WickedWhims

[SysGhost]

23 minutes ago, dup3w4sh1ngt0n said:

 

 

the law is still the law. A specific case may have been over turned, but there have been plenty other ones that have went to trial and resulted in convictions. The law is not ambiguous. and no it wouldn't result in "half the Disney princesses" being illegal. How would you even come to that conclusion? Have you even read 18 U.S. Code § 1466A?

 

 

Can we maybe just... stop about law?

Like first, law is very different from country to country. You can't take the law from your country and apply it to everyone.

Second the whole law debate is getting kinda stupid. The Teens in sims are looking like adult, you can use calculations all you want to find out what age you presume they are, but as a matter of fact sims don't have a specific age, only lifestate (wich can be interpeted a number of ways). But seeing as the sims look the way they do, and teens behave like adults (being able to live on their own for example), and last sims don't have a age assigned to them (like I said before, you can use math to calculate it but that doesn't make it definitive). Im confident most law won't care, simply cause no matter what, you can't realy prove what sims is a minor and isn't (excluding toddler and child sims cause... those are obvious). So maybe just end the whole talk about law.

 

As a side note: I can understand that TURBO might have deleted teens as a precaution, wich is understandable. But I also understand the confusion of it being ok for years, and suddenly being inapropriate while things like incest are still in the mod.

[Tekisman]

Anyone can explain me whats the CAS bug with WW right now? i read something about it but i want to avoid it if i can  Also is there a way to set all teens with the puberty trait at once? (i dont want to stay ALL DAY setting the same trait to every teen i see on the save LOL)

Edited August 1, 2022 by Tekisman

[Atomhv]

10 hours ago, SoCalExile said:

Shots fired (in good fun):

Hitler finds out EA likes Teens (Parody)

 

I really like this.

[Atomhv]

On 7/31/2022 at 12:12 PM, LewdA said:

Bro i still get Acne and grow shitty facial hair at 30
these "Teens" are FOR SURE 17-19
and SO close to Graduation. most ALL seniors in Highschool graduate about ages 17-19
so Chiiiilll bru LOL. They ain't kids. My sim definitely 19

It's nothing like teen. But the title of rough toy sex: ( Honey Select 2 ) This is a horrible rough little girl picture.

 

EA, ask me what is the image difference? Honey Select 2 and Sim 4 character body image.

7-year-old chilgirl from a 30-year-old boy 3d. He already had sex. Why isn't EA breaking the law???

Then ask me if it's bad????

Sim 4 no chilgirl sex. Repeat ask EA law what the.

https://db.bepis.moe/aishoujo?tag=loli

 

 

[CypherDivine]

I applaud TD for his choice to remove teens. Please also remove gay sex from WW because that's illegal to in many fine countries in the world. Also only married sims should be able the have sex because, you know, that's what the church says. Also please block all animations that are not missionary position. 

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

10 minutes ago, CypherDivine said:

I applaud TD for his choice to remove teens. Please also remove gay sex from WW because that's illegal to in many fine countries in the world. Also only married sims should be able the have sex because, you know, that's what the church says. Also please block all animations that are not missionary position. 

Yeah, I'm starting to go there too.. I mean, I've been hearing that while EA has added puberty mechanics to teens they have never directly specified whether or not the teens in the game are "prepubesant" and besides that most of the indicators seem to be pointing in the direction of teens that are old enough to have huge boobs and adult height. So I'm more of the opinion that this has been more of a choice on TD's part to remove something that he never felt comfortable with in the first place, and EA adding puberty mechanics has been nothing more than a convenient excuse..

 

At least that's what it looks like to me.

 

On a more relevant note, I seem to be getting a bug where it says two sims are not compatible for sex due to orientation incompatibility when both are supposed to be straight.

[draconiscaligula]

Don't usually comment on these things but the saving bug definitely stems from WW. 
People who play vanilla are getting a saving error with a popup. Not just a refusal to save. 
With the WW bug, it claims to save but then just doesn't. Spent hours and hours troubleshooting it, and ultimately scrubbing WW and all reliant mods from my files fixed the issue entirely. Something Turbo did for this patch is causing the issue. It's a slow progressing bug that gets worse the longer you play until it stops working entirely, it seems. Been able to play fine since removing it.

 

In regards to the issue with Turbo taking out teen stuff: As a player, I've literally never used or implemented any of the WW stuff with teens, but even I find the decision ridiculous. If he was worried about being sued or bodied by EA, why didn't he state it like that with the update and say he felt his hands were tied? Why is the unlock being spread around his server if he's afraid of the backlash? Sure, it's his mod and he gets to decide what's done with it, but people had their games broken entirely by this with no alternative and no way to roll back the update. So many folks used the WW settings on teens for story telling reasons-- not the dirtier stuff. (Not to mention, the teenagers do not look enough like children and wouldn't really satisfy those gross kind of urges for those kinds of people, I feel like..)

 

I've used WW since I first started playing and I loved it, but the weird sudden spike in puritanical belief pushing is concerning. It's one thing if he's afraid of backlash; it's another if he legitimately believes his own weird statement. It doesn't quite impact me since I don't use it, but it is still a bummer to see a beloved mod go such a weird direction. 

I genuinely hope he gets the save issue reported to him enough and fixed. 

[smashl66]

29 minutes ago, Z0mBieP00Nani said:

On a more relevant note, I seem to be getting a bug where it says two sims are not compatible for sex due to orientation incompatibility when both are supposed to be straight.

I think gender/orientation preferences with ww are sorta screwy.

I have gay sim that asked a straight sim for a bit, straight sim says not interested = That's the way it should be.

 

But later the straight sim calls me up and asks me to ask them on a date.
Via dialogue with the straight sim I can't  ask them for a date due to the option is greyed along with just about every other romance option.
Via phone I can select them to ask for date but the straight sim doesn't respond at all (as if I never made the call, no message or nothing).

 

Funniest part is when the straight sim and my gay sim are left to their own devices they root each other like rabbits.
Basically the romance and friendship bars is maxed between them...lol

But I still can not manually ask the staright sim for anything under romance dialouge apart from WW "Make A Move"
At wich point the straight sim always says yes ever since their romance & freind bars maxed out.

So basically gender/orientation seems sort of applied, but it's still not strictly fully adhered to by WW autonomy or WW dialogue.

Edited August 1, 2022 by smashl66

[DarkAudit]

26 minutes ago, Z0mBieP00Nani said:

Yeah, I'm starting to go there too.. I mean, I've been hearing that while EA has added puberty mechanics to teens they have never directly specified whether or not the teens in the game are "prepubesant" and besides that most of the indicators seem to be pointing in the direction of teens that are old enough to have huge boobs and adult height. So I'm more of the opinion that this has been more of a choice on TD's part to remove something that he never felt comfortable with in the first place, and EA adding puberty mechanics has been nothing more than a convenient excuse..

EA released High School Years, not Middle School Years.

 

Just sayin'.

[Fl3kch]

Anyone elese has the problem, relationships are reseted after loading the game? And WW settings are reseted too. All things from nomal game are saved normal. In the older version there wasn´t this problem.

[scenicid]

2 hours ago, Tekisman said:

Anyone can explain me whats the CAS bug with WW right now? i read something about it but i want to avoid it if i can  Also is there a way to set all teens with the puberty trait at once? (i dont want to stay ALL DAY setting the same trait to every teen i see on the save LOL)

 

In fact there is an issue with saving the game that also occurs when entering the CAS. Saving and moving to the map then back to a lot you realize you're coming back to a previous save, losing all the progress made, relationship etc. And it also time to time reset the WW settings. Saving manually before going to the map may work but not all the time or just for the game progression but not for the WW settings. That's quite annoying.
Another bug is I can't initiate sex between teens, workaround is ta make a teen having fun himself then someone ask to join. But adult with teens it's fine. I don't use the cheat "always accept sex", let's keep some challenge
Also when adding an adult in CAS and changing him to a teen, the trait "post prebubere" is not available.
And the action shift + click "make Sims happy"  not always work, the bar are filled but don't go in green status.

All my adult mods are up to date, BMD, WP, MCC and WW, that's quite frustrating.

I tried to remove WP, no effect.

I tried to reset my sims 4 folder backing up the essential files and folder as someone suggested, no effect.

I created a new game, same bugs.

I didn't tried to delete WW folder, run the game, and then putting it back. I have no clue what if could break on my sims.

So it's not just a CAS bug, but a global save bug.

 

Is Turbo Driver reading this forum or do I need to report it on his Patreon ?

[scenicid]

Well I was a supporter of TD on his Patreon and I can't access to his page anymore, you also have this issue ?

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

57 minutes ago, DarkAudit said:

EA released High School Years, not Middle School Years.

 

Just sayin'.

I don't want it to seem like I'm placing 100% blame on TD by the way, I can understand the concern. Really I fault EA the most as thier implementation of this new content was kind of half-assed. In my opinion, what would have been best is if they had added in a new "pre-teen" age bracket that fell in between "child" and "teen" along with a few new sims in the new age bracket and then have the puberty mechanics limited to that age bracket, then have the school set up to run K-12. Instead we got a bit of EA laziness and a consequential shit storm.

[scenicid]

Cancel culture again ... TD or Patreon rules.

Honnestly I don't feel as a criminal playing with teens, they are looking like young adult with just just a missing trait and going to high school. For me EA teens are 18-24, young adults 25-40 etc.
And the mod to unlock is working almost fine.

I didn't tried the ACNE feature, I don't like the idea but you can have acne passed 18

 

I'm more interest that TD update his mod to remove the save issues.

[Garthis]

Be careful apparently EA has changed their guidelines to include a "No vulgar content" rule for CC and mods and they have even implemented an official reporting method that they are following up on quite quickly. This guy has a video on it where he talks mostly about how this effect paywall content but if you read between the lines this could easily turn into a crusade.

 

[SysGhost]

20 minutes ago, Garthis said:

Be careful apparently EA has changed their guidelines to include a "No vulgar content" rule for CC and mods and they have even implemented an official reporting method that they are following up on quite quickly. This guy has a video on it where he talks mostly about how this effect paywall content but if you read between the lines this could easily turn into a crusade.

 

I mean, as far as Im aware. Thats always been there (about the "No vulgar content"), only worded differently. Plus an important point, EA knows of WW's existance, even making references in game to it. So it would be very hypocritical to suddenly pull a 180.

[WoLfN7]

8 hours ago, merkle said:

I've had this happen a few times, but it started with 170g.  Some settings just randomly change.  The one I've had most often is the sex progression resetting to timed from climax, but the crabs setting flipped on me and a few others.  Sometimes it's to the default setting but not always.

Sims and ww on meltdown ? lol 

[Account 1]

Is WW going to get a fix for the broken saves and settings issue?

[AshBoogie89]

The fact that TD has lost over 2000+ patrons since the latest update should tell him that this was not a good idea. As a storyteller, I don't just use WW for explicit sex, there are also a ton of kissing, hugging, and cuddling animations that I use for my teens as well. EA doesn't give us nearly enough romantic interactions for a compelling storyline, that's what some of us rely on WW for. I was really looking forward to seeing some cute interactions between my teen sims and their crushes at school but I guess that's just no longer possible, because even with the unlock you still can't do these interactions at school or the auditorium. I was also upset to learn that the Extreme Violence mod can't be used on school lots either, so now teenagers can't even have fights anymore? When did modders suddenly become snowflakes all because a high school was officially added? There have ALWAYS been teenagers in the game! We do not need modders forcing their world views on our gameplay and storylines, that's not their place. TD is completely disregarding his supporters with this update and it's surely going to affect his pockets. 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2022 by AshBoogie89

[Petr54]

All of the difficulties with teen sex in WW fashion arise from the new "worldview" of puberty from EA itself. EA, in turn, imposed restrictions on sexual interactions because of the new concept of the High School supplement, which introduced the concept of puberty. The school content of the High School supplement and sex between teens, much less with teachers instead of lessons, do not fit together at all. I don't know U.S. law, but I do know that in many countries around the world, even, pictures, animations with sex involving children are criminally punishable. And teenagers are considered children.

 

It is not unreasonable to remind that the legal owner of WW mod is not Turbo, but EA. That is, not modders who write mods, mod owners, which would seem quite natural, but the owner of the game.

The fact is that the mods themselves do not work without the main game, that is, they are a secondary software product in relation to the game, the owner of which is the EA and, accordingly, all secondary software products are their property. Thus, the owner of the game has the right to decide what to allow and what to forbid in mods (or forbid them altogether).

 

Turbo is simply forced to adhere to the conceptual restrictions from EA. Nevertheless he, having introduced all the restrictions required of him, still gives a tool to circumvent its from his second WickedAssistant account in the form of the WickedWhims Inappropriate Unlock file.

 

Note, this file was previously designed only for Patreon versions, due to restrictions on teen sex mods posted on that site.  Now these are EA requirements, and it is now required for the public version as well. 

Also he gave a trait Postpuberty, if you assign it and have the WickedWhims Inappropriate Unlock file you get what you think is lost in the mod, namely teen sex, including with adults.

 

If you didn't understand what I wrote, sorry, English is not my first language.

 

 

Edited August 1, 2022 by Petr54

[SysGhost]

16 minutes ago, Petr54 said:

All of the difficulties with teen sex in WW fashion arise from the new "worldview" of puberty from EA itself. EA, in turn, imposed restrictions on sexual interactions because of the new concept of the High School supplement, which introduced the concept of puberty. The school content of the High School supplement and sex between teens, much less with teachers instead of lessons, do not fit together at all. I don't know U.S. law, but I do know that in many countries around the world, even, pictures, animations with sex involving children are criminally punishable. And teenagers are considered children. It is not unreasonable to remind that the legal owner of WW mod is not Turbo, but EA. That is, not the modders who write the mods, which would seem quite natural, but the owner of the game.

 

The fact is that the mods themselves do not work without the main game, that is, they are a secondary software product in relation to the game, the owner of which is the EA and, accordingly, all secondary software products are their property. Thus, the owner of the game has the right to decide what to allow and what to forbid in mods (or forbid them altogether).

 

Turbo is simply forced to adhere to the conceptual restrictions from EA. Nevertheless he, having introduced all the restrictions required of him, still gives a tool to circumvent it from his second WickedAssistant account in the form of the WickedWhims Inappropriate Unlock file.

 

Note, this file was previously designed only for Patreon versions, due to restrictions on teen sex mods posted on that site.  Now these are EA requirements, and it is now required for the public version as well. 

Also he gave a trait Postpuberty, if you assign it and have the WickedWhims Inappropriate Unlock file you get what you think is lost in the mod, namely teen sex, including with adults.

 

If you didn't understand what I wrote, sorry, English is not my first language.

 

 

So going to the part of law. Yes, in most parts of the world you will get into trouble for images containing minors in sexual act. But I posted about this yesterday or so. Most laws say that a minor has to be clearly depicted. And every way you turn it, teens in TS4 look like adults (I think this might be on purpose by EA). Seeing as they look like adults, telling wich sim is minor and not is diffucult (excluding toddlers and children), also because no definitive age is given.

So yea, with no confirmed age and the adult look, it's very reasonable to asume teens in this game are 17/18/19 (wich in most places is legal).

Even the puberty stuff is not saying much, since in the school sims go to prom and do all kind of senior (I believe thats the one, im not from the US) activities, showing that they are about to be graduates, wich again puts them in the 17/18/19 range.

Moral of the story: law should not be a problem here, and both EA and TD should not realy be worried

Edited August 1, 2022 by SysGhost

[Chaleara_84]

Turbo, you are a nice and talented dude, I will never judge you as a person, but even if the text gets long, hear me out. Teens have sex in real life. I'll tell a little bit about my teenage years. At the age of 11 I started to be interested in the opposite sex and had my first innocent crushes. It stayed that way for a few years until I was 15. When I was 15, I had my first boyfriend, a boy the same age. Do you know where we met? At school. We both had our first sex ever together, also when we were 15. And no, we didn't hide our entire bodies under the covers. We were naked, we kissed and caressed each other's bodies and then we had sex. We were not little innocent angels. We were teens and we were wicked. We had sex in bed, in the bathtub, on the sofa, in the hay, in my parents' old car, and even in a corner of town behind a cigarette machine. Looking back, I have to say that as an adult I was never as wicked as I was in my teens. Because the sex hormones run amok in the teenage years. We could have had sex all day. I got pregnant when I was 16. Yes, even teenage pregnancies are more than realistic, they are a fact. Today I am a grown woman with a son of 21 years. And I love your mod but in the old version. I'm not a weirdo, I'm just an adult and see the reality and I also want to play my life simulation game as realistic as possible including teen sex and teen pregnancy as it happened in my own life. Many of us simmers write photo stories, they take in-game photos and write a story about them. And WW has such incredibly cute animations that perfectly depict the first shy sexual approach (petting) in teenage years, and also perfectly depict the first sex. Yeah, some people say it´s not that bad because you can still use MCCC for teen pregnancy but for me it´s mnnot only about the pregnancy possibility, it´s all about the cute WW animations that realistically depict my teen stories about first love and first sex. You know teens have sex, Turbo. The teens in sims 4 go to prom, which means they're senior high school and at least 17/18/19. Look at them, look at their bodies. These are not 13/14 year old bodies. As for acne... I'm 38 years old, I still have acne. Acne Isn't puberty only, same as body hair. If EA wouldn´t be fine with teenage love and sex there wouldn´t be mess-around options (everyone and EA knows that this is woohoo) , they even showed it to us proudly in their high schooll stream in the new locations. So please reconsider your decision. I know there is a separate mod to unlock teen sex, but 1) Many people say that your game progress will reset as soon as you enter and leave cas if the module is installed, that makes the game unplayable. 2) It removes acne. These are pack features fans want, and I'm the prime example that acne doesn't have to have anything to do with puberty. If you don't want to put teen sex in your main mod anymore because you're afraid of being sued , then develop a stable module with teen sex (without forced traits) which you can only publish here on LL. Deaderpools MC Command and MC Woohoo are also not together, you have to download MC woohoo separately. Please don't destroy our realism in our game and our photo love stories.

[LavenderCat]

11 hours ago, jyotai said:

 

Turn on the news fool, and look who's out there claiming everyone is a sex freak. It ain't the left.

 

Of course you just went from demanding teens in your game be able to have sex to calling someone calling out your anti-left BS a pedo so yeah - there you are, being you.

 

Anyway, peace out ese. Putting you on ignore because you're not smart enough to pay attention to if you can't even see your own contradiciton.

 

Neither side is correct. You both are perfect examples of what is actually going on: A pendulum is violently swinging back and forth from one extreme to the other, and nerther are 100% correct.
Both of you need to calm down.

[Kymberlyxxx]

13 hours ago, Tyrber said:

Guys, someone had this glitch in cas?

 

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I have not downloaded mods to change the fullness and musculature.

 

Viagra doesn't work that way 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Kymberlyxxx said:

Viagra doesn't work that way

??  I already fixed this glitch