SexLab SE - Sex Animation Framework v1.66b - 01/18/2024

[Vyxenne]

12 hours ago, tekriax said:

When I try to play an animation using a converted matchmaker mod, no animation plays. <snip> It seems to me that the Sexlab animations are not being properly recognized as these default animations. <snip> I've ran FNIS <terminal snippery>

Failure of (any mod) to "find" the animation(s) it needs is a symptom of an omitted or unsuccessful GenerateFNISforUsers run. When you run it, you must see "Reading Sexlab Framework..." in the runtime log as it progresses. If you don't see that, there is something wrong with your FNIS or Sexlab Framework installation. You could also try re-Registering the animations in Sexlab Framework's MCM.

[tekriax]

1 hour ago, Vyxenne said:

Failure of (any mod) to "find" the animation(s) it needs is a symptom of an omitted or unsuccessful GenerateFNISforUsers run. When you run it, you must see "Reading Sexlab Framework..." in the runtime log as it progresses. If you don't see that, there is something wrong with your FNIS or Sexlab Framework installation. You could also try re-Registering the animations in Sexlab Framework's MCM.

Thanks a lot Vyx, I will try this again later. Maybe I need to completely delete all old FNIS stuff and reinstall it. 

[tekriax]

Alright so I tested a bit more, but I am still having the same problem. FNIS shows that it is reading Sexlab framework, and re-registering animations doesn't change anything. However, every time I try to initiate a sex act with newly registered animations, the anim cache 1 through 110 (conveniently the same amount of animations registered in sexlab) will say INVALIDATED in the console. I'm not sure what this means, does anyone know?

[FoxtrotTangoWhisky]

Installed this through mod organizer 2. Not working. Game won't even launch when it's enabled. Any tips?

[Ashal]

8 hours ago, tekriax said:

Alright so I tested a bit more, but I am still having the same problem. FNIS shows that it is reading Sexlab framework, and re-registering animations doesn't change anything. However, every time I try to initiate a sex act with newly registered animations, the anim cache 1 through 110 (conveniently the same amount of animations registered in sexlab) will say INVALIDATED in the console. I'm not sure what this means, does anyone know?

 

 

Is it just matchmaker doing it, or do other methods of starting animations work fine? Assuming by "converted matchmaker" you don't mean SexLab Lite's version (which isn't needed or compatible, the normal oldrim version should work fine.)

 

But it might be a bug with the new animation caching system in 1.63. So to help track it down for fixing in future versions, enable Skyrims papyrus debug logging if you haven't, load your save file, goto SexLab's MCM Rebuild & Clean page, and run the Clean System option, close menu and wait for the popup saying it's finished and wait another 30 seconds or so in case anything is still actually finishing up, and then, try initiating the sex animation again. Assuming it still isn't working, quit the game and upload the most recent papyrus log so I can take a look at what might have broke.

 

[JimKhan]

Something I've noticed with 1.63 is that it takes time to integrate changes in the MCM. For example, if I toggle a few animations off, it may not immediately start playing without them, or the opposite if I toggle them on. Oddly enough, the problem everyone seems to mention about animations taking a lot to start, isn't present with me. If I use Matchmaker, they start fast, with Spouses Enhanced they start a little slower but not by much. I've no idea why in my case it's acting so differently than reported.

[tekriax]

6 hours ago, Ashal said:

 

 

Is it just matchmaker doing it, or do other methods of starting animations work fine? Assuming by "converted matchmaker" you don't mean SexLab Lite's version (which isn't needed or compatible, the normal oldrim version should work fine.)

 

But it might be a bug with the new animation caching system in 1.63. So to help track it down for fixing in future versions, enable Skyrims papyrus debug logging if you haven't, load your save file, goto SexLab's MCM Rebuild & Clean page, and run the Clean System option, close menu and wait for the popup saying it's finished and wait another 30 seconds or so in case anything is still actually finishing up, and then, try initiating the sex animation again. Assuming it still isn't working, quit the game and upload the most recent papyrus log so I can take a look at what might have broke.

 

Here is the papyrus log after loading, cleaning the system, trying to initiate animations via matchmaker (not lite, completely converted), no animations playing, then exit game. I hope this helps and thanks for anything you come up with. 

 

P.S. the only other method I tried using was the new SL Defeat for SE. Same errors came up in the console. 

Papyrus.0.log

[Ashal]

6 hours ago, tekriax said:

Here is the papyrus log after loading, cleaning the system, trying to initiate animations via matchmaker (not lite, completely converted), no animations playing, then exit game. I hope this helps and thanks for anything you come up with. 

 

P.S. the only other method I tried using was the new SL Defeat for SE. Same errors came up in the console. 

Papyrus.0.log

 

Still no idea what you mean by converted. There is nothing to convert, the same version of matchmaker already works with both versions of Skyrim.

 

But in any case, you clearly messed something up with your SKSE install. 

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[05/01/2018 - 11:41:29AM] ERROR: Static function CreateFloatArray not found on object utility. Aborting call and returning None

All the stuff like that and various others are saying the SKSE added functions are missing. Reinstall it the latest SKSE and make sure nothing is overwriting its scripts.

 

Your RaceMenu scripts are also missing from the looks of it, but that's unrelated to your SexLab issue.

[tekriax]

2 hours ago, Ashal said:

Still no idea what you mean by converted. There is nothing to convert, the same version of matchmaker already works with both versions of Skyrim.

 

But in any case, you clearly messed something up with your SKSE install. 

All the stuff like that and various others are saying the SKSE added functions are missing. Reinstall it the latest SKSE and make sure nothing is overwriting its scripts.

 

Your RaceMenu scripts are also missing from the looks of it, but that's unrelated to your SexLab issue.

Well, I don't understand it, but I reinstalled SKSE (by no different method of course) and that seems to have fixed it somehow. Thanks for the help Ashal!

[rennex]

Does the cum function work with this SE version? I haven't seen any cum on my npcs, also after a certain period of time my animations toggle won't work(toggle off all my anal animations and toggle on vaginal animations.) sexlab will still play all the previous anal animations I had toggled before and ignore the vaginal  I just toggled to play instead, I have to roll back to a previous save to select what animations I want to use.

[Vyxenne]

1 hour ago, rennex said:

Does the cum function work with this SE version? I haven't seen any cum on my npcs, also after a certain period of time my animations toggle won't work(toggle off all my anal animations and toggle on vaginal animations.) sexlab will still play all the previous anal animations I had toggled before and ignore the vaginal  I just toggled to play instead, I have to roll back to a previous save to select what animations I want to use.

I've seen it several times in SSE with SL Framework 1.63 beta.

[Ashal]

1 hour ago, tekriax said:

Well, I don't understand it, but I reinstalled SKSE (by no different method of course) and that seems to have fixed it somehow. Thanks for the help Ashal!

You simply had mods overwriting and/or improperly installed SKSE scripts. SexLab, and many others, heavily rely on those script functions working. If what those scripts provide isn't present, things break. Simple.

 

Things like this are why I'm so adamant about any support request including a papyrus debug log. Though sadly, few actually do. The problem was immediately obvious just glancing at your log.

 

In any case, glad it wasn't a major bug with the caching system after all. Though I suspect @JimKhan's issue above is almost certainly caching related.  But that's likely just a simple cache invalidation issue when toggling animations that I can track down easy enough. 

 

 

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Sidenote: Anybody complaining about the game not starting has clearly either not fully read the OP after the beta 2 update, are trying to use beta 2 with an old version of Skyrim, or are using an outdated PapyrusUtilSE build that's overwriting SexLab's more current version (which matches current nexus version) I've updated the OP a bit to try and make it a bit more clear/obvious what you need to do when installing beta 2.

[MadMansGun]

On 1/12/2018 at 5:23 PM, Ashal said:

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you should remove these races/lines from sslCreatureAnimationSlots because MNC registers them as there own thing now:

AddRaceID("Chaurus", "ChaurusReaperRace")

AddRaceID("LargeSpiders", "FrostbiteSpiderRaceGiant")

AddRaceID("LargeSpiders", "_00ChaurusCrawlerRaceGiant")

AddRaceID("Wolves", "FoxRace")

 

sslCreatureAnimationSlots.psc

[Kristus Kringle]

1 hour ago, rennex said:

Does the cum function work with this SE version? I haven't seen any cum on my npcs, also after a certain period of time my animations toggle won't work(toggle off all my anal animations and toggle on vaginal animations.) sexlab will still play all the previous anal animations I had toggled before and ignore the vaginal  I just toggled to play instead, I have to roll back to a previous save to select what animations I want to use.

Cum working here (sse). If you are like me and install and uninstall stuff all the time, there will be problems and conflicts. I accept it. You can try running the clean function on various sexlab mods and it will sometimes fix niggling problems. If something seems to flat out not work, start a new game and see if it works, 99/100 it will. Also double and triple check all your dependencies, mod versions, check for updates, re-run your bashed or mashed patches, check your load order; and finally actually look through your data folder because occasionally I've found something installed in the wrong place. 

[Ashal]

12 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

you should remove these races/lines from sslCreatureAnimationSlots because MNC registers them as there own thing now:

AddRaceID("Chaurus", "ChaurusReaperRace")

AddRaceID("LargeSpiders", "FrostbiteSpiderRaceGiant")

AddRaceID("LargeSpiders", "_00ChaurusCrawlerRaceGiant")

AddRaceID("Wolves", "FoxRace")

 

sslCreatureAnimationSlots.psc

I'd rather MNC just modify the racekey list as needed in that case. As I'd prefer not to break the existing default animation compatibility for those creatures and people who don't use MNC. 

 

The easiest way to do that right now would be to register for the modevent SexLabRegisterCreatureKey and then in the callback just ClearRaceKey("xyz") and then redo the AddRaceID("xyz", "abcRace")'s that sslCreatureAnimationSlots does but without the mentioned races.

 

I'd also ideally prefer to just move all creature keys/animations registration to MNC instead of including it with SexLab while we're at it. But I feel like we're probably several years to far into it for that to be a smooth enough transition. 

[MadMansGun]

1 hour ago, Ashal said:

I'd also ideally prefer to just move all creature keys/animations registration to MNC instead of including it with SexLab while we're at it. But I feel like we're probably several years to far into it for that to be a smooth enough transition. 

that would certainly make things easier for me (assuming that "ScriptName MoreNastyCrittersFactory Extends sslAnimationFactory" would still work the same)

[TruthseekerD]

I installed this framework but it never loads the mcm settings i just get the pop ups that it's ready but nothing changes no matter how many times I've told it to install.

[JimKhan]

7 hours ago, Ashal said:

In any case, glad it wasn't a major bug with the caching system after all. Though I suspect @JimKhan's issue above is almost certainly caching related.  But that's likely just a simple cache invalidation issue when toggling animations that I can track down easy enough. 

Is there anything I could be doing on my end about it?

[Ashal]

50 minutes ago, JimKhan said:

Is there anything I could be doing on my end about it?

From your description; unlikely.

 

Sounds like a clear-cut case of what I need to fix. The system I put in for invalidating animations when they are toggled doesn't work well or fast enough to catch up in time for your animation. However, on the off chance, I'm wrong - I certainly won't reject some additional debug info if you want to do the same I listed above, just replace the matchmaker stuff with your own bug reported issue.

 

 

[JimKhan]

On 4/25/2018 at 7:28 AM, Vyxenne said:

Nooooooooooo! That is SoS-Light and will not work with SexLab 1.63! Uninstall both parts of Tempered Skins and install Schlongs of Skyrim SE. Be careful when you install it that you do NOT authorize it to overwrite XPMSSE. SoS has its own male nude body replacer, so for now you'll be fine. There's an argument a spirited discussion raging in one of the threads around here about how to use Tempered Skins with SoS-SE without having two schlongs per man, and once some consensus is reached you can always get your beautiful TS body back at a later date.

 

As to how you resave the Matchmaker plugin, just open it up in the Creation Kit (64-bit version for SSE and FO4) and after it finally loads up (Say "Yes to All" to all the error messages) simply click the little diskette symbol to save the plugin as a Form Type 44 (SSE) plugin. That's it.

That's odd, the SoS I'm using is the one that comes with Tempered Skins for males. I see no problem with it till today, it works fine. There's no mod configuration menu, if that's the issue but it's not bothering me at all. Besides, the mod was made for SSE anyways.

[JimKhan]

1 hour ago, Ashal said:

From your description; unlikely.

 

Sounds like a clear-cut case of what I need to fix. The system I put in for invalidating animations when they are toggled doesn't work well or fast enough to catch up in time for your animation. However, on the off chance, I'm wrong - I certainly won't reject some additional debug info if you want to do the same I listed above, just replace the matchmaker stuff with your own bug reported issue.

 

 

Alright then, I'll enable logging, trace and debuglogging and then see if I can find and post here the latest papyrus log.

[SleepyJim]

1 hour ago, JimKhan said:

On 25/04/2018 at 5:28 AM, Vyxenne said:

Nooooooooooo! That is SoS-Light and will not work with SexLab 1.63! Uninstall both parts of Tempered Skins and install Schlongs of Skyrim SE. Be careful when you install it that you do NOT authorize it to overwrite XPMSSE. SoS has its own male nude body replacer, so for now you'll be fine. There's an argument a spirited discussion raging in one of the threads around here about how to use Tempered Skins with SoS-SE without having two schlongs per man, and once some consensus is reached you can always get your beautiful TS body back at a later date.

 

As to how you resave the Matchmaker plugin, just open it up in the Creation Kit (64-bit version for SSE and FO4) and after it finally loads up (Say "Yes to All" to all the error messages) simply click the little diskette symbol to save the plugin as a Form Type 44 (SSE) plugin. That's it.

That's odd, the SoS I'm using is the one that comes with Tempered Skins for males. I see no problem with it till today, it works fine. There's no mod configuration menu, if that's the issue but it's not bothering me at all. Besides, the mod was made for SSE anyways.

SoS Light should be perfectly fine to use with the full version of SexLab in SSE, in just the same way that SoS Light is fine to use with the full version of SexLab in the original Skyrim. I think there was just some confusion about the "Light/Lite" part of its title. SexLab Lite mods generally don't work with full SexLab, but SoS is a different suite of mods so there should be no such problem.

[DoubleTrouble999]

10 hours ago, TruthseekerD said:

I installed this framework but it never loads the mcm settings i just get the pop ups that it's ready but nothing changes no matter how many times I've told it to install.

It sounds like you have SL Lite installed instead of SL Beta

[DoubleTrouble999]

14 hours ago, tekriax said:

Well, I don't understand it, but I reinstalled SKSE (by no different method of course) and that seems to have fixed it somehow. Thanks for the help Ashal!

If you had SL Lite in the past, it had installed utility.pex, which is also part of SKSE64

When SL Lite is being unistalled, it removes utility.pex and breaks SKSE64 installation

[TruthseekerD]

Okay I now have skse64 2.07 but my skyrim is outdated so skyui does not work, how do I get the 1.5.39 update?

please