Mass Effect Andromeda for Haters

[sora3]

I agree that it is a good game but the problem is that it has Mass Effect on it. From that, everyone would associate this with the trilogy and make comparisons with it. In any case, here's probably what I've discovered after about 10 hours worth.

 

1) Character creation is shat. The limited options makes it very very painful to create a Ryder that is uniquely you. In many cases, DA:I is much better than ME:A which is saying a lot.

 

2) Facial animations makes it really hard to humanise the characters. It is either very comical or very campy and that is not in a good way. Too often, I felt rather let down by the shit animations which had my character comically smiling or in wide-eyed disbelief that borders into stupidity. And it spoils the writing of the conversations. This is another reason why the animators deserve to be roasted as the Witcher 3 is able to pull this off, why can't you?

 

3) Combat is very iffy as well. Too often, I enjoy the frantic pace of it but the stupidity of the AI makes me go WTF many times such as enemies that are frozen in place which allows pot shots into their weak spots easily or dumb AI team mates that think it's funny to block my shot that could have killed it. And don't get me started on the lack of healing. WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A BRILLIANT IDEA NOT TO HAVE A MANUAL HEAL IN BATTLE?!

 

4) Writing is good as it deserves to be a different story. However, I do feel that I was playing Mass Effect 1 in HD without Shepard. They didn't make Ryder any different to Shepard. You're the one who is to find a new world order whilst killing the bad guys that wants to wipe us out.

 

5) The Nomad is a let down. Yes, I get that it is a civilian transport and it is fun as trying to push this thing as far as possible. But give us the options to mount guns and do something other than ramming the shit out of enemies...

 

6) Bugs and optimisations are sorely needed as I had AI walk out of conversations, AI teammates wandering around which distracts the conversation, the game crashing when I was trying to change colours of my uniform, etc. For a game that costed $40 million, this is definitely NOT the way to do it. At least it wasn't Destiny-esque...

 

Overall, it is a fun game as it is. But I'd definitely suggest NOT getting it until the bugs and optimisations are fixed for it.

[makico]

 

 

 

 

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I hate this kind of junk video .  Yutubers do these collages only for visibility .

I not like most of facial animation but not see many of thase bug  and the game is enjoyable with the wrong facail too .

 

too many trolls infest internet believe experts of everything .

[Jazzman]

 

mostly from people that haven't even played the game?

 

That's a moot point because once you've bought the game you've already supported the company behind it.

 

Your point is just political sanctionism - Washington, kiddo-style. Or do you really believe that games are played to support the company behind? Hmmm. If so, why do we actually support a sanctioned Russia by buying Russian rockets in order to spy on Russia? Indeed, we do. You see, the grown-ups ain't too bright either when they try to justify their silly sanction agenda.

 

Once I've beaten the game and the thumb goes down then there will be no Andromeda sequel anymore for me. End of story. That's how it's done IRL and not perhaps preemptively and selectively as in monkey business.

[Quillon]

 

https://youtu.be/7KWkao73HuU

 

 

 

 

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I hate this kind of junk video . Yutubers do these collages only for visibility .

I not like most of facial animation but not see many of thase bug and the game is enjoyable with the wrong facail too .

 

too many trolls infest internet believe experts of everything .

You enjoy the game. Okey. Im not takin it from you, dude.

I enjoy those bugs, glitches and emotionless, cold character animations, which want to murder everyone around them.

It's hilarious.

 

And I don't care about Mass Effect Andromeda, really.

 

Mass effect died long time ago alongside Shepard.

[D_ManXX2]

lot of silliness in this thread. ignorant silliness mostly. mostly from people that haven't even played the game? from what i can tell?

 

i've got about 22 hours in. and i'm loving it. is it perfect? no. there is a certain lack of emotional conveyance at times in the animations. not all the time. in fact, not even much of the time. the UI could use a little work. it's really not that bad once you figure out some shortcuts.

 

it's hella fun. gameplay is on point. combat is ass kicking. it's beautiful. you feel like you're making a difference. you're effects on the worldspace are felt. you change the entire climate of places even lol.

 

i'm not gonna try and argue. what good would that do? all i'll say further is this:

 

if you enjoyed the mass effect series, you'll like this game. if you enjoyed mass effect AND dragon age: inquisition, you will LOVE this game. because it's pretty much the best of both of those worlds.

 

Read the main page this thread is for the haters if you want to be bio bitch post in general section of mass effect.

[LukeDuke]

It's funny that people who ''love'' (LOL) the game come here and tell us that we are so wrong, but when one of us will post something negative in the general thread we will be warned or threads will be separated.. 

[Quillon]

It's funny that people who ''love'' (LOL) the game come here and tell us that we are so wrong, but when one of us will post something negative in the general thread we will be warned or threads will be separated..

Yep, exactly.

Its kinda pointless to defend the game here, since so many people will go berserk. Aka... after all, it's bitchin' topic about Mass Effect Andromeda.

And it's seriously on almost same category of first No man's Sky release.

 

But thumbs up, for people, who make constructive criticism about good parts of Mass effect.

 

Personally... Bioware sold this game, purely because of its title name, without putting that much of an effort.

I'll skip animation parts, because... It's that bad.

But mainly... it was far easier to but Fallout like conversation options, since making Paragon/Renegade option, which would game have to track down, was very hard to do.

That's pure laziness.

Game feels like... blank, emotionless, characterlcharacterless space shooter. Sure, it's gameplay is fun. But Mass effect is about story, not gameplay

 

Of course... if you want to categorize Mass Effect: Andromeda America as ME game.

(Which it isn't, since it's "tryhard" version of ME to stay cool with modern time)

[winny257]

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I hate this kind of junk video . Yutubers do these collages only for visibility .

I not like most of facial animation but not see many of thase bug and the game is enjoyable with the wrong facail too .

 

too many trolls infest internet believe experts of everything .

You enjoy the game. Okey. Im not takin it from you, dude.

I enjoy those bugs, glitches and emotionless, cold character animations, which want to murder everyone around them.

It's hilarious.

 

And I don't care about Mass Effect Andromeda, really.

 

Mass effect died long time ago alongside Shepard.

 

 

and I hate such types, the hours long play a game and as long search, until they find an error!

they get then an orgasm when they put these videos on the Internet.

Ah I found a mistake, but now fast wanking! 

Only strange is, that no one so much criticism and hate, for Skyrim applied!

Skyrim is more than grottoes bad, there are thousands of bug videos, but everyone just laughs.

[Quillon]

But Skyrim wasn't made as game, which relied 50% on pure story.

Mass Effect, unlike Skyrim is story driven.

Skyrim is open world RPG, which never relied on animations. They relied on creativity and freedom of player character. You can follow Skyrim story, but it won't offer that much animation glitches, terrible cutscenes or even sluggish dialogue. Your character can be anyone, which any story you want.

 

Mass effect Andromeda has thrown player into role of Ryder, given specific options and not that much freedom, followed by terrible game execution.

And unlike Skyrim, people can't mod out problems so easily.

By the way... I personally find this video hilarious, because of funny bugs and glitches. Not because someone took time to find every single bug.

Unless Bioware does some serious changes, Andromeda will remain a joke.

[GrimReaper]

 

Your point is just political sanctionism - Washington, kiddo-style. Or do you really believe that games are played to support the company behind? Hmmm. If so, why do we actually support a sanctioned Russia by buying Russian rockets in order to spy on Russia? Indeed, we do. You see, the grown-ups ain't too bright either when they try to justify their silly sanction agenda.

 

Once I've beaten the game and the thumb goes down then there will be no Andromeda sequel anymore for me. End of story. That's how it's done IRL and not perhaps preemptively and selectively as in monkey business.

 

 

You don't seem to quite understand the statement you're defending here - by that statement, you have no right to not buy a game before you've actually bought it. So if you end up not liking Andromeda to the point where you don't want to purchase the next game from Bioware you are preemptively judging the next game. You haven't played it, after all, so you can't judge it.

 

Besides, not 'we' and much less 'I' are buying rockets from russia. What each individual does is his or her business, so what you or some politicians do is beyond my control and responsibility. You're right that by playing a game you're not automatically supporting the company that made and/or published the game, but by buying the game you sure as hell do. This has nothing to do with your intention, it's just a consequence that naturally follows.

[Alva]

I "hate" Andromeda because of ME3 ending - yeah, I'm petty and carry a grudge - but it's my money. Bioware went from "insta-preorder" to "maybe" with DA2 but ME3 ending just screwed over the fanbase and now Bioware games rank "possible when in the bargain bin".
And the shitty animations and ongoing flack for it is just pure cake with fanbois defence as icing.

 

 

I miss the old Bioware before consol-ifications and EA but we cannot go back, so I went elsewhere.

 

[Chekist]

lot of silliness in this thread. ignorant silliness mostly. mostly from people that haven't even played the game? from what i can tell?

 

i've got about 22 hours in. and i'm loving it. is it perfect? no. there is a certain lack of emotional conveyance at times in the animations. not all the time. in fact, not even much of the time. the UI could use a little work. it's really not that bad once you figure out some shortcuts.

 

it's hella fun. gameplay is on point. combat is ass kicking. it's beautiful. you feel like you're making a difference. you're effects on the worldspace are felt. you change the entire climate of places even lol.

 

i'm not gonna try and argue. what good would that do? all i'll say further is this:

 

if you enjoyed the mass effect series, you'll like this game. if you enjoyed mass effect AND dragon age: inquisition, you will LOVE this game. because it's pretty much the best of both of those worlds.

 

I did preorder the game as soon as it became available. And I played, purchased and liked EVERY Bioware game (except for mobile stuff, never played it). That includes that Mechwarrior rip-off and MDK2 in the 90s. Hell, I even liked SWTOR (the MMO), and still think that imperial agent story in that game is a masterpiece...

 

Said that, I think that Mass Effect: Andromeda is their worst game yet. I didn't like DA:I much, but I recognize it's quality. It had good writing, decent story and interesting characters. Bad combat and gameplay though (too mmo'ish for my taste). But Andromeda is just..subpar on all fronts except for the combat.

 

The biggest problem with Andromeda is the fact that it positions itself as a rpg, and gets treated as rpg, but you don't find much roleplaying in this game. You just don't have the options to be any Ryder that isn't the default "golden-hearted teenage explorer". It's almost like Bioware Montreal didn't understand what a rpg is and what made Mass Effect games great.

 

Add the character models, poor animations and bugs in the mix and you'll have not just a weakest bioware game yet, but a fucking awful product that is below triple A standards in 2017, and a product that rightfully deserves to be mocked and bashed, just so EA/Bioware get in touch with the reality that this stuff is not acceptable. I repeat, it deserves severe bashing as a product, not a game. Because below all the bugs, bad character models and awful animations lies an ok-ish story driven 3rd person shooter. Not great, or good. But ok-ish, worth ~20$ for 30 hours of your entertainment.

 

I think that is important to make distinction between a product and a game. Game can improve or get fixed with the patches/mods/dlcs. Product is what you get for your money on a release date.

 

P.S. And Mass Effect Andromeda in a state that it is right now for 60$ in 2017 is not acceptable. EA seems to understand that, hence it's 24% discount (which is still not acceptable). 

[FauxFurry]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I hate this kind of junk video . Yutubers do these collages only for visibility .

I not like most of facial animation but not see many of thase bug and the game is enjoyable with the wrong facail too .

 

too many trolls infest internet believe experts of everything .

You enjoy the game. Okey. Im not takin it from you, dude.

I enjoy those bugs, glitches and emotionless, cold character animations, which want to murder everyone around them.

It's hilarious.

 

And I don't care about Mass Effect Andromeda, really.

 

Mass effect died long time ago alongside Shepard.

 

 

and I hate such types, the hours long play a game and as long search, until they find an error!

they get then an orgasm when they put these videos on the Internet.

Ah I found a mistake, but now fast wanking! 

Only strange is, that no one so much criticism and hate, for Skyrim applied!

Skyrim is more than grottoes bad, there are thousands of bug videos, but everyone just laughs.

 

You know better than to say that no one hates Skyrim or any other Bethesda Game Studio games for their bugs or general brokenness upon launch or even many years later after most of the bugs have been fixed. Are you just going to ignore the posts of people like Kendo who have deep contempt for those games in their unmodded state?

 

Most people tend not to dwell on it now because the game is not only 5 years old at this point but it was created for the previous generation of consoles. They don't care so much about the bugs or errors of Dragon Age: Origins or Mass Effect 1 for the exact same reasons.

 

Give it some time and people will quit caring about Mass effect Andromeda once the hype backlash dies down. They will probably forget that the game exists or put it in the same category as Deus Ex: Invisible War but no one bothers to make videos about how disappointing Deus Ex: Invisible War is anymore.

[Quillon]

 

 

 

 

https://youtu.be/7KWkao73HuU

 

 

 

 

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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I hate this kind of junk video . Yutubers do these collages only for visibility .

I not like most of facial animation but not see many of thase bug and the game is enjoyable with the wrong facail too .

 

too many trolls infest internet believe experts of everything .

You enjoy the game. Okey. Im not takin it from you, dude.

I enjoy those bugs, glitches and emotionless, cold character animations, which want to murder everyone around them.

It's hilarious.

 

And I don't care about Mass Effect Andromeda, really.

 

Mass effect died long time ago alongside Shepard.

and I hate such types, the hours long play a game and as long search, until they find an error!

they get then an orgasm when they put these videos on the Internet.

Ah I found a mistake, but now fast wanking!

Only strange is, that no one so much criticism and hate, for Skyrim applied!

Skyrim is more than grottoes bad, there are thousands of bug videos, but everyone just laughs.

Give it some time and people will quit caring about Mass effect Andromeda once the hype backlash dies down. They will probably forget that the game exists or put it in the same category as Deus Ex: Invisible War but no one bothers to make videos about how disappointing Deus Ex: Invisible War is anymore.

Yup, exactly. Now are a lot of people pissed off, because of... final game execution, hardcore hype turned to be... fraud. And regreting that pre-order.

It's like with No Man's Sky, when it launched. People kept bitchin' about it for days. But, after almost a year, most don't care, since game was significantly updated (Although it has long way to accomplish promised content)

At least, as big fan of Mass Effect, I hope in complete remake (silly me, right?).

[Jazzman]

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and I hate such types, the hours long play a game and as long search, until they find an error!

they get then an orgasm when they put these videos on the Internet.

Ah I found a mistake, but now fast wanking! 

Only strange is, that no one so much criticism and hate, for Skyrim applied!

Skyrim is more than grottoes bad, there are thousands of bug videos, but everyone just laughs.

Who knows, maybe it's the today zeitgeist to laugh about these things to get at least some distraction from the real misery one got stuck into. Not being able to actually play these games due to ridiculously pumped up graphic requirements that make hardware producers happy is just one reason.

 

Whatever, it looks as if the used FaceFX has caused a massive break in the animations, perhaps in an update of the frostbite engine short after the game has reached gold stage. A delay of the release might have failed b/c of EA's fiscal year - you've either finished the job or you're fired. Such a systematic FaceFX error is almost irreversible cos a massive update of several gigs would be required to fix the game, let alone the months needed to go through any animation and the financial loss caused by it. Doubt that a simple rollback to an earlier version would be easily possible. Methinks players got to live with it our stay out. Looking at the reality of the Day-One patch, Flynn ain't particularly trustworthy, I'd say. Bad news.

 

To talk about Skyrim and it's Norse mythology for dummies makes no sense anymore. That train has left Valhalla Central Station long ago.

[Jazzman]

 

Your point is just political sanctionism - Washington, kiddo-style. Or do you really believe that games are played to support the company behind? Hmmm. If so, why do we actually support a sanctioned Russia by buying Russian rockets in order to spy on Russia? Indeed, we do. You see, the grown-ups ain't too bright either when they try to justify their silly sanction agenda.

 

Once I've beaten the game and the thumb goes down then there will be no Andromeda sequel anymore for me. End of story. That's how it's done IRL and not perhaps preemptively and selectively as in monkey business.

 

You don't seem to quite understand the statement you're defending here - by that statement, you have no right to not buy a game before you've actually bought it. So if you end up not liking Andromeda to the point where you don't want to purchase the next game from Bioware you are preemptively judging the next game. You haven't played it, after all, so you can't judge it.

 

Besides, not 'we' and much less 'I' are buying rockets from russia. What each individual does is his or her business, so what you or some politicians do is beyond my control and responsibility. You're right that by playing a game you're not automatically supporting the company that made and/or published the game, but by buying the game you sure as hell do. This has nothing to do with your intention, it's just a consequence that naturally follows.

 

You don't understand the basic principle of trading, probably because you don't produce anything. It is exclusively based on mutual trust, not perhaps on a 2nd or 3rd chance given to the side that has a clear tendency to fail. The just imagined improvement of future quality in money (no more bad bucks) or product is irrelevant, simply because there are more than just one customer and one producer on the market. If you fail you are out, history, and that's that.

 

As I've said, you accept sanctioning on the one hand, just to accept its breaking on the other because the responsibility of a citizen for the policy in a democracy is just a myth anyway, huh? That's more than just hypocrisy at its best. Cling together - swing together, that's how it actually goes, face it. However, to try to force a company to submit to your will so that you finally get what you want, that's foolish as we all have experienced in the revised ending of the crippled for cut ME-3 ending - we just got additional crap.

 

Guess not knowing what you are talking about due to lack of personal experience in the matter but talking nonetheless is your trademark, huh? Well, I'm not your mother, so what.

[prinyo]

 

It's like with No Man's Sky, when it launched. People kept bitchin' about it for days. But, after almost a year, most don't care, since game was significantly updated (Although it has long way to accomplish promised content)

 

I get the idea that the drama will die down with time but... the NMS is an one-off thing. MEA is a part of a cult series. And it is a start of a new series. What this game does is it keeps opening new questions and doesn't answer any. Obviously the ambition for the story and the world of the Andromeda series is extremely big. The game keeps layering levels of mysteries:

 - who and why made the Andromeda Initiative possible (the "benefactor")

 - who and what are the Kett

 - who are the Remnant

 - who are the enemies they had

 

- what the fuck was going on in that cluster - having planets transformed to support life and been completely populated with artificially designed life forms. All life forms you encounter there, including Angara, are artificially created by the Remnant (Jardaan)

 

- additional questions coming from things you do there

 

In the trilogy you had one conflict - Reapers against the sentient organic races. Here you have layers of mysteries, plot lines and moral dilemmas waiting to be uncovered. 

 

My point is - the ME3 ending drama made Bioware run a galaxy away just to escape from it. But there is no escaping MEA - the next game better be 9.9/10 or the drama in several years when it is released will be way bigger than it is now. 

 

Or in other words - the ME fans are dealing with their DA2 moment now. It's not pretty, but it is not the end of the world. And despite it's many weaknesses the game does hold a promise of a "better tomorrow" - see all I listed above. But the drama is not going to disappear until MEA2 when it will maybe go away or maybe get way more serious - if the fans decide the series was completely destroyed.

[GrimReaper]

 

You don't understand the basic principle of trading, probably because you don't produce anything. It is exclusively based on mutual trust, not perhaps on a 2nd or 3rd chance given to the side that has a clear tendency to fail. The just imagined improvement of future quality in money (no more bad bucks) or product is irrelevant, simply because there are more than just one customer and one producer on the market. If you fail you are out, history, and that's that.

 

As I've said, you accept sanctioning on the one hand, just to accept its breaking on the other because the responsibility of a citizen for the policy in a democracy is just a myth anyway, huh? That's more than just hypocrisy at its best. Cling together - swing together, that's how it actually goes, face it. However, to try to force a company to submit to your will so that you finally get what you want, that's foolish as we all have experienced in the revised ending of the crippled for cut ME-3 ending - we just got additional crap.

 

Guess not knowing what you are talking about due to lack of personal experience in the matter but talking nonetheless is your trademark, huh? Well, I'm not your mother, so what.

 

 

I do think your patronizing demeanor is kinda cute, but you should really spend more time on reading and thinking first and after that's done come up with an eloquent answer. Otherwise all the typing goes down the drain.

 

Everyone is responsible for his/her own actions, there's no debating that. Yes, you can vote for party this or party that, but what they do with your vote is up to them. If they break their promises that's not on you, that's on them. The actions of one might affect many, but the responsibility doesn't shift because of that. If you decide to go on a killing spree, that's your choice and not the choice of the people you go and murder. And since it is your choice to do just that, you are the one that's responsible for doing that and not the people you've killed.

 

I do not expect Bioware to bow to my every whim. But I do have a decision to make whether to buy their products or not. It's not that I think my purchase or non-purchase will have a significant impact, no. But it is still my decision - do I personally want to support Bioware or not? It's the same as voting, really. One singer doesn't make a choir but you can't have a choir with no singers.

[nothindoin]

well, if you don't like it then you don't like it. whatever's clever. like i said; i'm not coming here to argue. and perhaps i would post on the other thread if it had more than 2 replies.

 

i enjoy the shit out of the game. i think the story is good. i think the gameplay is fun. and i've yet to see any bug that detracts from my experience. which, i find pretty remarkable personally in this day and age. but that's just me. i understand the point about not wanting to buy something and feel ripped off if you don't like it. but, hey, sadly, some things are like that. games are one. you can never be quite sure until you give it a spin yourself with an open mind.

 

there's only been a couple times the animations seemed out of whack to me. and even those weren't that big of deal. not that i exactly remember shepard, miranda, ashley being paragons of open emotion on their character models. many's the time i remember any of them standing behind me in a conversation passive as mannequins no matter what the scenario. therefore, to my mind, this installment is in keeping with tradition lol.

[prinyo]

A honest question to the "combat is better" people.

 

I'm trying to understand the reactions about the combat and I hope somebody can explain it to me. I honestly don't understand what does "the combat is better" mean in this case. 

 

Here is what I do understand. ME3 has 2 combat systems: SP - an ActionRPG appropriate one with tactical and team-work foundations, and an MP - a shooter-y bang-bang thing. When making MEA the devs take the shooter-y multiplayer system and make it better. So far so good. But then they decide they don't want to deal with two different combat systems and they take the multi player one and plug it directly into the single player campaign, throwing the team-oriented tactical system away into the trash bin. And people are ... happy. 

 

Now I can understand a comparison between the combat in the DA series for example. It has the same foundations. So when somebody argues that the combat is better or worse in DAI than in DAO or DA2 I can understand what they mean. 

 

But I can't understand it when it comes to MEA. So here is the question - when somebody says the combat in MEA is better (or "feels" better) they :

1. ... are talking about the MP and don't care about the campaign?

2. ... personally prefer shooters and are happy that yet another ActionRPG has been turned into a shooter?

3. ... have found a way to compare apples to oranges?

4. ... desperately need to find something to enjoy in a game they have been hyped about?

5 ... [ something I'm missing]

 

This is a real question. The positive reactions about the SP combat in MEA is what worries me most about this game because other publishers can see it as an encouragement to follow the same path. 

 

[D_ManXX2]

well, if you don't like it then you don't like it. whatever's clever. like i said; i'm not coming here to argue. and perhaps i would post on the other thread if it had more than 2 replies.

 

i enjoy the shit out of the game. i think the story is good. i think the gameplay is fun. and i've yet to see any bug that detracts from my experience. which, i find pretty remarkable personally in this day and age. but that's just me. i understand the point about not wanting to buy something and feel ripped off if you don't like it. but, hey, sadly, some things are like that. games are one. you can never be quite sure until you give it a spin yourself with an open mind.

 

there's only been a couple times the animations seemed out of whack to me. and even those weren't that big of deal. not that i exactly remember shepard, miranda, ashley being paragons of open emotion on their character models. many's the time i remember any of them standing behind me in a conversation passive as mannequins no matter what the scenario. therefore, to my mind, this installment is in keeping with tradition lol.

 

you do realise that posting that crap here there is a higher probability of flame war emeriges right ??

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/75170-mass-effect-andromeda-general-discussion/?do=findComment&comment=1856917 i told the moderators to remove your comment before you get this topic closed as well.

 

just because only 2 people posted in the other thread is no exuse to derail this one.

[zzz72w3r]

People who prefer ME combat vs. DA are all FPS players.  They think pausable tactical view is for old people or noob and real combat is about fast pace and multiple angles of approach.  I am guessing the bigger stage of ME:A (in open space) vs. ME (almost always in corridors) and the jump pack caters to their preference that the original trilogy lack. 

 

The counter argument from RPG players still stand though.  You can find all those qualities and most likely better in a real FPS so why not just go play those instead?  RPG combat should be more chess like of building your team, about strategic thinking of leveling and equipment to enhance the journey, rather than just fast twitch from one set to another. 

 

EDIT: PS. just to add that FPS is far, far bigger commercial market than RPG.  In ME Bioware blended RPG with FPS and it's definitely a main reason that ME sold much better than DA.  It's obvious that EA wants more FPS and less RPG.

[Jazzman]

I do think your patronizing demeanor is kinda cute, but you should really spend more time on reading and thinking first and after that's done come up with an eloquent answer. Otherwise all the typing goes down the drain.

 

Everyone is responsible for his/her own actions, there's no debating that. Yes, you can vote for party this or party that, but what they do with your vote is up to them. If they break their promises that's not on you, that's on them. The actions of one might affect many, but the responsibility doesn't shift because of that. If you decide to go on a killing spree, that's your choice and not the choice of the people you go and murder. And since it is your choice to do just that, you are the one that's responsible for doing that and not the people you've killed.

 

I do not expect Bioware to bow to my every whim. But I do have a decision to make whether to buy their products or not. It's not that I think my purchase or non-purchase will have a significant impact, no. But it is still my decision - do I personally want to support Bioware or not? It's the same as voting, really. One singer doesn't make a choir but you can't have a choir with no singers.

Thanks for your marvelous remarks. For my part however, I prefer folks /w at least some practical experience in the matter over mere faith-driven colleagues, simply b/c the latter have nothing in their pocket that'd impress me much. Moreover, I lack the extraordinary capability of the faithful to switch the expressed feelings directly under slightly changed conditions. So, I fear an inflexible alliance just to reach what? that wouldn't be exactly to my advantage. It should be clear in the meantime that I don't have sex with an ex, and that goes for video game publishers that have managed to piss me off as well. The guys in question already tried hard in the ME-3 ending. Let's hope that I can let them get away with Andromeda at the end of the day. For the time being I've just overcome the latent risk of radioactive ghoulification on Eos and I've still got a long way to go.

 

Have fun.

[Chekist]

A honest question to the "combat is better" people.

 

I'm trying to understand the reactions about the combat and I hope somebody can explain it to me. I honestly don't understand what does "the combat is better" mean in this case. 

 

Here is what I do understand. ME3 has 2 combat systems: SP - an ActionRPG appropriate one with tactical and team-work foundations, and an MP - a shooter-y bang-bang thing. When making MEA the devs take the shooter-y multiplayer system and make it better. So far so good. But then they decide they don't want to deal with two different combat systems and they take the multi player one and plug it directly into the single player campaign, throwing the team-oriented tactical system away into the trash bin. And people are ... happy. 

 

Now I can understand a comparison between the combat in the DA series for example. It has the same foundations. So when somebody argues that the combat is better or worse in DAI than in DAO or DA2 I can understand what they mean. 

 

But I can't understand it when it comes to MEA. So here is the question - when somebody says the combat in MEA is better (or "feels" better) they :

1. ... are talking about the MP and don't care about the campaign?

2. ... personally prefer shooters and are happy that yet another ActionRPG has been turned into a shooter?

3. ... have found a way to compare apples to oranges?

4. ... desperately need to find something to enjoy in a game they have been hyped about?

5 ... [ something I'm missing]

 

This is a real question. The positive reactions about the SP combat in MEA is what worries me most about this game because other publishers can see it as an encouragement to follow the same path. 

I replayed all ME games recently (before the launch of MEA).

 

"Better combat" means literally that, a better combat system than any previous ME games. Combat in ME never was tactical just because your squadmates had long cooldowns and very limited number of abilities and the enemies were quite bullet spongy. You often would find yourself sitting in the cover doing absolutely nothing for good 20-30 seconds, especially on higher difficulty settings (waiting for cooldowns/waiting for shields or health to regenerate). AI would often do the same, just sit in cover taking a pop shots at you.

 

MEA has bigger selection of moddable weapons than any previous game, it has dynamically destructible and penetratable cover (widow with 2.5m penetration mod just feels awesome), because of the jetpack you have greater mobility and close range/melee character is a viable option even on higher difficulty settings. And the whole profile system, while it makes me as rpg fan die a little inside, it does bring variety and you never feel unequipped for specific type of enemy game throws at you. And the most importantly, the style of combat truly varies depending on your abilities/class. You can play slow, utilizing cover like previous ME games or you can go for a faster more mobile approach that doesn't rely on cover at all.

 

The only thing that I think would improve the combat further is bringing back the ability to control your squadmates abilities. But I guess console controllers have limited number of buttons to bind everything...

[GrimReaper]

 

Thanks for your marvelous remarks. For my part however, I prefer folks /w practical experience in the matter over mere faith-driven colleagues, simply b/c the latter have nothing in their pocket that'd impress me much. Moreover, I lack the extraordinary capability of the faithful to switch the expressed feelings directly under changed conditions, that's the clear disadvantage of being the mother and not the child. So, I fear an inflexible alliance just to reach what? that wouldn't be exactly to my advantage. It should be clear in the meantime that I don't have sex with an ex, and that goes for video game publishers that have managed to piss me off as well. The guys in question already tried hard in the ME-3 ending. Let's hope that I can let them go away with Andromeda at the end of the day. For the time being I've just overcome the latent risk of radioactive ghoulification on Eos and I've still got a long way to go.

 

Have fun.

 

 

I don't know from which medieval village you are hailing from, but I actually do happen do know quite a bit about how selling works - at least in this day and age. Needless to say, production, trade and finally selling a product to the consumer are different beasts altogether. And I don't even want to start about the distribitution of digital goods, that's a nightmare on its own.

 

Now, the most fundamental principle of economics is supply and demand, not trust. The next very important step are rules and regulations which are usually enforced by your local government. There are regulations for deals between companies and regulations for the end-consumer. For example, you're usually not allowed to use false advertising in order to sell your product. Advertising itself, however, which is a way to artificially create demand where none existed before is good to go. I could go on about how nowadays nothing happens without a contract and how about a contract is the stellar opposite of trust, but I digress.

 

Oh, and you absolutely should cut down on the amount of times you reference yourself as a mother. The only prerequisite for that is to be able to get knocked up which in itself isn't anything to write home about, unless this is the only thing you can can up with as far as your redeeming qualities are concerned. But I'm sure you can do better.