SexLab SE - Sex Animation Framework v1.66b - 01/18/2024

[tasairis]

1 hour ago, OsmelMC said:

That Script is to prevent more than one syncEventDone running at the same time don have any other effect beside make the event wait until the previous is done. That should take less than 0.01 seconds and increase the value only slow the function.

 

I too have heard that 0.01s is too fast and that occasionally Papyrus won't let the thread yield its lock to others. Figure that at a slow 30fps, that's about 0.03s to wait for a single frame to pass.

[Caithness]

Seems SL Separate Orgasm needs updating for the SE version - widget appears but while the buttons drain stamina/magicka they have no effect on the excitement

Edited November 22, 2021 by Caithness

[Arizona_Steve]

2 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

That Script is to prevent more than one syncEventDone running at the same time don have any other effect beside make the event wait until the previous is done. That should take less than 0.01 seconds and increase the value only slow the function. 

 

I don't understand why you need to change the value since that particular log is harmless and usually is not more than one or two per Actor on each Animation stage. If you see too many you probably need to adjust the value of the fUpdateBudgetMS on the Skyrim.ini file

 

It causes hang ups on group sex acts, in addition to preventing sex acts from completing. This was a huge problem for me until I made the change. There is insignificant impact to this change, but it makes everything run a whole lot better.

[Darth Deathclaw]

I followed the instructions but yet my screen shows this when I try to install sexlab. It's showing neither question marks nor check marks next to the prerequisites. What am I missing? I did install a the downgrade mod BestOfBothWorlds to get SKSE to work, could that be fucking with it? On FNIS it's not showing any errors and it's showing what's bellow

Reading FNISBase V7.6 ...
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ...
Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1 ...
Reading SexLab V1.64 ...
Reading SexLabAP V1.64 ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.64 ...
Reading XPMSE V7.2 ...

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
No GENDER directory male
No GENDER directory female

 

[MadMansGun]

24 minutes ago, Darth Deathclaw said:

I did install a the downgrade mod BestOfBothWorlds to get SKSE to work, could that be fucking with it?

yes

[Darth Deathclaw]

4 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

yes

will I have to wait for a new version of SKSE then?

 

[Majinnoone]

I am still having the same issue as darth deathclaw however i get this every time i log in  no matter how many times i reinstall switch in-between versions and check all requirements are met  i have checked and i have replaced the dill in overwrite and the proper place multiple times. borrowed that other guy darths pic to remind you i cant even install  anymore inside of mcm i tried Ae and se i have Se as i never brought the AE however i did get upgraded because i didnt read the warning intill after the fact. now my game is ruined until this dill is fixed. 

Edited November 22, 2021 by Majinnoone

[OsmelMC]

2 hours ago, tasairis said:

 

I too have heard that 0.01s is too fast and that occasionally Papyrus won't let the thread yield its lock to others. Figure that at a slow 30fps, that's about 0.03s to wait for a single frame to pass.

I always play with 30 FPS as top. That Script is made to wait forever if is needed but just when is required. So I still don't understand what is the issue.

 

If someone tells me what is the real issue that are experiencing, I will be capable of find the problem and the solution.

[OsmelMC]

2 hours ago, Arizona_Steve said:

causes hang ups on group sex acts

What you mean when you say hang ups.

 

Explain to me what are you trying to do that cause you the issue.

Edited November 22, 2021 by OsmelMC

[dePog]

Hey OsmelMC

Not sure if you noticed my post relating to Futa's taking the incorrect position. Are you aware of the issue?

 

Cheers,

dePog

[Caithness]

Having upgraded to 1.63.7 from beta 9 I found SLSO doesn't work, and as that is integral to my SL build, I decided to roll back until it is updated. Turns out I will have to clean out the entire SL installation as it left something telling me I have rolled back when I log in, and SLSO still doesn't work properly despite the roll back. 

 

Edit - must be in the save game - totally wiped SL from my game directory, removed json files , reinstalled beta 9, still get the message, SLSO still not working. Save and reSaver check/clean doesn't work either (nothing detected)

Edited November 22, 2021 by Caithness

[OsmelMC]

15 minutes ago, dePog said:

Hey OsmelMC

Not sure if you noticed my post relating to Futa's taking the incorrect position. Are you aware of the issue?

 

Cheers,

dePog

 

The I don't get enough feedback from the users on my thread about Futa scenes so I'm not aware of any problem related with Futa Actors.

 

 

I have to confess that I done just few tests with futa Actors but all seems to be ok.

 

Of course SexLab don't recognize the actor as Futa at lease the Sexlab gender of the actor be different from his skyrim gender. Also the main Futa issue is the definition of the word in Self; this is controversial but being objective a futa character need penis and vagina to be considered a Futa. That means that a Futa can be on the Male and the Female positions without issues. That also means that a Futa Animation can only be called like that if the same Actor position have vaginal and penis animation; I see a lot of Animations called Futa when in fact are just Gay or Straight Animations. By the way some of the SexLab default Animations are in fact Futa Animations.

[feodor.icon]

OsmelMC,

The question is not only about SE. On LE I have Sexlab 1.62 and Utilits +

There, on the animation Futa, there is no way to turn on the strap-on. This is because women all have shlongs.

This is a feature of SOS - either to all shlongs or to anyone. Therefore, 80% have a shlong-plug. Visually, there is nothing.

Here they have a strapon and does not work. Probably still a question for you.

[4nk8r]

3 hours ago, Darth Deathclaw said:

I followed the instructions but yet my screen shows this when I try to install sexlab. It's showing neither question marks nor check marks next to the prerequisites. What am I missing? I did install a the downgrade mod BestOfBothWorlds to get SKSE to work, could that be fucking with it? On FNIS it's not showing any errors and it's showing what's bellow

Reading FNISBase V7.6 ...
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ...
Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1 ...
Reading SexLab V1.64 ...
Reading SexLabAP V1.64 ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.64 ...
Reading XPMSE V7.2 ...

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
No GENDER directory male
No GENDER directory female

 

 

2 hours ago, Majinnoone said:

I am still having the same issue as darth deathclaw however i get this every time i log in  no matter how many times i reinstall switch in-between versions and check all requirements are met  i have checked and i have replaced the dill in overwrite and the proper place multiple times. borrowed that other guy darths pic to remind you i cant even install  anymore inside of mcm i tried Ae and se i have Se as i never brought the AE however i did get upgraded because i didnt read the warning intill after the fact. now my game is ruined until this dill is fixed. 

Try going into 3rd person view before opening the MCM and trying to enable it.

[PippinTom]

2 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

The I don't get enough feedback from the users on my thread about Futa scenes so I'm not aware of any problem related with Futa Actors.

 

I'm pretty sure I've read at least few reports of bad sorting of actors in SLb9 long ago, so maybe they have been missed - well, shit happens - lot's of off-topics could easily cloud valid posts.

 

2 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

I have to confess that I done just few tests with futa Actors but all seems to be ok.

 

Of course SexLab don't recognize the actor as Futa at lease the Sexlab gender of the actor be different from his skyrim gender. Also the main Futa issue is the definition of the word in Self; this is controversial but being objective a futa character need penis and vagina to be considered a Futa.

 

As @dePog described, issue is that gender (role) set in sexlab for PC is MALE, and for NPC is FEMALE while on starting of the animation, positions are assigned in opposition to roles. I've see it so many times that I can't even say if there is any probability in it or it's just 100%-repro bug.

 

And it's wrong both ways: if PC has schlong assigned via mcm or if it wears a strap-on taken from it's own inventory. But that's not all - if that self-made (crafted) strap-on is set in SL MCM to "never strip" - then during some specific animations SL manages to assigns second strap-on (that black plastic dildo) to actor that already wears one - and that's weird.

 

Thing gets more unpredictable or weird with 3p+ scenes.

 

off-topic #1:

when PC is a schlongified aggressor in defeat sex scene involving NPC female - roles are also swapped, not only from male/female point of view, but also from aggressor/victim one

 

 

2 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

I see a lot of Animations called Futa when in fact are just Gay or Straight Animations. By the way some of the SexLab default Animations are in fact Futa Animations.

 

Well, some of animations are specifically made for Futa characters (I'll skip explanation here to save space) - and I NEVER saw them assigned properly to current set of actors - but that's not all - those specifically designed for futas animations are the only ones I see when two+ females (real females) are pumping air without any strap-on despite SL MCM settings.

 

off-topic #2:

SLEN has a functionality that as far as I can tell - supposed to detect schlongified (assigned by SOS) females which Roles are not properly set in the SL MCM, and treat them accordingly... well - that also does not work with SL163b9, while I think it did in beta 8.

 

 

So the problem is huge and still not even addressed as you say ? ?

Edited November 22, 2021 by PippinTom

[dePog]

2 hours ago, OsmelMC said:

 

The I don't get enough feedback from the users on my thread about Futa scenes so I'm not aware of any problem related with Futa Actors.

 

 

I have to confess that I done just few tests with futa Actors but all seems to be ok.

 

Of course SexLab don't recognize the actor as Futa at lease the Sexlab gender of the actor be different from his skyrim gender. Also the main Futa issue is the definition of the word in Self; this is controversial but being objective a futa character need penis and vagina to be considered a Futa. That means that a Futa can be on the Male and the Female positions without issues. That also means that a Futa Animation can only be called like that if the same Actor position have vaginal and penis animation; I see a lot of Animations called Futa when in fact are just Gay or Straight Animations. By the way some of the SexLab default Animations are in fact Futa Animations.

 

Thanks for the reply Osmel,

 

On LE and all SE versions up to, and including beta8, if you had a female character, and equipped her with an ERF Schlong or Bad Dog Female Hoodie, and set her as "Male" in Sexlab's MCM, then ...

- she would be treated as male by Sexlab and all other Sexlab related mods.
- she would take the male position when having sex with a female NPC

- she would take the female position when having sex with a male NPC

Beta9 and this final version of Sexlab SE broke that function. Now ...

- she takes the female position when having sex with a female NPC, who now wears a strap-on

- if you use the + hotkey to swap positions, the strap-on is put on your character (so you have a schlong and a strap-on)
 

All you need to do to test this is equip your female character with an SOS ERF Schlong, set her to male in Sexlab's MCM and go ask a female NPC for sex and see what happens.

 

Thanks again,

dePog

[PippinTom]

I just did clean test run to prove or falsify existence of the problem - papyrus attached.

1. test| PC (male role, schlongified) engaged with Lydia - anim selected by SL: "leito missionary" - positions assigned by SL: wrong ones - Lydia got strapon gift from SL, PC got fucked instead
2. test| plan was to use Defeat to snatch Danica, bag her and then fuck in the BreezeHome - but plan failed at final stage - PC got fucked by dildo attached to Danica

100% repro as it seems.

 

btw: PC == PissedCharacter here  

futa-sorting-fail--Papyrus.0.log

[dePog]

31 minutes ago, PippinTom said:

I just did clean test run to prove or falsify existence of the problem - papyrus attached.

1. test| PC (male role, schlongified) engaged with Lydia - anim selected by SL: "leito missionary" - positions assigned by SL: wrong ones - Lydia got strapon gift from SL, PC got fucked instead
2. test| plan was to use Defeat to snatch Danica, bag her and then fuck in the BreezeHome - but plan failed at final stage - PC got fucked by dildo attached to Danica

100% repro as it seems.

 

btw: PC == PissedCharacter here  

futa-sorting-fail--Papyrus.0.log 124.09 kB · 0 downloads

Thank you PippinTom

I am so glad that someone is backing me up. I have been on this issue since beta9 came out and everyone thought I was doing some noob load order BS. 

[haichap8]

Hi all, with the AE update does SLAL break (latest sexlab version)?
I'm aware Jcontainer is not updated and SLAL is not finding any animation in my game but needed confirmation.

[mikesolo1975]

15 hours ago, 4nk8r said:

At any rate, XPMSE is being maintained by FactoryClosed/BakaFactory, possibly among others as well.  "The XMPSE Team"

Where I can find that  version of the XPMSE ? 

[shiagwen]

i am new to SE and nothing works. maybe someone can help. first : i dont see any exit button to leave the game. second i have skyui, but where is mcm ? more will follow when these work.

[NOOBIV]

1 hour ago, dePog said:

Thank you PippinTom

I am so glad that someone is backing me up. I have been on this issue since beta9 came out and everyone thought I was doing some noob load order BS. 

I was having that issue too, female flagged as male in SL taking female position and the female flagged as female in SL taking the male position using a strapon, for me it happens always until i reload the game, if it occurs again, i have to reload the game again until they get into the correct positions

Edited November 22, 2021 by NOOBIV

[4nk8r]

3 hours ago, mikesolo1975 said:

Where I can find that  version of the XPMSE ? 

nexusmods

[4nk8r]

2 hours ago, NOOBIV said:

I was having that issue too, female flagged as male in SL taking female position and the female flagged as female in SL taking the male position using a strapon, for me it happens always until i reload the game, if it occurs again, i have to reload the game again until they get into the correct positions

Not that this is a permanent fix, but you can hit = (equal/equate) key (default key binding) and everyone will swap positions.  If there are more than 2, you may have to cycle it more than once to get the arrangement you'd like to see happening.

[dePog]

2 minutes ago, 4nk8r said:

Not that this is a permanent fix, but you can hit = (equal/equate) key (default key binding) and everyone will swap positions.  If there are more than 2, you may have to cycle it more than once to get the arrangement you'd like to see happening.

Thanks for the suggestion, but here is what happens when you try that

1. Animation starts and my character (Futa female assigned as Male in Sexlab) gets put in the receiving position. The female NPC gets a strap-on  and assumes the male role.
2. [press =]
3. Female NPC takes correct female position. My character gets fitted with a strap-on over the top of her already equipped Futinari schlong.