WickedWhims

[kaliandra2019]

2 minutes ago, Blasphemy Defined said:

so woke left bullshit finally hit this mod eh?  lol. Now watch it die like everything that follows that shit. Wont be long and adults will be removed execpt for a few multi colored haired he shes chasing toddlers around like the child diddlers they are. Stupid.

I'm full on liberal and I guess "woke" and i'm against this new morality that TD has gotten.  It's hard to believe they somehow grew a conscious after putting malicious code into their WW mod and lying about it then fessing up.  Telling people where to find CP mod, how to download it safely to "verify".  Like for real I believe you when you say it's there, but you could like not advertise where to get it and how to get it safely.  

 

On another note without quoting the other person I do not have a teen fetish.  I actively avoid the barely legal and teen sections of porn sites.  I also don't do self gratification when I play the sims.  I just think this whole teens that look like adults are somehow just now going through puberty and are little kids (based on when puberty hits).  I still want to see a lawyer try to argue how adult sims are somehow CP.

[dup3w4sh1ngt0n]

11 minutes ago, Blasphemy Defined said:

so woke left bullshit finally hit this mod eh?  lol. Now watch it die like everything that follows that shit. Wont be long and adults will be removed execpt for a few multi colored haired he shes chasing toddlers around like the child diddlers they are. Stupid.

 

if "woke" to you is basic arithmetic, idk what to tell you  

[merkle]

41 minutes ago, luceze said:

so genocides and war crimes are less wrong than loli and rape (being probably in the top of most read hentai) huh?

The naivete of people here just amazes me.  It has NOTHING to do with what you or I or anyone else thinks is wrong or more wrong.  It's what the law says.  Full stop.

 

Imagine for one moment that you're the CEO of EA.  You probably can't prevent it, but if you do NOTHING to stop it you might:

1.  Be prosecuted by the feds because you've violated an actual law.  You might win your case but you still lose.  Big time.
2.  Get hauled in front of a congressional committee to explain why you've done nothing to stop the SCOURGE OF CHILD PORN.  Guess what?  Arguing that it's not technically porn because it's an animation isn't a good look.  Arguing that other games do worse things isn't a good look.  You are absolutely going to leave with one more asshole than you went in with.  Would you really want to put yourself in that situation?
3.  Get your ass fired by the board of directors for being stupid enough to bring truly awful publicity to the company.

Edited August 1, 2022 by merkle

[SysGhost]

16 minutes ago, dup3w4sh1ngt0n said:

 

no but they have actual legislation in place for "fictional"/digital CP. They take that seriously. I'm sure everyone's IP addresses are flagged just for being on this site LOL

True, but atleast where I'm from there are very strict rules in what does and does not qualify. One thing that is for example mentioned is that a minor has to be clearly depicted, wich in the case of sims 4 is... not realy the case. So on that side I think this whole mod is safe. I can understand why TURBO might not want to take any risks, but Im also confident that the law won't realy look at a game like sims (and it's mods)... unleas you're using the CP versions of WW, wich I just hope nobody is doing here.

[luceze]

6 minutes ago, dup3w4sh1ngt0n said:

 

bro, I'm just telling you what the law is. the ages for teens can be objectively determined because of known parameter limits and the in-game aging mechanism. There's no argument to be had. 

 

If those are the most read hentai, that reveals a lot about the sad state of humanity LOL It's not surprising tho. The first anti-r_pe laws in Europe came a little less than a thousand years ago to prosecute grown-ass men going after 9 year olds. There's something deeply disturbing about humans because that's clearly an inherent toxic trait if it still persists in different manifestations

Want to talk about law? An early 18 male dating a late 17 female is still considered pedophilia, yet we all know and agree that even though law says it's illegal, in reality it's fine

Edited August 1, 2022 by luceze

[dup3w4sh1ngt0n]

4 minutes ago, kaliandra2019 said:

I'm full on liberal and I guess "woke" and i'm against this new morality that TD has gotten.  It's hard to believe they somehow grew a conscious after putting malicious code into their WW mod and lying about it then fessing up.  Telling people where to find CP mod, how to download it safely to "verify".  Like for real I believe you when you say it's there, but you could like not advertise where to get it and how to get it safely.  

 

On another note without quoting the other person I do not have a teen fetish.  I actively avoid the barely legal and teen sections of porn sites.  I also don't do self gratification when I play the sims.  I just think this whole teens that look like adults are somehow just now going through puberty and are little kids (based on when puberty hits).  I still want to see a lawyer try to argue how adult sims are somehow CP.

 

 

you're trying to argue how someone looks vs their actual age. if that's the case, half of the girls I went to hs with were "adults". I just pointed out that Sims, factually, have determinable ages using basic math and the information the game gives you. that's it

[SticksStackStuck]

6 minutes ago, luceze said:

Want to talk about law? An early 18 male dating a late 17 female is still considered pedophilia, yet we all know and agree that even though law says it's illegal, in reality it's fine

 

In US it is indeed, and hence we have the situation we now have. This pack, having drawn attention to the teen life stage, have apparently lead to the changes we're now discussing. As you say, it's the law of the land in the US.

[kaliandra2019]

5 minutes ago, dup3w4sh1ngt0n said:

 

 

you're trying to argue how someone looks vs their actual age. if that's the case, half of the girls I went to hs with were "adults". I just pointed out that Sims, factually, have determinable ages using basic math and the information the game gives you. that's it

Your math isn't the law and sims 4 has teens that are depicted as adults.  That is it.  They look like adults.  It's not depictions of minors.  Real life though there is an age like legally based on reality.  I am talking about depictions of adult looking sims.  They do not have a legal AGE like a number.  They are depicted as adults.  Teens are also 18-19 and can be in school at age 19,  I was 18 when I was a senior and that was without being held back.  I do not consider teens to be under 18 visually or in my head.  I usually age them up to YA because I hate them running off to school.  I doubt I will even get the new pack because I don't really care about school.  It is doubtful that legally they would waste time and money going after adult looking sims because that is not depicting minors at all.

[SysGhost]

5 minutes ago, kaliandra2019 said:

Your math isn't the law and sims 4 has teens that are depicted as adults.  That is it.  They look like adults.  It's not depictions of minors.  Real life though there is an age like legally based on reality.  I am talking about depictions of adult looking sims.  They do not have a legal AGE like a number.  They are depicted as adults.  Teens are also 18-19 and can be in school at age 19,  I was 18 when I was a senior and that was without being held back.  I do not consider teens to be under 18 visually or in my head.  I usually age them up to YA because I hate them running off to school.  I doubt I will even get the new pack because I don't really care about school.  It is doubtful that legally they would waste time and money going after adult looking sims because that is not depicting minors at all.

This is why the law won't care. I've been reading the law surrounding this stuff from a view places acros the world. Prettymuch all of them state a minor has to be clearly depicted, wich teen sims in sims 4 just are not. Like you said, they look like adults, so how are you going to see the difference between YA and teen? You can't unless you look at their age on their like bio page. But even then who is to say they are not 18 (wich is still teen)?

What I'm trying to say, the whole argument about law. Is kinda pointless simply because of the looks. And yes, you could calculate their age by the lifestate days, but then you get people like me, who have aging of. How are you going to determine it then?

[SoCalExile]

Shots fired (in good fun):

Hitler finds out EA likes Teens (Parody)

 

Edited August 1, 2022 by SoCalExile

[LavenderCat]

1 hour ago, dup3w4sh1ngt0n said:

i literally broke down the math. your feelings can't dispute that lol they are literally given ages because we have a defined, given range and a set amount of days between two stages of life. we can do quick math to see what the ages are and can even calculate the ages of each other Stage. if you have a teen fetish, that's "fine," but the numbers are the numbers. I only commented because OP said something that is factually incorrect given readily available information 

Ah yes, because normal, real-life humans age up a range every month.

Look, the Sims 4 aging system is downright nonsensical. babies are born and turn into toddlers (default "normal" lifespan mind you) like, one week later. Three weeks later they're kids, another three weeks they're teens, three more weeks they're YA, three more and they're adults, another three and they're elders.

Do you understand how bullshit this is? There is little to no consistency because the age ranges themselves are so vast.

[SticksStackStuck]

8 minutes ago, kaliandra2019 said:

Your math isn't the law and sims 4 has teens that are depicted as adults.  That is it.  They look like adults.  It's not depictions of minors.  Real life though there is an age like legally based on reality.  I am talking about depictions of adult looking sims.  They do not have a legal AGE like a number.  They are depicted as adults.  Teens are also 18-19 and can be in school at age 19,  I was 18 when I was a senior and that was without being held back.  I do not consider teens to be under 18 visually or in my head.  I usually age them up to YA because I hate them running off to school.  I doubt I will even get the new pack because I don't really care about school.  It is doubtful that legally they would waste time and money going after adult looking sims because that is not depicting minors at all.

 

You can argue that all you want (and only you can say what your head canon is), but I don't think that will make much traction with EA, Patreon etc. EA has just tightened their mod policy, likely because of outside pressure. In that regard, what you and I might feel about the teenagers in TS4 is largely irrelevant.

[simden]

1 hour ago, SticksStackStuck said:

 

In US it is indeed, and hence we have the situation we now have. This pack, having drawn attention to the teen life stage, have apparently lead to the changes we're now discussing. As you say, it's the law of the land in the US.

Indeed it is not as it does not involve a pre-pubescent child, which is the definition of pedophilia.  In some places an 18yo having sex with a 17yo may be grounds for statutory rape, but the majority of US states have age of consent as 16.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, dup3w4sh1ngt0n said:

 

because you can be hit with real fed numbers if you're living out your "fictional" fantasies and they decide to raid your comp

this is absolute garbage

[dup3w4sh1ngt0n]

52 minutes ago, LavenderCat said:

Ah yes, because normal, real-life humans age up a range every month.

Look, the Sims 4 aging system is downright nonsensical. babies are born and turn into toddlers (default "normal" lifespan mind you) like, one week later. Three weeks later they're kids, another three weeks they're teens, three more weeks they're YA, three more and they're adults, another three and they're elders.

Do you understand how bullshit this is? There is little to no consistency because the age ranges themselves are so vast.

 

It's not nonsensical. I broke down the math on a post on page 992

 

"

you can technically assign age for teen sims because "teenage" years have a defined beginning and end and the game uses a day system to age them. 13-19 is 7 years inclusive. That's probably why the durations of the Teen Stage per "Lifespan" are multiples of 7

Short Lifespan is 7 days, meaning each day is a year. Your sim would need to be set to Day 6 or 7 for it to not be weird

 

Normal Lifespan is 14 days, meaning every 2 days is a year.  Days 12-14 are acceptable

 

Long Lifespan is 56 days, meaning every 8 days is a year. Days 48-56 are acceptable

 

"

 

You can then use that relationship for interpolations and deduce the actual ages of all of the other groups. Babies are babies for:

Short Lifespan:

 

1.5 days

 

Normal Lifespan:

 

3 days

 

Long Lifespan: 

 

12 days

 

Notice a trend? Multipliers of 1, 2 and 4, the same for teens. Babies would be 1.5 years old before becoming Toddlers in each life lifespan relative to how many days they're that Stage. This aligns with irl.  

[merkle]

Here's a new one.  A Sim is refusing sex with the notification that "The current situation (the Sims) are in doesn't allow to initiate sex."  They're in the gym or his home lot.  Other Sims aren't refusing - only this one.  I checked gender preference and that's not the issue.  They're both adults.  What's up with this?

 

Update:  I figured it out.  It has to do with the new gender preference (that you access in CAS).  This poor confused woman was attracted to men but wanted to have sex with women.  You can ask Sims about their preferences, but there's nowhere I've found that you can then find them short of CAS.

Edited August 1, 2022 by merkle

[Guest]

1 hour ago, luceze said:

Want to talk about law? An early 18 male dating a late 17 female is still considered pedophilia, yet we all know and agree that even though law says it's illegal, in reality it's fine

pretty sure the romeo and juliet law kills this argument

[LavenderCat]

20 minutes ago, dup3w4sh1ngt0n said:

 

It's not nonsensical. I broke down the math on a post on page 992

 

"

you can technically assign age for teen sims because "teenage" years have a defined beginning and end and the game uses a day system to age them. 13-19 is 7 years inclusive. That's probably why the durations of the Teen Stage per "Lifespan" are multiples of 7

Short Lifespan is 7 days, meaning each day is a year. Your sim would need to be set to Day 6 or 7 for it to not be weird

 

Normal Lifespan is 14 days, meaning every 2 days is a year.  Days 12-14 are acceptable

 

Long Lifespan is 56 days, meaning every 8 days is a year. Days 48-56 are acceptable

 

"

 

You can then use that relationship for interpolations and deduce the actual ages of all of the other groups. Babies are babies for:

Short Lifespan:

 

1.5 days

 

Normal Lifespan:

 

3 days

 

Long Lifespan: 

 

12 days

 

Notice a trend? Multipliers of 1, 2 and 4, the same for teens. Babies would be 1.5 years old before becoming Toddlers in each life lifespan relative to how many days they're that Stage. This aligns with irl.  

Counter point: 13 is not "teen" it is pre-teen, arguably still "child" because of standard behaviors for people in that age range.
more specific: You talk about American laws, so, there in, 18 and 19 belong in the "Young Adult" category due to 18 being the accepted vague "adult" age in most US staes. This then throws your math wildly off.
Do you understand this circular logic?

And then there is this person:

29 minutes ago, simden said:

Indeed it is not as it does not involve a pre-pubescent child, which is the definition of pedophilia.  In some places an 18yo having sex with a 17yo may be grounds for statutory rape, but the majority of US states have age of consent as 16.

Edited August 1, 2022 by LavenderCat

[Guest]

3 hours ago, smashl66 said:

 

You can find a dog or human hard penis that works for werewolves and is assignable via WW body selector (you don't need to install all the extra stuff in the zip, just the hard penis package):
https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/13232-bernis-collection-furry-18-werewolves-update/

 

If you use SimpleGens for your humans and would like to make it compatible to also work with werewolf as hard penis then you can find a rough guide here:
https://www.loverslab.com/topic/192861-rough-guide-for-werewolf-to-use-simplegen-hard-penis/

 

For me the SimpleGens option has been the best for my taste as I use for my humans even before werewolf pack came out, but each their own

You are an angel, thank you very much!

[Cubrethil]

1 hour ago, luceze said:

Want to talk about law? An early 18 male dating a late 17 female is still considered pedophilia, yet we all know and agree that even though law says it's illegal, in reality it's fine

Not true. The age of consent varies from state to state in the USA. Generally from 16 to 18. Plus many states have Romeo and Juliet laws. In Delaware where the age of consent is 18, 16- and 17-year-old can legally engage in sex with older partners as long as that person is under 30 years old.
Also pedophilia is defined as an adult having sexual relations with a prepubescent child. A 17-year-old and an 18-year-old engaging in sexual relations is not pedophilia.

[dup3w4sh1ngt0n]

9 minutes ago, LavenderCat said:

Counter point: 13 is not "teen" it is pre-teen, arguably still "child" because of standard behaviors for people in that age range.
more specific: You talk about American laws, so, there in, 18 and 19 belong in the "Young Adult" category due to 18 being the accepted vague "adult" age in most US staes. This then throws your math wildly off.
Do you understand this circular logic?

And then there is this person:

it is tho; TEEN is in the title. How can something be pre-TEEN if it's literally in the teens? You're trying to call out "circular" logic with things that are objectively false. 

The Sims 4 flavor text for when you become a Young Adult specifies that Life Stage is 20+, so no, 18 and 19 are not considered Young Adult age by the game

 

The math stands 

Edited August 1, 2022 by dup3w4sh1ngt0n

[LavenderCat]

4 minutes ago, Cubrethil said:

Not true. The age of consent varies from state to state in the USA. Generally from 16 to 18. Plus many states have Romeo and Juliet laws. In Delaware where the age of consent is 18, 16- and 17-year-old can legally engage in sex with older partners as long as that person is under 30 years old.
Also pedophilia is defined as an adult having sexual relations with a prepubescent child. A 17-year-old and an 18-year-old engaging in sexual relations is not pedophilia.

I believe the person was talking about the argument of the letter of the law versus the spirit of the law. Add to that, a *LOT* of adults and regular citizens don't know about Romeo and Juliet laws.
So, *on paper* a 17 year old and 18 year old having sex is rape and a form of pedophilia (I know "pedophilia" isn't the right word, I just forget the philia that it actually is)

[SoCalExile]

16 minutes ago, LavenderCat said:

I believe the person was talking about the argument of the letter of the law versus the spirit of the law. Add to that, a *LOT* of adults and regular citizens don't know about Romeo and Juliet laws.
So, *on paper* a 17 year old and 18 year old having sex is rape and a form of pedophilia (I know "pedophilia" isn't the right word, I just forget the philia that it actually is)

 

Hebephilia

[LavenderCat]

2 minutes ago, SoCalExile said:

 

Hebephilia

Yes, thank you! That was the word I was looking for!

22 minutes ago, dup3w4sh1ngt0n said:

it is tho; TEEN is in the title. How can something be pre-TEEN if it's literally in the teens? You're trying to call out "circular" logic with things that are objectively false. 

Do.... do you understand what PRE-TEEN (wow, I can capitalize letters for emphasis too!) means?
Do you know what "PRE" means?
It means "previous to; before."

24 minutes ago, dup3w4sh1ngt0n said:

The Sims 4 flavor text for when you become a Young Adult specifies that Life Stage is 20+, so no, 18 and 19 are not considered Young Adult age by the game

I'm not talking about the flavor text in the game, I'm talking about what the socially agreed upon age.

25 minutes ago, dup3w4sh1ngt0n said:

The math stands 

I have my sims set to never age. They are immortal outside of accidents or murder.
The math doesn't stand in this case.

[niaya04]

On 7/30/2022 at 9:44 AM, Roxie Lyerri said:

Hi, Usually am a lurker on this site but I decided to step out of the shadows to voice my opinion on the recent change to WW, which I find very baffling because I thought Sims was a life simulation game? (Like LGR on YT I don't really mess with the occult stuff) I understand that a lot of people get uncomfortable with teens doing weird stuff and that's very valid, Especially when it's an adult and Teen relationship. If you don't want want that stuff that's fine, the part that baffles me is why remove the functionality entirely? Turbo understands that teenagers have sex right? Shocking I know, but it happens because not too long ago I was one. And everyone who experiences sexual desires knows what those hormones are like at that age.

 

I digress and my point I'm trying to make here is even if the teen sex stuff makes people uncomfortable which is fine I would like to reiterate you can like and dislike stuff, what is not fine is removing it entirely and pretend that teens are all pure little angels and that this stuff just doesn't happen because that's just being really unrealistic and it ruins the immersion of having teen couples in the game when they cannot be intimate with each other anymore.

TL;DR This change in the update doesn't make any sense so in my humble opinion it deserves an L

I think the issue is it wasn't just teens but toddlers and children being animated also.