HDT SMP for SSE?

[Slashztron]

13 hours ago, panchovix said:

Here is one for UUNP, but the FOMOD is sorta hard to understand (I translated it using machine translation from chinese lol), and you have to optimize the nifs after installing, besides that it's not much ; anyways you will need some files installed before (mostly SOS for SE, BodySlide, and the HDT framework/physics)
 

I can confirm it's working for me and for some other testers, even some (NSFW) pics that it works haha, if you have any questions or etc, just ask me 

Now if you're wondering why I haven't uploaded a fully SE optimized one, because if I do, and it happened to other 2 users already, the post will get deleted and you're banned, some policy things

i did test the package with the latest game update and latest SMP update and it's still working fine without modifying anything  

[Bad Luck Gacha]

6 minutes ago, Slashztron said:

i did test the package with the latest game update and latest SMP update and it's still work fine without modifying anything  

You mean the 2.7 itself? yeah it would work without issues by itself, I just translated it and deleted the non-permission files so it won't get deleted from LL 

The original Chinese post is dead now tho

[megat]

16 hours ago, Gromilla said:

I realized that I had to sleep at night I dug up all the files and the elephant did not notice! Shame on me
@Barraganwell done all said. ? I now checked and it all worked.

Worked example:

Skirt01_1.nif

Skirt01_0.nif

 

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Don`t look at head!!! ? 

 

 

I added object and removed the Data/ part from the front of the location so that it was the same as the files you posted but it didn't change anything Dx

[Lord Ariakas]

10 hours ago, Gromilla said:

So the same body is used in clothes as for the PC, rename the body for the PC as mentioned in the posts above, so that they do not coincide. That is, it’s necessary to create a package of files in which only the body of the PC is registered as the body does not match any other body in the game. I hope clearly described :).

The issue is that I am using CBBE racemenu plugin which lets you to change ingame morphs, if I rename the player body the racemenu plugin stops working. I thought if I rename the npc body then physics won't get applied to it so everything will be fine. Clearly I cannot win, either I loose the character morphs or my game will  drop to it's knees and die slowly...

[Gromilla]

8 hours ago, megat said:

I added object and removed the Data/ part from the front of the location so that it was the same as the files you posted but it didn't change anything Dx

Okey. You made me do everything myself   Here is the working version. HDT SKIRT smp SE.7z

and poof ? 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Metaton said:

The issue is that I am using CBBE racemenu plugin which lets you to change ingame morphs, if I rename the player body the racemenu plugin stops working. I thought if I rename the npc body then physics won't get applied to it so everything will be fine. Clearly I cannot win, either I loose the character morphs or my game will  drop to it's knees and die slowly...

"If the mountain does not go to Mohammed ..." (c)
So you need to rename the body that is used for the NPC   to turn off the influence of smp physics. And for the PC to use what is required.

 

[Gromilla]

I will repeat it again, but do not forget about the excellent lessons (something is already somewhat outdated, but for a start it is priceless):

 

 

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3800385-a-guide-to-hdt-smp-usersmodders/

 

[willibauer]

thx guys, i've got it sorted. Updated sos to latest version, fiddled a bit, de- and reinstalled some things, et voila - collisions. Don't know exactly what it was, though.

Thanks anyways ?

[Lord Ariakas]

6 hours ago, Gromilla said:

Okey. You made me do everything myself   Here is the working version. HDT SKIRT smp SE.7z

and poof ? 

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"If the mountain does not go to Mohammed ..." (c)
So you need to rename the body that is used for the NPC   to turn off the influence of smp physics. And for the PC to use what is required.

 

This is what I did, I renamed general body mesh to CBBE-NPC and using custom race for PC which I have left as CBBE. PC got HDT SMP physics (NPCs got the CBBE CBP applied to which is enabled as well, but that should not cause problems). but again, something butchers the FPS (could be armors or I have started to think it could be male bodies maybe?).

 

Edit: This interesting really, I ran some tests and disabled HDT alltogether. My FPS still drops down to 30 in Solitude at the castle (where I was testing) HDT hair (I am using Yun dao) takes away like 5-10 FPS and if HDT enabled I go down to 22-30 -without it is still 30-40. Maybe this is the price of using HDT SMP which I need to live with? To lose 10- 15 FPS?  

[full_inu]

1 hour ago, Metaton said:

This is what I did, I renamed general body mesh to CBBE-NPC and using custom race for PC which I have left as CBBE. PC got HDT SMP physics (NPCs got the CBBE CBP applied to which is enabled as well, but that should not cause problems). but again, something butchers the FPS (could be armors or I have started to think it could be male bodies maybe?).

 

Edit: This interesting really, I ran some tests and disabled HDT alltogether. My FPS still drops down to 30 in Solitude at the castle (where I was testing) HDT hair (I am using Yun dao) takes away like 5-10 FPS and if HDT enabled I go down to 22-30 -without it is still 30-40. Maybe this is the price of using HDT SMP which I need to live with? To lose 10- 15 FPS?  

Could you reply with your PC specs?

[Lord Ariakas]

4 minutes ago, Barragan said:

Could you reply with your PC specs?

MB: Asus Hero VI

CPU i7 4770K

GPU GTX 1080 ti

16 GB DDR3 ram

 

Win 7 64 bit

[rb888]

16 minutes ago, Metaton said:

MB: Asus Hero VI

CPU i7 4770K

GPU GTX 1080 ti

16 GB DDR3 ram

 

Win 7 64 bit

boost to 32 gigs lol

[Asrienda]

1 hour ago, Metaton said:

MB: Asus Hero VI

CPU i7 4770K

GPU GTX 1080 ti

16 GB DDR3 ram

 

Win 7 64 bit

Well, your CPU is like 5 years old, isn't SMP cpu heavy?

[Bad Luck Gacha]

I have a FX8320e and SMP is heavy AF to my CPU if I enable all collisions, but only using clothes one it has (almost) no fps drop

[Dagonek]

Anybody got a working link for 1.5.53 hdt framework? chinese thread seems to be dead for this particular mod.. i managed to get smp physics but framework is nowhere to be found... any help would be appreciated!

[Aldebaran]

1 hour ago, panchovix said:

I have a FX8320e and SMP is heavy AF to my CPU if I enable all collisions, but only using clothes one it has (almost) no fps drop

Have you unparked your cores? It can help with CPU-intensive processes. I use this utility because Windows doesn't always manage system resources well.

 

http://coderbag.com/Programming-C/CPU-core-parking-manager

[Vyxenne]

31 minutes ago, Aldebaran said:

Have you unparked your cores? It can help with CPU-intensive processes. I use this utility because Windows doesn't always manage system resources well.

 

http://coderbag.com/Programming-C/CPU-core-parking-manager

Have you actually used this utility? I got an immediate fatal error on launch (latest version - 2.1.3 - released September 2018) and foolishly clicked "Report Error," which, for all I know, sent my banking UID, PW and encryption algorithm key to somebody in Badactoristan.

 

[Aldebaran]

Yes, I've used it without trouble. Used it earlier today to check status after making some BIOS changes.

 

Might check your .NET version just to be sure. It requires v.4.5.

[Asrienda]

52 minutes ago, Aldebaran said:

Have you unparked your cores? It can help with CPU-intensive processes. I use this utility because Windows doesn't always manage system resources well.

 

http://coderbag.com/Programming-C/CPU-core-parking-manager

What is unpacking cores?

[Vyxenne]

On 10/26/2018 at 10:49 PM, megat said:

I saw a video of someone using it in oldrim? Is that something special? I'm just now getting into HDT conversion and actually learning how shit works

It's not particularly special in Oldrim, but it would be an absolute celebration-worthy breakthrough for HDT-SMP-SE. All I have been able to find that works in SSE are capes, cloaks and other unfeminine shoulder-hangings. I would kill maim for some working flouncy skirts, minidresses, gowns that don't let the legs clip straight through them when I walk, etc.

 

NOTE: Gromilla and other have nicely posted collision bodies, but they are no help as the default body in my game because the default body is only used when I am mostly nude- at which point there's no gown to collide with. Also, none of my skirts/legs even have reference bodies, and I haven't found any easy way to tell Bodyslide to batch-build all of my outfits to change the reference body in my hundreds of torso/chest-slot items, none of which have cloth physics anyway. So I can use that body for any cloth-physics outfits I find but since I have found zero so far the body doesn't help.

[Vyxenne]

5 minutes ago, Asrienda said:

What is unpacking cores?

un-PARKING, not unpacking. Windows manages system resources such that it shuts down ("parks") half (or more) of your processor cores for no apparent reason other than to make Greenpeace members feel virtuous about forcing you to save 0.1 mah for a few minutes. At the same time, Windows provides no easy way for users to intervene in the process, because Microsoft doesn't believe users should have any control whatsoever over their machines- just ask any Windows 10 user.

[Aldebaran]

11 minutes ago, Asrienda said:

What is unpacking cores?

UnPARKing. It's a form of Windows resource management for multi-core/multi-thread CPU's (unless you're using a doorstop of a PC, you have one). Sometimes those parked cores don't get unparked for use when you're doing CPU-heavy things like playing Skyrim or Fallout. If your system is low-end to mid-level, those inactive cores could mean lower framerate, microstuttering, and such like. People with high-end rigs may only notice a very tiny improvement (I'll take all the fps I can get!).

 

If you're curious, the linked page explains it all in gory detail.  

 

ETA: What @Vyxenne said. ? Greenpeace members aside, if you're running a company that uses tens of thousands of computers daily, those tiny savings on power add up. I can see the point of it, I'd just rather not have it dragging on my framerate when I'm mowing down draugr.

[megat]

11 hours ago, Gromilla said:

Okey. You made me do everything myself   Here is the working version. HDT SKIRT smp SE.7z

and poof ? 

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"If the mountain does not go to Mohammed ..." (c)
So you need to rename the body that is used for the NPC   to turn off the influence of smp physics. And for the PC to use what is required.

 

Thanks! but what else did you do besides what I said I did? I want to understand for future use since I don't want to have to be a bother...

[Bad Luck Gacha]

How this program works? For example, meanwhile you put the % up your cores will be more used in heavy tasks? Something like that?

[Vyxenne]

25 minutes ago, Aldebaran said:

Yes, I've used it without trouble. Used it earlier today to check status after making some BIOS changes.

 

Might check your .NET version just to be sure. It requires v.4.5.

Currently running dot-Net 4.7.2. Thanks.

[Aldebaran]

2 minutes ago, panchovix said:

How this program works? For example, meanwhile you put the % up your cores will be more used in heavy tasks? Something like that?

I pushed that slider all the way to 100%. Your system will still manage them as needed, but you won't end up gaming on half your available cores.