Devious Devices SE

[brdc]

19 minutes ago, 1947421196 said:

Few days ago I also installed II-AA and another bow anim mod based on DAR (along with some other mods but I think they had nothing to do with anim), but today I found that both my PC and NPCs lost all DD idle animations, including yokes, pet suits, armbinders. While DD struggle animations were OK.

 

Just in case someone really knows what could be the culprit, these are mods I added between DD idle anims right and wrong. 

Spoiler

#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Name

"0078","Allow Dialogue Progress Bugfix 1.0"
"0079","DisableFollowerCollision v1.0"
"0080","Disable Turn Animation SE 1.0"
"0081","Sprint Draw And Sheath Fixes 1.3"
"0082","Payload Interpreter 1.0.1"
"0083","Papyrus Tweaks 4.0"
"0084","Papyrus Tweaks INI file 4.0"
"0085","Recursion Fix 1.2"
"0086","eFPS - Exterior FPS boost 2.4.2"
"0103","Better SkyUI Config 1.0.1"
"0104","Infinity UI 1.1.1"
"0105","Compass Navigation Overhaul 1.2.2"
"0146","Smooth Bow Animation 1.4"
"0149","Simply Knock - Tower Stone Fix"
"0152","Better Third Person Selection 0.5.8"
"0153","Carriage Stops of Skyrim 1.6"
"0154","Hearthfire Extended 1.0.5"
"0155","Hearthfire Extended 1.0.3 - Cutting Room Floor Patch"
"0156","Hearthfire Extended Aquarium Patch 2.0"
"0157","Carriage and Ferry Travel Overhaul 2.0"
"0158","High Poly NPC Overhaul - Carriage and Ferry Travel Overhaul (CFTO)"
"0159","CFTO - Covered Carriages add-on 2.0"
"0160","CFTO - Hearthfire Extended patch 2.0"
"0161","CFTO - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch 2.0"
"0162","CFTO - Lanterns add-on 2.0"
"0163","CFTO - Minor Fix 1.01"
"0164","CFTO radiant quest fix"
"0166","Helgen Reborn SSE 1.0.6"
"0167","Immersive Interactions 1.67"
"0168","Sweeping Organizes Stuff - Use Broom to Clean Mess 0.4"
"0254","Misc High Heels Sitting Height Fix 4.0"
"0310","Bears of the North 1.1"
"0325","Skyrim Landscape and Water Fixes - Cutting Room Floor 1.0"
"0326","Skyrim Landscape and Water Fixes - Immersive Citizens 1.0"
"0338","Immersive Fallen Trees SSE 2.0.2"
"0339","Immersive Fallen Trees Patch 1.2"
 

 

I had tried disabling these mods in the save I was playing and a new game but either didn't work. Really want to fix it as I have played the save hundreds of hours.

Also have been went through this thread trying to find solutions, the DD-DAR scripting way sorting DD idle anims priority seems promising, but I know nothing about modify and recompile things.

As the DD-DAR author doesn't have permision to publish the modified scripts, any possible help from DD teams official? Thanks

[brdc]

While trying to fix the anims problem mentioned above, I upgraded DD to the newest Beta10 RC1 SE (from Beta6, then Beta 9). Some minor issues wanna make sure.

When wearing boots and ankle chains at the same time, they are shown together. ONLY except the restritive ones, ankle chains are hidden but still wearing (no device hidden in MCM).Is this a mistake or intentional?

Another issue is BByoke in bodyslide. Been working good in Beta9, but in Beta10 the BByoke preview's nipples get awfully big. I didn't try it in game not wanting to see those ugly thing on my PC... Check it out please?

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, 1947421196 said:

While trying to fix the anims problem mentioned above, I upgraded DD to the newest Beta10 RC1 SE (from Beta6, then Beta 9). Some minor issues wanna make sure.

When wearing boots and ankle chains at the same time, they are shown together. ONLY except the restritive ones, ankle chains are hidden but still wearing (no device hidden in MCM).Is this a mistake or intentional?

Another issue is BByoke in bodyslide. Been working good in Beta9, but in Beta10 the BByoke preview's nipples get awfully big. I didn't try it in game not wanting to see those ugly thing on my PC... Check it out please?

 

You either get what's in beta 10 or you use the old bodyslide where there's seams on the wrists, ankles and probably neck. There is no good way to bodyslide that monstrosity, I did the best I could. I have no idea how to make the nipples smaller and still have the breast actually in the yoke instead of behind it not going through it. Lots of people were complaining about the seams so that's why i tried to fix it.

 

chains showing up or not is going to be a priority issue. let me know the in game name of the boots and ankle chains and i'll try to take a last look through before 5.2 is released.

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, 1947421196 said:

Just in case someone really knows what could be the culprit, these are mods I added between DD idle anims right and wrong. 

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#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Name

"0078","Allow Dialogue Progress Bugfix 1.0"
"0079","DisableFollowerCollision v1.0"
"0080","Disable Turn Animation SE 1.0"
"0081","Sprint Draw And Sheath Fixes 1.3"
"0082","Payload Interpreter 1.0.1"
"0083","Papyrus Tweaks 4.0"
"0084","Papyrus Tweaks INI file 4.0"
"0085","Recursion Fix 1.2"
"0086","eFPS - Exterior FPS boost 2.4.2"
"0103","Better SkyUI Config 1.0.1"
"0104","Infinity UI 1.1.1"
"0105","Compass Navigation Overhaul 1.2.2"
"0146","Smooth Bow Animation 1.4"
"0149","Simply Knock - Tower Stone Fix"
"0152","Better Third Person Selection 0.5.8"
"0153","Carriage Stops of Skyrim 1.6"
"0154","Hearthfire Extended 1.0.5"
"0155","Hearthfire Extended 1.0.3 - Cutting Room Floor Patch"
"0156","Hearthfire Extended Aquarium Patch 2.0"
"0157","Carriage and Ferry Travel Overhaul 2.0"
"0158","High Poly NPC Overhaul - Carriage and Ferry Travel Overhaul (CFTO)"
"0159","CFTO - Covered Carriages add-on 2.0"
"0160","CFTO - Hearthfire Extended patch 2.0"
"0161","CFTO - Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch 2.0"
"0162","CFTO - Lanterns add-on 2.0"
"0163","CFTO - Minor Fix 1.01"
"0164","CFTO radiant quest fix"
"0166","Helgen Reborn SSE 1.0.6"
"0167","Immersive Interactions 1.67"
"0168","Sweeping Organizes Stuff - Use Broom to Clean Mess 0.4"
"0254","Misc High Heels Sitting Height Fix 4.0"
"0310","Bears of the North 1.1"
"0325","Skyrim Landscape and Water Fixes - Cutting Room Floor 1.0"
"0326","Skyrim Landscape and Water Fixes - Immersive Citizens 1.0"
"0338","Immersive Fallen Trees SSE 2.0.2"
"0339","Immersive Fallen Trees Patch 1.2"
 

 

I had tried disabling these mods in the save I was playing and a new game but either didn't work. Really want to fix it as I have played the save hundreds of hours.

Also have been went through this thread trying to find solutions, the DD-DAR scripting way sorting DD idle anims priority seems promising, but I know nothing about modify and recompile things.

As the DD-DAR author doesn't have permision to publish the modified scripts, any possible help from DD teams official? Thanks

 

Not until the DD DAR animations are included in with DD. Until then you're on your own converting  DD to DAR.

 

You can remove the mods you added and add them back one at at time until you find the one breaking the animations.

[brdc]

6 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

You either get what's in beta 10 or you use the old bodyslide where there's seams on the wrists, ankles and probably neck. There is no good way to bodyslide that monstrosity, I did the best I could. I have no idea how to make the nipples smaller and still have the breast actually in the yoke instead of behind it not going through it. Lots of people were complaining about the seams so that's why i tried to fix it.

 

chains showing up or not is going to be a priority issue. let me know the in game name of the boots and ankle chains and i'll try to take a last look through before 5.2 is released.

I think Beta9 version BByoke is good for me. Small seams are much more tolerable than awful nipples.

 

About the in game name of the issue boots and chains, unfortunately I can‘t tell the precise names. Since I have used translated DD5.1 and somehow can't return the names to English even I have deleted translated version and installed the latest Beta10 from here. I'll take some time figure it out.

The boots are "restrictive boots", not harness one. Which are very long and cover the thighs.

The ankle chains are the kind with short chains attached to two ankles. Both weight 2 and 4 ones are problematic. I didn't try the kind with metal ball, not sure if they have same problem.

[SkyrimLover43]

Couldn't load DeviousDevices.dll (Devious Devices). A DLL is invalid (code 193)

 

How do I fix this?

[Mister X]

1 hour ago, SkyrimLover43 said:

Couldn't load DeviousDevices.dll (Devious Devices). A DLL is invalid (code 193)

 

How do I fix this?

 

Most probably you've used the wrong dll file for your game version. Reinstall with the one for your game version and try again.

[zarantha]

16 hours ago, 1947421196 said:

I think Beta9 version BByoke is good for me. Small seams are much more tolerable than awful nipples.

 

About the in game name of the issue boots and chains, unfortunately I can‘t tell the precise names. Since I have used translated DD5.1 and somehow can't return the names to English even I have deleted translated version and installed the latest Beta10 from here. I'll take some time figure it out.

The boots are "restrictive boots", not harness one. Which are very long and cover the thighs.

The ankle chains are the kind with short chains attached to two ankles. Both weight 2 and 4 ones are problematic. I didn't try the kind with metal ball, not sure if they have same problem.

 

I did find a combo that replicates the issue, but i probably won't mess with it anymore at the moment. I've got to to work on the conversion for the release now.

I may update the SE patch later if I find a workaround, but it doesn't seem to be a priority issue as I assumed.

 

I can add an option to switch between the two BBYokes though. In bodyslide I can make a BBYoke - Legacy or something like that for the 5.2 release.

[zarantha]

13 hours ago, SkyrimLover43 said:

Couldn't load DeviousDevices.dll (Devious Devices). A DLL is invalid (code 193)

 

How do I fix this?

 

If you're installing 5.1, either wait for a day or two for me to finish up converting DD 5.2 (just released today), or grab the right DLL for your game from the troubleshooting post.

If you're installing the beta, make sure you select the right game version in the fomod.

[brdc]

5 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

I did find a combo that replicates the issue, but i probably won't mess with it anymore at the moment. I've got to to work on the conversion for the release now.

I may update the SE patch later if I find a workaround, but it doesn't seem to be a priority issue as I assumed.

 

I can add an option to switch between the two BBYokes though. In bodyslide I can make a BBYoke - Legacy or something like that for the 5.2 release.

It's fine focus on your work making 5.2 release happen, since those are just small issue. By the way, thank you guys keep doing great job on this outstanding mod.

 

But right now for me, losing DD idle anims means losing lots of fun, so until I figure out how to bring them back, I'll just put DD away for a while and enjoy some quests in Skyrim.Would love to know if DD-DAR is in DD team's to-do list?

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, 1947421196 said:

It's fine focus on your work making 5.2 release happen, since those are just small issue. By the way, thank you guys keep doing great job on this outstanding mod.

 

But right now for me, losing DD idle anims means losing lots of fun, so until I figure out how to bring them back, I'll just put DD away for a while and enjoy some quests in Skyrim.Would love to know if DD-DAR is in DD team's to-do list?

 

It is, but the person doing it was unable to get the files to completed before 5.2 released, so it will be in a later version.

[MadFred80]

Will there be a DLL update?

[brdc]

8 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

It is, but the person doing it was unable to get the files to completed before 5.2 released, so it will be in a later version.

Good to hear that, hope it can bring my DD idle back.

Just wondering if it is possible to set DD anims as a super high priority, so that it can compatible to more movement mods? At lease the ones within FNIS like sexy move, or the ones within DAR but without Nemesis. 

I know nothing about modding so, sorry if I asked silly question.

[zarantha]

13 hours ago, MadFred80 said:

Will there be a DLL update?

 

For what? There's been no new game update and I already have them for the current releases. Check the troubleshooting post.

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, 1947421196 said:

Good to hear that, hope it can bring my DD idle back.

Just wondering if it is possible to set DD anims as a super high priority, so that it can compatible to more movement mods? At lease the ones within FNIS like sexy move, or the ones within DAR but without Nemesis. 

I know nothing about modding so, sorry if I asked silly question.

 

Part of the DAR conversion is to set them at a high priority. Nothing like that can be done for FNIS or Nemesis. And DD doesn't work well with Nemesis without DAR, so if you have it, it's recommended to remove Nemesis and any mods requiring it specifically, or just put up with Nemesis messing up the animations from time to time. Part of removing Nemesis is reinstalling DD and FNIS, and possibly your other FNIS mods.

[Evelle the Slut]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

Part of the DAR conversion is to set them at a high priority. Nothing like that can be done for FNIS or Nemesis. And DD doesn't work well with Nemesis without DAR, so if you have it, it's recommended to remove Nemesis and any mods requiring it specifically, or just put up with Nemesis messing up the animations from time to time. Part of removing Nemesis is reinstalling DD and FNIS, and possibly your other FNIS mods.

 

This is the first I'm hearing of this; I'm running Nemesis + FNIS alone and haven't been having any trouble seeing DD-oriented animations.

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, alexandriv said:

 

This is the first I'm hearing of this; I'm running Nemesis + FNIS alone and haven't been having any trouble seeing DD-oriented animations.

 

It's hit or miss. Some people have no trouble, others get animations not playing or playing the wrong one. There's been no consistency with Nemesis, and it's not used in LE, so there is no support for it even in SE, since I have no idea what's fucking up with it.

[brdc]

8 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Part of the DAR conversion is to set them at a high priority. Nothing like that can be done for FNIS or Nemesis. And DD doesn't work well with Nemesis without DAR, so if you have it, it's recommended to remove Nemesis and any mods requiring it specifically, or just put up with Nemesis messing up the animations from time to time. Part of removing Nemesis is reinstalling DD and FNIS, and possibly your other FNIS mods.

Got it. DD is actually why I started playing Skyrim so I've never touched Nemesis, knowing it is incompatible as DD team officially anounced. Plus I'm not a fan of hardcore fighting, totally fine without Nemesis. 

Yes from time to time I see some people saying DD and Nemesis get along. But finding & downloading & testing mods have taken up more than half of my already low free time, I just can't affort if it break my DD playthrough and I have to spent even more time to fix it.

[FireSplitter]

Does anyone know how to disable/change the "Forced Walk Mode" that is coming from DD? It is reducing the carry weight by 1000, sometimes going into the negative value and thus you PC will be stuck. I know I can cheat up my carry weight but let's assume I don't (crazy). I think the feature is a bit silly.

 

Did a bit more digging and I saw the magnitude is coming from some equipment which sets it to 1000.

Is this intended? I mean, the value it is a bit high and it forces one to cheat otherwise PC will be stuck. 

Edited February 9, 2023 by FireSplitter

[iano0o]

My game crashes when i try to open DD Expansion part one or play any zaz animation associated with it the game crash 
idk if i missed the solution but i cant seems to fix this pls help 

[dodactem]

On 2/1/2023 at 1:36 PM, misterpipes said:

I've just started a new game with DD5.2 beta 10, and have a query and a problem.

The query is I noticed that there is a patch for DD5/5.1 for SLIF. Is that patch required for DD5.2 beta 10?

 

The problem is: when I put in an anal plug (soulgem or tail, from DD Expansion.esm or DD Integration.esm) I can't take it out, because it prompts me to put it in again (before telling me theres something there already. Unless I also put in a vaginal plug, at which point the anal plug can be removed, as can the vaginal plug afterwards.
If the vaginal plug is already in when trying to insert the anal plug, it fails as well.
I've checked MO2, and there aren't any DD scripts being overwritten, so I'm really not sure what is going on.

Seconding this problem. When equipped with an anal plug, the prompts given when selecting the plug in inventory act as if it is not yet equipped. It only says "Put it in" or "Carry on" Other devices seems to be functioning normally. I haven't confirmed the related behavior with vaginal plugs, though. Let me know if you figured out a fix.

 

Edit: This is due to an incompatibility between the Devious Lore patch for Devious Devices and Devious Devices. I guess he'll be releasing an update soon.

Edited February 9, 2023 by dodactem

[iano0o]

3 hours ago, dodactem said:

Seconding this problem. When equipped with an anal plug, the prompts given when selecting the plug in inventory act as if it is not yet equipped. It only says "Put it in" or "Carry on" Other devices seems to be functioning normally. I haven't confirmed the related behavior with vaginal plugs, though. Let me know if you figured out a fix.

 

Edit: This is due to an incompatibility between the Devious Lore patch for Devious Devices and Devious Devices. I guess he'll be releasing an update soon.

ok so i was able to solve this myself apparently i had devious devices  se main file installed and i also had devious devices expansion installed  i did not know before that the main dd had already expansion in it .... so my guess u have same problem but with different file maybe main DD already has some files u have installed and they are duplicated somehow

[zarantha]

8 hours ago, FireSplitter said:

Is this intended? I mean, the value it is a bit high and it forces one to cheat otherwise PC will be stuck. 

 

Yes, it's intentional. You should not be able to run while your legs are restricted is the premise, but the only want to force that reliably  is to make skyrim think you're overburdened. This does stack with other mods doing similar debuffs. but by itself is not a problem

 

If you're getting stuck, you can change your view from 1st to 3rd to get going, then switch back. Or just toggle god mode. You could edit the plugin or scripts, but those changes won't be persistent if you upgrade, or could cause problems later on if something changes. You're on your own there if you insist on doing it.

[FireSplitter]

7 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Yes, it's intentional. You should not be able to run while your legs are restricted is the premise, but the only want to force that reliably  is to make skyrim think you're overburdened. This does stack with other mods doing similar debuffs. but by itself is not a problem

 

If you're getting stuck, you can change your view from 1st to 3rd to get going, then switch back. Or just toggle god mode. You could edit the plugin or scripts, but those changes won't be persistent if you upgrade, or could cause problems later on if something changes. You're on your own there if you insist on doing it.

I understand. It was just that the quest requires me to move however I am unable to do so. It is the DCL alternate start when you start bound and you have to move to get the key from the body that is around. Being a new game, I was basically stuck in place and unable to move unless I edit my carry weight (modav). I initially thought it was a conversion error for the DD but it does not seems so. Maybe is better to ask Kimy on LE page, because I don't see how can you progress if you cannot move at all. (except with cheat)

[N.Gamma]

Is there an actual CBBE 3BA bodyslide for Devious Devices 5.1?