead of my personal install]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hoDRTh5zVyTEddr8Kum-ewE-4UBgFp05/view?usp=sharing

DCL HDT and scripts

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vtzSuRKbvL0l-WjBT5nWFDqzjKHqVUwC/view?usp=sharing

DCL facegen files (for Chloe quest)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18xHGY1S0BNKe1RE4ji47xqUESsBmFEmU/view?usp=sharing

DD HDT

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IrRCPoGVRLRQFJYJyVT2VvbisEoFHbdh/view?usp=sharing

ZAZ HDT

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1prYuwDJcaIdQqcB04Yax46Un926GiIEV/view?usp=sharing

ZAZ Bodyslide breastropeextreme fix

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1shaDnP8w6Z2SQ4KmPa4Xtn-hlJIbiU7c/view?usp=sharing

 

For people resharing these links - DISCLAIMER!!!!

Please be aware the HDT patches are done to prevent crashes and to simply get HDT SMP enabled. The chains should all have physics now, but there are visual gaps where the chains appear broken. We've done our best, but we are not experts on creating and editing nifs. We don't know why the meshes appear broken in game in SE and look fine in LE. These files are provided as is. I will try to fix it if you can confirm something is still crashing for you, but I can't get everything to look like it's hooked together. Pfiffy and I have tried for months.
 

For the Heretic stuff - if you delete the Bodyslide information for the boots and gloves, and install at least the DD HDT, you should not need DDHOTFIX.

DELETE FROM DDX for SE (and any from any other DD SE bodyslide patches)
\CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_HarnessBoots01HDT.osp
\CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_HarnessBoots02HDT.osp
\CalienteTools\BodySlide\SliderSets\DDX_Heretical\DDXHR_HarnessGlovesHDT.osp 

\CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_HarnessBoots01HDT
\CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_HarnessBoots02HDT
\CalienteTools\BodySlide\ShapeData\DDX_Heretical\HR_HarnessGlovesHDT

A user name Gromilla (he can usually be found on the HDT SMP thread) has the files on his  mediafire if you don't want to use chrome to translate the page: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7hbb9ti7yltvt/Skyrim_Stuff

[zarantha]

4 hours ago, Twycross448 said:

Small question: when using the linked DD 4.2 packs from this thread and batch building the stuff in Bodyslide, the transparent catsuit and the breastyoke seem to not get converted properly. The outfit itself is changed, but the reference body they are build on stays at the base CBBE shape. And yes, I am using the newest DD DCL Bodyslide file I found here.

Is this an error on my end or are those not yet correctly ported to CBBE SE?

Some items in the CBBE SE bodyslide patch aren't converted yet. I don't have a list. There is someone  who's working on going through everything and converting it to CBBE SE, but it's not finished yet. If it's really bugging you, you can change the reference yourself with the conversion tutorial here: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/14080

[Twycross448]

@zarantha

 

No, it's okay. I just wanted to know if it was a mistake on my end or not. Thank you for answering that.

[RichterQ87]

Okay so I finally got this to work completely after installing all the fixes, latest versions, bodyslide generating etc.

 

Everything except for one thing; the chains make a rattling noise constantly, even when I'm not moving. The chains are broken, but apparently that's normal. The physics seem to work for them. But the noise just wont stop. Is it meant to be that way, or is this a bug?

 

Edit: Figured it out. The mod Sexual Fame Framework was making me use a 'shame' idle animation where the character is covering herself which made the chains think I'm constantly moving. Disabling it fixed the issue.

[hompie]

When I install it just crashes after loading a save. I really don't care about any of the assets or animations even. I just want the functionality from the Pet Collar mod which says it requires this. Any way to minimalistically get pet collar to work without all these unnecessary (for me) assets and scripts and stuff?

 

EDIT: solved this myself. I only extracted the necessary esms for pet collar to function, and also extracted the scripts folder for good measure, and now it works apparently.

[andres9716]

Hey i'm having a bug, all female npc, including companions, are walking like they where tied up, or hopping if i select that option, any idea?

I have dd at the bottom of the load order

Thanks for any help

[Thost]

Hello, I too have an issue... I've ran Bodyslide several times, trying many different outputs and presets but I can't get Devious Devices to work properly.

 

I have CBBE Slim body installed and the Femboy Race. The thing is, building outfits either with CBBE Slim preset or Femboy preset doesn't change anything. I don't understand why, it might be a noob error but I can't figure it out.

Also I saw that there is a DD - Femboy mod but it's only on Skyrim, not on SE. Would it work anyway?

 

Here's what happens, and it stays like this no matter how and how many times I run Bodyslide:

[aaa999]

On 6/4/2019 at 1:33 PM, andres9716 said:

Hey i'm having a bug, all female npc, including companions, are walking like they where tied up, or hopping if i select that option, any idea?

I have dd at the bottom of the load order

Thanks for any help

 

3 hours ago, Thost said:

Hello, I too have an issue... I've ran Bodyslide several times, trying many different outputs and presets but I can't get Devious Devices to work properly.

 

I have CBBE Slim body installed and the Femboy Race. The thing is, building outfits either with CBBE Slim preset or Femboy preset doesn't change anything. I don't understand why, it might be a noob error but I can't figure it out.

Also I saw that there is a DD - Femboy mod but it's only on Skyrim, not on SE. Would it work anyway?

 

Here's what happens, and it stays like this no matter how and how many times I run Bodyslide:

bodyslide is to help outfits/equipment fit onto your favourite body and doesn't affect animations. you need to run FNIS everytime you do anything with mods that have animations to get them to work right.

[Thost]

59 minutes ago, aaa999 said:

 

bodyslide is to help outfits/equipment fit onto your favourite body and doesn't affect animations. you need to run FNIS everytime you do anything with mods that have animations to get them to work right.

It's not a FNIS problem. I know when to run it and the animations work just fine but as you can see and read in my previous post the outfits won't fit to the body I'm using no matter how many times and no matter which presets I use in bodyslide. 

[andres9716]

12 hours ago, aaa999 said:

 

bodyslide is to help outfits/equipment fit onto your favourite body and doesn't affect animations. you need to run FNIS everytime you do anything with mods that have animations to get them to work right.

not a fnis problem either

[ianinuk]

On 6/4/2019 at 12:56 PM, hompie said:

When I install it just crashes after loading a save. I really don't care about any of the assets or animations even. I just want the functionality from the Pet Collar mod which says it requires this. Any way to minimalistically get pet collar to work without all these unnecessary (for me) assets and scripts and stuff?

you  will probably have to remove a slal pack or 2 or sexymove if you use it you have too many animations im guessing

[Thost]

Well now nothing is showing up on my fresh character. Invisible gear. I'm out of ideas:

 

- I ran Bodyslide with several presets, none of them made the devices appear (Built bodies and Outfits, without group filters, with group filters, outfit by outfit, batch built in a seperate folder then copy/paste it)

 

- I reinstalled the Devious Devices mods (yes all of them, DD/DDi/DDa/DDx and also tried with the Femboy DD pack)

 

- Tried to manually copy/paste the meshes folder since I read that invisible gear could be because of missing meshes

 

- Reinstalled Bodyslide and Outfit Studio, ran them from MO2 and from the Caliente Tools folder

 

- Ran FNIS and LOOT after each and every step mentionned above

 

- NifScanned, checked textures, nothing wrong

 

Game behaviour: MCM loads all the mods correctly, the animations work well (I look like I'm wearing the restrictive gear), sounds work perfectly too as do the dialogs. Nothing is showing on my character but the armor is equipped (Schlong is hidden by the belt). 

 

I know a lot of people had this issue, I tried every single fix I could find and none of them did the trick. Is it because of the Femboy Race? What can I do then?

 

EDIT: I can perfectly see the outfits (meshes and textures) when opening them in outfit studios, and I can also see them in the inventory but not on my character. Is there a step I'm missing to make these work on a custom race?

[andres9716]

13 hours ago, andres9716 said:

not a fnis problem either

I find it to be a DD expansion problem, now even male character when stationary appear like they had an arm binder and when walking is like they had a yoke on

[zarantha]

On 6/5/2019 at 6:31 AM, Thost said:

Hello, I too have an issue... I've ran Bodyslide several times, trying many different outputs and presets but I can't get Devious Devices to work properly.

 

I have CBBE Slim body installed and the Femboy Race. The thing is, building outfits either with CBBE Slim preset or Femboy preset doesn't change anything. I don't understand why, it might be a noob error but I can't figure it out.

Also I saw that there is a DD - Femboy mod but it's only on Skyrim, not on SE. Would it work anyway?

 

Here's what happens, and it stays like this no matter how and how many times I run Bodyslide:

this is the cover animation - it's an option in the dcl mcm, it plays when you're naked. i don't know if the prisoner chains count as naked, but looks like it does. i normally turn it off.

[zarantha]

On 6/4/2019 at 8:33 AM, andres9716 said:

Hey i'm having a bug, all female npc, including companions, are walking like they where tied up, or hopping if i select that option, any idea?

I have dd at the bottom of the load order

Thanks for any help

do you have sexy moves installed? looks like it can mess up the walk animations. Try reading through the posts on this page.

 

[zarantha]

14 hours ago, Thost said:

Well now nothing is showing up on my fresh character. Invisible gear. I'm out of ideas:

 

- I ran Bodyslide with several presets, none of them made the devices appear (Built bodies and Outfits, without group filters, with group filters, outfit by outfit, batch built in a seperate folder then copy/paste it)

 

- I reinstalled the Devious Devices mods (yes all of them, DD/DDi/DDa/DDx and also tried with the Femboy DD pack)

 

- Tried to manually copy/paste the meshes folder since I read that invisible gear could be because of missing meshes

 

- Reinstalled Bodyslide and Outfit Studio, ran them from MO2 and from the Caliente Tools folder

 

- Ran FNIS and LOOT after each and every step mentionned above

 

- NifScanned, checked textures, nothing wrong

 

Game behaviour: MCM loads all the mods correctly, the animations work well (I look like I'm wearing the restrictive gear), sounds work perfectly too as do the dialogs. Nothing is showing on my character but the armor is equipped (Schlong is hidden by the belt). 

 

I know a lot of people had this issue, I tried every single fix I could find and none of them did the trick. Is it because of the Femboy Race? What can I do then?

 

EDIT: I can perfectly see the outfits (meshes and textures) when opening them in outfit studios, and I can also see them in the inventory but not on my character. Is there a step I'm missing to make these work on a custom race?

invisible gear is almost always and issue with bodyslide not being run. Since you have reinstalled and you should have rerun bodyslide after the reinstall, not sure what else it could be.

If you start a new game, are the devices still invisible?

[zarantha]

On 6/4/2019 at 7:56 AM, hompie said:

When I install it just crashes after loading a save. I really don't care about any of the assets or animations even. I just want the functionality from the Pet Collar mod which says it requires this. Any way to minimalistically get pet collar to work without all these unnecessary (for me) assets and scripts and stuff?

No, you can't remove stuff from this mod without breaking it, and we have no way to know what functions and assests pet collar needs. You'll need to remove some slal packs, enough animations will cause you to ctd.