WickedWhims

[Vincenza]

i have to laugh so much right now. sex with dogs is ok. sex with cats too, sex with robots, no problem. but sex with teenagers. oh my god, that's the devil's work ?

Edited July 30, 2022 by Vincenza

[carnation77]

1 hour ago, datl0ser said:

It's not that simple to move over, since moving to that mod is a death sentence to any opportunity for support.

And you should wonder why that is the case.

[Red Lilibet]

28 minutes ago, Vincenza said:

the point is that v170i doesn't allow any sexual relations with teenagers anymore. why is that? because TURBODRIVER decided so. the second point is that i absolutely don't understand this. for years nobody cared about teenagers having sex. i have all the content of sims 4, all the expansions, packs, sets, whatever. v170i forbids what v170h allowed if you have high school years installed.

 

changelog:

 

Excluded Teen Sims from any sexual interactivity
Due to the recontextualization of teen Sims in the game, making them prepubescent and physically immature, I'm no longer comfortable allowing them to retain sexual functionalities. This is a pretty major change, but it has to be done. You can bring back the old behavior with external mods, but WickedWhims will not officially support it.

 

this is a joke, but a very bad one!
 

It actually looks like a bad joke. Take a look at the physically immature sims from the EA trailer

[michazl79]

32 minutes ago, sushi said:

I like the fact that Basemental Drugs doesn't apply morality to their mod.  Like you go to their website and you see that the mod author is actually very anti-drug and donates money towards that.  When playing with that mod, you can see that drugs aren't just fun, there's also the downside of addiction.

Well, Basemental don't have the risk of being banned of the site he post his mod but Turbo here in Loverslab do.

[datl0ser]

1 hour ago, Mellor81 said:

thats true lol maybe try the unlock thing others have mentioned as thats been updated today too, just trying it myself to see 

 

The unlock itself hasn't even actually been updated, only the post text has been updated instructing to add the new trait that locks out acne, which anyone can get, whether they be 15 or 50.

[kaliandra2019]

13 minutes ago, Red Lilibet said:

It actually looks like a bad joke. Take a look at the physically immature sims from the EA trailer

This is what confuses me.  I've seen on Reddit and Twitter that people are sooooo happy that Turbo did this and calling others pedo.  How in the world are adult looking sims having sex pedo?  It's like they're patting themselves on the back and pushing this narrative to force others to their beliefs out of fear of being accused of something.  Heck 90% of the time I had no clue who was teen/YA/Adult because there was such little difference that I just didn't care.  I think it's silly and will push people away from this mod because of the change.  A week ago they looked like adult and now they still look like adults.  A week ago they went to high school and now they go to high school.  Not sure about this puberty thing, but these do not look prepubescent at all.

[SticksStackStuck]

47 minutes ago, sushi said:

I like the fact that Basemental Drugs doesn't apply morality to their mod.  Like you go to their website and you see that the mod author is actually very anti-drug and donates money towards that.  When playing with that mod, you can see that drugs aren't just fun, there's also the downside of addiction. 

 

It's worth noting that EA just made an update/clarification on their mods policy. Pixelade just covered it (link below). If I understand this correctly (i.e I may be talking out of my hindquarters), Turbodriver may not be in a position to choose whether to apply morality or not. Should WW stray from the narrow path, EA has the means to make the mod unusable. EA too would probably prefer not to get involved, but they too are under pressure.

 

[Guest]

Ironically the Sims team feels the opposite considering this update/pack included 'fooling around' for teens allowing them to perform woohoo interactions without the risk of pregnancy essentially. So yeah, sounds like Maxis is more comfortable than ever allowing teens to engage in such activities. 

[Guest]

45 minutes ago, datl0ser said:

The unlock itself hasn't even actually been updated, only the post text has been updated instructing to add the new trait that locks out acne, which anyone can get, whether they be 15 or 50.

it was updated for me and its actually working perfectly fine, had one crash in about 3 hrs cant be assed working out what it was yet but yeh its good to go

[datl0ser]

1 minute ago, Mellor81 said:

it was updated for me and its actually working perfectly fine, had one crash in about 3 hrs cant be assed working out what it was yet but yeh its good to go

I never said it didn't work, just that to make it work, you need to apply the Post-Puberty trait to every single teen sim, and this locks them out of acne. As an adult with acne, I am quite offended >:P

[Flyingscoot]

So if you don't have the new expansion pack WW works like normal for teen interactions? 

[Kymberlyxxx]

R.I.P. Billy smashing Mrs. Jones down the block with the new WW HS Update

[MrGrey]

My experiment. Made two siblings by taking a high level spell caster in a recent game, duplicato, and then change the gender/preferences to be compatible in cas and both ages to teen. MCCC was uninstalled so MCCC Woohooer is not involved. 

* Tried to use WW for sex. Nope, doesn't work.

* Removed sibling relation using testing cheat and remove from family. Nope, doesn't work.

* Added the old inappropriate unlock. Doesn't work, but says that the sims need to have the post puberty trait.

 

I trust that with the Post Puberty trait they can have sex.

Odd that EA would add gender preferences including sex explorer, romance and seeks sex to teens and then make all that illegal.

[merkle]

1 hour ago, SticksStackStuck said:

 

It's worth noting that EA just made an update/clarification on their mods policy. Pixelade just covered it (link below). If I understand this correctly (i.e I may be talking out of my hindquarters), Turbodriver may not be in a position to choose whether to apply morality or not. Should WW stray from the narrow path, EA has the means to make the mod unusable. EA too would probably prefer not to get involved, but they too are under pressure.

 

This is the crux of the matter.  Teen sex (if under 18) is, essentially, kiddie porn.  There are federal laws about that and that's why they previously went to great pains to define teens as 18-19-year-olds.  Now they seem to be defining teens as younger.  You can argue that it's animation and not the real thing, but that's probably not going to keep you out of trouble.  I'm quite sure EA's lawyers have advised them in no uncertain terms that they have to show due diligence in keeping kiddie porn out of their product.

[sushi]

1 hour ago, michazl79 said:

Well, Basemental don't have the risk of being banned of the site he post his mod but Turbo here in Loverslab do.

 

1 hour ago, SticksStackStuck said:

 

It's worth noting that EA just made an update/clarification on their mods policy. Pixelade just covered it (link below). If I understand this correctly (i.e I may be talking out of my hindquarters), Turbodriver may not be in a position to choose whether to apply morality or not. Should WW stray from the narrow path, EA has the means to make the mod unusable. EA too would probably prefer not to get involved, but they too are under pressure.

 

 

In both cases, I wish Turbo would have just stated that more clearly, instead of making it sound like it's just because of the new pack.  If he finds himself limited by host or EA, not much else he can do, right?

 

44 minutes ago, Roxanne Wolf said:

Ironically the Sims team feels the opposite considering this update/pack included 'fooling around' for teens allowing them to perform woohoo interactions without the risk of pregnancy essentially. So yeah, sounds like Maxis is more comfortable than ever allowing teens to engage in such activities. 

 

4 minutes ago, MrGrey said:

Odd that EA would add gender preferences including sex explorer, romance and seeks sex to teens and then make all that illegal.

So essentially they want to allow it, they want to look progressive, but also don't want to piss off the parents.  LOL.

 

 

[0rcus]

I don't really care about teen sex. I don't even play as teens, but I always find it funny when people try to push their morality on a video game. I don't get it. None of this is real, just a blob of pixels. You can call them whatever you want. They don't have any real age or feelings. You can't abuse them since they don't exist. With all the gay, transgender, LGBT stuff you would think people playing this game wouldn't be so uptight. Everything else goes, but teen sex is off limits? Ok.. just weird morality being pushed in a sex mod

Edited July 31, 2022 by 0rcus

[michazl79]

59 minutes ago, Flyingscoot said:

So if you don't have the new expansion pack WW works like normal for teen interactions? 

No, its all in the patch not the expansion pack. If you didnt updated the game then youre fine. Of course only if you don't update WW as well.

Edited July 31, 2022 by michazl79

[Brewski2k]

41 minutes ago, merkle said:

This is the crux of the matter.  Teen sex (if under 18) is, essentially, kiddie porn.  There are federal laws about that and that's why they previously went to great pains to define teens as 18-19-year-olds.  Now they seem to be defining teens as younger.  You can argue that it's animation and not the real thing, but that's probably not going to keep you out of trouble.  I'm quite sure EA's lawyers have advised them in no uncertain terms that they have to show due diligence in keeping kiddie porn out of their product.

Sims are a bunch of pixels arranged in the shape of humanoid avatars, they are not real people. They don't have rights, an age, gender, or whatever else you want to "assign" to them. Federal Child protection laws don't apply any more to a stick figure drawing than they do to digital or drawn characters, which is the same reason Hentai is not illegal. You can doodle whatever scenarios you want on a piece of paper or create depictions in blender and no lawyer on the planet or federal government can put you in jail or sue you over it. EA can posture all they want, they have zero legal grounds to go any CC creators who provide completely optional content that people aren't being forced to apply to their game.

The default Sims has all sorts of scenarios that allow for "illegal" and morally questionable activities; robberies, murder, "rape", torture, by allowing players to play "god" over their little avatars and all of it is completely subjective. This seems like EA has chosen, once again, to cater to a vocal minority of sensitive woke people who likely are complaining about who knows what.

Edited July 31, 2022 by Brewski2k

[sushi]

9 minutes ago, Brewski2k said:

The default Sims has all sorts of scenarios that allow for illegal activities, murder, "rape", torture, by allowing players to play "god" over their little avatars if they want. So, really, this is just EA catering to a vocal minority of woke people likely complaining about who knows what. So they are choosing to do the dog and pony show to "doing something" with some BS legal-simlish.

I'm sure it's not the "woke" complaining, but those of a conservative mindset.  EA can make progressive changes to the code(sexuality), for the "woke," then come down on adult mods for the conservatives.  Then when conservative moms complain that EA are "agents of the devil, trying to push the gay agenda on our kids," they look slightly better for the lack of teen adult animations.

Balance. ?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, datl0ser said:

I never said it didn't work, just that to make it work, you need to apply the Post-Puberty trait to every single teen sim, and this locks them out of acne. As an adult with acne, I am quite offended >:P

i know you didnt i was confirming that id tried it without issue lol i havent had to add any trait to any of them tho 

[Atomhv]

WW animation whatever does not work. And there is no blood infection. That's not good fresh. I'm waiting for another update or fix.

 

 

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[Guest]

31 minutes ago, Brewski2k said:

Sims are a bunch of pixels arranged in the shape of humanoid avatars, they are not real people. They don't have rights, an age, gender, or whatever else you want to "assign" to them. Federal Child protection laws don't apply any more to a stick figure drawing than they do to digital or drawn characters, which is the same reason Hentai is not illegal. You can doodle whatever scenarios you want on a piece of paper or create depictions in blender and no lawyer on the planet or federal government can put you in jail or sue you over it. EA can posture all they want, they have zero legal grounds to go any CC creators who provide completely optional content that people aren't being forced to apply to their game.

The default Sims has all sorts of scenarios that allow for "illegal" and morally questionable activities; robberies, murder, "rape", torture, by allowing players to play "god" over their little avatars and all of it is completely subjective. This seems like EA has chosen, once again, to cater to a vocal minority of sensitive woke people who likely are complaining about who knows what.

pretty much what i just said lol every country has wildly different laws and this nonsense would just be laughed at 

[maxxxest]

Gosh , i haven't played sims for 2 years and now want to play again. Moreover , high school pack came out , I want such content earlier. Teens age is a great opportunity for scenarios then sims begin to explore sexual life, getting drama , love, everything that is possible. I had big plans. LMAO! such a bummer!

Turbodriver, if you want to be nice to Twitter activists and continue this way , then one day you just kill your mod. 

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Atomhv said:

WW animation whatever does not work. And there is no blood infection. That's not good fresh. I'm waiting for another update or fix.

 

 

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you posted this earlier and you still have a million duplicate files, nothing is going to work with that many duplicates you need to go through them all and delete them, and a lot of them say only install 1 version yet there appears to be several of the same one

Edited July 31, 2022 by Mellor81

[Brewski2k]

6 minutes ago, sushi said:

I'm sure it's not the "woke" complaining, but those of a conservative mindset.  EA can make progressive changes to the code(sexuality), for the "woke," then come down on adult mods for the conservatives.  Then when conservative moms complain that EA are "agents of the devil, trying to push the gay agenda on our kids," they look slightly better for the lack of teen adult animations.

Balance. ?

Well, regardless of who is causing this trouble, it seems like they're probably dicking with Patreon or another revenue stream, which is the only reason I can think of why Turbo is jettisoning content from the core code to stay clear of whatever BS terms of service updates he's being forced to comply with.