WickedWhims

[Ortikan]

3 hours ago, startermule said:

Everybody is hating on Turbo but I think he made a smart decision in the long run. If the Sims HS pack does pivot teens as being underage, any mod that allows users to get them to have explicit sex can be considered child pornography in many countries.  I know it's a gray area with lots of room for interpretation, but at this current socio-political climate, do you really expect politicians and the media to be understanding? 

I can already see the headlines from Kotaku right now: MOD MAKES CHILD PORN USING SIMS 4. Fox, NBC, and other TV shows would probably give it air time followed by some politician tweeting about WickedWhims being a symbol of modern-day degeneracy and promising a thorough investigation. And no sexual fantasy is worth it having your ass doxxed and dragged into court explaining why your mod technically doesn't allow players to simulate sex with minors. And anybody who lived through the GTA: San Andreas "Hot Coffee" mod would know EA/Maxis would also get their asses fried and potentially lead to even stricter policies on mods.

But the funniest thing is, despite all of that, people will still make mods that would unlock WW's previous features. And Turbo knows this, which is probably one of the reasons this decision wasn't that hard to make. He just doesn't want to be part of any potential clusterfuck that might happen.

 

1. No one is hating on TurboDriver, they are just hating on the decision that was forced on them, so get that straight.

2. "If" the sims team, "if". You have no clue that the teen sims are underage which means the rest of your highlighted text is largely irrelevant since none of it is based in fact, just what you think based on an assumption. You are allowed to think what you want, but don't force your crap on anyone else here.

3. A grey area allows for all sorts of things to happen irrespective of what politicians and the media want to state on the matter, but what any of that has to do with someone forcing their own moral crusade on everyone else you haven't answered.

4. The rest of what you wrote is a fantasy of yours, but you try assert it like it's the truth.

5. that "clusterfuck" is of TurboDrivers own making, since the mod maker decided this moral crusade is something they should force on everyone else. that's their clusterfuck, not ours.

 

Edited July 31, 2022 by Ortikan
removing gender biased wording since i don't know TurboDriver

[MrGrey]

Post puberty is not the same as 18 which is the age of consent or past the age of consent in most states of the US. But, lets pretend it does. I guess that's why NWP "dolls" are not real slaves and still have free will to give consent, they're just programmed to like their "owner". Otherwise it gets kinda rape-ish.

Seriously, you know that EA must have intended for the mods to work otherwise they wouldn't have added the ability to assign a teen's gender preferences, sexual inquisitive, and seeks woohoo by gender. Then something happened and EA gets all up in arms about it.

 

Edited July 31, 2022 by MrGrey

[Gambit]

3 hours ago, startermule said:

 And anybody who lived through the GTA: San Andreas "Hot Coffee" mod would know EA/Maxis would also get their asses fried and potentially lead to even stricter policies on mods.

 

It's a quite different story. Hot Coffee Mod re-enable an in game feature who was disabled before intial release. The mod was just using unused game assets. It's why media burned Rockstar ass.

 

EA Sims4 has 0 graphic sexual features. Mods should create all : nude bodies, interactions and animations.

[scrubster]

4 hours ago, Halleaon said:

I was having this problem yesterday, someone stated nisa's wicked perversions was causing it but i didn't have that installed at the time so someone else on here suggested backing up my tray folder, saves folder, User Setting File, Config file and Options file, Mods Folder and screenshot folder then deleting my sims 4 folder under documents>electronic arts> Sims 4, relaunching the game  so it repopulates them and then moving those backed up folders back to where they were and it fixed it for me.  So i basically just moved those folders/files to my desktop, deleted my sims 4 folder in documents, launched the game, then moved those folders back. I haven't had the problem since. so perhaps try it and see if it fixes for you? it's basically forcing the game to replace the base folders/files without having to redownload the game or lose any of your stuff in case something is corrupt.

i think this is working, thanks

[Rubyum]

Reading TurboDrivers reasoning... yeah, I can see where they're coming from.

[Lutschpumpe86]

After updating the game, Wickedwhims and Wicked Perversions today literally all doors are gone so it is not possible to enter houses or rooms without removing the wall. I can not even build new doors into the wall. Has anyone the same issue?

[sushi]

So, I tried the workaround last night,  the IU.  I installed it and set everything as suggested.  There is an option to add it to "All Teens," so you don't have to spend all day picking and choosing if you don't want to.  So far so good.  I haven't tried using it in the school, or really anywhere yet, but I do see that once activated, the menus and animations are available.  So if you haven't tried the Inappropriate Unlock yet, this is your sign to do so.    

 

As far as age goes with these teens, they're all going to prom.  Not junior prom, prom.  So I can assume they're 17-18, or older if left back.  Even if they can all pass for early 20's.

 

I really don't like that we are mentioning that in some countries the legal age is 14.  That's squicky af.  I treat this game as a game, but if I saw people in real life talking about real teenagers like this, I would want to fight them.  LOL.  I also acknowledge that even though I didn't have sex until I was 22, I was dating and crushing on adults when I was a teenager.  But I would never date a teen and if I saw a teen dating an adult, I would be very concerned for them in real life.  I fully acknowledge that I was a risk taker as a teen and things could have gone really, really bad for me.  LOL.

 

As for this whole talk comparing this mod to CP, I don't think that would be the proper comparison.  If we ignore the fact that the Supreme Court struck it down, and think about this hypothetically, this mod would be more in the same category as PirateBay or uTorrent.  WickedWhims didn't make the content, they just unlocked access to create the content.  If anyone ever wanted to come down hard on anybody, they would have to come down on whoever is posting teen sim videos to the Hub and the Hub for hosting it.  In which case, they would also have to take down any sort of schoolgirl hentai also.  

[sushi]

6 minutes ago, Lutschpumpe86 said:

After updating the game, Wickedwhims and Wicked Perversions today literally all doors are gone so it is not possible to enter houses or rooms without removing the wall. I can not even build new doors into the wall. Has anyone the same issue?

I have not had this issue at all.  At one point in the game, I did use the Social Bunny app, and it got stuck.  Greyed out my whole screen.  I closed the app, played again, and everything has been fine since.  I think this pack is just being buggy af.  This pack is hitting everyone with different symptoms like a coronavirus.  LOL.

[sushi]

1 hour ago, MrGrey said:

I guess that's why NWP "dolls" are not real slaves and still have free will to give consent, they're just programmed to like their "owner". Otherwise it gets kinda rape-ish.

 

 

Let's be real here.  If this was rl, this would still be rape because they've been brainwashed to not be able to give proper consent.  I think at a certain point it even states they love their owner because they're afraid to go back to that farm, or something like that.  That's Stockholm Syndrome.  If this were real life, that farm that they go to would be raided for sex trafficking and whatever else cults get charged with.  We would all agree that farm is run by awful people, and the people who buy these dolls are awful people.

 

But we are playing a game where everybody are pixels and it's all just fiction.

Edited July 31, 2022 by sushi

[procian]

14 minutes ago, Lutschpumpe86 said:

After updating the game, Wickedwhims and Wicked Perversions today literally all doors are gone so it is not possible to enter houses or rooms without removing the wall. I can not even build new doors into the wall. Has anyone the same issue?

You use basemental drugs? update if yes....always old bd versions doing this.

 

[jyotai]

7 hours ago, CRAZYARTZ said:

i lowkey feel like the sims paid him to take it down..

 

Probably has more to do with Patreon.

 

What's the 'adult content policy' of Patreon's payment processor? Remember how OnlyFans, Tumblr, and now Flickr all banned adult content - that was due to the policies of credit card processors.

 

Wicked Whims is on Patreon - which might actually be a violation of the new EA Mod policy, unlike adult content they actually call out paid mods, in unclear terms that make it uncertain how long you can have an 'early access' if at all now.

 

But for adult content, they say nothing. They just state obscene. You can ask Larry Flint about the legal definition of Obscene. He took that one to the Supreme Court and won.

 

 

Edited July 31, 2022 by jyotai

[jyotai]

I would really like to see the official source of the EA statement that teens are 18. If they were, then University should have been for teens, not young adults. So the statement has been in conflict with the game for a very long time.

 

 

[ProjectXzone]

Rip to my teen sim who was clapping Principal Mei's cheeks everyday ??

[Bradbrad7]

Kind of funny that beastiality, and other "not publicly normal" things in this mod is allowed but teen sex (that looks like adults and probably more than 17)? That's where we should draw the line

Edited July 31, 2022 by Bradbrad7

[sonem]

Hace 5 horas, simsupremo dijo:

 

jajaj que bueno ver españoles acá! Te ocurrió el defecto de las habilidades y competencias de los hombres lobo??

Que va chulo

[IronOni]

The mod author went to all the trouble of removing teen sex but didn't give us purity\abstinence rings?
Seriously, a prudish game sex mod is not something I need in my life.

 

The inappropriate unlocker mod seems to work for me if you also manually add the new post-puberty trait. It is very annoying to have to add that trait for every new teen. The mod should auto-add it but I suspect that mod author is also the WW author, so here we are.
 

[JKash]

4 hours ago, smashl66 said:

The werewolf ability perks being reset is not due to WW, it's due to ea's patch from what I read.

 

Where did they mentioned that?

[Kymberlyxxx]

I guess USA determines the rest of the world to the age of consent in a game?

its' a few years below here in Sweden (15+)  and other parts of the world to consent., ( just stating facts not promoting )

but I suppose HS consent never occurs no more nor teenage pregnancy like in the real world as they don't exist in the sims4.. 

so much for playing "life" in a game like they advertise., stay #woke 

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

11 hours ago, LucasSa12 said:

I can understand why some people would be uncomfortable with teenage sex, but I don't really get the legal talk here. They are fictional characters, not real people and guess what? Murdering, stealing and torturing are ilegal too. And yet, countless games portray those acts in the most gruesome ways. Will those things be banned from games as well or are they somehow different?

Because, stuff like this usually starts in one camp and then spreads like a disease to every other camp, simply because nobody said anything the first time it happened. As you pointed out it's a fantasy, as in not real, so the law really shouldn't get involved, but because certain things offend certain people's moral sensibilities more than others, and the law is run by people, the probability exists that the law will stick its fingers in things that it shouldn't, so it's a reasonable concern.

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

3 hours ago, MrGrey said:

Post puberty is not the same as 18 which is the age of consent or past the age of consent in most states of the US. But, lets pretend it does. I guess that's why NWP "dolls" are not real slaves and still have free will to give consent, they're just programmed to like their "owner". Otherwise it gets kinda rape-ish.

Seriously, you know that EA must have intended for the mods to work otherwise they wouldn't have added the ability to assign a teen's gender preferences, sexual inquisitive, and seeks woohoo by gender. Then something happened and EA gets all up in arms about it.

 

This is why I think that EA redefined "teen" in their game as a way to control what kind of content gets made for it.

 

They already do shady things like design games in such a way so as to funnel players into buying loot boxes with real money, and they have gone to the lengths of researching psychological tricks in order to do achieve that end. To me, this just looks like another form of manipulation disguised as something else. As far as why they would do this, it could be fore legal reasons or simply because it makes some of the wrong people at EA uncomfortable.

 

That's my assumption, anyway.

[eowijn]

Before you go in Cas , save your game, so the game won't reverse to the last time you saved it. At least that works for me. 

[Krasovskiy]

23 hours ago, Hosfac said:

For this to work, the peeping sim has to be masturbating while peeping, which is often triggered by your sim/sims performing a sex act themselves.  If the peeping sim isn't masturbating, it won't work.

At least, that's how it used to work.  Peeping sims stopped working correctly for me since the Werewolves patch.

 

Yea the NPC works fine but anytime I invite them in, masturbating or not, they run away no matter what. The NPC also masturbates if your sim is nude or almost nude, but still same end result of peeper running away. 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Uusxx said:

Could be U.I. Cheats, if you have that Mod.

You were right! I had a very old Wicked file inside my game, thank you very much!

[Taekook1993.]

38 minutes ago, eowijn said:

Before you go in Cas , save your game, so the game won't reverse to the last time you saved it. At least that works for me. 

and what about the saving bug ?

[Nighty75]

5 hours ago, jyotai said:

I would really like to see the official source of the EA statement that teens are 18. If they were, then University should have been for teens, not young adults. So the statement has been in conflict with the game for a very long time.

 

 

If there was a statement, it is now obsolete. Hair growth, acne, even the first period (td themself has made this feature) are clear signs of puberty, which usually begins at 13, 14 years. It was and is illegal in many countries because it is child pornography. There is nothing more to say about it because no one needs that!

Edited July 31, 2022 by Nighty75
correction