PAH - And you get a slave! (LE/SE)

[CliftonJD]

2 hours ago, sonjohandbzx said:

I'm level 11, got the quest to do.
But stuck with Chloe quest and can't fast travel atm.
I don't intend to crowd Breezehome.

 

But how do I switch a slave to train others?

tell the slave to train a slave. if you're ready to train another slave before that's completed, you say "about the slave you're training" "you can stop training that slave now". then tell it to train the other slave

[sonjohandbzx]

39 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

tell the slave to train a slave. if you're ready to train another slave before that's completed, you say "about the slave you're training" "you can stop training that slave now". then tell it to train the other slave

I don't get the option.

[CliftonJD]

5 minutes ago, sonjohandbzx said:

I don't get the option.

oh i was assuming you have home sweet home installed. you should have the option in a home with a permanent house marker from pardo

[sonjohandbzx]

8 hours ago, CliftonJD said:

oh i was assuming you have home sweet home installed. you should have the option in a home with a permanent house marker from pardo

I have HSH, but haven't been to the Restless Hunter yet.

Still, on my other account I don't get the option for my regular slaves, only the one I bought in the auction has it, but it does nothing.

 

Other thing that happened is the pit fights: I'm there at noon, I have no additional conversation options with the pit master, and they all disappear.

 

My games are very unstable since I installed PAH HSH & AYGAS.(CTD getting close to certain locations, opening loot) Maybe something is wrong in my installation?

Can't find anything in Papyrus logs

[CliftonJD]

6 hours ago, sonjohandbzx said:

My games are very unstable since I installed PAH HSH & AYGAS.(CTD getting close to certain locations, opening loot) Maybe something is wrong in my installation?

Can't find anything in Papyrus logs

update pahe then click the status from its mcm page to reboot it. wait til its finished and it may take some time if you have a number of slaves. after pahe gives the message its finished, save/quit and reload from desktop. if you still have trouble after that's completed, post your log for help with it

6 hours ago, sonjohandbzx said:

Other thing that happened is the pit fights: I'm there at noon, I have no additional conversation options with the pit master, and they all disappear.

 

if you still have trouble with it after updating pahe, post the log for those problems as well. maybe musje can find something

6 hours ago, sonjohandbzx said:

Still, on my other account I don't get the option for my regular slaves, only the one I bought in the auction has it, but it does nothing.

you need to train the slaves in pahe before they can train others in hsh Or have the slave you bought from the auction train your other slaves in hsh. if you still have trouble with hsh after updating pahe, try bringing the slave back out of hsh then wait for the pahe dialogs to restore and put them back into hsh. if you still have further trouble with hsh, you might get better responses here:

 

[GuruSR]

Brothel, Markarth, DON'T!

 

If you have not done the Forsworn quest in Markarth, don't make a brothel with ANY Forsworn slaves, as the Forsworn WILL show up as patrons!  You can imagine what happens (the Forsworn murder all the townfolk).

 

GuruSR.

[CliftonJD]

1 hour ago, GuruSR said:

Brothel, Markarth, DON'T!

 

If you have not done the Forsworn quest in Markarth, don't make a brothel with ANY Forsworn slaves, as the Forsworn WILL show up as patrons!  You can imagine what happens (the Forsworn murder all the townfolk).

 

GuruSR.

get me a console screenshot of your forsworn slave that you feel has drawn a forsworn audience and i'll see if there are any factions i can clear to help prevent that (unless you had multiple forsworn slaves at the brothel...that might involve screenshots of each 1)

[GuruSR]

On 11/25/2020 at 9:43 PM, CliftonJD said:

get me a console screenshot of your forsworn slave that you feel has drawn a forsworn audience and i'll see if there are any factions i can clear to help prevent that (unless you had multiple forsworn slaves at the brothel...that might involve screenshots of each 1)

I'll click on one to see the base actor, next time I'm there, doing testing for other stuff at the moment, but I'll return to this when I can.  My thought would be to check the faction rank against the playerfaction rank of the base actor using the faction list from SKSE.  Pretty sure they're from your regular Forsworn outside of Markarth because I hadn't done the quest inside Markarth yet, so that is where I'd have found them, I think in that one fort where you do the retrieval for Diabella, the place is full of them.

 

GuruSR.

[CliftonJD]

2 hours ago, GuruSR said:

I'll click on one to see the base actor, next time I'm there, doing testing for other stuff at the moment, but I'll return to this when I can.  My thought would be to check the faction rank against the playerfaction rank of the base actor using the faction list from SKSE.  Pretty sure they're from your regular Forsworn outside of Markarth because I hadn't done the quest inside Markarth yet, so that is where I'd have found them, I think in that one fort where you do the retrieval for Diabella, the place is full of them.

 

GuruSR.

but my thoughts on it are that if they have a quest that effects their hostilities with the townies, its likely a special faction assigned for the task...unless all forsworn become happy people after completing that quest. i've never completed it to compare results

[GuruSR]

On 11/27/2020 at 12:04 PM, CliftonJD said:

but my thoughts on it are that if they have a quest that effects their hostilities with the townies, its likely a special faction assigned for the task...unless all forsworn become happy people after completing that quest. i've never completed it to compare results

Well, they must be in the Forsworn faction and when you're in jail you're in the faction of the jail which is "friendly" to Forsworn until the quest ends, then you get removed from it, so they become hostile again.

 

But, from what I saw the newcomer wasn't hostile to me, but the townfolk were freaking out, so MY forsworn slaves came and murdered the townfolk, then walked away when they were dead.

 

GuruSR.

[CliftonJD]

On 11/30/2020 at 8:21 PM, GuruSR said:

Well, they must be in the Forsworn faction and when you're in jail you're in the faction of the jail which is "friendly" to Forsworn until the quest ends, then you get removed from it, so they become hostile again.

 

But, from what I saw the newcomer wasn't hostile to me, but the townfolk were freaking out, so MY forsworn slaves came and murdered the townfolk, then walked away when they were dead.

 

GuruSR.

ya, that makes sense. the player's slave faction makes them friendly to the player but it won't control their aggression towards the townies. i don't recall if i've ever taken a forsworn slave to town to see the results nobody else has reported it. if you can share a screenshot of their console id, i can take a look at those factions for a fix

 

i for some reason haven't been able to get a console image to show up for me in sse. so if you can't either, i'll need to try it from Le

[CliftonJD]

hmm, so nothing goes wrong by selling the forsworn in markarth. but opening a brothel of forsworn causes them to go mad?

[astor]

I have Interactive BDSM installed, yet this mod doesn't show it as active in it's list. Instead of "OK" like the other installed mods, it just shows "--".

[CliftonJD]

2 hours ago, astor said:

I have Interactive BDSM installed, yet this mod doesn't show it as active in it's list. Instead of "OK" like the other installed mods, it just shows "--".

did you choose the proper patch for it from fomod installer

[astor]

59 minutes ago, CliftonJD said:

did you choose the proper patch for it from fomod installer

I did. Probably just a mod conflict that i'll have to track down.

[tinkerbelle]

56 minutes ago, astor said:

I did. Probably just a mod conflict that i'll have to track down.

In my game, the AndYouGetASlave (AYGAS) ModConfigurationMenu (MCM) entry shows many things as not installed, although I have them installed and chose them in the FoMod.  They still seem to work, they just aren't showing as installed in AYGAS.

 

[DonQuiWho]

35 minutes ago, tinkerbelle said:

In my game, the AndYouGetASlave (AYGAS) ModConfigurationMenu (MCM) entry shows many things as not installed, although I have them installed and chose them in the FoMod.  They still seem to work, they just aren't showing as installed in AYGAS.

 

Did you install AYGAS first?  My recollection is that the installer will only prompt/add those mods already in the game at the time AYGAS is installed.  So if you add them afterwards, AYGAS may not 'see' them

 

Have you tried reinstalling AYGAS again to see if that helps pick them up OK?

[tinkerbelle]

17 hours ago, donkeywho said:

Did you install AYGAS first?  My recollection is that the installer will only prompt/add those mods already in the game at the time AYGAS is installed.  So if you add them afterwards, AYGAS may not 'see' them

 

Have you tried reinstalling AYGAS again to see if that helps pick them up OK?

Thanks for your advice.  I use ModOrganizer2 (MO2), so installing first or last is sort of up to ModOrganizer and the order of my list.  However, I've updated AYGAS (AndYouGetASlave) and re-run the FoMod during that update, with no improvement.  But the unchecked mods still work within AYGAS, so I haven't been worried about it.  I've played a little bit with my mod order when installing but with no different results.  Most of the mods showing as missing are before AYGAS in the load order, some were tried as later, both with no difference.

 

Since I avoid learning too much about the program details, I suppose that something about the way the FoMod installer works (or doesn't) along with the MO2 virtual mod file system could have an effect.

 

[DonQuiWho]

2 hours ago, tinkerbelle said:

Thanks for your advice.  I use ModOrganizer2 (MO2), so installing first or last is sort of up to ModOrganizer and the order of my list.  However, I've updated AYGAS (AndYouGetASlave) and re-run the FoMod during that update, with no improvement.  But the unchecked mods still work within AYGAS, so I haven't been worried about it.  I've played a little bit with my mod order when installing but with no different results.  Most of the mods showing as missing are before AYGAS in the load order, some were tried as later, both with no difference.

 

Since I avoid learning too much about the program details, I suppose that something about the way the FoMod installer works (or doesn't) along with the MO2 virtual mod file system could have an effect.

 

I'm not 100% certain that I explained properly what I meant, or exactly what you have done  LOL

 

The point I was trying to make it was the 'timing' of the install that might matter, not 'where' you place the mods in the L/H or R/H pane order after having installed them.  Not saying the latter doesn't matter, as the L/H pane, importantly, shows scripts order of precedence etc, but some installers only 'see' mods that have been loaded prior to the one you are installing and only then include the necessary scripts to ensure that they run OK

 

But if you have it working, well, all to the good ?

[pinky6225]

Seems you can get some odd slave owners, playing miars lair and noticed was a new NPC and when i checked her owners mark seems to be the slave of a slave hanging up in the back

 

 

 

Is there way to change ownership? as that npc doesnt have any dialogue due to the gag

[sidfu]

found a bug where you get the handler perk before you  have enough slavery. we also need tooltips for slavery level. as i couldnt remember when they start having auctions.

[tinkerbelle]

5 hours ago, sidfu said:

we also need tooltips for slavery level. as i couldnt remember when they start having auctions.

 

I believe that auctions in a city start when the city slavery level is about 3 or 4.  A tooltip would be nice, but for now, ask a guard of the city in question.  An answer along the lines of, "You can find slaves and buyers of slaves at the city auction", indicates that auctions are enabled.  If there's a auction available now, the guard will add, "There's one going on right now", or something like that.

 

[Lackom]

Is there a way to disable the events and pit fights ? I have checked the option to do so but the slavers still appear in Falkreath with 4 local slaves.

[sidfu]

On 12/16/2020 at 12:06 AM, Lackom said:

Is there a way to disable the events and pit fights ? I have checked the option to do so but the slavers still appear in Falkreath with 4 local slaves.

for now nope they will stil spawn but dont thhink the vents happen. just ignore them they wont hurt anything.

 

[Ghostphoto]

[12/18/2020 - 02:59:37PM] Warning: Property PatronRef1 on script aygasworkdetectorscript attached to aygasWorkDetector (3B012726) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property.  Last entry on my script before CTD.  Did I do something wrong?  Include this mod in my Wyre Bash when I shouldn't have?