Yiffy Age of Skyrim

[ShadowKitty42]

I was just scrolling through hair on creation kit and hairkhajiitmale04 instantly crashed. I was on Ulfric, but I don't know if that matters.

 

Edit: I just changed Ulfric's hair in the Creation kit and it complained about several missing files:

 

Failed to load sub-surface mask actors\character\00LykaiosRaceTextures\Lykaios Male Textures\headmaleLykaios_SK.dds : using default black texture

(This file is in the folder, but the name is 'LykaiosMaleHead_SK.dds')

 

Could not find tint mask 'actors\character\# Lykaios Race Textures\Lykaios Tintmasks\Lykaios_PaintEars.dds' texture file

(I don't know why this is even here. The file path is what was used on V4.2)

 

Failed to load sub-surface mask actors\character\tiger\TigerFemaleHeadColor.dds : using default black texture

(This file exists, but it looks like it was named 'TigerFemaleHead.dds' instead)

 

Also a lot of errors relating to 'actors\character\foxtextures\' folder. That was in 5.03 download but isn't in 5.04.

[Bad Dog]

Thanks for hunting, @howlwind & @shadowkitty. I've been suspicious of HairKhajiitMale04  but I still don't know why it would be a problem. I'll look.

 

Also looking at those other issues.

 

Once I've cleared them I'll upload a new version.

 

[Bad Dog]

btw @shadowkitty42, love that you're jumping in with the sse conversion (I want it for my next playthrough), but I think your files are a bit old. Let me get the next rev up and you'll have something better to work with.

 

Found the hairkhajiitmale04 problem.

[Bad Dog]

Okay, freaks and furballs. New version (5.5) going up now. (Same site, link in the OP.) I've numbered the downloads so you know what order to do them in.

 

Checked out Ulfric and the manes are fine in this version, I think. That khajiit hair is fixed. Female lykaios match their tails. The base color is now lighter so you can get white female wolves.

 

XPMSE is no longer a hard requirement. Non-HDT tails have had all the special bones removed so they work just like vanilla tails. (That's why they were disconnecting from the bodies.) HDT tails are in their own download.

 

The digitigrade addon now overwrites the vanilla beast skeletons so if you want to run XPMSE (or any other skeleton) you MUST load it before the digitigrade addon. Upside, the Imperious patch works with either digi or planti variants.

 

Sundry other fixes I've forgotten by now. Load it up and enjoy.

[Deadly Kitten]

Finally got a setup that's mostly stable. Though since i'm taking a tangent to play through Slaverun Reloaded, it will be a while before I attempt to incorporate YA 5.5 into my save. I'm still on 4.x. I look forward to seeing what changes you cooked up once I get a chance.

[ShadowKitty42]

Well, I'm downloading 5.05 now. In case anybody's wondering, I haven't tried HDT tails on SE yet. My focus has been on getting the main parts of the mod (Base, Digi, and SOS) to be functional first. Then I was going to play with HDT and see if I can get that working.

[Blaze69]

1 hour ago, ShadowKitty42 said:

I haven't tried HDT tails on SE yet.

Don't even bother. The physics data is built for HDT PE, so it would have to be rewritten for SMP basically from scratch.

[ShadowKitty42]

On 1/19/2019 at 3:42 PM, ShadowKitty42 said:

I was just scrolling through hair on creation kit and hairkhajiitmale04 instantly crashed. I was on Ulfric, but I don't know if that matters.

 

Edit: I just changed Ulfric's hair in the Creation kit and it complained about several missing files:

 

Failed to load sub-surface mask actors\character\00LykaiosRaceTextures\Lykaios Male Textures\headmaleLykaios_SK.dds : using default black texture

(This file is in the folder, but the name is 'LykaiosMaleHead_SK.dds')

 

Could not find tint mask 'actors\character\# Lykaios Race Textures\Lykaios Tintmasks\Lykaios_PaintEars.dds' texture file

(I don't know why this is even here. The file path is what was used on V4.2)

 

Failed to load sub-surface mask actors\character\tiger\TigerFemaleHeadColor.dds : using default black texture

(This file exists, but it looks like it was named 'TigerFemaleHead.dds' instead)

 

Also a lot of errors relating to 'actors\character\foxtextures\' folder. That was in 5.03 download but isn't in 5.04.

@Bad DogI just confirmed that I have only the 5.05 files loaded, and I still get all these errors ^^ whenever I save in Creation Kit (for generating facegen).

 

Ulfric's face is still messed up also.

Along with the above errors, I also get:

Morph EyesMoveDown has 50 vertices but the geometry has 25

Morph EyesMoveOut has 50 vertices but the geometry has 25

Morph EyesForward has 50 vertices but the geometry has 25

Morph EyesMoveUp has 50 vertices but the geometry has 25

 

Maybe those have something to do with it?

 

Here's a video of what happens to him in-game

 

Edit: An extra note here. I did test the Lion Mane on females in the creation kit, and that's not buggy at all. Maybe compare the two?

[Deadly Kitten]

1 hour ago, ShadowKitty42 said:

@Bad DogI just confirmed that I have only the 5.05 files loaded, and I still get all these errors ^^ whenever I save in Creation Kit (for generating facegen).

 

Ulfric's face is still messed up also.

Along with the above errors, I also get:

Morph EyesMoveDown has 50 vertices but the geometry has 25

Morph EyesMoveOut has 50 vertices but the geometry has 25

Morph EyesForward has 50 vertices but the geometry has 25

Morph EyesMoveUp has 50 vertices but the geometry has 25

 

Maybe those have something to do with it?

 

Here's a video of what happens to him in-game

 

Edit: An extra note here. I did test the Lion Mane on females in the creation kit, and that's not buggy at all. Maybe compare the two?

Wait, Dark Souls UI? Please tell me what you're using to get that. I can't say I"ll use it, but science needs to know.

 

[whitey1105]

Hi.

 

I am impressed with the work you've done with YA 5.0! I've been waiting for it for a while now. I do however have one question...

 

Is it possible to remove hair and facial hair completely from furries? I prefer them hairless and only fur. This is the only thing bothering me for now. If someone could instruct me on how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. A hairless patch would also be amazing if you aren't already busy or don't mind, but I understand if you don't want to put time and effort into it.

 

 

[Blaze69]

5 hours ago, Leviathan1110 said:

Is it possible to remove hair and facial hair completely from furries? I prefer them hairless and only fur. This is the only thing bothering me for now. If someone could instruct me on how to do this, I would greatly appreciate it. A hairless patch would also be amazing if you aren't already busy or don't mind, but I understand if you don't want to put time and effort into it.

Removing the actual hair and beard meshes would require re-exporting FaceGen data for all of the game's NPCs, which as stated by Bad Dog and ShadowKitty, takes ages in the CK. So I don't think it will happen from our end anytime soon.

 

There may be another way around it, though. If we were to replace all of the hair and beard textures with empty/transparent ones, the hair should end up invisible ingame and that should give you the effect you are after without the need to mess around with FaceGen. That being said, it may not look good because alpha properties (transparencies) in Skyrim are a bit finnicky sometimes and depending on how the hairs are set up they may not become 100% invisible; and also vanilla Khajiit hairs may not have alpha properties at all so they cannot be made invisible. But at least there's something to look into.

 

Still, that would be up to Bad Dog; I won't be doing any Skyrim modding in the near future (currently taking a break). May look into it once I'm back if BD hasn't done it by then, though.

[Blaze69]

@Bad Dog, got some bug reports for you.

• Females of all races except for Lykaios will have the wrong head textures and a very noticeable neck seam when selecting them for the first time. Using the "Complexion" slider to change their face textures fixes it for some of them, but not all. I guess this is because the textures assigned in the Head Part record data is wrong and different from the ones in the Race data itself (which are the right ones)? But I'll have to look into it.
• Using the Complexion slider on female Wood Elves gives a "missing texture" error and makes the head all blue/purple-ish (y'know, the placeholder shader that shows up when a texture is missing).
• Female Redguards, Imperials and Bretons have a very blatant neck seam and using the Complexion slider doesn't fix it either.
• Some of the female Lykaios presets use some tints/warpaints that are not available during chargen (I guess because they aren't listed in their tint data?), so if you use one of those presets, you end up stuck with a bunch of tints and warpaints that cannot be edited or removed.
• The latest YA download includes some Hoodies scripts, but the YA schlongs package also includes older (and smaller) versions of the same scripts according to their file attributes. Which ones should be kept, the most recent ones from the main archive or the older (and larger) ones from the Schlongs download?

[Bad Dog]

Goddammit, I spent ages trying to separate the schlong stuff from the vanilla stuff. Are you sure there are still scripts in the base mod? (Edit: Shit, yes and that damn pimpingbrawl script that I deleted once already. I have no idea where that came from.

 

Edit: Oh, keep the ones in the schlongs file.

 

On the neck seam, could you look closely at it and tell me if it's a seam between head and body (straight line) or if the neck is feathered into the body but it's abrupt? The first would likely be your ENB; the second is me trying to get a smooth transition and apparently failing.

 

Also I found the problem with Ulfric's mane so I'll be working on that.

[Blaze69]

1 hour ago, Bad Dog said:

On the neck seam, could you look closely at it and tell me if it's a seam between head and body (straight line) or if the neck is feathered into the body but it's abrupt? The first would likely be your ENB; the second is me trying to get a smooth transition and apparently failing.

I've got some pics for you:

 

Female Altmer, when you select them:

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Female Altmer, after you move the "Complexion" slider (and thus force the game to load the texture set in the Race data even if it's not the same as in the Head Part data for the head)

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Male Altmer (Complexion slider has no effect).

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Female Imperial (Complexion slider has no effect)

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Female Redguard (Complexion slider has no effect)

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Female Orc, when selecting them

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Female Orc, after using the Complexion slider

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As you can see, there's a very blatant seam on most of them, though some can be fixed by using the "Complexion" slider.

 

Still, now that you mention ENB, if I disable mine it's true the seams are barely visible if anything at all, so I think there's something that makes the ENB render that huge mismatch even though it's not really present with vanilla shaders.

 

My bet is on the subsurface maps (the _sk textures). They don't really have any effect with vanilla shaders, and the most they can do is cause some ugly bronze shine that has even prompted people to simply replace the sk textures with black 4x4 placeholders to disable them altogether (like for example Ugly Bronze Shine Remover), with no noticeable quality loss on visuals (except for the removal of the bronze shine bug, obviously, but that's a good thing).

 

But ENB does use them for the Subsurface Scattering shader, and they have a noticeable impact on skin textures. And since I'm using Kwanon ENB, the effect is even greater, because it was created by the author of Fair Skin and specifically built for Fair Skin's detailed SK maps.

 

You seem to be using the diffuse maps as sk textures as well, which is probably what causes the seams. Since sk maps have no effect on vanilla shaders but can screw up ENB ones pretty bad, I'd say you should change the texture paths so they all point to a single seamless SK set. Looking at the files, there's a bunch of SK textures in the base "textures\actors\character" folder that could do the trick already (they are called femalebodysk, malebodysk, malefeetsk and makehandssk). You just need to make a matching and seamless texture for the head and edit the texture sets so they point to their corresponding sk map instead of the diffuse.

 

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On a separate note, something is wrong with the female Dunmer textures. Seems like the right ear is using the wrong UV; either that or the textures are wrong. Did you use the male normal map for the female heads by mistake or something like that?

 

Pic:

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[Bad Dog]

I have switched to using the diffuse as the sk texture nearly everywhere. I'm not sure why doing that with both head and body would cause a seam at the join with ENB. I just walked through all the complexions and made them all match and will see what I see. I'd neglected the complexions before. If I have to replace them with different SK textures I'm going to have major problems. (Should noses have a special patch in the SK? Since all the noses are different shapes, do I have to do a different SK for every race? What about inner ears?)

[Blaze69]

1 minute ago, Bad Dog said:

I have switched to using the diffuse as the sk texture nearly everywhere. I'm not sure why doing that with both head and body would cause a seam at the join with ENB. I just walked through all the complexions and made them all match and will see what I see. I'd neglected the complexions before. If I have to replace them with different SK textures I'm going to have major problems. (Should noses have a special patch in the SK? Since all the noses are different shapes, do I have to do a different SK for every race? What about inner ears?)

You could simply use a very small (like 4x4 or 8x8) all black texture like the subsurface disablers and point all _sk entries in the texture sets to that path. It's what I did for males in the shark race, and while it does cause the Subsurface Scattering shader from ENB to lose some detail (because the texture is all black, duh), at least it doesn't cause any seams like the current setup does.

 

Otherwise, you can keep the current sk textures you have (which seem to be all white except for the bits not covered by fur like genitals or inside of the ears, which are red). The issue with the different heads could be solved by having the head sk be all white instead of having the ear and nose detail; that way the sk detail for the bodies remains there but there shouldn't be any mismatch between body and head, and you can use the same head sk texture for all head texture sets.

[Blaze69]

47 minutes ago, Bad Dog said:

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I just replaced the vanilla SK textures with the white-and-red SK ones from the "textures\actors\character" folder and then edited all YA texture sets to point to them, and all seams seem to be gone. Some of the transitions are still not 100% seamless, but the mismatches are barely noticeable even with ENB and are not nearly as blatant as they were before.

 

So I'd say pointing all SK texture paths to your white-and-red SK files would work.

[Bad Dog]

Okay, 5.6 is up. This:

• Fixes the tris so Ulfric will work on SE. @ShadowKitty42, I'm putting up an SE version that has the fix but that I haven't facegenned yet.
• Fixes the texture problems @Blaze69 reported. Blaze, I didn't use the texture you suggest because I was doing it in parallel... I made sure all the texture sets were consistent and then loaded up an ENB to check. If this doesn't get rid of the seam I'll switch the SK paths. Which ENB are you using?

Meanwhile I have yet to get a stable game on this new machine. Still beating on it.

[ShadowKitty42]

8 minutes ago, Bad Dog said:

Okay, 5.6 is up. This:

• Fixes the tris so Ulfric will work on SE. @ShadowKitty42, I'm putting up an SE version that has the fix but that I haven't facegenned yet.
• Fixes the texture problems @Blaze69 reported. Blaze, I didn't use the texture you suggest because I was doing it in parallel... I made sure all the texture sets were consistent and then loaded up an ENB to check. If this doesn't get rid of the seam I'll switch the SK paths. Which ENB are you using?

Meanwhile I have yet to get a stable game on this new machine. Still beating on it.

By SE version, do you mean you've already converted all of the meshes?

[Blaze69]

32 minutes ago, Bad Dog said:

Blaze, I didn't use the texture you suggest because I was doing it in parallel... I made sure all the texture sets were consistent and then loaded up an ENB to check. If this doesn't get rid of the seam I'll switch the SK paths. Which ENB are you using?

I use Kwanon ENB, made by HHaley (author of Fair Skin, among other stuff).

 

FS is one of the few (if not the only) skin texture replacer that includes proper SK maps, and I'm pretty sure Kwanon is specially tailored to work with the FS textures. Maybe that's why it's more sensitive to mismatches in the SK maps?

[Bad Dog]

@ShadowKitty42 Yes, loading that version now as 01_Yiffy_Age_SE.B05.06. It has all the meshes converted and textures checked, but no facegen. Ulfric looks fine in CK BUTBUTBUT I get a crash flipping through the races in startup using LAL. So there's something still not right there. (And I don't think it's the old facegen because presets shouldn't use them. But maybe it does somehow.)

 

Also! Kaidan, Lucien, Clothing and Clutter Fixes and Cutting Room Floor all have patches. Kaidan has his scars and I've skimpified his armor for the next version of Bad Dog Skimpy Clothes. (Which might be a problem in a non-furry skyrim. Better check before I post that.)

[Taven]

1 hour ago, Bad Dog said:

@ShadowKitty42 Yes, loading that version now as 01_Yiffy_Age_SE.B05.06. It has all the meshes converted and textures checked, but no facegen. Ulfric looks fine in CK BUTBUTBUT I get a crash flipping through the races in startup using LAL. So there's something still not right there. (And I don't think it's the old facegen because presets shouldn't use them. But maybe it does somehow.)

 

Also! Kaidan, Lucien, Clothing and Clutter Fixes and Cutting Room Floor all have patches. Kaidan has his scars and I've skimpified his armor for the next version of Bad Dog Skimpy Clothes. (Which might be a problem in a non-furry skyrim. Better check before I post that.)

Ah, you've made a patch for Kaidan? Was it for the most current(somewhat reworked) version of him?

[ShadowKitty42]

2 hours ago, Bad Dog said:

@ShadowKitty42 Yes, loading that version now as 01_Yiffy_Age_SE.B05.06. It has all the meshes converted and textures checked, but no facegen. Ulfric looks fine in CK BUTBUTBUT I get a crash flipping through the races in startup using LAL. So there's something still not right there. (And I don't think it's the old facegen because presets shouldn't use them. But maybe it does somehow.)

 

Also! Kaidan, Lucien, Clothing and Clutter Fixes and Cutting Room Floor all have patches. Kaidan has his scars and I've skimpified his armor for the next version of Bad Dog Skimpy Clothes. (Which might be a problem in a non-furry skyrim. Better check before I post that.)

I just checked through all the textures. I found 1 single file that's still not an SE compatible format. it's "\textures\actors\character\KhajiitFemale\femalebody_s.dds"

 

And from my experience testing on V4.2 and V5+, i have never had a facegen related crash. If the facegen is invalid for some reason, you simply get a grey face instead.

[Deadly Kitten]

So Relationship Dialog overhaul adds NPCs, and the one that I've been using as a follower has the grey face bug in YA 5, but didn't in YA 4. Odd, but w/e. Google and this thread suggest that it's a facegen problem, so I used https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=Dark_Face_Bug as a guide on fixing it myself. Is there a way to view progress on the facegen process?

EDIT: Guess that didn't do anything. So, what am I doing wrong? How can I fix the grey face bug for this RDO npc?

[Bad Dog]

@kingcupworld if you're up for minor modding and have the CK and TES5Edit, you can do it yourself. The "tools" folder has a T5E script that will furrify your NPCs. Or if there's only one just go into CK and edit it by hand. Then facegen, either way. And why the hell does RDO introduce NPCs?

 

Ya, Kaidan is the v2 version.

 

@Blaze69 you're infecting me. I've now tried a few SK maps and I do think there's an argument for using one. There's an oil-slick thing on the white females that can be made to go away with the sk map you found. But heads hands and feet will have to match.

 

No one interested in interesting/uninteresting NPCs these days?