Devious Devices SE

[TRoclodyte]

@LG117No I'm not on VR

[Fozzoul]

Dunno if this is the right place to put this but im having a really strange problem with Devious devices and bodyslide.

 

While naked the body scales right and has physics, while wearing LITTERALY any other armor from both vanilla and any other mod, the body scales correctly and has physics. But devious devices just flat out refuses to scale right and/or have physics. 

 

Basically what i mean by scaling wrong is that it doesnt scale at all. It remains the default body size.

 

Now here's where it gets even weirder tho... If i scale my naked bodys breasts to say twice the normal size, then they get bigger while naked.

When i then equip a devious devices armor they go back to the default size, but then when i scale the breast size DOWN while wearing that armor the breasts get bigger as long as i wear that armor. When i then take it off again my naked breasts are pretty much flat like pancakes because they got scaled down too.

 

Ive been fiddling around with load orders for god knows how long and i just cant seem to get it to work. Is anyone else having this problem?

[lax4ever]

1 hour ago, Fozzoul said:

Dunno if this is the right place to put this but im having a really strange problem with Devious devices and bodyslide.

 

While naked the body scales right and has physics, while wearing LITTERALY any other armor from both vanilla and any other mod, the body scales correctly and has physics. But devious devices just flat out refuses to scale right and/or have physics. 

 

Basically what i mean by scaling wrong is that it doesnt scale at all. It remains the default body size.

 

Now here's where it gets even weirder tho... If i scale my naked bodys breasts to say twice the normal size, then they get bigger while naked.

When i then equip a devious devices armor they go back to the default size, but then when i scale the breast size DOWN while wearing that armor the breasts get bigger as long as i wear that armor. When i then take it off again my naked breasts are pretty much flat like pancakes because they got scaled down too.

 

Ive been fiddling around with load orders for god knows how long and i just cant seem to get it to work. Is anyone else having this problem?

Sounds like your bodyslide build was not done correctly. You are going to want to make sure you have run it properly.

[Fozzoul]

7 hours ago, lax4ever said:

Sounds like your bodyslide build was not done correctly. You are going to want to make sure you have run it properly.

Well, the thing is, since every other armor works perfectly i feel like im doing it right and devious devices just doesnt wanna play with me. I have gotten it to work a while back, but that was before many mods were updated, problem is if i go back to those versions then everything else might break...

 

Does your devious devices work with all the new versions of sexlab and such?

 

edit: Also, if it works, could you send a printscreen of your load order? Im thinking thats where the problem lies as i once actually managed to get the physics to work while throwing stuff around at random. I then lost them again as i tried to fix the scaling and never managed to get em back...

 

Thanks for the reply btw!

 

[Raggar613]

So after putting this into vortex, i get this message

"Some of the enabled plugins depend on others that are not plugged in:

devious devices integration.esm depends on devious devices assets.esm"

However i downloaded everything required for this mod, did i miss something?

[lax4ever]

Spoiler

List numbers are rough install order

**Only do this if installing DCL

Assumes installation of:

• 2) Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266

• 3) CBBE

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/198

 

Devious Devices:

• 1) SKSE64 (Current build in SE is 2.0.15 with runtime being 1.5.73)

http://skse.silverlock.org/

• 1a) Also recommended, Papyrus Scripting Utility - Needs SKSE

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/13048

• 4) FNIS

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/3038

• 5) Bodyslide and Outfit Studio

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/201

• 6) RaceMenu - Needs SKSE

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/19080

• 7) SkyUI - Needs SKSE

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/12604

• 8 ) XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended - XPMSSE - Needs SKSE, FNIS, and RaceMenu above - Run FNIS after install

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1988

• 8a) Not needed, but there is additional CBP Physics with Collisions available - Needs SKSE, FNIS, and XPMSSE above

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/21224

• 9) Sexlab Framework SE v1.63 Beta 6 (Is this the most recent?) - Needs SKSE and SkyUI - Run FNIS after Install

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/91861-sexlab-framework-se-163-beta-6-march-19th-2019/

• 11) Sexlab Aroused Redux (Is this the most recent?) - Needs SKSE, SkyUI and Sexlab Frameworks above  - Run FNIS after Install

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5482-sexlab-aroused-redux-sse-version-29/

• 12) DDa 3.0SE (Main DD file)

https://mega.nz/#!SFJTRbwY!eBqmEUCWkiEiwv8uscb_QabNcd44Xkc5opCG3gu-7b0

• 13) DDi 4.2SE (DD Integration)

https://mega.nz/#!rJBSzY7Z!wUMb9-0N__WAVH_0uIZwApMXmeimmHJdwsnFe_2SOkI

• 14) DDx 4.2SE (DD Expansion)

https://mega.nz/#!qJhV1YbQ!XaLB261Wpka0xn2jDqAqypc9dzlcvcI18d7_3dhn9EQ

• 15) DDi DLL (For most recent SKSE 2.0.15 runtime 1.5.73) - Manual Install, replace existing DLL

https://mega.nz/#!uRhFVQLA!g3DS1YDCJ0yjq1GBxSp4t480_KeXct7mFwAlbVQIMXo

• 16) Run FNIS (should have done this a couple of times by now)
• 21) Run Bodyslide, **can use DD DCL Slider Set (Optional) as part of BodySlide batch build**

https://mega.nz/#!evZUCZ4R!kVwdlAUXNpKQCGkrXRTvyYs9ZPbHpzcFb0pfWrLuUhA

• 22a) DD Hotfix (Temp fix for critical chain devices error) - Run after Bodyslide build

https://mega.nz/#!SRJmRagK!tj91HO0PWKoW0KocrfKkI3IZQPxTzvRr4eoMSBfjEcs

• 22b) Alternative testing patch for the critical chains equipment (DCL-DD-ZaZ HDT-SMP and other patches) - I believe you can run this after the DD Hotfix to get the benefits of the Hotfix safety, and the updated xml stuff for the chain wear

https://www.loverslab.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=616606

• 23) Replace the zadSlaveBootsScript.pex and .psc files with the ones from here:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-beta/page/29/?tab=comments#comment-2427154

• 17) MFG Fix (For proper Gag display, I believe?) - Needs SKSE

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/11669

 

For Deviously Cursed Loot (DCL)

All the requirements above, and then:

 

• 10**) Zaz Animation Packs for SE (Currently 8.0/8.0+ Rev 2?) - Requires SexLab 1.63 at least Beta 1

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5957-zaz-animation-packs-for-se/

• 18**) DCL 8.1

https://mega.nz/#!uVZSmIJa!yIctGVhYvxCk-5tQOJPaBmZOKELnfE4FgLP7kN6H_PI

• 19**) DCL patch from 8.1 to 8.2

https://mega.nz/#!yJA0EIyK!vJKSJN2S3SwF2izTeTniePEjLgCpNc9wGTpfMcWd-8Y

• 20**) Run FNIS

 

**Only do this if installing DCL

Can @Pfiffy and/or @Kimy review this and see if this needs adjusting?

[lax4ever]

 

1 hour ago, Raggar613 said:

So after putting this into vortex, i get this message

"Some of the enabled plugins depend on others that are not plugged in:

devious devices integration.esm depends on devious devices assets.esm"

However i downloaded everything required for this mod, did i miss something?

You are going to want to make sure you have all three Devious Devices files installed

 

DDa 3.0SE (Main DD file, Devious Devices Assets.)

https://mega.nz/#!SFJTRbwY!eBqmEUCWkiEiwv8uscb_QabNcd44Xkc5opCG3gu-7b0

DDi 4.2SE (DD Integration)

https://mega.nz/#!rJBSzY7Z!wUMb9-0N__WAVH_0uIZwApMXmeimmHJdwsnFe_2SOkI

DDx 4.2SE (DD Expansion)

https://mega.nz/#!qJhV1YbQ!XaLB261Wpka0xn2jDqAqypc9dzlcvcI18d7_3dhn9EQ

[TheFallenAngel]

Can I change the Item hider Slot to slot 60 or 61 cause i use slot 41?

[lax4ever]

14 hours ago, Fozzoul said:

Well, the thing is, since every other armor works perfectly i feel like im doing it right and devious devices just doesnt wanna play with me. I have gotten it to work a while back, but that was before many mods were updated, problem is if i go back to those versions then everything else might break...

 

Does your devious devices work with all the new versions of sexlab and such?

 

edit: Also, if it works, could you send a printscreen of your load order? Im thinking thats where the problem lies as i once actually managed to get the physics to work while throwing stuff around at random. I then lost them again as i tried to fix the scaling and never managed to get em back...

 

Thanks for the reply btw!

 

Have you built the nude body for it too?

 

My BodySlide builds we’re working fine, no issues like what you have explained. Just some minor spacing issues. 

 

Unfortunately, I have just deleted my Skyrim install to try and start fresh and see what I can do about these CTD’s I have been getting so I don’t have a load order to give right now. 

[TRoclodyte]

I've been using DD for a while correctly but since I updated to the latest version of the XP32 skeleton, the game crashes immediately.  I wanted to revert to the older version of the skeleton but I don't have the installer anymore and it's not available on the nexus page.  I'm just going to stop using DD for now.  If it helps, I'm including my papyrus log into this post, and here's what it looks like:

Papyrus0log.txt

[Fozzoul]

9 hours ago, lax4ever said:

Have you built the nude body for it too?

 

My BodySlide builds we’re working fine, no issues like what you have explained. Just some minor spacing issues. 

 

Unfortunately, I have just deleted my Skyrim install to try and start fresh and see what I can do about these CTD’s I have been getting so I don’t have a load order to give right now. 

Yes, i've tried batch building all of the body types just in case one would work, but none ever did. I have done several clean installs with nothing but CBBE, bodyslide and Devious devices (and all of their requirements of course), once again every thing else works but not DD. I am confussled by this, but thats modding for you i guess, heh.

[lax4ever]

7 hours ago, Fozzoul said:

Yes, i've tried batch building all of the body types just in case one would work, but none ever did. I have done several clean installs with nothing but CBBE, bodyslide and Devious devices (and all of their requirements of course), once again every thing else works but not DD. I am confussled by this, but thats modding for you i guess, heh.

Just out of curiosity, can you list the DD dependencies that you are installing?

[lax4ever]

13 hours ago, TRoclodyte said:

I've been using DD for a while correctly but since I updated to the latest version of the XP32 skeleton, the game crashes immediately.  I wanted to revert to the older version of the skeleton but I don't have the installer anymore and it's not available on the nexus page.  I'm just going to stop using DD for now.  If it helps, I'm including my papyrus log into this post, and here's what it looks like:

Papyrus0log.txt 40.53 kB · 1 download

Did you rerun FNIS after the latest XPSSE update?

[TRoclodyte]

8 hours ago, lax4ever said:

Did you rerun FNIS after the latest XPSSE update?

I did.

[perezidental]

I installed the three files, followed the steps. Batched the files (I'm pretty sure correctly) Got past the load the save game with DD in it. It says DD 4.1 initialized.

 

But there is nothing to equip, interact or do. The quest tab also shows nothing in the MCM.

 

Am I missing something here?

[lax4ever]

10 hours ago, lax4ever said:

Did you rerun FNIS after the latest XPSSE update?

Maybe try reinstalling DD to see if those references will fix themselves. 

 

1 hour ago, perezidental said:

I installed the three files, followed the steps. Batched the files (I'm pretty sure correctly) Got past the load the save game with DD in it. It says DD 4.1 initialized.

 

But there is nothing to equip, interact or do. The quest tab also shows nothing in the MCM.

 

Am I missing something here?

Devious Devices is just a group of assets that are made available for other creators use. You can spawn in the items through the console if you want, but DD doesn’t have a native way to use its assets. It just depends on what you want to do with those devices. 

[Raggar613]

On 4/30/2019 at 1:17 PM, lax4ever said:

 

You are going to want to make sure you have all three Devious Devices files installed

 

DDa 3.0SE (Main DD file, Devious Devices Assets.)

https://mega.nz/#!SFJTRbwY!eBqmEUCWkiEiwv8uscb_QabNcd44Xkc5opCG3gu-7b0

DDi 4.2SE (DD Integration)

https://mega.nz/#!rJBSzY7Z!wUMb9-0N__WAVH_0uIZwApMXmeimmHJdwsnFe_2SOkI

DDx 4.2SE (DD Expansion)

https://mega.nz/#!qJhV1YbQ!XaLB261Wpka0xn2jDqAqypc9dzlcvcI18d7_3dhn9EQ

so after installing all three mods, updating fnis and bodyslide, i try to use a old saved game or a new one but it crashes each time right when its a bout to load....what else am i doing wrong? lol

[TheFallenAngel]

7 hours ago, Raggar613 said:

so after installing all three mods, updating fnis and bodyslide, i try to use a old saved game or a new one but it crashes each time right when its a bout to load....what else am i doing wrong? lol

maybe you have to many animations loaded. Try to uncheck animations till you have only 10000 active in FNIS XXL

 

[Fozzoul]

23 hours ago, lax4ever said:

Just out of curiosity, can you list the DD dependencies that you are installing?

• SKSE64 2_00_15
• SexLab SE 1.63 BETA6
• SexLab Aroused Redux SE
• FNIS SE - all three packs (behavior, creature, spells)
• Racemenu se V 0-3-4
• XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended v4.51
• Bodyslide and Outfit Studio v 4.7.1

I should have everything up to date.

 

EDIT: When you say dependencies, i assume you mean which mods i use that requires DD? If so its Cursed loot and deviously helpless.

[Raggar613]

4 hours ago, TheFallenAngel said:

maybe you have to many animations loaded. Try to uncheck animations till you have only 10000 active in FNIS XXL

 

hmmm i maybe a little over then....

10851 animations for 42 mods successfully included (character)
 605 animations for 3 mods and 22 creatures successfully included.

[TheFallenAngel]

18 hours ago, Raggar613 said:

hmmm i maybe a little over then....

10851 animations for 42 mods successfully included (character)
 605 animations for 3 mods and 22 creatures successfully included.

then that's not the problem caus i have 12069 and 2242.

did you run bodyslide after installation?

[zarantha]

On 5/2/2019 at 1:29 PM, Raggar613 said:

hmmm i maybe a little over then....

10851 animations for 42 mods successfully included (character)
 605 animations for 3 mods and 22 creatures successfully included.

 

16 hours ago, TheFallenAngel said:

then that's not the problem caus i have 12069 and 2242.

did you run bodyslide after installation?

 

The limit is different for everyone. It is dependent on the pc and how many mods are installed. He could very well be hitting his limit.

[Raggar613]

18 hours ago, TheFallenAngel said:

then that's not the problem caus i have 12069 and 2242.

did you run bodyslide after installation?

i ran bodyslide and FNIS after installing. It just crashes as soon as its about to load in game.

[Fozzoul]

So after installing LOOT and fixing my load order i now have the physics for the body working but the scaling is still off. I have been thoroughly checking all my mods to make sure i have the lastest version of them and all of their requirements. 

 

Do i have to go into settings in bodyslide and change the skeleton or something like that? Or change the settings just in general?

[zarantha]

11 hours ago, Raggar613 said:

i ran bodyslide and FNIS after installing. It just crashes as soon as its about to load in game.

If you tried reducing the anim count and it didn't work, do you have mods from LE that you're using in SE? If so, you need to extract the BSAs from LE.