Devious Devices

[PenBoozerX]

Does the gag-talk force-greet come from this mod? Can I disable it?

 

Meaning the force-greet by every NPC that makes you go "Mmmpgh!" in few variations and they'll say something like "You're wearing a gag, but maybe I can understand you why don't you try again" or something along those lines.

 

It messes with a lot of other force-greet interaction mods (especially timed ones) and I'd rather imagine the mumbling than go trough this menu every time I try talking to someone while gagged.

[vaultbait]

5 hours ago, kiesu said:

Does the gag-talk force-greet come from this mod? Can I disable it?

 

Meaning the force-greet by every NPC that makes you go "Mmmpgh!" in few variations and they'll say something like "You're wearing a gag, but maybe I can understand you why don't you try again" or something along those lines.

 

It messes with a lot of other force-greet interaction mods (especially timed ones) and I'd rather imagine the mumbling than go trough this menu every time I try talking to someone while gagged.

Yes, this is the mod doing it. I've seen a few other folks say they delete that from the ESP using FO4edit, though I haven't tried personally.

[PenBoozerX]

1 hour ago, vaultbait said:

Yes, this is the mod doing it. I've seen a few other folks say they delete that from the ESP using FO4edit, though I haven't tried personally.

Thanks!

 

I tried searching this thread what the correct thing to remove would be but didn't find anything. So I poked around the esm, and deleted all quests mentioning gag. The force-greets seem to have ended after a quick test. Hope I didn't break anything lol

[Celestialskaura17]

This might be a stupid question. but how do you get the devices?

[izzyknows]

1 hour ago, Celestialskaura17 said:

This might be a stupid question. but how do you get the devices?

You can craft them at the restraints workbench. Found under Raider>>Slavery

[Elsidia]

5 hours ago, Celestialskaura17 said:

This might be a stupid question. but how do you get the devices?

Or buy in Diamond city from Kimy.

Or get it equipped by supported mod Deviously Cursed Wasteland

Or get it equipped by third part mods (AAF surrender)

[vaultbait]

12 hours ago, Elsidia said:

Or buy in Diamond city from Kimy.

Presumably you meant Goodneighbor (she's either sitting to the left of the stage when you're facing it, or under the stairs through the door there). Also Kimy charges insane prices unless you're flush with caps. You can also buy keys from her to unlock restraints and chastity devices, at similarly inflated rates.

 

Another tempting option is ESP Explorer, but I gather from what others have said that using it with DD's ESP can wreck your save because it basically spawns a container with one (or more) of every device, and all of them have scripts attached, so... yeah that's not so good I guess. And of course you can still use the console's help command to look up IDs for the devices you want and additem to add them to your inventory.

 

Lots of mods here have DD integration which will force devices onto you, or start dialogue with NPCs who will help you out of them (or may just take advantage of you instead). Some also add keys to the inventories of hostiles who put the devices on you, which can be an easier source, some also steal all your DD keys before equipping new restraints on you.

 

Off the top of my head: Deviously Cursed Wasteland, AAF Violate, AAF Sexual Harassment, Boston Devious Helper... there are almost certainly others I haven't used (MCG maybe?).

[Nebuchadnezzer2]

8 hours ago, vaultbait said:

Also Kimy charges insane prices unless you're flush with caps. You can also buy keys from her to unlock restraints and chastity devices, at similarly inflated rates.

giggles in oxygen depravation from suffocating beneath giant pile of purified water because vanilla balance doesn't exist 

[vaultbait]

On 7/5/2020 at 6:59 AM, Nebuchadnezzer2 said:

giggles in oxygen depravation from suffocating beneath giant pile of purified water because vanilla balance doesn't exist 

A classic case of Bethesdic Hypoxia for sure.

[Elsidia]

With DCW you don't need money to get dd items)

[vaultbait]

14 hours ago, Elsidia said:

With DCW you don't need money to get dd items)

Same for AAF Violate, Sexual Harassment, and likely a number of other mods which force devices on you (just have to keep praying to Eris until chaos grants you the outfit pieces you desire). Also a tip, once you manage to unlock and unequip a piece you're wearing, you can often alter it at the armor workbench to a preferred color or style too.

[Elsidia]

52 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

Also a tip

Also a tip from me: if script decide randomly equip on you dresses from dd - you are lucky - you got free dress and event don't need to free for her: dresses reference is damaged and without repair script can't equip it on you: instead of it those dress is left into your inventory. Straitjacket dress not in this count, also hobble dress. Only non restraint dresses what lock on you but you are completely free.

[BlueBoxAssociation]

This may have come up previously but I don't know for sure...  only the default CBBE body slide bodies are available in Body Slide with Devious Devices.   Any of the custom ones that I have downloaded, including the one I am currently using, do not show up.  They do for all other outfits listed as CBBE, just not for DD.   Any ideas?

[BIGMANKILLER]

hi, i am a fan of you since skyrim, starting this in fallout 4 i loved it but i cant find the configuration menu, its compatible with MCM or its in another place? (i hope there is one)

[vaultbait]

4 hours ago, BlueBoxAssociation said:

This may have come up previously but I don't know for sure...  only the default CBBE body slide bodies are available in Body Slide with Devious Devices.   Any of the custom ones that I have downloaded, including the one I am currently using, do not show up.  They do for all other outfits listed as CBBE, just not for DD.   Any ideas?

I don't recall anyone having mentioned that, but I also don't have any custom body presets saved in BodySlide so can't easily check. I normally build against a standard zero-sliders preset with morphs enabled, and then use LooksMenu presets instead (so the outfit will conform automatically to them in-game). Though lately I've been using wdaigle's marvellous FG conversion, as I switched to using the ZeX/Fusion Girl body over a year ago now.

 

[vaultbait]

2 hours ago, BIGMANKILLER said:

hi, i am a fan of you since skyrim, starting this in fallout 4 i loved it but i cant find the configuration menu, its compatible with MCM or its in another place? (i hope there is one)

You're looking for this:

 

[BIGMANKILLER]

4 hours ago, vaultbait said:

You're looking for this:

 

Awesome,thank you great human being

 

[Olmech]

On 7/8/2020 at 6:06 PM, vaultbait said:

I don't recall anyone having mentioned that, but I also don't have any custom body presets saved in BodySlide so can't easily check. I normally build against a standard zero-sliders preset with morphs enabled, and then use LooksMenu presets instead (so the outfit will conform automatically to them in-game). Though lately I've been using wdaigle's marvellous FG conversion, as I switched to using the ZeX/Fusion Girl body over a year ago now.

 

Anyone know if wdaigle's conversion works with latest Fusion Girl body?

[vaultbait]

17 hours ago, Olmech said:

Anyone know if wdaigle's conversion works with latest Fusion Girl body?

See the most recent posts in its support thread, but the short answer is that any devices with no included body seem to be fine. Full outfits with an included body will need a newer 1.61 "FusionGirl" body loaded in Outfit Studio replacing the older "BaseFBody" but I haven't tried yet and there are open questions as to whether additional steps are required because of the HHS integration for at least some of them. I did a preliminary test with the restrictive corset/boots and noted that the feet clip through, but redoing body zaps may solve that I'm not sure.

[Olmech]

2 hours ago, vaultbait said:

See the most recent posts in its support thread, but the short answer is that any devices with no included body seem to be fine. Full outfits with an included body will need a newer 1.61 "FusionGirl" body loaded in Outfit Studio replacing the older "BaseFBody" but I haven't tried yet and there are open questions as to whether additional steps are required because of the HHS integration for at least some of them. I did a preliminary test with the restrictive corset/boots and noted that the feet clip through, but redoing body zaps may solve that I'm not sure.

Thank you much!

[AlyssaAwoo]

The scripts for this Mod stopped working for me. Once a device is equipped, as usual i can´t unequip or drop them but there is no menu to unlock etc. Not sure which causes this. I have the Gag morphs, Fusion Girl Conversion and a walk replacer installed. I doubt those break it. Can RealHandcuffs with its Patch break DD ? I doubt it. Im clueless

[vaultbait]

3 hours ago, AkiKay said:

The scripts for this Mod stopped working for me. Once a device is equipped, as usual i can´t unequip or drop them but there is no menu to unlock etc. Not sure which causes this. I have the Gag morphs, Fusion Girl Conversion and a walk replacer installed. I doubt those break it. Can RealHandcuffs with its Patch break DD ? I doubt it. Im clueless

I have all those things in my typical load and they haven't caused the behavior you describe. Long ago I ran into issues with some mods which included buggy scripts which would sometimes fail to terminate, and then block any other scripts (including those for DD) from running. I've also heard it's possible to explode the script count in your save by opening up DD in ESP Explorer since it basically spawns a container with multiples of every device all at once with attached scripts, and then they don't go away when it's closed; as a result I've avoided doing that but haven't actually observed it myself.

 

Have you tried starting a new game or from a clean, unmodded save?

[AlyssaAwoo]

15 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

I have all those things in my typical load and they haven't caused the behavior you describe. Long ago I ran into issues with some mods which included buggy scripts which would sometimes fail to terminate, and then block any other scripts (including those for DD) from running. I've also heard it's possible to explode the script count in your save by opening up DD in ESP Explorer since it basically spawns a container with multiples of every device all at once with attached scripts, and then they don't go away when it's closed; as a result I've avoided doing that but haven't actually observed it myself.

 

Have you tried starting a new game or from a clean, unmodded save?

I´ve tried a new game and also reinstalled the mod. Manually extracted the files over the files the mod manager installed to assure its all there aswell. Just doesn´t want to work. Can too many script mods or AAF animations break DD ? Maybe my game is just too challenged to handle DD scripts aswell. 

 

I attached a loadorder of my mods below:

Spoiler

 

[Elsidia]

7 hours ago, AkiKay said:

I attached a loadorder of my mods below:

It's hardly to say - to many mods there. If menu not appear when you equip restraint from inventory then some of mods breaks a DD scripts.

I check all by list but don't remember any what can stop dd script work by memory. But there is mods in Fallout 4 what breaks dd scripts.

 

[delete1618]

My companion was recently equipped with some devices during Violate, and they were automatically unequipped on Violate completion and her standard equipment put back on. However, she's still doing the hopping animation and holding her arms up like she's in a stock.

• I've verified in the console that nothing is actually equipped to her, as far as DD goes (at least it doesn't show anything. see below)
• I've tried equipping DD items and unequipping them (pretty tough to do for a companion), but this only fixes the problem until I load into a different cell.
• recycleactor revealed that there's an invisible item equipped to her. Tt along with "UNEQUIP ME BEFORE CLOSING" showed up in her inventory, but as I lost all her items when recycling, I reloaded to get them back. I thought I could just repeat this, but the invisible item won't show up again.
• I also tried disable and enable, as well as killing her first. Nothing.

Is there something I'm missing on how to get rid of that invisible item? I tried searching through the forum, but I just see people complaining about characters being stuck in the hop animation and no provided solutions.