Sexlab Adventures

[Teutonic]

4 hours ago, the8one said:

Actually as far as themed debuffs go the Minineeds mod is actually a pretty good starting place for implemented ideas. More specifically it has a debuff that makes your weapon randomize on a variety of circumstances.

MiniNeeds really has just a collection of debuffs, not the themes I am looking for.

[Lupine00]

On 12/25/2018 at 11:08 AM, Teutonic said:

For example, The arousal debuffs on spells are basically copied from Aroused Vampirism, but its theme, being an aroused vampire, isn't and I would like to bring it back. But at the same time, there would be other sets of buffs and debuffs that one might want to use instead. For example, one idea I had was that the player gets a bonus to max Magicka, but sucks at everything but magic, and can only regain Magicka by having sex or maybe by swallowing semen. Warrior and thief type of characters should get their themes as well though. It seems to me there are more interesting possibilities this way.

If you were just replicating Aroused Vampirism, what would be the point? It already exists, and can be installed, along with its "theme".

 

The cum drinker theme sounds interesting though. But it's also sort of likely that SLD will let anyone dial up all those behaviours and a hundred more besides in the not too distant future. I'm not saying don't do it, but I am going to do something a lot like that.

 

So unless you just have a strong urge to do it, there's probably areas that would be more bang-for-buck, like combat defeat, or prostitution, or more clothing crimes.

 

Not that I'm hung up on it or anything  but I'd really love to see laws against women wearing armor or odd magical clothes unless they are thanes or equivalent.

 

Now I think about it though, if you did something like the cum-vampire, and it was highly "questy" content, not just about buffs, that would be awesome.

[Teutonic]

18 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

If you were just replicating Aroused Vampirism, what would be the point? It already exists, and can be installed, along with its "theme".

 

The cum drinker theme sounds interesting though. But it's also sort of likely that SLD will let anyone dial up all those behaviours and a hundred more besides in the not too distant future. So unless you really like making that content, there's probably areas that would be more exciting, like combat defeat, or prostitution, or more clothing crimes.

 

Not that I'm biased or anything  but I'd really love to see laws against women wearing armor or odd magical clothes unless they are thanes or equivalent.

Literally the first thing I was asked after I released it, was if it is compatible with other vampirism mods. I was also repeatedly asked to make it available to non vampires. The mechanics currently in Adventures were supposed to enable that, but they don't capture the theme well.

 

I also think setting several debuffs up is tedious and annoying, not to mention it does not have the amount of customization I would like it to have.

[Thyken]

I love the mod and it's definitively a must in all of my playthroughs. However, I noticed that when I made nudity mandatory in the newest update, no other npcs are nude. Is this a bug or is the stripping of other npcs not added? Thanks!

[Teutonic]

1 hour ago, Thyken said:

I love the mod and it's definitively a must in all of my playthroughs. However, I noticed that when I made nudity mandatory in the newest update, no other npcs are nude. Is this a bug or is the stripping of other npcs not added? Thanks!

NPCs are not stripped, this is not a bug.

[sapho888]

20 hours ago, Thyken said:

I love the mod and it's definitively a must in all of my playthroughs. However, I noticed that when I made nudity mandatory in the newest update, no other npcs are nude. Is this a bug or is the stripping of other npcs not added? Thanks!

If you want NPC nudity in cities, you could try Slaverun Reloaded.  Just be sure to read about everything the mod does because it does a lot.  I personally prefer that not all female NPCs be nude... it just seems strange that even female leaders and other free women had to wander around naked all the time.

[ChaoSoul]

Hi Teutonic! 

I love the idea of this mod and I'd love to see it keep growing and evolving.

So, getting straight to the point, I'd love to quickly drop a few ideas for new crime rules and so on that could fit SLAdv. 

Some of these might already be on your to-do list, some may have been suggested by others and all in all this is just a bunch of ideas which you can treat however you want ?

 

#1 MCM Customization:

Spoiler

Thane Multiplier / Thane Only / Thane Inverted - The multiplier would mean that as you become a Thane you might have to pay more (or less) than normal, Thane Only would be an option for when you want a law to work only after you become a Thane, Thane Inverted would mean that the Thane would get persecuted for not doing what the law forbids commoners. Together this would mean that the player could set it so that while being covered in cum isn't a crime (IsCrime==False), it is when you are a Thane (Thane Only: IsCrime==True), and while normally you are forbidden to walk naked (IsCrime==True) when you become a Thane it is mandatory that you show off your body and never wear anything in the city (IsCrime==True -> Thane Inverted).

 

Civil War Faction - An option to exclude members of Imperial Legion from the crimes in Empire controlled cities, and the same for Stormcloaks in their cities.

 

Legal Prostitution - This wouldn't even have to be a prostitution mechanism. Let me explain why... We've got a bunch of prostitution mods (DCL's solicitation, TDF's prostitution, etc.) and we don't really need another mechanism. So instead of making patches and dependencies, how about adding to SLAdv an option to pay to a steward for an Allowance which for a time would halt the effects of some crimes (Nudity, CoveredInCum, Masturbation, Sex). The player would have to pay for it to the Steward in order to use the contents of some other mods prostitution mechanisms or other sexual content without having to worry about SLAdv Crimes. Yes, this would also automatically make any non-prostitution consensual sex interaction not considered a crime, but does it matter? From the Guards' point of view you payed for the allowance so why would they care if you're actually making money, or just giving your body away for free. It's really nice and simple... But here are some options for MCM configuration:

- Legal Prostitution <Yes/No> - Option to set whether it even is possible to get the allowance in said hold.

- Initial Payment <0 to 1000> - how much you have to pay to get allowance in this hold.

- Prostitution Tax <Yes/No> / Amount <0 to 1000> / Period Length < 3 Days to 14 Days > - sets whether you have to periodically pay a fee to keep your allowance, how much and how often. You can pay to the steward and ensure that you will keep your allowance.

- Post-Expiration Pay Time <1 to 3 days> - sets how much time you've got after the expiration date to find the steward and pay him in order to keep your allowance. After that time the Prostitution Tax gets added to your bounty and will be added with every Period Length. Having Prostitution Tax added to your bounty means your Allowance will be taken away (and you will have to make the Initial Payment again)

- Legal: Always / in Inns Only / at Night / in Inns and at Night Only / at Night Outside - quite self explanatory. The Laws don't concern the Prostitute Always / only in inns / everywhere but only at night / only in inns and  only at night / in inns during the day and everywhere at night.

- Thane Automatic <Yes/No> / Thane Tax-Free - option to set if you get one automatically as a Thane and if it is free of the Prostitution Tax.

- Thane Inverted <Yes/No> Thane Punished <Yes/No> - As a Thane it may be illegal of you to ask for a Prostitution Allowance (Meaning you're told that you can't have one). / Thane Punished overwrites the answer of denial with an aggressive answer. What?! You're Thane now! A noble! And you want to fuck around like a lowlife?! No such luck with that option set to true! (Basic option -> Sent to jail. But if you had too much spare time Teutonic, PC bound in the Guard Barracks for the guards to use her)

 

Rule Exceptions - These would be simple additional rules for existing crimes.

- Exclude Daggers / Ammo <Yes/No> - When carrying a weapon (equipped or even in inventory) is forbidden, this way the player can exclude daggers and ammo from this law.

- Exclude Restoration <Yes/No> - When using magic is forbidden, this way the player can exclude restoration spells from this law.

- Exclude Race <Pick from the pool> - This would allow to make it (for example) easier for nords in Windhelm.

- Exclude Clothing <Yes/No> - Available only if you use Inverted Nudity Law. With this only wearing Light or Heavy Armor would be considered breaking the rules.

- Misogyny <Yes/No> - Pretty much every law... Excludes males from the law.

 

POP Soft Dependency - Perhaps we could have an option to decide (on hold basis) whether we want the POP jail or Vanilla jail?

 

#2 About automatic forcing NPC's to abide by the laws:

Spoiler

<Below can be absolutely dismissed if Teutonic said anything about wanting to do this... I've seen some mention of the topic in this forum, but I just got here, and didn't really read through all the 54 pages ?>

 

It's really immersion breaking that only PC is considered for the crimes... It would be really amazing if we had here in SLAdv a mod which allows us to set some cities to naked only and automatically strip NPC's. And the fact that we have the same in Slaverun isn't really a reason not to make it an option here... Few reasons:

#1 - Slaverun strips only females so the functionality would be a bit different.

#2 - Slaverun is a very long and player slavery oriented mod which pretty much requires an entire playthrough and is simply giant (don't get me wrong, I enjoyed that playthrough, but I'm never going through all these lengthy scenes again, haha *Unless Kenjoka keeps working on it forever, which might make me try it out in a few years to see what has changed*)

#3 - The cities are enslaved in a specified order... and having set the SLAdv Laws to be semi lore friendly, only the initial Jarl of Falkreath seemed to be the kind of guy to use his power to force everyone to walk around naked, and then again only Maven (once she takes control of Riften after Empire-Friendly conclusion of Civil War) seemed fitting for an Inverted Collar Law... 

 

So yeah... Slaverun and SLAdv are two completely different mods so I don't see "Slaverun did it" as a valid reason not to have that option here.

 

#3 "Crimes and so on" suggestions:

Spoiler

Skooma is Forbidden - just a simple feature so you can play without Skooma Whore. Drink Skooma you get a bounty. Thane could be exempt. Optional 'Even possession is a crime'.

 

Alcohol is Forbidden - not as simple as Skooma... Option to set it so that it isn't forbidden in Inns. Possibly a list to choose which are exempt of the rule (so for example in Maven controlled Riften you can only drink her brand of mead). Optional 'Even possession is a crime'.

 

Forbidden Attires - Some <Yes/No> toggles to forbid some clothes and armors in a given hold (Examples: Stormcloak; Imperial; Guard; Mage Robes; Enchanted; Black/Necromancer Robes; Daedric; Forsworn)

 

Bound Audience - As you enter a Jarl's Palace / Longhouse you are stopped by a guard who orders you to bind yourself before you'll be allowed further. He'll ask you to use your own devices (or notice that you've got them on already) and provide you with a set if you don't have correct devices. We have to keep the Jarls safe, right? MCM Configuration (Thane can be exempt completely or only partially, or have it worse):

- Toggles for Different Devices: Armbinder or Yoke or Bondage Mittens, Blindfold, Slave Boots (so you can't run), Hobble Skirt or a Straightjacket, Collar, Body Harness or a Corset...

- Naked Audience - So they're absolutely sure you're not hiding anything or just for the Jarls optical pleasure...

- Bring your own <Yes/No> - If 'no', the guard will always unlock you before you leave, but if 'yes', he will only help you out of those you brought yourself if you ask before leaving, and if he has to provide you with devices he will take away your keys and a set amount of gold as a fee and will not unlock them.

 

Dragonborn has to be Gagged - simple really, if you've started the Main Questline to the point where Balgruuf knows you're the Dragonborn, you have to wear a Gag in public places. Thanes could be exempt.

 

Chastity Law - Women have to wear chastity belts (optional bras and plugs), option 'Married Only', Inverted (Chastity devices are forbidden).

 

Hope you like the ideas

[DarksideTinkerbell]

I have been having a great deal of fun with this Mod. The rape function is well awesome, although it is a shame its just a Rape function and there is not an option for a Nymphomaniac player to conversationally get a bff/lover or follower to start a Gang Bang, just because they are bored or horny...

 

As to the buffs and debuffs, take a look at Sexlab Disparity, this Mod with that Mod and Sexlab Hormones are excellent combinations.  If you want a buff/debuff system that is beyand different, think old Martial Arts movies, the Drunken Warrior themes. In this case well, maybe as follows;

 

Erotic Sorcery: Gives bonuses to spell casting, magic regen debuffs physical skills and physical damage (ie, spells might do 1% more damage the hornier you are, may even have changed fx all spells have a special glow to them as an example, Magic regen increases likewise, while Melee Damage and maybe Unarmed decrease by an equal amount as does Stam Regen)

 

Erotic Combat basically the reverse of Erotic Sorcery

 

Erotic Arts: Smithing/Enchanting/Alchemy Skills increase while Lockpicking/pick pockets and Stealth decrease

 

Erotic Assassin the reverse of Erotic Arts

 

Erotic Mastery: This is well the Nymphomaniac in me, the idea is simple. You don't really want to hurt anybody/thing what you want is to subdue and the fuck their brains out. So I would suggest a special ability and earning such also (for balance) harder to achieve. Basically, Melee speed and spell casting speed increased maybe movement as well, Block Increased (although Bash attacks should do no damage but instead have a chance to stun), the counter is that melee/Unarmed and Spell damage are heavily debuffed. Why? Cause instead all attacks have a chance to subdue/stun. The special ability is simply that Stunned victims can then be raped, via "actioning them" like in defeat and other Mods, or temporarily can be charmed into willing sex slaves for the player (limited duration, if no sex within the time they snap out of the temp infatuation, if sex within the time chance of an extended stay?)

 

Easily add other packages (Erotic Sword Master, Erotic Archer) The Erotic Schools would kick in based on Arousal Level (personally I would say 80-100, but could McM the kick in, so players could if they wanted change it to what ever they want, 0-100 whatever). Leveling up in the Styles, easy, in McM  a player chooses 1 or maybe max 2 styles (if 2 then 1 would be a combat based style while the other would be a skill based style, ie, Style 1 Erotic Sorcery, Style 2 Erotic Destruction or Erotic Arts (whatever)) These skills have a set proc chance to activate while Horny (Base chance possibly set in McM) +1% everytime they proc (duration is for as long as they stay Horny, above the minimal arousal level), once a Style gets a 100% chance to proc that unlocks Erotic Mastery, if it is set as 2 Styles, 1 combat 1 skill based then Both have to get 100% proc skill before Mastery can be learned.

 

Mind you reading all that myself it looks like a pretty big addition, maybe a separate mod? I don't know, I have no idea the complexities of modding that scares me lol only hope to provide inspiration

 

Oh wow I just read all that, you could even base an entire quest line on the Erotic Styles or even just on Erotic Mastery. Maybe through Dibella? A note delivered after say 100 sex acts,"Dear Dragonborn, I have a gift if you chose to except, your sexual prowess has come to my attention so I would offer to teach you the mysteries of Erotic Mastery."

[Celedhring]

22 hours ago, TheSpirit said:

Hi Teutonic! 

I love the idea of this mod and I'd love to see it keep growing and evolving.

So, getting straight to the point, I'd love to quickly drop a few ideas for new crime rules and so on that could fit SLAdv. 

Some of these might already be on your to-do list, some may have been suggested by others and all in all this is just a bunch of ideas which you can treat however you want ?

 

#1 MCM Customization:

  Reveal hidden contents

Thane Multiplier / Thane Only / Thane Inverted - The multiplier would mean that as you become a Thane you might have to pay more (or less) than normal, Thane Only would be an option for when you want a law to work only after you become a Thane, Thane Inverted would mean that the Thane would get persecuted for not doing what the law forbids commoners. Together this would mean that the player could set it so that while being covered in cum isn't a crime (IsCrime==False), it is when you are a Thane (Thane Only: IsCrime==True), and while normally you are forbidden to walk naked (IsCrime==True) when you become a Thane it is mandatory that you show off your body and never wear anything in the city (IsCrime==True -> Thane Inverted).

 

Civil War Faction - An option to exclude members of Imperial Legion from the crimes in Empire controlled cities, and the same for Stormcloaks in their cities.

 

Legal Prostitution - This wouldn't even have to be a prostitution mechanism. Let me explain why... We've got a bunch of prostitution mods (DCL's solicitation, TDF's prostitution, etc.) and we don't really need another mechanism. So instead of making patches and dependencies, how about adding to SLAdv an option to pay to a steward for an Allowance which for a time would halt the effects of some crimes (Nudity, CoveredInCum, Masturbation, Sex). The player would have to pay for it to the Steward in order to use the contents of some other mods prostitution mechanisms or other sexual content without having to worry about SLAdv Crimes. Yes, this would also automatically make any non-prostitution consensual sex interaction not considered a crime, but does it matter? From the Guards' point of view you payed for the allowance so why would they care if you're actually making money, or just giving your body away for free. It's really nice and simple... But here are some options for MCM configuration:

- Legal Prostitution <Yes/No> - Option to set whether it even is possible to get the allowance in said hold.

- Initial Payment <0 to 1000> - how much you have to pay to get allowance in this hold.

- Prostitution Tax <Yes/No> / Amount <0 to 1000> / Period Length < 3 Days to 14 Days > - sets whether you have to periodically pay a fee to keep your allowance, how much and how often. You can pay to the steward and ensure that you will keep your allowance.

- Post-Expiration Pay Time <1 to 3 days> - sets how much time you've got after the expiration date to find the steward and pay him in order to keep your allowance. After that time the Prostitution Tax gets added to your bounty and will be added with every Period Length. Having Prostitution Tax added to your bounty means your Allowance will be taken away (and you will have to make the Initial Payment again)

- Legal: Always / in Inns Only / at Night / in Inns and at Night Only / at Night Outside - quite self explanatory. The Laws don't concern the Prostitute Always / only in inns / everywhere but only at night / only in inns and  only at night / in inns during the day and everywhere at night.

- Thane Automatic <Yes/No> / Thane Tax-Free - option to set if you get one automatically as a Thane and if it is free of the Prostitution Tax.

- Thane Inverted <Yes/No> Thane Punished <Yes/No> - As a Thane it may be illegal of you to ask for a Prostitution Allowance (Meaning you're told that you can't have one). / Thane Punished overwrites the answer of denial with an aggressive answer. What?! You're Thane now! A noble! And you want to fuck around like a lowlife?! No such luck with that option set to true! (Basic option -> Sent to jail. But if you had too much spare time Teutonic, PC bound in the Guard Barracks for the guards to use her)

 

Rule Exceptions - These would be simple additional rules for existing crimes.

- Exclude Daggers / Ammo <Yes/No> - When carrying a weapon (equipped or even in inventory) is forbidden, this way the player can exclude daggers and ammo from this law.

- Exclude Restoration <Yes/No> - When using magic is forbidden, this way the player can exclude restoration spells from this law.

- Exclude Race <Pick from the pool> - This would allow to make it (for example) easier for nords in Windhelm.

- Exclude Clothing <Yes/No> - Available only if you use Inverted Nudity Law. With this only wearing Light or Heavy Armor would be considered breaking the rules.

- Misogyny <Yes/No> - Pretty much every law... Excludes males from the law.

 

POP Soft Dependency - Perhaps we could have an option to decide (on hold basis) whether we want the POP jail or Vanilla jail?

 

#2 About automatic forcing NPC's to abide by the laws:

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<Below can be absolutely dismissed if Teutonic said anything about wanting to do this... I've seen some mention of the topic in this forum, but I just got here, and didn't really read through all the 54 pages ?>

 

It's really immersion breaking that only PC is considered for the crimes... It would be really amazing if we had here in SLAdv a mod which allows us to set some cities to naked only and automatically strip NPC's. And the fact that we have the same in Slaverun isn't really a reason not to make it an option here... Few reasons:

#1 - Slaverun strips only females so the functionality would be a bit different.

#2 - Slaverun is a very long and player slavery oriented mod which pretty much requires an entire playthrough and is simply giant (don't get me wrong, I enjoyed that playthrough, but I'm never going through all these lengthy scenes again, haha *Unless Kenjoka keeps working on it forever, which might make me try it out in a few years to see what has changed*)

#3 - The cities are enslaved in a specified order... and having set the SLAdv Laws to be semi lore friendly, only the initial Jarl of Falkreath seemed to be the kind of guy to use his power to force everyone to walk around naked, and then again only Maven (once she takes control of Riften after Empire-Friendly conclusion of Civil War) seemed fitting for an Inverted Collar Law... 

 

So yeah... Slaverun and SLAdv are two completely different mods so I don't see "Slaverun did it" as a valid reason not to have that option here.

 

#3 "Crimes and so on" suggestions:

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Skooma is Forbidden - just a simple feature so you can play without Skooma Whore. Drink Skooma you get a bounty. Thane could be exempt. Optional 'Even possession is a crime'.

 

Alcohol is Forbidden - not as simple as Skooma... Option to set it so that it isn't forbidden in Inns. Possibly a list to choose which are exempt of the rule (so for example in Maven controlled Riften you can only drink her brand of mead). Optional 'Even possession is a crime'.

 

Forbidden Attires - Some <Yes/No> toggles to forbid some clothes and armors in a given hold (Examples: Stormcloak; Imperial; Guard; Mage Robes; Enchanted; Black/Necromancer Robes; Daedric; Forsworn)

 

Bound Audience - As you enter a Jarl's Palace / Longhouse you are stopped by a guard who orders you to bind yourself before you'll be allowed further. He'll ask you to use your own devices (or notice that you've got them on already) and provide you with a set if you don't have correct devices. We have to keep the Jarls safe, right? MCM Configuration (Thane can be exempt completely or only partially, or have it worse):

- Toggles for Different Devices: Armbinder or Yoke or Bondage Mittens, Blindfold, Slave Boots (so you can't run), Hobble Skirt or a Straightjacket, Collar, Body Harness or a Corset...

- Naked Audience - So they're absolutely sure you're not hiding anything or just for the Jarls optical pleasure...

- Bring your own <Yes/No> - If 'no', the guard will always unlock you before you leave, but if 'yes', he will only help you out of those you brought yourself if you ask before leaving, and if he has to provide you with devices he will take away your keys and a set amount of gold as a fee and will not unlock them.

 

Dragonborn has to be Gagged - simple really, if you've started the Main Questline to the point where Balgruuf knows you're the Dragonborn, you have to wear a Gag in public places. Thanes could be exempt.

 

Chastity Law - Women have to wear chastity belts (optional bras and plugs), option 'Married Only', Inverted (Chastity devices are forbidden).

 

Hope you like the ideas

You could add a requirement to perform a sex act for the Jarl in order to gain an audience.  Whether it's with the Jarl in question or with his guard(s).....   If he's satisfied you get your audience.  If not..you might be required to humilate/degrade yourself even more depending on the whim of the Jarl.  Some of them are pretty skeevy in their own right.   Toggleable of course. 

 

Bound Audience and Gagged seems pretty logical.  I mean after all, your PC IS the Dragonborn and everyone's heard about how Ulfric shouted the previous High King to death.  The problem is, some quests require that the PC actually be able to speak though so Bound Audience might be better.  Again, it'd have to be toggleable though. 

 

I'd like add another potential "rule"  Require the PC to service guards of the faction controlling the area as a way to "boost" troop morale and demonstrate that the PC is loyal to the Jarl of that area.   And if you're a Stormcloak sympathizer in the holdings of a pro-Stormcloak Jarl....that could be a rough visit for her. 

 

[Celedhring]

20 hours ago, DarksideTinkerbell said:

I have been having a great deal of fun with this Mod. The rape function is well awesome, although it is a shame its just a Rape function and there is not an option for a Nymphomaniac player to conversationally get a bff/lover or follower to start a Gang Bang, just because they are bored or horny...

 

As to the buffs and debuffs, take a look at Sexlab Disparity, this Mod with that Mod and Sexlab Hormones are excellent combinations.  If you want a buff/debuff system that is beyand different, think old Martial Arts movies, the Drunken Warrior themes. In this case well, maybe as follows;

 

Erotic Sorcery: Gives bonuses to spell casting, magic regen debuffs physical skills and physical damage (ie, spells might do 1% more damage the hornier you are, may even have changed fx all spells have a special glow to them as an example, Magic regen increases likewise, while Melee Damage and maybe Unarmed decrease by an equal amount as does Stam Regen)

 

Erotic Combat basically the reverse of Erotic Sorcery

 

Erotic Arts: Smithing/Enchanting/Alchemy Skills increase while Lockpicking/pick pockets and Stealth decrease

 

Erotic Assassin the reverse of Erotic Arts

 

Erotic Mastery: This is well the Nymphomaniac in me, the idea is simple. You don't really want to hurt anybody/thing what you want is to subdue and the fuck their brains out. So I would suggest a special ability and earning such also (for balance) harder to achieve. Basically, Melee speed and spell casting speed increased maybe movement as well, Block Increased (although Bash attacks should do no damage but instead have a chance to stun), the counter is that melee/Unarmed and Spell damage are heavily debuffed. Why? Cause instead all attacks have a chance to subdue/stun. The special ability is simply that Stunned victims can then be raped, via "actioning them" like in defeat and other Mods, or temporarily can be charmed into willing sex slaves for the player (limited duration, if no sex within the time they snap out of the temp infatuation, if sex within the time chance of an extended stay?)

 

Easily add other packages (Erotic Sword Master, Erotic Archer) The Erotic Schools would kick in based on Arousal Level (personally I would say 80-100, but could McM the kick in, so players could if they wanted change it to what ever they want, 0-100 whatever). Leveling up in the Styles, easy, in McM  a player chooses 1 or maybe max 2 styles (if 2 then 1 would be a combat based style while the other would be a skill based style, ie, Style 1 Erotic Sorcery, Style 2 Erotic Destruction or Erotic Arts (whatever)) These skills have a set proc chance to activate while Horny (Base chance possibly set in McM) +1% everytime they proc (duration is for as long as they stay Horny, above the minimal arousal level), once a Style gets a 100% chance to proc that unlocks Erotic Mastery, if it is set as 2 Styles, 1 combat 1 skill based then Both have to get 100% proc skill before Mastery can be learned.

 

Mind you reading all that myself it looks like a pretty big addition, maybe a separate mod? I don't know, I have no idea the complexities of modding that scares me lol only hope to provide inspiration

 

Oh wow I just read all that, you could even base an entire quest line on the Erotic Styles or even just on Erotic Mastery. Maybe through Dibella? A note delivered after say 100 sex acts,"Dear Dragonborn, I have a gift if you chose to except, your sexual prowess has come to my attention so I would offer to teach you the mysteries of Erotic Mastery."

You should look into The Sisterhood of Dibella mod.   It's a favorite of mine. 

 

 

[DarksideTinkerbell]

3 hours ago, Celedhring said:

You should look into The Sisterhood of Dibella mod.   It's a favorite of mine. 

 

 

I have heard of it and do want to try, but it clashes with a favorite of mine, Shout like a Virgin. Mind you maybe it won't if I turn most of Shouts stuff off, I gotta admit often I have shout just for the Loving aspects and randomish Multiple Orgasms. As I have played it through numerous times. Sometimes I wish I knew how to take out of Mods the things I like and stick them into a private game. There would be a few I would cut and paste sort of thing, Slaveruns Carriage Driver Quest line and the Coloseum for one, Shout Wall/Stone/Dragon Mound Loving, oh and the potions (the psychodelic turn mushrooms into penises potions) and maybe even the PSQ quest in Slaverun (that would have to be the best lets become a Succubus quest I have seen).

[Celedhring]

13 hours ago, DarksideTinkerbell said:

I have heard of it and do want to try, but it clashes with a favorite of mine, Shout like a Virgin. Mind you maybe it won't if I turn most of Shouts stuff off, I gotta admit often I have shout just for the Loving aspects and randomish Multiple Orgasms. As I have played it through numerous times. Sometimes I wish I knew how to take out of Mods the things I like and stick them into a private game. There would be a few I would cut and paste sort of thing, Slaveruns Carriage Driver Quest line and the Coloseum for one, Shout Wall/Stone/Dragon Mound Loving, oh and the potions (the psychodelic turn mushrooms into penises potions) and maybe even the PSQ quest in Slaverun (that would have to be the best lets become a Succubus quest I have seen).

Normal procedure that I do when uninstalling a mod is uninstall the mod via my mod manager, then go to the saves I want to use with the new mod, clean those saves and then save again.  Then install the new mod.  I use Fallrim Tools, but it does corrupt saves once in a while. For this reason I make two copies of the same save game so I have one to fall back on if Fallrim ruins the save game I run through it.  I only clean the "unattached instances" which is what the author of Fallrim Tools recommends. 

 

Ultimately it's really up to you if you want to go through with it or not.  If it's a long running game that you're playing, I wouldn't bother as too many things can go wrong. 

[DarksideTinkerbell]

23 minutes ago, Celedhring said:

Normal procedure that I do when uninstalling a mod is uninstall the mod via my mod manager, then go to the saves I want to use with the new mod, clean those saves and then save again.  Then install the new mod.  I use Fallrim Tools, but it does corrupt saves once in a while. For this reason I make two copies of the same save game so I have one to fall back on if Fallrim ruins the save game I run through it.  I only clean the "unattached instances" which is what the author of Fallrim Tools recommends. 

 

Ultimately it's really up to you if you want to go through with it or not.  If it's a long running game that you're playing, I wouldn't bother as too many things can go wrong. 

Peaked my interest especially if it has something along the lines of what I mentioned above, so I Favorited it, in my "next playthough" file. 

[Lupine00]

2 hours ago, DarksideTinkerbell said:

Peaked my interest especially if it has something along the lines of what I mentioned above, so I Favorited it, in my "next playthough" file. 

I added that feature to SLD, so you can just ask for sex. It seems a bit random, as features go, but it was easy to add, for various reasons, so I did. It's quite basic though - so really only of interest to somebody who really, really wants that feature.

[Lupine00]

A random thought that occurred to me while unequipping my weapons on approach to Whiterun

 

An option so that buying/selling weapons is a crime, and you can only do it with a fence.

Blacksmiths will only deal with men (and possibly thanes), and say something sexist if you ask what they have for sale.

 

Obviously, some blacksmiths are female, but clearly we have special rules for the player.

 

Can achieve this by moving all weapons into the no vendor category, but a bit tedious to do for every weapon in the game.

[Lupine00]

On the topic of not being fined...

 

I found that using SLUTS Redux, I stopped being fined after a run. Very odd, as PC was naked and had tattoos.

 

I was also being "stalked" by a carriage guard who had been a previous rapist. He was also immortal. Useful, but also weird, and cheating.

This reminded me of the bug with SD+ spriggan sex, where you'd acquire half of Whiterun as "followers" on a somewhat long-term basis, and they'd just show up any time you slept or rested ... en masse.

 

It was apparent to me that the guard was stuck in a rapist alias for some mod or other.

 

The most likely candidate was SL Adventures ... and that seemed to correlate with not being fined.

 

So, I looked in the MCM - Debug options.

It said that I was stuck in a sex attack state, and there was a nice helpful message about how that suspends other events.

 

There is also an option to reset the rape system. I clicked it, and it fixed both the creepy immortal stalker and the lack of fines.

 

Very helpful, and exactly what was needed to fix the problem!

 

So, if your fines aren't firing at all, check to see if SL Adventures has any helpful information, and whether resetting rape fixes it.

[DarksideTinkerbell]

25 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

 

I was also being "stalked" by a carriage guard who had been a previous rapist. He was also immortal. Useful, but also weird, and cheating.

This reminded me of the bug with SD+ spriggan sex, where you'd acquire half of Whiterun as "followers" on a somewhat long-term basis, and they'd just show up any time you slept or rested ... en masse.

 

It was apparent to me that the guard was stuck in a rapist alias for some mod or other.

 

The most likely candidate was SL Adventures ... and that seemed to correlate with not being fined.

 

So, I looked in the MCM - Debug options.

It said that I was stuck in a sex attack state, and there was a nice helpful message about how that suspends other events.

 

There is also an option to reset the rape system. I clicked it, and it fixed both the creepy immortal stalker and the lack of fines.

 

Very helpful, and exactly what was needed to fix the problem!

 

So, if your fines aren't firing at all, check to see if SL Adventures has any helpful information, and whether resetting rape fixes it.

I discovered that like only just an hour ago, had problems in the past with stalkers, never dawned on me to check. Today though I was desperate, as i didn't want to kill Pike and Belamy yet (there are ways they are just impossibly hard to kill).

 

Gotta wander though how we accidently glitch them, I think it may be that the warning isn't noticed and we do an action, conversation or scene just as the Gang Rape starts for them which puts them in a loop.

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, DarksideTinkerbell said:

Gotta wander though how we accidently glitch them, I think it may be that the warning isn't noticed and we do an action, conversation or scene just as the Gang Rape starts for them which puts them in a loop.

I don't think you can ever kill an NPC in the SL Adventures rapist alias, because they are essential. You cannot disable them and you cannot kill them, without first removing essential flag, even using console kill command.

 

Many mods use a mechanic with essential alias for rapists who are given a follow package, or travel to player package, so you can get this bug with any mod that happens not to clear the aliases.

 

This can happen due to the usual stack dump reasons, but perhaps in other cases due to a race condition that causes a new rape to start just as one is finishing - this can be brought on by respect for DHLP suspend events, which can have unwanted side effect of binding end and start of rape together perfectly. It's also possible for the tracking of the aliases to be lost or overwritten, depending on how it is done, so there is no attempt to clear them. Depends on the mod.

 

In my case, I think something in SLUTS prevented the rape from terminating properly. SL Adv didn't respond to the animation end, perhaps due to some flag set that was stopping it, or due to combat start overlapping the rape startup, or DA bleedout.

 

SLUTS is a bit dodgy really. I took it out of my LO and made a new game. Not because of this specifically, but because of flaky tattoos, flaky escrow chests, lost gear, absurdly long deliveries, incompatibilities with Devious Cidhna, and failure of SLUTS dudes to enforce slavery after being sent for rehabilitation (never seen it work). All that and it has never provided any mechanic to make the deliveries a survivable game, instead just a crap-shoot where mostly you die, or at best trigger a defeat scenario, and if you have arachnophobia, really odd things happen.

[Celedhring]

5 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

On the topic of not being fined...

 

I found that using SLUTS Redux, I stopped being fined after a run. Very odd, as PC was naked and had tattoos.

 

I was also being "stalked" by a carriage guard who had been a previous rapist. He was also immortal. Useful, but also weird, and cheating.

This reminded me of the bug with SD+ spriggan sex, where you'd acquire half of Whiterun as "followers" on a somewhat long-term basis, and they'd just show up any time you slept or rested ... en masse.

 

It was apparent to me that the guard was stuck in a rapist alias for some mod or other.

 

The most likely candidate was SL Adventures ... and that seemed to correlate with not being fined.

 

So, I looked in the MCM - Debug options.

It said that I was stuck in a sex attack state, and there was a nice helpful message about how that suspends other events.

 

There is also an option to reset the rape system. I clicked it, and it fixed both the creepy immortal stalker and the lack of fines.

 

Very helpful, and exactly what was needed to fix the problem!

 

So, if your fines aren't firing at all, check to see if SL Adventures has any helpful information, and whether resetting rape fixes it.

Yeah the reset command in Sexlab Adventures has been VERY useful for fixing issues.   You can also enable debug messages so you know if it's actually running or not and if the crime laws are working or not but it can add up to quite a bit of text spam though especially if you're also using Apropos2 which I do.  

[CheddarTrauma]

On 12/20/2018 at 1:38 PM, Teutonic said:

Well, there are no errors with the sex tracker or crime system in the log. At least it does recognize you are in sex scenes now. Does the counter on the statistics page go up, even if you don't get a bounty?

 

I have noticed errors in the rape system and bounty calculation, for which I have attached a patch.

Patch.zip

Came here to report an error related to what this patch fixes.

 

PlayerSexTracker is always None in SLAdventures_RapeScript, which throws out papyrus errors when the script calls it.

Spoiler

Error: Cannot call iHasSex() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[SLAdventures_SexlabIntegration (7D00A4B5)].sladventures_rapescript.OnUpdate() - "SLAdventures_RapeScript.psc" Line ?
warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp25"
stack:
	[SLAdventures_SexlabIntegration (7D00A4B5)].sladventures_rapescript.OnUpdate() - "SLAdventures_RapeScript.psc" Line ?

 

 

Further investigation shows it's due to SLAdventures.esp not having the property PlayerSexTracker attached to SLAdventures_SexlabIntegration [QUST:0400A4B5]

Adding the property to the quest in the Creation Kit should properly fix it.

[Teutonic]

11 hours ago, hylysi said:

Came here to report an error related to what this patch fixes.

 

PlayerSexTracker is always None in SLAdventures_RapeScript, which throws out papyrus errors when the script calls it.

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Error: Cannot call iHasSex() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[SLAdventures_SexlabIntegration (7D00A4B5)].sladventures_rapescript.OnUpdate() - "SLAdventures_RapeScript.psc" Line ?
warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp25"
stack:
	[SLAdventures_SexlabIntegration (7D00A4B5)].sladventures_rapescript.OnUpdate() - "SLAdventures_RapeScript.psc" Line ?

 

 

Further investigation shows it's due to SLAdventures.esp not having the property PlayerSexTracker attached to SLAdventures_SexlabIntegration [QUST:0400A4B5]

Adding the property to the quest in the Creation Kit should properly fix it.

The patch addresses exactly that, since it fills the property at runtime. Filling the property in the esp won't fix it since the quest already started (unless you start a new game or make a clean reinstall). Future versions will propely fix this either way. 

[KuteKatty]

A Little bug: Some NPCs and Animals Will Follow you Permanently
my character Right now is being followed by Hemiskr,Brenium, and two wild wolfes, they follow you everywhere, even if you fast travel they will actually Run to your location

[DarksideTinkerbell]

18 minutes ago, DragonChickenBorn said:

A Little bug: Some NPCs and Animals Will Follow you Permanently
my character Right now is being followed by Hemiskr,Brenium, and two wild wolfes, they follow you everywhere, even if you fast travel they will actually Run to your location

the fix is in the debug menu, click on reset, if you see gangbang

[Lupine00]

Any chance we'll see an SL Adventures variant of the "Misogyny" feature in DCL?

 

It's currently a feature I leave on in DCL, but it's a bit broken because it tags you as victim, even when you aren't.

 

A more featureful alternative would be great. It always bugged me that there were absolutely zero conditions for it. It's just a flat chance.

 

 

Well... Here's how I'd do it, probably...

 

A demands-sex feature based on relationship level, gender, player arousal, devices, and NPC role.

 

Relationship level can be set to encourage or inhibit.

Gender can be set to give bonus/negative chance for males and females separately. Set to -max to disable that gender.

Devices have a configurable bonus for: (1) collar, (2) heavy bondage, (3) any visible devices

Belt prevents the feature

NPC's can be enabled/disabled based on job: vendor, inn-keeper, guard.

 

When triggered, speaking to NPC results in them demanding sex in a blocking dialog.

PC can reply with:

"Yes (eager)."

"Yes (reluctant)."

"No (evasive)."  - default response if you walk away

"No (fearful)."

"No (angry)."

 

Eager is always consensual anims, never rape.

Reluctant is mostly consensual anims, still never considered rape.

If PC says no, NPC may give up, take revenge, or rape.

 

Revenge will be an action like adding devices, particularly a belt, or making a false crime report.

Devices should never be added unless devices already present!

 

Rape speaks for itself. The NPC may summon helpers.

A belt may be added afterwards too. (Option to enable).

 

[karlpaws]

In the TDF prostitution thread the topic went off a bit, but some things came up there I thought could be future options of this mod.

 

The "Misogyny" feature sounds like it is along the same lines.

 

I was mostly thinking a copy of the rape conditionals that could trigger when speaking to an armor/weapons vendor (I think they can be identified that way, vs misc vs alchemy, since SkyTweak lets you change the amount of gold they have). I'm not sure what kind of dialog mess you'd get if it would only trigger on choosing the "shop" option vs any other dialog they might have... Was thinking of something like "hey little girl, you don't need to be buying armor or a sword. Run home to daddy." or something similar from weapons trainers or anyone that wouldn't think a lady should be out adventuring.

 

If that is too complex, maybe just a set of conditionals for when we speak to certain male NPCs as a female PC (or inverted for the Olfina's of Skyrim that want to get a little of their own back) that we can get a little "girls don't belong in solder camps unless they're camp followers. You want to be a battle maiden? Be my whore first." kinda line. Female NPCs could have a "treat me like you respect me" line that calls a cowgirl animation or something.